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Sforteen
01-21-2014, 08:23 PM
I don't post much, but i figured id post this up as not a lot of people seem to have done this.

This all started because i have broken 2 R200 pinions on fairly low power. I figured if i'm gonna upgrade the rear end might as well do it with the strongest Nissan offers..

Q45 and GTR R200 rear ends are tougher than S chassis r200's due to the larger pinons however they still have small rings and smaller output shafts.

The R230 is only about 5/16 of an inch wider than an R200, and approximently 1 inch taller.
The bolt spacing and location for the rear cover is different than the S14 R200 and front is spread apart further by 1 inch. Not really that big of a difference..

All i did was cut the pinion tunnel out deeper to allow the R230 to sit down into the subframe without bottoming out before it gets to sit on top of the fastening location. Removed the factory cage nuts and relocated them further out. Im using ES poly subframe bushings which have a .75" collar to space the subframe away from the chassis, this helped with clearance, combine that with a slightly thicker solid rear end bushing and i about got my extra inch of rear end housing clearance back.
The rear bushing housings on the subframe i cut out entirely as well. I will let pictures do the rest..

I also finished welding what the factory left behind and installed a subframe reinforment kit i got from Enjuku, and added a few touchs of my own, Its painted with Eastwood extreme chassis paint.


Questions comments feel free to ask.

240boi115
01-21-2014, 09:38 PM
that's some pretty clean work there man! im assuming it wouldn't be too much harder to do on an s13 chassis either...interesting.

Sforteen
02-05-2014, 12:07 PM
that's some pretty clean work there man! im assuming it wouldn't be too much harder to do on an s13 chassis either...interesting.


Thanks, yeah the work required would be very simular on an s13..

turbob16ef
02-09-2014, 06:49 PM
The 97+ q45 diffs can use z32 tt stubs (output shafts)
And the pre 97 came with 6 bolt shafts which use the 6 bolt big axles. I wanted to do the r230, but the q45 has been more than proven.

Sforteen
02-09-2014, 08:18 PM
The 97+ q45 diffs can use z32 tt stubs (output shafts)
And the pre 97 came with 6 bolt shafts which use the 6 bolt big axles. I wanted to do the r230, but the q45 has been more than proven.

How sure are you of this? the Z32 twin turbo has the biggest of all stubs shafts ive measured.. are the 97's 6 bolt?

The R230 stubs are 1mm bigger in diameter (31 spline) than the R32 GTR stubs and S15 helical stubs (30 spline), which are larger than the normal S chassis VLSD stubs (29 spline)

ultimateirving
02-09-2014, 10:29 PM
Very cool. GOod to see some diy work like this that is so clean.

turbob16ef
02-10-2014, 06:53 AM
The 97 diffs are 5 bolt, but the stubs from the pre97 are 6 bolt and slide right in.
I didn't mean to put z32 tt stubs. I meant to put the pre97.

My set up includes 97+ q45(4.69) diff with 95 (6bolt axle stubs) with z32 TT rear hubs/bearings. I'm also using the TT driver axle and q45 driver axles(pass side). If I remember right, the axles are 31 big spline, as are the hubs.

Sforteen
02-15-2014, 07:34 PM
The 97 diffs are 5 bolt, but the stubs from the pre97 are 6 bolt and slide right in.
I didn't mean to put z32 tt stubs. I meant to put the pre97.

My set up includes 97+ q45(4.69) diff with 95 (6bolt axle stubs) with z32 TT rear hubs/bearings. I'm also using the TT driver axle and q45 driver axles(pass side). If I remember right, the axles are 31 big spline, as are the hubs.

Hubs are 32 spline on Q45/GTR/Z32 TT, the stubs at the diff are 30 on the q45/GTR/S15 helical

Nissan Progressively made the splines larger towards the wheel on some models..I measured all these myself except the Q45 but im sure there the same as the axles interchange.

The stubs on the Z32TT are 31 spline

I kinda wish i just went with an 8.8 ford rear end, people still break r230 stubs.. we'll see how it goes.

Sforteen
05-07-2014, 01:24 PM
I've gotton some pm's asking what axles I used.

I used R32 GTR axles

The R32 axles fit well, i suspect they would fit with even the R200 setups that require the big axles as the r230 isnt much wider