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NJ3ndri
12-13-2013, 06:55 PM
Just looking o start a thread with pics of this setup so everyone can get an idea (like myself)
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w96/ajimmyjammin/fuel1.jpg

blueshark123
12-16-2013, 06:27 AM
You know you want that powerhouseracing fuel hanger setup.

brndck
12-16-2013, 06:39 AM
So what are the advantages of having two pumps in tank compared to one pump feeding a surge tank and then a second pump between the surge tank and the engine?

blueshark123
12-16-2013, 07:03 AM
So what are the advantages of having two pumps in tank compared to one pump feeding a surge tank and then a second pump between the surge tank and the engine?

It all depends on what the car is built for if your going high hp you will need more psi then just one pump can provide. In a surge tank setup like you mention you will be preventing fuel starvation but psi pressure will be lower Because its almost like having 1 pump feeding into fuel rail. The op setup wants 2 pumps going directly to fuel rail. a surge tank is ideal if you are drifting and road racing where u will be taking turns and can starve motor. Im sure someone can elaborate more on this.

NJ3ndri
12-17-2013, 08:02 AM
I called powerhouse and told me its discontinued. -__-. I need a -10 outlet anyway .

brndck
12-17-2013, 09:30 AM
Yes but what application would you really need that high of fuel pressure for? Are you building a 3000hp engine?

silnv
12-17-2013, 09:45 AM
This is for a S14 dual in-tank set up. I bought this from MVP Motorsports quite a while back and have not installed it yet. Outside of purchasing the kit, I haven't determined how I want to run everything though.

It is a billet fuel hat that is tapped for AN fittings and wiring for two pumps. It is a very nice set up.

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb319/mpwrd3/240sx/fuel.jpg (http://s204.photobucket.com/user/mpwrd3/media/240sx/fuel.jpg.html)

silnv
12-17-2013, 09:47 AM
Yes but what application would you really need that high of fuel pressure for? Are you building a 3000hp engine?

I am trying to do an over kill fuel system because I want to run E85 on a high boost application. I do not want the fuel pressure dropping off in high boost.

NJ3ndri
12-17-2013, 09:54 AM
@silnv do you have a link to where you bought it?
I'm running a 2jzgte on pump and e85. Fuel pressure would be from 40-80 dual 044 are good for 1300hp

silnv
12-17-2013, 10:00 AM
@silnv do you have a link to where you bought it?
I'm running a 2jzgte on pump and e85. Fuel pressure would be from 40-80 dual 044 are good for 1300hp

Sure, here ya go.

I only ordered certain pieces of the kit listed, because I already had some of the stuff needed.

http://zilvia.net/f/engine/447027-mvp-motorsports-fuel-systems-s14-w-sr20det-official-preorder.html

Punished
12-17-2013, 10:04 AM
I have 2 pumps, 1 walbro in tank and 1 walbro inline pump two thirds down the line before hitting my AEM filter. Motor is built for 450hp, but I'm only running 350.

Drift_FX
12-17-2013, 10:16 AM
i used a suction pump to feed my surge tank then a A100 to feed the motor from the surge tank... (e85, 800hp)

turbo2nr
12-17-2013, 10:23 AM
http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff421/turbo2nr1/20130917_204602_zps8e9f5f85.jpg

255 in tank to surge tank, to dual 044, flex fuel sensor in return. Good for over 1000whp

silnv
12-17-2013, 10:26 AM
255 in tank to surge tank, to dual 044, flex fuel sensor in return. Good for over 1000whp

Now that is a neat set up!

NJ3ndri
12-17-2013, 10:52 AM
Yea deff interesting. Might go that route. What motor/hp are you currently on

turbo2nr
12-17-2013, 11:07 AM
built ka24, gtx35r/ full race main. ect ect id2000 aem v2. right now the car is around 380whp at 15psi on pump. ill turn it up to 30psi soon on e85 looking to make around 650whp.

RZRSHARP_240SX
12-17-2013, 01:15 PM
this is my duel setup. with surge tank its more like 3 pump setup. good for 1500hp

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s267/RZRSHARP_SVX/photo_zps38c8acb0.jpg (http://s154.photobucket.com/user/RZRSHARP_SVX/media/photo_zps38c8acb0.jpg.html)

PoorMans180SX
12-17-2013, 01:48 PM
Radium parts are sooooo cooool, haha.

I can definitely see the attraction of a dual pump setup, it's quite a bit cheaper than a surge tank setup and our cars aren't too bad about fuel starvation if running a stock tank.

A surge tank setup is definitely as good as it gets though.

NJ3ndri
12-17-2013, 06:21 PM
It all depends on what the car is built for if your going high hp you will need more psi then just one pump can provide. In a surge tank setup like you mention you will be preventing fuel starvation but psi pressure will be lower Because its almost like having 1 pump feeding into fuel rail. The op setup wants 2 pumps going directly to fuel rail. a surge tank is ideal if you are drifting and road racing where u will be taking turns and can starve motor. Im sure someone can elaborate more on this.

yea none of that drifting going on here lol. Highway rape and drag

NJ3ndri
12-17-2013, 06:35 PM
built ka24, gtx35r/ full race main. ect ect id2000 aem v2. right now the car is around 380whp at 15psi on pump. ill turn it up to 30psi soon on e85 looking to make around 650whp.

Nice I was building a 900hp+ Ka then decided to get a 2J. lol

NJ3ndri
12-18-2013, 09:43 AM
Messaged mvp and they have a few left of the powerhouse hangers . Only downside is I need to convert the -8 feed to -10. Not a fan of using an adapter. The flow hole is still the same

NJ3ndri
12-19-2013, 07:57 PM
This is for a S14 dual in-tank set up. I bought this from MVP Motorsports quite a while back and have not installed it yet. Outside of purchasing the kit, I haven't determined how I want to run everything though.

It is a billet fuel hat that is tapped for AN fittings and wiring for two pumps. It is a very nice set up.

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb319/mpwrd3/240sx/fuel.jpg (http://s204.photobucket.com/user/mpwrd3/media/240sx/fuel.jpg.html)

now that i think about it doesnt that kit not have a fuel level sender? hows your fuel level gauge going to work?

NJ3ndri
12-19-2013, 08:00 PM
http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff421/turbo2nr1/20130917_204602_zps8e9f5f85.jpg

255 in tank to surge tank, to dual 044, flex fuel sensor in return. Good for over 1000whp

Feed to the surge tank is top or side?. looks like side if i remember right

NJ3ndri
12-19-2013, 08:16 PM
I think this one will do. simple and easy install.

Ill be using my intank 255 to feed it.

http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server2200/ed681/products/638/images/1790/dual_044_surge_tank_002__16792.1378519741.1280.128 0.jpg

blueshark123
12-19-2013, 09:27 PM
I like that setup how much is it?

NJ3ndri
12-20-2013, 07:28 AM
I like that setup how much is it?

Which one . The one I posted a link to? 200 for the tank. No pumps included. Let me know if you're gettimg one. I might as well get one too

NJ3ndri
12-20-2013, 08:09 AM
Email I got for the small one I just posted.
The log on the top for the out is a removable fitting. We can provide you a -10 for the out. No problem.This tank design for us just makes the most sense. Some of these surge tank setups on ebay/market just take up so much space. We were not looking to take up the whole trunk just for the fuel system and honestly wanted the ability to mount it almost anywhere. As you can see from the images some mount it in the engine bay. The only setup consideration you have to make is the tank needs to be mounted sitting up so the outlet of the pumps are facing up. This keeps the pumps running cooler and insures enough fuel as they are completely submerged.The walbro you have in the tank is perfect. It is actually what we recommend you run to keep up with the 044 pumps and create a positive pressure inside the tank. Additionally if you looking to cut some cost from this tank we offer it for less on our website - this is the same with most of our products as we do not have to pay ebay. Just make sure your address is confirmed in paypal and your good to go. - just another option for you.I hope this helps.Let me know if you have any more questions.ThanksJBJBtuned.com- jbtunedClick "respond" to reply through Messages, or go to your email to reply

silnv
12-21-2013, 01:31 PM
now that i think about it doesnt that kit not have a fuel level sender? hows your fuel level gauge going to work?

The S14 pump assembly is different than the s13, I will use the existing fuel level sender.

codyace
12-21-2013, 01:34 PM
I can definitely see the attraction of a dual pump setup, it's quite a bit cheaper than a surge tank setup and our cars aren't too bad about fuel starvation if running a stock tank.


I'd beg to differe with the S14's....anything near 1/3 tank on them and you'll run out on long fast sweepers (Watkins Glen, NJMP for me especially)



Radium parts are sooooo cooool, haha.

I agree :D

NJ3ndri
12-21-2013, 02:38 PM
Price is around the same for the dual pump hanger from powerhouse and the dual pp surge tank I posted.
Surge tank setup would probably be more ideal

NJ3ndri
01-04-2014, 12:35 PM
I bough the one RZRSHARP_240SX posted. Radium dual pump surge tank setup