usdm Kouki jdm converted vs zenki kouki jdm converted

[crewchief05]

UPDATE: All s14 US chassis are all the same thing whether converted in any fashion or not. The only difference are the interchangeable parts that are on each. However, according to numbers posted in this thread (assuming they are correct from "1999" provided by fliprayzin240sx) the later models came in fewer number and majority automatics. So it really doesn't matter what year or model you go with. you can convert or mod it no matter how u choose and it is the same thing (exterior). Making the whole "its a real kouki hype" irrelevant imo. As long as it looks clean and done right is all that matters. Thanks for the comments that actually pertained to the post.

[crewchief05]

Before any says anything ill add the only actual difference would be if one had a sun roof or not.

[sleepyS14se]

This thread is retarded

[crewchief05]

so y post in it if u don't like it? u know wat don't respond. would rather want opinions than negative comments.

[dudermagee]

This thread is retarded

This.

Prepared to get flamed OP

[crewchief05]

i really don't understand why. When people sell their cars (not me) they always like to mention its a "official Kouki" even though its literally converted like any other zenki or usdm s14. To me its retarded that people actually buy into that hype.

[racepar1]

It doesn't matter, it's ONLY a 240sx. People *think* that there is something special about a "kouki" S14. I don't, "zenki" S14's look 10000000000x better anyways. Nothing like attempting to compliment the round S14 rear end with angular, NOT round headlights. All that really matters is how nice the car is and how well it has been repaired, maintained, and modified. FUCK MILEAGE as well. These are old ass cars, NONE of them are low mileage.

Seriously, what is this thread even about? Stupid thread is stupid...

:lockd:

[crewchief05]

ok ill agree now that i think about it its a lil on the lame side lol. but i am just getting sick of people saying their usdm kouki jdm converted is better than a zenki jdm kouki converted. thats all. my bad for the post lol was just venting out some annoyance.

[HeyGirlHeyyy]

No one really gives a fart. They're crappy old cars either way.

[ILoveJDM]

so y post in it if u don't like it? u know wat don't respond. would rather want opinions than negative comments.

You are 27 years old. Stop typing like you're 12.

[crewchief05]

wow nice i just got told…lol

[brndck]

Authentic fake converted original s14 chuki with aftermarket original knockoff conversion are is them best.

[pancakes562]

It doesn't matter, it's ONLY a 240sx. People *think* that there is something special about a "kouki" S14. I don't, "zenki" S14's look 10000000000x better anyways. Nothing like attempting to compliment the round S14 rear end with angular, NOT round headlights. All that really matters is how nice the car is and how well it has been repaired, maintained, and modified. FUCK MILEAGE as well. These are old ass cars, NONE of them are low mileage.

Seriously, what is this thread even about? Stupid thread is stupid...

:lockd:

Couldn't agree more. I'm rocking a Zenki and happy with it. Only thing I don't like is that USDM Zenki grills are butt ugly, they don't have projectors and they often get yellow cus of where I live. Other than that I love the Zenki.

[Reece]

This thread is stupid.

Most Zenki-Kouki conversions look like ass. I'd never buy one.

[crewchief05]

Reece explain…wats the difference between the two if they are both jdm converted. please elaborate.

[Chaluska]

Authentic fake converted original s14 chuki with aftermarket original knockoff conversion are is them best.

actually, Authentic canadian Koukis converted to JDM zenki's with OE knockoff body parts, converted to aftermarket knockoff USDM fenders and widebody that use Zenki headlights with kouki lenses are the best.

[fliprayzin240sx]

The largest appeal of real Kouki S14s vs Zenki converts is that rarity of them. There simply wasnt that many S14 koukis sold and more than half of them were autos. So between the rarity and the fact that they're a couple of years newer...those are the appeal of Kouki S14s.

Ive had a 97 Kouki s14 and my current car is a 95 Kouki convert...Hate my zenki for one and only one thing...stupid blue interior. Koukis only had black for interior.

[VegasDrifterS13]

actually, Authentic canadian Koukis converted to JDM zenki's with OE knockoff body parts, converted to aftermarket knockoff USDM fenders and widebody that use Zenki headlights with kouki lenses are the best.

Wtf.... Lmao^^^

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[VegasDrifterS13]

The largest appeal of real Kouki S14s vs Zenki converts is that rarity of them. There simply wasnt that many S14 koukis sold and more than half of them were autos. So between the rarity and the fact that they're a couple of years newer...those are the appeal of Kouki S14s.

Ive had a 97 Kouki s14 and my current car is a 95 Kouki convert...Hate my zenki for one and only one thing...stupid blue interior. Koukis only had black for interior.

Didnt know that blue interior was ever made.... Can you post a pic or 2?

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[babyjesus]

The largest appeal of real Kouki S14s vs Zenki converts is that rarity of them. There simply wasnt that many S14 koukis sold and more than half of them were autos. So between the rarity and the fact that they're a couple of years newer...those are the appeal of Kouki S14s.


I think this sums up the value part best. Personally I've always liked the look of zenkis more. I've owned a few and loved them. I own a kouki now (got a stupid deal on it) and didn't care much about the front end, but eventually grew to love it. I should say however, I get a kick when someone asks "is that a real kouki?" and believe me, they almost always ask.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Didnt know that blue interior was ever made.... Can you post a pic or 2?

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I think this sums up the value part best. Personally I've always liked the look of zenkis more. I've owned a few and loved them. I own a kouki now (got a stupid deal on it) and didn't care much about the front end, but eventually grew to love it. I should say however, I get a kick when someone asks "is that a real kouki?" and believe me, they almost always ask.

But Zenkis look like a 2 door Camry ...:rofl:

[crewchief05]

Koukis are rarer than zenkis lol where are u getting those manufacturer numbers from? I doubt that to be true

[fliprayzin240sx]

Koukis are rarer than zenkis lol where are u getting those manufacturer numbers from? I doubt that to be true

Huh? What are you talking about? Its a known fact that there were more 95 S14s sold than 96-98 S14s sold in the states. Almost 60% of 97-98 Koukis sold were autos. Oh wait, just noticed your join date...:duh:

[dudermagee]

Koukis are rarer than zenkis lol where are u getting those manufacturer numbers from? I doubt that to be true

You are showing your ignorance with each and every post.

240sx production numbers (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=240sx+production+numbers)

[crewchief05]

Wheres the proof? Not the word of mouth. The auto thing i can maybe see. But less made hhhmmm. I have to see proof. And yes i am new to the nissan world i will admit. But not new to car builds in general.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Shit...its all over the interweb. We even had somebody in here a few years back manage to pull the DMV database to see how many are still registered in the states.

Here's your damn numbers:


1989 - 68118
1990 - 60582
1991 - 34534
1992 - 27033
1993 - 21471
1994 - 1391
1995 - 25114
1996 - 7334
1997 - 3655
1998 - 2178

Again, 97/98, almost 60% of that 5800 were autos. Wanna still argue? Wanna know why 96 was a bad year for Nissan? Year they almost went bankrupt and you can blame Honda for selling a bazillion civics and intergras.

[crewchief05]

And how is it ignorance? I am asking for proof. And why be negative? Takes too much energy. Im a s14 noob tryna figure out the hype behind a true kouki conversion vs a zenki jdm conversion. So far there is really no evident difference other than the 97/98s were sold more or less as an auto and possibly less. Other than that they are exactly the same.

[Jamaica]

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But Zenkis look like a 2 door Camry ...:rofl:

I hated mine too. Painted it black within the first month when i bought it 7 years ago.

[fliprayzin240sx]

And how is it ignorance? I am asking for proof. And why be negative? Takes too much energy. Im a s14 noob tryna figure out the hype behind a true kouki conversion vs a zenki jdm conversion. So far there is really no evident difference other than the 97/98s were sold more or less as an auto and possibly less. Other than that they are exactly the same.

What the hell does a kouki conversion and a zenki JDM conversion even mean? Those could mean anything and everything since USDM S14s didnt have the same front end as JDM S14s, both Zenkis and Koukis.

Kouki conversion = zenki converted to kouki?
zenki jdm conversion = usdm 240sx with zenki silvia headlights and navan bumper?

What more proof do you need? We just posted up sales numbers thats been floating around online since 1999. Those numbers are how many of these cars sold. So now imagine atleast half of those are now crushed or missiles...there's not a whole lot left, simple as that.

[crewchief05]

I think u only read half my last post. I said there were less based off the numbers. And it still stands they are all the same chassis all with interchangable parts. Making it no difference whether converted or not. So now that we cleared up everything that can be the end. Thanks for the numbers again.

[joshchewuhh]

im so sick of new members making retarded ass threads...

lock this shit

[sleepyS14se]

this thread is retarded :lockd:

[VegasDrifterS13]

ok ill agree now that i think about it its a lil on the lame side lol. but i am just getting sick of people saying their usdm kouki jdm converted is better than a zenki jdm kouki converted. thats all. my bad for the post lol was just venting out some annoyance.

Lol. This reminds me of "my babys daddys uncles adopted sisters great grandmas daughters aunties friend said...." LMAO. drive your 240, build your 240, and if all you can do is talk shit, then please SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT 240'S!!!!!!!!

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[VegasDrifterS13]

this thread is retarded :lockd:

This^^^





im so sick of new members making retarded ass threads...

lock this shit

And THIS^^^^

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[fliprayzin240sx]

I think u only read half my last post. I said there were less based off the numbers. And it still stands they are all the same chassis all with interchangable parts. Making it no difference whether converted or not. So now that we cleared up everything that can be the end. Thanks for the numbers again.


But thats the thing, there is a difference to people. It may not be a big deal to you but it is to others. Some folks what a newer body and want something that wasnt hacked together. Converting to a zenki into a kouki is great but people have a tendency to cut corners and say its good enough. To some folks, they'd rather buy a legit kouki instead of conversions because they dont know what kind of mickey mouse shit the prior owner did.

Me? I dont give a fuck, an S14 is an S14. Not a fan of the Zenki front end so I went JDM Kouki front end. JDM zenki and kouki are different compared to the US versions. JDM Zenkis have 2 different bumpers (regular and Navan), and the kouki bumper is cleaner than the US spec bumper. Head lights are diffent since JDM lightshigh beam and low beam are independently adjustable, unlike the US version.

[Fuego]

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^ Is all I hear in my head when I read OP's posts.

[chato de shamrock]

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^ Is all I hear in my head when I read OP's posts.

:bowrofl: best final comment before a thread gets locked.

[drscooper]

G7RgN9ijwE4

^ Is all I hear in my head when I read OP's posts.

done OP is stupid and should be banned :2c:

[crewchief05]

man... for such a retarded thread u are all reading it and responding. whether its good or bad. u still are wanting to waste ur time responding. thats retarded! this thread was resolved days ago yet your still being dumb and posting. SMH Just for S&Gs how many of u posting crazy comments have actually created a post? have ratings ? or contributed to the community other than your failure comments. judging off the ones in here almost 90% are all trolls just lurking waiting to post some random comment cause their project/dd or life sucks. lol (drscooper u r prob the worst of them all. no post started, no stats, not trader rating, but still insist on posting bad remarks= fail). and its kind of creepy that you actually searched for my age no matter what the intentions were. Horrible.

[fliprayzin240sx]

man... for such a retarded thread u are all reading it and responding. whether its good or bad. u still are wanting to waste ur time responding. thats retarded! this thread was resolved days ago yet your still being dumb and posting. SMH Just for S&Gs how many of u posting crazy comments have actually created a post? have ratings ? or contributed to the community other than your failure comments. judging off the ones in here almost 90% are all trolls just lurking waiting to post some random comment cause their project/dd or life sucks. lol (drscooper u r prob the worst of them all. no post started, no stats, not trader rating, but still insist on posting bad remarks= fail). and its kind of creepy that you actually searched for my age no matter what the intentions were. Horrible.

Umm...we all saw your age on the left side before you decided to hide it. For a 27 yr old, you sure do type like you never graduated high school. :rofl:

[crewchief05]

and still going lol…thanks for your comments.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Good job editing "our" comments...

[silviaks2nr]

This has to be garagemaks14 and orangevirus's lovechild.

[crewchief05]

still going...

[fliprayzin240sx]

Yup, still going....

Why do you persist on still talking crap? The thread is over. Whether it was dumb or not. Can you please stop? The harassing is pretty annoying. Maybe my age makes it annoying since I don't feel like taking crap 24/7. I could easily go on about your age, job, status in life, car, etc. But why? This little kid arguing by everyone including myself is just that…childish. Trust me if I could delete the thread I would of but the fact is I can't. So Please stop bugging me.

Wow, really letting somebody online get under your skin? You dont have to post up in there, you could just ignore it and stop bumping it to the top. Im not bugging you, I'm not the one sending somebody a direct message telling them how butt hurt I am.

[crewchief05]

nice…either way still got my responses for my question. And you are right. I don't know why I am letting this get under my skin and stooping down to this level. continue on…..

[feito]

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[snafupossum]

I think u only read half my last post. I said there were less based off the numbers. And it still stands they are all the same chassis all with interchangable parts. Making it no difference whether converted or not. So now that we cleared up everything that can be the end. Thanks for the numbers again.

most of the connectors on the wiring harnesses are different, gauge clusters are not interchangeable without rewiring, core supports have differences plus many more things. Going by this train of thought you have going, r33 skyline is the same thing as a s14 because parts are interchangable? :2c: