dean's Small Block Chevy & T56 powered S14 Project

[drifter92]

Mods please delete thread

[drifter92]

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[FourtyKid]

Can't see pictures. Try imgur (http://www.imgur.com) instead.

[drifter92]

thanks pal

[sleepyS14se]

hey dean!! I FINALLY get to see your s14. kudos bro-ham

[drifter92]

I dont know why the pictures wont resize, i downsized them and they didnt change...
working on wiring now, Z32 drum e-brakes installed, power steering lines & clutch line in progress.

[blueshark123]

Holy redneck shit. Those headers wtf

[stroked_jz]

240 owners be like "custom exhaust bro"

[drifter92]

lol, the headers might not look like $1200 custom headers but they will work just fine

[I<3BEWBZ]

Dude. Please, please fix the exhaust.

[sleepyS14se]

it is just a mock up

[dudermagee]

Why not a newer LSX based motor?

[sleepyS14se]

i am guessing he isn't on the bandwagon

I am gonna do a 350 (383 stroker)

[theboy]

Why not just start with a camaro, regal, cutlas, monte, el camino, firebird, monza, vega, foxbody, fairlane, gto, galaxy, fairmont, etc. Swap would be very straight forward, theres gallons of parts for all of those cars to drop a 327 in them, but you wont be the "trendy different kid" like all the other "trendy different kids." Plus youll get into something that the sb 327 is good for, drag racing. I mean besides being a boat anchor or turning left. But thats just me being a realist so please go back to being "different" and actually spend some time on your headers so they work and dont rob your 327 of power its not going to have anyways when your side ways because its not getting any fuel cause your running a carb. Sorry to be that guy but somebody had to say what everyone else was thinking.

[sleepyS14se]

this shit is hilarious....

why is everyone so pissy about sbc in a s chassis....

there is a thread right now with a POS ford 5.0 in the build section in a s chassis and everyone is lovin' it..

you guys are pathetic and jealous.

[I<3BEWBZ]

from what I understand, you can run a marine carb and there will not be a fuel slosh/starvation issue.

I don't really have an issue with the swap, only the execution of the headers.

[drifter92]

Why not just start with a camaro, regal, cutlas, monte, el camino, firebird, monza, vega, foxbody, fairlane, gto, galaxy, fairmont, etc. Swap would be very straight forward, theres gallons of parts for all of those cars to drop a 327 in them, but you wont be the "trendy different kid" like all the other "trendy different kids." Plus youll get into something that the sb 327 is good for, drag racing. I mean besides being a boat anchor or turning left. But thats just me being a realist so please go back to being "different" and actually spend some time on your headers so they work and dont rob your 327 of power its not going to have anyways when your side ways because its not getting any fuel cause your running a carb. Sorry to be that guy but somebody had to say what everyone else was thinking.

You are simply uneducated and for that i am sorry.

First of all, I drift, i am into drifting, and i plan on drifting for the rest of my life. Not drag racing.
Second, i'm not building this car to be "trendy different kid", am small block chevy is simply the cheapest reliable way to make tons of torque normally aspirated.
Third, the boat anchor joke really makes you look even more stupid because if you think the weight difference of iron heads to aluminum heads is really going to be NOTICEABLE then you must be very inexperienced... Assuming that you are talking about the heads and not the iron block because there are LS based engines that come with iron blocks which are BETTER than the aluminum blocks if anything other than saving a few pounds is the goal...
Fourth, about the ignorant "turn left carburetor" joke, you should google "roadrace carburetor". Yes, there is a such thing as a "circle track carburetor" but there are also carb'd engines that road race, drift, turn right, etc...lol
If you buy the correct carb, there is not going to be any fuel "sloshing" to one side of the carburetor.

Please write something back that is not so ignorant after you get on google.

And about the headers guys, they are a temporary fix to get the car driveable for a drift event on the 22nd-23rd of March. I will only be making about 350hp so its not like the headers are going to be "too restrictive" for 175hp.

[drifter92]

Everyone who says fuel will slosh to one side and not make power please watch this, I took this video -V
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyeWVMNegn0

[Slims]

Sweet looking project. Zilvia is filled with a bunch of self proclaimed mechanic masters. Water on your back. Keep at it. There is actually a white s13 coupe with the same swap in virginia/NC, and imagine that, he drifts it as well.

[drifter92]

Sweet looking project. Zilvia is filled with a bunch of self proclaimed mechanic masters. Water on your back. Keep at it. There is actually a white s13 coupe with the same swap in virginia/NC, and imagine that, he drifts it as well.

Thanks, I was really hoping there would at least be a couple people on this site who aren't total fucktards lol

[sleepyS14se]

i can't wait til you get it running! i can only imagine how rewarding it must feel once it is done.

[mikey976]

i think if there was an adapter plate for z32 trans to small block readily it would cut the cost of the swap down tremendously.

keep at it, very interested to see how this progresses and some dyno numbers too

[2muchboost]

^^Someone has already done it in a Z32...let me see if I can dig it up. The cost was actually not too cost saving plus it used a flywheel spacer which I would hate to use.

In for more progress.

[mikey976]

yea ive read that that thread already. i know exactly what your referring to. how ever his was a one off. if it was refined and mass produced it may be a cheaper option. just spitballing. and dont wanna crap up OP's thread any further.

[sleepyS14se]

yo dean what did you do on the passenger side header?

[drifter92]

my friend helped me cut up some headers and made them clear the steering rack, brake master cylinder, and power steering lines.

[drifter92]

thanks guys, im glad to hear some people who are actually interested in the build not just assuming im using a 1950 2 barrel carb

[drifter92]

UPDATE:

I have the car turning over just fine with fuel pressure, but no spark yet, I'm still working to fix the issue, definitely a coil/distributor problem...

[sleepyS14se]

my friend helped me cut up some headers and made them clear the steering rack, brake master cylinder, and power steering lines.


i am referring to the Passenger side manifold...haven't seen it yet i was wondering if it fit without having to cut it up.

[drifter92]

IT RUNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBsLpaI_ruQ


i am referring to the Passenger side manifold...haven't seen it yet i was wondering if it fit without having to cut it up.

It just needs a dent in it to clear the frame rail

[theboy]

You are simply uneducated and for that i am sorry.

First of all, I drift, i am into drifting, and i plan on drifting for the rest of my life. Not drag racing.
Second, i'm not building this car to be "trendy different kid", am small block chevy is simply the cheapest reliable way to make tons of torque normally aspirated.
Third, the boat anchor joke really makes you look even more stupid because if you think the weight difference of iron heads to aluminum heads is really going to be NOTICEABLE then you must be very inexperienced... Assuming that you are talking about the heads and not the iron block because there are LS based engines that come with iron blocks which are BETTER than the aluminum blocks if anything other than saving a few pounds is the goal...
Fourth, about the ignorant "turn left carburetor" joke, you should google "roadrace carburetor". Yes, there is a such thing as a "circle track carburetor" but there are also carb'd engines that road race, drift, turn right, etc...lol
If you buy the correct carb, there is not going to be any fuel "sloshing" to one side of the carburetor.

Please write something back that is not so ignorant after you get on google.

And about the headers guys, they are a temporary fix to get the car driveable for a drift event on the 22nd-23rd of March. I will only be making about 350hp so its not like the headers are going to be "too restrictive" for 175hp.

Lets start from the beginning. You can "drift" all you want or do what ever with your car but calling your 327 reliable is a joke. Im all for sbc and anything General motors but the 327 as a whole is a joke. Its the poor mans half a$$ed 350. It is a boat anchor, i will stand by that since i can guarantee ive built more 287s, 307s, 302s, 327s, 350s, 400s, L46s, LT1s, LS's, big blocks etc than youll ever see in your life. Its what i do and i do it very well. So feel free to call me ignorant.

You are correct there are road race carbs, but you dont have that. You have a $400 650 thats not even a dominator. So again have fun with starvation and running lean. At least you wont starve the motor of oil with your pick up that im sure is mated with a pan with baffles.

You are also correct that they make a cast iron LS block. It only came in trucks for a reason. The only way its better than an aluminum block is it handles more boost better. But yet there are more aluminum boosted LS's in the world than the cast iron. I wonder why that is? Must be because the cast iron is better. As far as heads are concerned. Your running "ported" iron heads that im sure flow oh so nicely. And i never brought that up, but your welcome now.

Your comments are very flawed. And ill tell you from first hand that the boat anchor you strapped to the front of your car is going to effect how your car reacts (and im talking about it handling poorly). But im sure youll be pro soon enough now that you are V8. I was all for this build until i saw how botched everything was thrown together (not including those hideous headers).

When it blows up on you please let us know. I really wish this build had a chance but this is going to be another thread that ends in bashing a motor because someone rushed into without actually researching what they were doing.

[sleepyS14se]

Why are you people trolling the hell out of someone's build thread? This is a build thread. OP is gonna do what he pleases. Leave it alone and if you have nothing nice to say don't say anything at all...manners much?

[sleepyS14se]

IT RUNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBsLpaI_ruQ




It just needs a dent in it to clear the frame rail

WOOHOO. Can't wait to hear it run and go for a drive. Sounds like a beast lol!

Need better vid dean! Get on it lol

[drifter92]

Lets start from the beginning. You can "drift" all you want or do what ever with your car but calling your 327 reliable is a joke. Im all for sbc and anything General motors but the 327 as a whole is a joke. Its the poor mans half a$$ed 350. It is a boat anchor, i will stand by that since i can guarantee ive built more 287s, 307s, 302s, 327s, 350s, 400s, L46s, LT1s, LS's, big blocks etc than youll ever see in your life. Its what i do and i do it very well. So feel free to call me ignorant.

You are correct there are road race carbs, but you dont have that. You have a $400 650 thats not even a dominator. So again have fun with starvation and running lean. At least you wont starve the motor of oil with your pick up that im sure is mated with a pan with baffles.

You are also correct that they make a cast iron LS block. It only came in trucks for a reason. The only way its better than an aluminum block is it handles more boost better. But yet there are more aluminum boosted LS's in the world than the cast iron. I wonder why that is? Must be because the cast iron is better. As far as heads are concerned. Your running "ported" iron heads that im sure flow oh so nicely. And i never brought that up, but your welcome now.

Your comments are very flawed. And ill tell you from first hand that the boat anchor you strapped to the front of your car is going to effect how your car reacts (and im talking about it handling poorly). But im sure youll be pro soon enough now that you are V8. I was all for this build until i saw how botched everything was thrown together (not including those hideous headers).

When it blows up on you please let us know. I really wish this build had a chance but this is going to be another thread that ends in bashing a motor because someone rushed into without actually researching what they were doing.

Lol, you are comical. Go build a car man, you should probably start with a civic though.

[drifter92]

Okay, my friend and I have been working on the car 10-13 hours a day for 5 days now and its a couple small things away from being drivable!!!

I am taking it to have the cage and exhaust done tomorrow!

I will post pictures ASAP

[drifter92]

Off to my friends house to do the roll cage and exhaust!

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[sterlinge]

Awesome! I cant believe it moved from the driveway! Haha!

[drifter92]

drivers side headers all welded up, tomorrow i will be working on the passenger side, i thought they would clear but they aren't going to work at all, i will be cutting them up and making a manifold style set of headers for that side as well along with an exhaust system

[drifter92]

passenger side headers all tacked up, welding them tomorrow then working on downpipes and the rest of the exhaust, the drift event is on saturday!

I still need to set timing & tune the carburetor and get an alignment

[drifter92]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3aSAdVaavI&list=UUfDFgiOyFw-1sYk2Xr4g_Nw

[drifter92]

I drove the car down the street for the first time today, front brake rotors were rubbing so im getting that fixed, and my transmission isnt going into reverse correctly, but it drives!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lgjHo-Kki0&feature=youtu.be

[drifter92]

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[drifter92]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VLc5Q7K3gM&feature=youtu.be

[sohc slide]

Hey dean. I am doin the 327 sbc swap in my 1989 s13 as well. I was curious, what year camaro did you take the t56 from. I need to find one so I can start my build thread. Haha.

[drifter92]

93-97 Camaro has the LT1 T-56, which is the only T56 you can use on a smallblock that i know of, I have a Fidanza conversion aluminum flywheel for the swap, with an OEM 93-97 Camaro Competition Clutch Stage 5 with an OEM pull style clutch

Let me know if you have any questions!

ANOTHER RUNNING VIDEO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VLc5Q7K3gM

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[JZ78]

Sounds awesome!


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[drifter92]

Today I cut out the incorrectly built roll bar I had in the s14 and i will be taking the car to Sparky's Speed Shop in Taylor, Tx for a legit cage adhering to the Formula Drift Rulebook for Lone Star Drift Pro-Am. The cage will be built to maintain full interior including front door panels and as much of a back seat as i can have. I will post pictures asap.

Also I notched my Honda Accord rear lip to fit snug up against my rear mudflaps so i should have that installed soon, it will look great for $15 instead of a $300 Kouki rear bumper or fiberglass junk. I also did a little work on my sheet metal + Autometer gauge cluster for the car... Stay tuned!

[drifter92]

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[sohc slide]

Awesome man. Thanks for the update. Hey another question. How and what did you use to run the power steering pressure line that goes to the rack and pinion?

[drifter92]

i made both of my power steering hoses from scratch, custom machined adapter fittings on the rack feed & return to -6AN, I used Parker 206-6 hose for the lines, i ran them both out into the wheel well under the frame rail and along the frame rail to my power steering cooler mounted under the drivers side blinker light, then a rubber hose from the cooler to the reservoir on my Saginaw power steering pump, i can take a video to show you if you want, just let me know!

[WreckedS14]

I just finished getting my 400 block together other than the oil pan. How much ground clearance do you have with that pan? Obviously height of the car is a factor. I guess I should've asked how much lower it hangs than the subframe.

[drifter92]

My McKinney engine mounts with the McKinney oil pan had my oil pan sitting on my power steering rack.... Shitty stuff man
I had to space my engine up to clear the rack, after it cleared the rack, my oil pan sits flush with my subframe, or maybe 1/8" higher than the subframe at most. Want pictures?

[WreckedS14]

I would love to see some pictures if it isn't an inconvenience! I was considering the mounts but I've seen and heard a lot of bad things about them...

[drifter92]

Awesome man. Thanks for the update. Hey another question. How and what did you use to run the power steering pressure line that goes to the rack and pinion?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srT7UbHl3r4

[WreckedS14]

I could see the oil pan in the video. So what exactly did you use to raise the engine up just enough to clear the subframe?

[drifter92]

fender washers, 3/8" center hole with about a 2.5" outside diameter, they matched my engine mount bushings pretty well.

[drifter92]

http://youtu.be/u2g-OtP31Zs

[drifter92]

Cage almost finished up by Josh McGuire at Sparky's Speed Shop, Taylor, Tx

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[drifter92]

UPDATE

I am still working out a few small issues but the car does run and drive, and it can spin the tires with like 15% throttle lol Here's a gentle launch I did to see what would happen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JovaNFVqI0

[drifter92]

this weekend I will be getting the fuel pressure regulator installed and getting the carb tuned and hopefully figure out if my overheating issue is still there

[drifter92]

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[drifter92]

Lame video but it drives at least. This is with the OLD shitty heads not tuned well, making super LOW POWER
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[drifter92]

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l99/Deanith/1456805_742431435785412_1148249772_n_zps12cf3045.j pg (http://s94.photobucket.com/user/Deanith/media/1456805_742431435785412_1148249772_n_zps12cf3045.j pg.html)

Recently changed the heads out for some camel hump heads with higher compression, larger valves, fresh valve job, new valve seals, pushrod guide plates, and threaded rocker arm studs.

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l99/Deanith/10153692_978880305473856_441367535803289105_n_zps1 2157964.jpg (http://s94.photobucket.com/user/Deanith/media/10153692_978880305473856_441367535803289105_n_zps1 2157964.jpg.html)

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[drifter92]

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[LaMaR-]

i love the fact that your still running a can on the rear lol sounds really good though. Great job

[Yann.]

THE SWAP:
Chevy 331 Cubic Inch V8 aka 327 bored .030" over carbureted
GM T56 Six Speed Transmission

McKinney Motorsports Mounts & Oil Pan (Not good quality parts IMO)
1958 Small Block Chevy 350 Block (5.7L)
Bored +.030 Over (331CID 5.4L)


350 started in 1967, so 1958 350cid doesnt exist.

327 started in 1962 so it doesnt work too.

If your block is from 1958 you have a 283 who doesnt have the same bore as 327's and 350's.

[drifter92]

350 started in 1967, so 1958 350cid doesnt exist.

327 started in 1962 so it doesnt work too.

If your block is from 1958 you have a 283 who doesnt have the same bore as 327's and 350's.

I dont know the exact year, but its a 327 bored .030 over making it a 5.4L 331CID. The block casting number shows its a 350 block

I have measured the bore with a caliper and its perfectly 4.030"

[drifter92]

I will be working on the car all weekend, I will post videos and updates