2014 F1 Season

[HyperTek]

The teams are starting to debut the cars.. gahhh those front noses are ugly.

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/f14t-front34-886x379.jpg
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/mcla-mp4-29-2014-3.jpg
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/lotus-e22.png

Id rather see a return to 2009 style cars, those looked great
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/97/Button_Spain_2009.jpg

[S14DB]

Formula 1 teams worried about 'ugly' 2014 cars - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/111262/)

[simmode1]

The McLaren looks like it's got a dildo molded onto its front... I hope they ram it right into Red Bull's rear. Every damn race.

[BOROSUN]

reminds me of a bar scene from starwars.
http://www.wigderson.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/star-wars-bar-scene-christmas-special.jpeg#star%20wars%20bar%20scene%20700x390

all it's miss is gonzo
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m182/ghostguardian/Everything%20Else/muppets.jpg

[woodchuck]

all it's miss is gonzo....


i'm right there with you. VERY jim henson inspired.

hopefully the transition to the new engine for 2014 is solw for redbull. it would just be nice if redbull plays catchup to the other teams for a change.

[ManoNegra]

I've heard the 'ugly' arguments every time there's a major re-design to the cars.
I actually think they look fine.

[HyperTek]

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/saub-c33-2014-2.jpg
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/wpid-wp-13908937583181.jpg

[HyperTek]

The Mercedes looks great
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1614094_481625228614545_1999361650_o.jpg

So does the redbull
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfDQVHlIMAA9FeA.jpg

[Gnnr]

Crazy front diffuser on the Mercedes! Inlets for days! :eek3:

2014 Schedule

Mar 16 - Australian Grand Prix
Mar 30 - Malaysian Grand Prix
Apr 6 - Bahrain Grand Prix
Apr 20 - Chinese Grand Prix
May 11 - Spanish Grand Prix
May 25 - Monaco Grand Prix
Jun 8 - Canadian Grand Prix
Jun 22 - Austrian Grand Prix
Jul 6 - British Grand Prix
Jul 20 - German Grand Prix
Jul 27 - Hungarian Grand Prix
Aug 24 - Belgian Grand Prix
Sep 7 - Italian Grand Prix
Sep 21 - Singapore Grand Prix
Oct 5 - Japanese Grand Prix
Oct 12 - Russian Grand Prix
Nov 2 - United States Grand Prix
Nov 9 - Brazilian Grand Prix
Nov 23 - Abu Dhabi Grand Prix

[soryu]

Any links to 2013 official review?

[Gnnr]

Any links to 2013 official review?

PM sent ;)

[Taniguchi_Is_#1]

I'm glad Kamui is back, but that Caterham is the worst looking of the bunch.

[DJPimpFlex]

I'm super excited for this year. Testing has been very interesting and it should be an exciting season. Sucks that the cars are so much slower yet so much more expensive but it'll even out over time and development.

[Gnnr]

Martini livery to make a comeback on the Williams cars!

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2014/02/14/great-martini-racing-cars-pictures/

We should hopefully get a glimpse in the second round of testing that starts tomorrow in Bahrain. :D

[DJPimpFlex]

This is good news.

http://instagram.com/p/kji01lSvii/

[I<3BEWBZ]

Mercedes has built a very sexy car.

[gbaby2089]

This is good news.

http://instagram.com/p/kji01lSvii/

Oh yes. This looks better already.

[Gnnr]

You have to see this 360º Video! Fucking awesome! :bigok:

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2014/02/19/mercedes-reveal-360-degree-video-w05/

[DJPimpFlex]

http://www.f1times.co.uk/news/display/08512

Dat Force India though......

[Taniguchi_Is_#1]

I'm wondering about the Renault power unit's cooling requirements. There was a lot of trash talking on the Caterham's sidepods by armchair aerodynamicists when it was launched, but it managed 68 laps today.

Dat Force India though....

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/forc-hulk-bahr-2014-4-886x590.jpg

So good.

[Freddy]

OUUUUUUUF That Williams livery so good

http://i.imgur.com/IyKUMyi.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/4tGhRf3.jpg

http://imgur.com/a/sIS9D

[DJPimpFlex]

And speedwise williams is the real deal this year!!

[Gnnr]

OUUUUUUUF That Williams livery so good

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/005/650/weirdestboner.jpg

[soryu]

Bump for massa.

[Gnnr]

First Qualifying of the season up at 2AM EST on NBC Sports for you night owls. ;)

[DJPimpFlex]

First Qualifying of the season up at 2AM EST on NBC Sports for you night owls. ;)

sky > NBC

Can

Not

Wait

[soryu]

DAT turbo.

[AFSil80]

Hell of a result for Magnussen!

[!Zar!]

Ricciardo was disqualified due to his car going over the 100kg/h fuel flow limit consistently, despite warnings from the FIA.

I feel bad, he's seems like such a genuine guy, and had such a strong showing all weekend.

[DJPimpFlex]

Ricciardo was disqualified due to his car going over the 100kg/h fuel flow limit consistently, despite warnings from the FIA.

I feel bad, he's seems like such a genuine guy, and had such a strong showing all weekend.

I just read all the technical information about this and it seems that Redbull was giving a warning during the race but ignored it. Basically the FIA sensor read something and the teams internal sensors read something else. They will appeal and the sensor was possibly malfunctioning during P1-3.

[Freddy]

the fuel flow limit is too low. past 11.5k rpm there is no gain. So no one is revving to 15k.

[onehundredoctane]

Weird turn of events. . . very happy with the podium results but on a technicality robbing second place?

[Gerdo007]

Cant wait to see it live.

[Gnnr]

Great race weekend overall. Race was real exciting in the first quarter, pretty much uneventful after that.

FIA is full of shit. :rolleyes:

[woodchuck]

tough break for hamilton.

[Gnnr]

sky > NBC

Can

Not

Wait

I'm in search of some live streams for next weekend. The only practice session NBCSN is broadcasting is FP2 and its delayed. :down: PM me if you got any good links for live streams

[DJPimpFlex]

Check on reddit they usually post streams

[Gnnr]

Malaysia FP1 in 45 minutes lets see if I can find a stream. :x:

[Gnnr]

Bahrain the most exciting race so far! Love the new nightime setup. :bigok:

[DJPimpFlex]

Bahrain the most exciting race so far! Love the new nightime setup. :bigok:

Yea that was nuts! I'm so glad they they let the Merc drivers race against each other. Their pace is undeniable. like 25 seconds in 12 laps haha.

[HyperTek]

I used to say Bahrain was one of the most borring races to watch.. that was awesome!

[drift freaq]

One of the most exciting races I have watched in quite awhile. I actually want to watch it again it was so good. Now if they can only do something about the damn sound of the engines. Lol Actually the engines are rev limited pretty hard this year. We are not seeing 16-18k shifts anymore.

I actually think if Jean Todd would loosen up the regs a bit to allow higher revs we would get back some that high whine and shriek. Of course it would also make the teams have to work harder on the reliability.

[DJPimpFlex]

They are rev limited based on the fuel flow available. They are allowed 15k but no one goes to that. Barely 11k.

[AFSil80]

Super Maldonado Kart strikes again...

[Scope240sx]

that was a great race, the best in a couple seasons.
the battle at mercedes is highly competitive, anybody see the post race podium interviews? Cut that tension with a knife

[DJPimpFlex]

that was a great race, the best in a couple seasons.
the battle at mercedes is highly competitive, anybody see the post race podium interviews? Cut that tension with a knife

Love it. Both Nico and Lewis have excellent racecraft and they respect each other but you can tell that they both will do anything to win. I think that Nico probably understands the format better but Lewis seems to be able to find that extra tenth whenever he needs it. Absolutely fascinating racing. Say what you want about the v6 turbo era of F1 but I absolutely love everything about it!

[Scope240sx]

yeah definitely. Such good competition this year, although Mercedes created a 24 second gap in ten laps! The best race this year has been for 3rd place! All the competition is with the mercedes powered units. Did you see the president of ferrari turn in disgust? haha

[Gnnr]

They are rev limited based on the fuel flow available. They are allowed 15k but no one goes to that. Barely 11k.

Yeah, I think F1 needs to cut the crap on this whole being "green" thing. The cars barely get 5MPG for the entirety of the race. If they truly wanted to be green they'd stop racing.

[DJPimpFlex]

Yeah, I think F1 needs to cut the crap on this whole being "green" thing. The cars barely get 5MPG for the entirety of the race. If they truly wanted to be green they'd stop racing.

Well I don't think they ever were doing it for cost concerns. It is truly amazing that they are about to go the same distance and within 1 second of last year already with 30% less fuel. The efficiency that they are able to produce is really cool.

Anyone else read this?

http://jalopnik.com/mercedes-f1s-secret-is-it-split-its-turbo-in-half-1558154190

I think this is probably one of the coolest ideas yet.

[Scope240sx]

damn... blew my mind right now. so this is why the mercedes powered units are killin it!?

[DJPimpFlex]

damn... blew my mind right now. so this is why the mercedes powered units are killin it!?

One of many reasons. With the split turbo they can package tighter and they have less cooling requirements (smaller intercoolers=smaller sidepods=better aerodynamics). They knew that they were going to do this from the beginning so their car takes full advantage of it and it shows in their performance.

They also have their systems really well sorted. The brake by wire is throwing the balance off for a lot of teams. Williams in particular has a lot of electronic technology that they work with outside of F1 so they are one of the teams that have really gotten that right and it shows in their vastly improved form year over year.

[drift freaq]

Love it. Both Nico and Lewis have excellent racecraft and they respect each other but you can tell that they both will do anything to win. I think that Nico probably understands the format better but Lewis seems to be able to find that extra tenth whenever he needs it. Absolutely fascinating racing. Say what you want about the v6 turbo era of F1 but I absolutely love everything about it!

Oh don't get me wrong there are things to like about these changes .Though I do feel that the whole greener thing is rather ludicrous. I mean if you are going to talk green just stop racing combustion engines all together. Impressive as the reduced fuel consumption is it's still nothing to get excited about. IMO

I just feel the whole high revving shriek of the engines was an electrifying thing that added to the spectacle and vibe that made F1 quite exciting for spectators. Taking that away was a big mistake in the promotions department. F1 is after all a money making enterprise and in that sense relies on the money paying spectator to spend the money to see it. If you take away something that e cites the spectator they lose interest and stop paying. Many people in the business including drivers have spoken up about this already pretty much saying the same thing I have pointed out here.

[DJPimpFlex]

Oh don't get me wrong there are things to like about these changes .Though I do feel that the whole greener thing is rather ludicrous. I mean if you are going to talk green just stop racing combustion engines all together. Impressive as the reduced fuel consumption is it's still nothing to get excited about. IMO

I just feel the whole high revving shriek of the engines was an electrifying thing that added to the spectacle and vibe that made F1 quite exciting for spectators. Taking that away was a big mistake in the promotions department. F1 is after all a money making enterprise and in that sense relies on the money paying spectator to spend the money to see it. If you take away something that e cites the spectator they lose interest and stop paying. Many people in the business including drivers have spoken up about this already pretty much saying the same thing I have pointed out here.


Yea I hear that a lot. Idk I've never really been a sound purest. I like all car sounds but I'm not particular. I drive a nasty V8 drift car now so I really don't care about sound haha.

[Scope240sx]

One of many reasons. With the split turbo they can package tighter and they have less cooling requirements (smaller intercoolers=smaller sidepods=better aerodynamics). They knew that they were going to do this from the beginning so their car takes full advantage of it and it shows in their performance.

They also have their systems really well sorted. The brake by wire is throwing the balance off for a lot of teams. Williams in particular has a lot of electronic technology that they work with outside of F1 so they are one of the teams that have really gotten that right and it shows in their vastly improved form year over year.

true true & true. Also williams has massa now, & I forget the gent that came over from ferrari with him. Along with Bottas they have a nice lil' 1-2. Force-India is doing extremely well this year so far! Perez & the Hulk is a good team. Can't wait for the middle of the season, should be some great races. Really surprised mercedes guys didnt bump into each other & muck up the points.

Going back to what you said earlier about hamilton having that extra tenth, it seemed he just didnt care too much if the cars crashed into each other. Really making nico drive defensively. Senna-Prost rivalry here we come!

[migzs14]

I was actually rooting for nico to finish ahead but lewis drove one heck of a race. Not a silver arrow fan but I must give them props. It was such a good race that I pulled out the old G25 and F1 2012 on the ps3 hahaha. I would have to say this was one of the best F1 race that I've seen in a while. Mostly because of the inter-team battles.

[soryu]

Yup, dem last laps.

[ManoNegra]

Would have never guessed I'd be saying this but thank you Maldonado, your continuous shitty driving and the safety car that followed provided for one of the better finishes in recent memory.

[Gnnr]

Would have never guessed I'd be saying this but thank you Maldonado, your continuous shitty driving and the safety car that followed provided for one of the better finishes in recent memory.

I don't know how that buffoon has an FIA license! lol

I think this shows they need to change the ridiculous regulation for the front nose as the cars are now scooping each other up. Same thing happened with Kobayashi in the first race.

[DJPimpFlex]

I don't know how that buffoon has an FIA license! lol

I think this shows they need to change the ridiculous regulation for the front nose as the cars are now scooping each other up. Same thing happened with Kobayashi in the first race.

PDVSA Money..... It's unfortunate but he really did Nico Hulkenberg a favor by buying the Lotus seat.

[Gnnr]

China GP weekend. My body is ready.

[DJPimpFlex]

Yes Yes Yes!!! Also did anyone read the tech on the Merc motor? It's absolutely amazing.

http://www.f1times.co.uk//news/cache/images/mercedes-engine.png

http://www.f1times.co.uk/news/display/08774

[DJPimpFlex]

Also this happened....

TF7B6oTbwnQ

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Oh Maldonado....

[spooled240]

Yes Yes Yes!!! Also did anyone read the tech on the Merc motor? It's absolutely amazing.

http://www.f1times.co.uk//news/cache/images/mercedes-engine.png

http://www.f1times.co.uk/news/display/08774

very cool. The only disadvantage I could think of with this setup is the added rotational mass with the extended turbo shaft, but that's probably not even a problem with the mgu-h

[DJPimpFlex]

very cool. The only disadvantage I could think of with this setup is the added rotational mass with the extended turbo shaft, but that's probably not even a problem with the mgu-h

It gets even more crazy with the way the MGUH works. It's basically 1 way clutches so they can be disengaged to electrically spool the turbo (thus eliminating lag) much more efficiently than the renault setup where they have to spool both housings. They also can disengage the compressor side and run the motor at full throttle under braking to harvest electrical energy. It's so amazing and simple.

This technology will change everything as the biggest problem the current hybrid cars like the prius have is freeway cruising as they don't harvest any electricity unless they are braking.

[HyperTek]

Haas to enter F1.. I am excited for a new US based team.
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2014/04/14/haas-base-new-f1-team-america/

[JadedNazgul]

Were are you guys watching the races? reddit? all I've been able to do is watch the highlights and hear peter windsor's reviews and commentary on you tube..

[DJPimpFlex]

I download after the fact usually. Sky is way better than us imo

[JadedNazgul]

What did you guys think of the race? I feel bad for Massa, that bullshit pitstop cost him a possible sixth place. Overall though a cool race, It's great to see Ferrari making a comeback..

[drift freaq]

It gets even more crazy with the way the MGUH works. It's basically 1 way clutches so they can be disengaged to electrically spool the turbo (thus eliminating lag) much more efficiently than the renault setup where they have to spool both housings. They also can disengage the compressor side and run the motor at full throttle under braking to harvest electrical energy. It's so amazing and simple.

This technology will change everything as the biggest problem the current hybrid cars like the prius have is freeway cruising as they don't harvest any electricity unless they are braking.

Ya Maclaren actually seems to have actually come with some cool stuff in this department with the new SP1 Supercar.

On the race it was not bad but no comparison to the last one . Lol it was interesting to watch Vettel ignore team orders once again but wind up having to submit after tire degradation.
It's also fascinating to learn that Red Bull actually has been building cars to suit Vettel's driving style at the expense of the other drivers in the past. There were comments about how Vettel was not getting along with the new chassis but Riccardo loves it and is going very fast with it. Apparently the same thing happened a few years ago and Webber got along well and they they changed the design to better suit Vettel. It does show the claim of favoritism at Red Bull is quite true and one wonders if they will now change the chassis to better suit Vettel yet again at Riccardo's expense. At least Riccardo has proven he will not let Vettel push him around or be awed by his record.

[Cheesy Doriftos]

woo go lewis :)

[DJPimpFlex]

Listening to a lot of podcast and commentary opinion and what a lot of people are saying is that since the blown diffuser and coranda exhaust have been outlawed that the cars (especially the redbull) have a lot less downforce and Vettle is having a lot of trouble with it while Ricciardo is used to driving a car with less downforce so he's doing rather well. It's good to see Vettle have a teammate that can battle him.

[AFSil80]

It's good to see Vettel not win all the time.

Edited for correctness.

[HyperTek]

Vettel reminds me of King Joffery from Game of Thrones lol

[Gnnr]

Listening to a lot of podcast and commentary opinion and what a lot of people are saying is that since the blown diffuser and coranda exhaust have been outlawed that the cars (especially the redbull) have a lot less downforce and Vettle is having a lot of trouble with it while Ricciardo is used to driving a car with less downforce so he's doing rather well. It's good to see Vettle have a teammate that can battle him.

This. Even if they design a car that would favor Vettle for next year (more downforce or what not), I think Riccardo is still capable of getting the best of him.

Great race though, good to see Ferrari up there. Disappointing that Grosjean couldn't finish, that guy is a beast driving, look how he got that turd to Qualy 3!

I expect for there to be a lot of battling in the midfield next race as I think Williams, Force India and Lotus will have a stronger showing.

[DJPimpFlex]

I can't wait for Spain. Catalunya is a absolutely fantastic track and Alonso always finds something extra in front of the home crowd.

[migzs14]

What a crazy start to china.... I'm surprised Fernando and Nico did not get any penalties for hitting the Williams. The way they are handing out penalties this year seems very harsh and at times stupid. After watching the replays of both incidents I'm left wondering how the race directors did not give even a drive through for avoidable contact. Anyways thought the race was pretty good but yea msnbc sucks compared to sky or even when it was on speed channel. I guess Leigh Diffey is not the right commentator for me, I prefer Bob Varsha. What I hate the most is when they switch to commercials and only open a small window because they need to show commercials. Luckily I've found a solution, the spanish station Univision also broadcast F1 and on time (msnbc is a few seconds delayed) plus they don't do the little stupid window. They only post the commercial brands on the sides or underneath. So the picture barely gets shrunk down plus they don't take away the sound. Anyways Force India and Red Bull scored points so I'm happy.

[drift freaq]

What a crazy start to china.... I'm surprised Fernando and Nico did not get any penalties for hitting the Williams. The way they are handing out penalties this year seems very harsh and at times stupid. After watching the replays of both incidents I'm left wondering how the race directors did not give even a drive through for avoidable contact. Anyways thought the race was pretty good but yea msnbc sucks compared to sky or even when it was on speed channel. I guess Leigh Diffey is not the right commentator for me, I prefer Bob Varsha. What I hate the most is when they switch to commercials and only open a small window because they need to show commercials. Luckily I've found a solution, the spanish station Univision also broadcast F1 and on time (msnbc is a few seconds delayed) plus they don't do the little stupid window. They only post the commercial brands on the sides or underneath. So the picture barely gets shrunk down plus they don't take away the sound. Anyways Force India and Red Bull scored points so I'm happy.

Personally I fee the opposite no love lost on not having Bob Varsha around or the horrid way Speed started handling F1 under the Fox banner. When it was Speed Channel,it was dope but Fox destroyed it. NBCS has been doing a great job in my opinion. Plus Varsha was a commentator that would say so of the dumbest shit because he had no real motorsports experience. Everyone one the broadcast team now has either been a race car driver or worked on F1 crews. All knowledgable commentators.

[JadedNazgul]

Yeah I thought the NBCS broadcast was alright, the commercials not so much. How about this moment though? when Kobayashi passed vettel lol....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpJppeDv61U

[migzs14]

Yea I cried a little when kobayashi passed Vettel. But glad to see he is doing a great job in a rear pack car.

[Gnnr]

I actually prefer the NBCSN broadcast to the SkyF1 now. I'm catching the live feeds of FP1 and FP3 for SkyF1, but the small talk on SkyF1 grows thin on me after a while. Maybe its their style? I dunno. I like it better when it was on BBC.

In other news it seems the race actually ended early :eek3:

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2014/04/20/race-result-called-two-laps-early-due-flag-error/

[andmattsayd]

http://wtf1.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/BfE9HojCYAA7p2O.jpg
http://wtf1.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/ferrarivac_zps08f7c432.jpg

[ManoNegra]

Someone should make a shirt out of the second one.

[HyperTek]

Guess spectators aren't too thrilled with the quietness of current cars... but on TV the racing is great, i think its awesome to hear the mechanical sounds of the cars, tire squealing and lock ups etc.

But they want to do something about making the cars more visually entertaining
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/113621

[soryu]

+1 on the mechanical sounds.
bernie in court today.

[MisawaJason]

So FP3 and Quali is about to start at Monaco and this thread has been dead for a month!?! Damn

[SimpleSexy180]

personally driving them itsall about current linguistics in terms of personully adjustable barbells

[simmode1]

Monaco was the first race I was able to watch this year. Very pleased to see Vettel being minimized. Digging the competition his teammate is giving Lewis & Nico. Loving the drama developing between two old friends like Lewis & Nico.I wish more races would get aired on network tv. My internet speed sucks too bad to stream it.

[JadedNazgul]

What a disappointment for kimi, if it wasn't for that piece of shit marussia, I'm pretty sure he could of held on to third.

[SimpleSexy180]

speed,thecar or f1motortran the field advantage begins in neutroll<~ thespeed advantage is at thetrack but the tyre can last about as neutroll until motor dissapates the fuel manage

[soryu]

Stop.
BTW,
What happened to madonado?

[JadedNazgul]

@soryu: Fuel pump failure, he didn't even start. Which is a good thing for the other drivers...
http://www.planetf1.com/driver/20259/9325682/Maldonado-disappointed-with-non-start

[Gnnr]

So FP3 and Quali is about to start at Monaco and this thread has been dead for a month!?! Damn

What? I've been watching! :p Just hadn't posted in the thread, lol

[Cheesy Doriftos]

lewis hamilton so unlucky :(

crazy finish tho. no perfect season for mercedes, ricciardo still > vettel, and that massa/perez crash was wild.

[BossHogg]

vettel still did some good driving. Their shit just looks weak. He's always so close to the wall and he had his head up to dodge from getting nailed at the end there. Not to mention made that pass in all the debri. Good skills.

[simmode1]

As much as I hate Vettel, I couldn't hate on how he evaded those crashes! Right through that middle! Damn! I think that very moment made my wife want to go see the race in Austin this year. Yay!

I'm glad Mercedes got some Championship points, but I would have almost preferred if Nico has retired along with Lewis due to both their braking issues. Seeing Nico start to pull away from Lewis in the points is making me anxious.

lewis hamilton so unlucky :(
Yeah, Canada was killer on the braking systems this year. Seems like anyone who was chasing hard in dirty air either killed their brakes & had to retire or killed their car smashing it into a wall.

[ManoNegra]

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/formula1/27765143

Perez denies any wrongdoing and says he cannot understand Massa's manoeuvre.

The Mexican said he was following the same line as in previous laps and "just got hit from behind".

He added: "I watched several replays of the incident and I can't help but notice how Felipe turns right just before he hits me.

"I can only think he must have changed his mind and wanted to rejoin the racing line. His misjudgement cost us a big amount of points."

BObcBrAe-ro


Wasn't very clear to me from the footage shown on NBC
but it appears to me from the above video that Perez turned into Massa.
Not sure what replays Perez is referring to.

[simmode1]

^^^Hmmm... I had just assumed Massa's brakes failed in the corner like everybody elses & he plowed into Perez entering the corner. I guess there's more than meets the eye...

[ManoNegra]

Maldonado approved

http://cdn-3.motorsport.com/static/img/mgl/1600000/1670000/1674000/1674200/1674243/s4_1.jpg

[JadedNazgul]

Yeah fuck perez, he got penalized five grid places for the next race. If his car had no brakes then he shouldn't be anywhere near the racing line, He turned into Massa. On the other hand Massa should of been able to see the slower force india and wait to overtake after the corner. Still a badass race though....

[migzs14]

Maldonado approved lol. mad props to you manonegra. As far as the perez/massa crash my take is that massa tries to go back on the racing line into the turn. But perez holds a wide line defending from massa. It was a heavy braking zone and I think both were having brake issues (we all heard perez) and massa was braking a bit earlier in that final laps. I think massa was a bit too aggressive for attacking an injured force india and could of waited for a more clearer chance. I like both drivers so i'm not my best not to choose a side. On a more positive note, how bout riccardo for the win. I kinda wish he said " FIA try and take this one away from me"

[simmode1]

On a more positive note, how bout riccardo for the win. I kinda wish he said &quot; FIA try and take this one away from me&quot;

Man, he better take his win & keep his mouth shut. No point in making enemies when you don't need to. I love seeing him outdrive Vettel though, but Seb on one hell of a show too.

[Gnnr]

Maldonado approved


lmao! :rofl:

On a more positive note, how bout riccardo for the win. I kinda wish he said " FIA try and take this one away from me"

He's too much of a cool, relaxed character to ever do that.

[migzs14]

Yea your right about that. Thing that sucks is that Vettel is my favorite driver but Riccardo is pulling some great drives it's hard to ignore. Even Timo Gluck in the DTM series got me rooting for him.

[soryu]

^where do you watch DTM?

[migzs14]

It used to be broadcast on youtube, but then they youtube got stupid and didn't allow it to be shown in "the country". It was english commentary. Now to watch it, download "Hola" (Access websites blocked or censored in your country, company or school with the free Hola Unblocker VPN proxy service.) which lets you get broadcasting from other countries.
Not too long ago the UK youtube stopped broadcasting too so the best one is in german. It's easy to follow though because they keep a positions table on the side or or the bottom. Paul di resta is in it too if your a fan of him. One downside is that in the pacific coast race start at 4:45 am if I'm not mistaken.

[BossHogg]

here is the view from vettel.

http://coub.com/view/20x2g

[SimpleSexy180]

lack a minute in time . wheel bearer & the tire last in spectroll every platformed concreted formation

[SimpleSexy180]

are we ready for a gook platform of just a good contact of tire mash?theyd race unblatantly forearm contract type of mine powered auto cool!whos up fore 1

[BossHogg]

lack a minute in time . wheel bearer & the tire last in spectroll every platformed concreted formation

are we ready for a gook platform of just a good contact of tire mash?theyd race unblatantly forearm contract type of mine powered auto cool!whos up fore 1

Hold on, let me get my translater so you can understand my message.

watch?v=gytCi5a7AJg

Now what is your opinion on that?

[SimpleSexy180]

transferm! separate the egos but admitted in plum timing the curve in dash markers!

[MisawaJason]

Anyone watch qualifying for the British GP? Pretty crazy stuff. Should make for an interesting race

[soryu]

Dat Hamilton.

[MisawaJason]

What a crazy GP so far. Red flagged on the first lap for the first time since Monaco 2000. Kimi seems to have an ankle issue and possible knee problems following his terrible crash. Seems like the longest red flag session since Canada a few years ago. Craziness

[MisawaJason]

what a race

[HyperTek]

Gotta admit the guy is living the dream!
lRgQ2x87PEc

[240o'clock]

Nice man cool beans!!!

[Agamemnon]

Alonso/Vettel battle was the highlight of the race!

[Gnnr]

Man, the German GP was very entertaining watching Hamilton and Riccardo battle all the way from the back! The crashes and amount of contact this weekend was insane too! :eek3:

[scottie]

Man, the German GP was very entertaining watching Hamilton and Riccardo battle all the way from the back! The crashes and amount of contact this weekend was insane too! :eek3:

When I saw Riccardo battle Alonso with heavily used tires on the RB I was shocked. The man has skills.

[OBEEWON]

Wow, not sure how I have been missing this thread.
Even more confusing...why isn't this being discussed?!

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-jbnfRHLQDbE/U_thjCHOC0I/AAAAAAAAOls/xdchLjjz4LA/s1600/hamilton_rosberg-incident.gif

http://25.media.tumblr.com/f9f1924e375e5ed4343f5e6bfe669f1c/tumblr_mhp8plbiz31r0y4hzo1_400.gif
http://24.media.tumblr.com/a9d80b083feeca1ac2448bbda158d8e8/tumblr_mhp8plbiz31r0y4hzo2_400.gif
http://25.media.tumblr.com/64bd804103f032ce431a0f6600893b11/tumblr_mhp8plbiz31r0y4hzo3_400.gif
http://25.media.tumblr.com/bb7a50146f8e922e6581b34bea7f2afd/tumblr_mhp8plbiz31r0y4hzo4_400.gif

[Scope240sx]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-jbnfRHLQDbE/U_thjCHOC0I/AAAAAAAAOls/xdchLjjz4LA/s1600/hamilton_rosberg-incident.gif


I watched this when it aired on NBC, looked like it was not an accident to me. What do you guys think?

Now it gives daniel a position for 2nd place I believe around 60pts back now. Last race of the year is DOUBLE points.. anything can happen still..

[OBEEWON]

1. Holy Crap I flippin' love how Ricciardo drives.
2. It didn't appear to be an accident, the in car made it look even malicious and calculated.
3. If you do something to prove a point, how does that not make it purposeful?
4. The battle for 5th was the best part of the race. Good to see Button and Kimi not way down at the bottom.

[Scope240sx]

^ when i was watching that i was like this guy rosberg! i dont think it was an accident at all.. lewis got the jump i dont see how thats 50/50 like race control said it was..

exactly, he calculated that the damage to his front wing was worth the risk of lewis' tire puncturing. I didnt want to be a guy and just sate that, but thats my belief on what happened out there. He (nico) could have easily stayed in 2nd... he(nico) was there for like less than a lap and got impatient. It seems to me Mercedes doesnt want lewis to win.. cant even get the car to brake correctly. Cant see how you can have problems with that car (lewis) and Nico has a perfect car. Im not bias towards lewis.. I actually think that guy is a douche and a complainer. Espcially in previous years... If a driver like Fernando Alonso was in that mercedes chassis there wouldnt be a competition between drivers 1&2..


yeah agreed battle for 5th was awesome. Daniel drives like a mad man. He made a comment that proved he was beyond his age already, it was after his first battle with Alonso. He said something along the lines of being in a battle like that with another driver and coming out in front is almost as satisfying as a win.

No doubt a future F1 champ..

[OBEEWON]

Yeah man. Once Red Bull catches up Ricciardo will be one of the greats. I can see it. Also the fact that he is such a nice guy and genuinely having fun makes it easy to root for him.

Hamilton and Nico can sound like little brats, but I think Hamilton handled all the crap that has been thrown his way this year fairly well. His team has made some stupid strategic descisions, his car seems to break down 4:1 in comparison to Nico's, the stewards do not only seem to not favor him in inquiries, they seem to be against him. When it comes to wheel to wheel racing I have not seen anyone this year aside from Ricciardo be a real challenge to him. Nico is not even close in the "same" car with faster tires as Bahrain proved. So IF Lewis can pull off a championship, that will be an amazing feat.

[onehundredoctane]

4. The battle for 5th was the best part of the race. Good to see Button and Kimi not way down at the bottom.

Seconded. My wife and I were glued to that part of the race.

If Hamilton wants to bitch about the incident with Nico, then maybe we should review all the times that he's bumped into people when he cut them off to make a turn. . . cry baby.

[simmode1]

Scope, it's really interesting to see the rivalry between Lewis & Nico because they used to be very close friends. All that changed at Monaco when Lewis made that statement basically saying that he grew up in the hood & Nico grew up a spoiled rich kid, so Lewis is hungrier to win... Ever since then, Nico has been stabbing Lewis in the back at EVERY opportunity. The rivalry is both exciting & frustrating to watch, because of their fighting, they've allowed Ricciardo to get within striking distance... The Mercedes boys need to get their shit together before Redbull swoops in for the win 5 years running...

[Moore]

Riccaiardo is already making seb look slow. The car is nothing like the dominate car it has been for the past 4 years, he's driving like alonso who's always around the top 5 but never with a top 5 car.

Nico's tricky that turn is slow motion for an f1 driver he knew exactly what was going to happen. so did the crowd

[OBEEWON]

I can't agree that Hamilton has done anything nearly as malicious. He has done some questionable stuff being overly aggressive, but his track positioning is absolutely excellent. Borderline blocking.

I meant to say I used to dislike Vettel, but I feel bad for him. I think he is handling being outpaced by Ricciardo very well. Dude has matured.

[soryu]

Full discussion on the post show.

Rosberg pushing hard.

[AFSil80]

I think it goes without saying that the Mercedes' bosses are not happy with Rosberg over this.

http://www1.skysports.com/f1/report/12472/9438334/seething-toto-wolff-hits-out-after-nico-rosberg-punctures-lewis-hamiltons-tyre-at-spa

[HyperTek]

double points at last race, i wont doubt someone may take someone out on purpose to hold back 2nd place... Rosberg and hamilton like Senna and Prost at Suzuka

[scottie]

I don't see what the big deal is. Nico made an attempt to out brake Lewis at the corner. His front wheel was at Lewis' "door". Nico backed out when he realized Lewis wasn't going to give an inch. They rubbed; Nico lost part of his wing and Lewis got a flat. It's called a RACING INCIDENT. The move was never under investigation by the stewards for goodness sake.

I personally like how Mercedes is allowing their drivers to battle. Screw team order bullshit.

[soryu]

I like the battleing too
but like wolf said not on the 2nd lap or 1st I'm buzzing right now.
Hamilton gonna come back harder.

[Gnnr]

I meant to say I used to dislike Vettel, but I feel bad for him. I think he is handling being outpaced by Ricciardo very well. Dude has matured.

Never liked him, he's a cock and isn't able to adapt to cars which aren't 100% tailored for him. Matured? He was whining quite a lot on the radio this season.

If Hamilton wants to bitch about the incident with Nico, then maybe we should review all the times that he's bumped into people when he cut them off to make a turn. . . cry baby.

Fact is Lewis this year has been the most reserved publicly and on the track. Two consecutive races he came form the back of the field and did not have any incidents. Which BTW shows he is the far superior driver in that team. The only time he's been aggressive has been battling with Nico and even that has not happened so much because he keeps getting the shit car and winds up with a DNF. Apparently the plan at Mercedes must be if Nico doesn't take him out a mechanical failure will.

I don't see what the big deal is. Nico made an attempt to out brake Lewis at the corner. His front wheel was at Lewis' "door". Nico backed out when he realized Lewis wasn't going to give an inch. They rubbed; Nico lost part of his wing and Lewis got a flat. It's called a RACING INCIDENT. The move was never under investigation by the stewards for goodness sake.

Racing incident my ass. Nico is a fucking cheat and has fallen out of favor with the public since Monaco. I hope they keep booing him, and if I end up at Austin I'll boo his ass too.

If anyone wants to give Nico the benefit of the doubt for Monaco, ok, fine. But when things repeatedly keep happening at what point are we just fooling ourselves? Whining on the radio that Lewis didn't just give up a position and let him through? Copying Lewis's driving style after reviewing Lewis's telemetry because Nico's instincts are garbage compared to Lewis. If Lewish didn't have all these DNF we wouldn't be having these conversations. Not to mention Lewis's pitstops keep getting butchered to boot.

[drift freaq]

Hamilton is by far the better driver and yes Mercedes as a team most likely wants to see Rosberg win the Championship as it would be a German team German driver. If someone wants to complain about Lewis doing dirty things, truthfully none of what has gone on since Schumacher can rival the number of underhanded things he did to get his way. Vettel also has been guilty of not following team orders many times.
Ricciardo is an amazing driver who is definitely better at adapting to cars whereas Vettel does need the car more tailored to his driving style. Spa was indeed exciting for what was happening in the fourth through seventh driving positions.

Funny thing is Rosberg has actually come forward and said that the incident he caused was indeed not favorable for the team. It leads me to believe initially it was not intentionally malicious but more just overly aggressive.
One cannot say that Hamilton did not have a right to be upset.
At least we are not seeing another season of Vettel/Redbull just dominating to the point of boring.

[AFSil80]

At least we are not seeing another season of Vettel/Redbull just dominating to the point of boring.

This...I'm actually watching this season unlike the last 2 years.

[OBEEWON]

Never liked him, he's a cock and isn't able to adapt to cars which aren't 100% tailored for him. Matured? He was whining quite a lot on the radio this season.



Fact is Lewis this year has been the most reserved publicly and on the track. Two consecutive races he came form the back of the field and did not have any incidents. Which BTW shows he is the far superior driver in that team. The only time he's been aggressive has been battling with Nico and even that has not happened so much because he keeps getting the shit car and winds up with a DNF. Apparently the plan at Mercedes must be if Nico doesn't take him out a mechanical failure will.



Racing incident my ass. Nico is a fucking cheat and has fallen out of favor with the public since Monaco. I hope they keep booing him, and if I end up at Austin I'll boo his ass too.

If anyone wants to give Nico the benefit of the doubt for Monaco, ok, fine. But when things repeatedly keep happening at what point are we just fooling ourselves? Whining on the radio that Lewis didn't just give up a position and let him through? Copying Lewis's driving style after reviewing Lewis's telemetry because Nico's instincts are garbage compared to Lewis. If Lewish didn't have all these DNF we wouldn't be having these conversations. Not to mention Lewis's pitstops keep getting butchered to boot.


I can't say I disagree with anything you said. Truth.

[simmode1]

Lewis called Nico out at Monaco & Nico has been driving cheap ever since to get the wins by any means necessary. But ill gotten gains are short lived.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/formulaone/article-2737678/Nico-Rosberg-fined-six-figure-sum-collision-Mercedes-team-mate-Lewis-Hamilton-Belgian-Grand-prix.html

Nico fined hundreds of thousands & Lewis comes out smelling like a rose. Honestly, I hope they can get their friendship back on track. They've been buddies since they were kids & could build a dynasty together at Mercedes if they get their shit together. But we will see how they look in Italy though.

[OBEEWON]

Just as Hamilton said, nothing happened.

Crash your rival out of a race for a few hundred thousand dollars in fines vs. win world title.

In his mind it was worth it.
The admission, the fine, the apology all worth F1 doing something about it.

[Gnnr]

I've become quite the podcast fiend this year (thank you podcast addict). It just occurred to me to add some F1 podcasts to the mix. So far I've listened to F1Rejects and BBC's Chequered Flag and have really enjoyed them. I'll be going through Sidepodcast, F1Weekly, Formula1Blog, Motorsport Magazine and Sky Sport's F1 podcast during my daily commute to see who else makes the cut, lol.

[HyperTek]

i usually just watch bbc's coverage when my uk proxy program works.. sadly doesnt work that great anymore and i have to watch nbc's... I like eddie jordan, as he usually is the first to call out accurate rumers

[!Zar!]

Lewis won. All is well in the universe.

[DJPimpFlex]

Solid race. This season is going down to double dabi for sure.

[Gnnr]

Yes, Lewis won but I'm more happy that Massa was on the podium. :)

[simmode1]

Lewis won. All is well in the universe.

All will be right when Lewis is back in the lead for the Championship, IMO. But this is a good start.

[Scope240sx]

sim, i think points race is over already. I got a funny feeling, oh and they are like 22+ points from each other.
We are going into the season where courses are tighter, other cars will actually have a chance. Basically more braking, hamiltons car cant brake this year, they just break instead. I think hamiilton will win a few more races, but will also get at least 1 or 2 more DNF. rosberg will have no more DNf and easy coast to #1 in points.
Williams will win a race this year, (i hope)
IF hamilton closes the gap (points), double DNF will happen before this season ends.

oh & final prediction Kobayashi PODIUM in japan.... hahahahah jk... itll be danny boy on top for suzuka!

[Gnnr]

sim, i think points race is over already. I got a funny feeling, oh and they are like 22+ points from each other.
We are going into the season where courses are tighter, other cars will actually have a chance. Basically more braking, hamiltons car cant brake this year, they just break instead. I think hamiilton will win a few more races, but will also get at least 1 or 2 more DNF. rosberg will have no more DNf and easy coast to #1 in points.
Williams will win a race this year, (i hope)
IF hamilton closes the gap (points), double DNF will happen before this season ends.

oh & final prediction Kobayashi PODIUM in japan.... hahahahah jk... itll be danny boy on top for suzuka!

Daniel Riccciardo is still a legitimate threat. A couple of more DNFs from either Nico or Hamilton and goodbye Driver's championship. That double points race makes it an even bigger toss up.

[onehundredoctane]

Daniel Riccciardo is still a legitimate threat.

Agreed.

Now if Vettel could put up a good fight, I swear it's like someone has cursed him or his car. Then again, tons of teams having car problems this year. . . not just Mercedes and Red Bull.

[driftheart]

Yes, Lewis won but I'm more happy that Massa was on the podium. :)

Yea,it was nice to see Massa up there, there still seems to be a ton of love from the fans at Monza even though he's not with Ferrari.

[!Zar!]

Luca di Montezemolo of Ferrari stepped down.

WOW

[OBEEWON]

Yes. Wow.

Anyone peep how Nico tried to hint like he let Lewis win?
But he was getting mad when they kept telling him the gap.
Heard footsteps and messed up.

[simmode1]

Oh man.... Singapor's coming up! Can't wait! Only 6 races left to go... Just 22 points separate Nico & Lewis. If Lewis wins 1st & Nico wins 2nd for the next 4 races, Hamilton will overtake him in points with 2 races remaining... But best case scenarios haven't been in Lewis' favor this year. This is gonna be good. Better not DNF!

[soryu]

Oh DNF.

Hopefully massa can make some moves and get on the podium.

[Gnnr]

Typhoon threatening Japan GP! :eek3:

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/formula1/29455024

[soryu]

Tuff track for Hamilton.

[Freddy]

So vettel leaving red bull for Ferrari....

[OBEEWON]

What a weird race. The entire time I felt like something bad was going to happen. I honestly thought Hamilton and Nico would wreck again and someone get hurt. No idea it would be Jules.

Here's a Vine video of the crash. Nuts!

https://vine.co/v/OK69b15iP1T



https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5597/15273235140_b907a9f03e_b.jpg

[DJPimpFlex]

This has been one of the most intense race weekends that I can remember. Very unfortunate for Jules, and I know we all wish him the best. I hadn't seen that video, seriously intense.

[drift freaq]

Wow I wonder who got those. Vid shots. It definitely was no available on the syndicated feed.
Ya it was strange, first race I have watched in ages that I was just kinda like oh Lewis won. Up till the end I was pretty excited about the whole thing and then this happened it was like doom descends.
I wish Jules a quick and speedy recovery and that this does affect his rising star.

[HyperTek]

this type of head accident looms over Marussia imo.. cant forget maria de villota had a similar accident (hit trailer) and eventually died a year later. They are just never the same after that.

I havent seen anything that horrific since Dan Weldon's indycar accident.. Open wheel racing will always have its risks...

[OBEEWON]

If the driver's heads weren't and stuffed way down in the chassis as they are he would have been decapitated. I think his only saving grace was the nose acted like a wedge and shot the truck up in the air. I couldn't see the damage to his helmet so I hope its just swelling and not a major fracture.

[soryu]

Oh massa
http://i57.tinypic.com/f9f4hx.jpg

[AFSil80]

For those of you on Twitter...some hilarious tweets regarding the race:

https://twitter.com/DarthPutinKGB

[OBEEWON]

https://i.imgflip.com/e2w4z.jpg (https://imgflip.com/i/e2w4z)

[simmode1]

I had a dream last night that Lewis won in Abu Dabi to take the championship, but I slept thru the entire race. I hope the first half of that comes true.

[OBEEWON]

You got your wish.

[AFSil80]

So friggin glad he won the championship.

[simmode1]

You got your wish.

Yep! I actually woke up in time to catch the race only to find out that NBC was only broadcasting it on cable, which I don't have/want. I really need to figure out these proxy service things before next year so I can watch live for free rather than torrenting it a day later. /facepalm

[drift freaq]

Yep! I actually woke up in time to catch the race only to find out that NBC was only broadcasting it on cable, which I don't have/want. I really need to figure out these proxy service things before next year so I can watch live for free rather than torrenting it a day later. /facepalm

Ya I am tired of paying direct cash. Either I jump to Dish for one of those two year intro deals or I cut the cord.

Oh and the what if it old you Inalready won Meme is great.

[migzs14]

With dish I have to watch it on a Spanish channel. If I want msnbc I have to pay too much for another package that includes that. My friend say good things about Verizon fios but won't know till I try it.

On lewis winning, I had a feeling he would win it even though I favored Nico between the two. Then what a surprise when Nico had engine trouble. O well years done and my driver moves onto Ferrari 💲💶💶💲

[IIIXziuR]

It was nice seeing Lewis get his 2nd ever championship.
After several upsetting seasons, he finally was with a strong team and champion chassis.

I do wish there was more of a proper battle between him and Nico in the final.
Lewis is definitely an amazing driver.

[Gnnr]

Superb season! Way to go Lewis! :bigok: