New S13.5,S14.5 Masa Style Vented Fenders NEW!

[umsports]

Hey Zilvia,

I am doing nothing more than passing along the word from GTP I got today. They are finally after 6 months of hearing about it going to be releasing their new Masa Style Vented S15 conversion fenders.

They have them available for the S13 and S14.

The quality is really excellent. GTP is really improving. I know that their reputation has been smeared because of their previous history. But their new product line, which debued at SEMA, shows they are on the right track.

The fenders are actually 5 layered fiberglass copied from a pair of JDM Masa Fenders.

The copy is amazing, during our test fit everything bolted up as they said. We simply drilled the holes, and the rest fell into place. It's the first S15 conversion fenders outside of authentic Masa and West Yokohama that was a true bolt-on. We are running their carbon fiber version on our demo car and I'm very pleased with the fitment.

GTP is listing it at $399/pair, with real JDM Masa fenders selling at around $700/pair here in the states.

Here's the spy photos I got ahold of. They will be released to the public on Tuesday, June 1.


Chris
Underground Motorsports

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[FinalDrive]

I ordered these from Chris at Underground Motorsports about a week ago. I'll be sure and post about the fitment and quality when I get them. The pictures look top notch!

Jon

[TheTimanator]

I don't get it.
If they are gonna make fenders why copy another compaines design? Why not make there own and be original instead of ripping someone else's design? I mean, even if they designed them themselves and produced them they wouldn't cost much more would they? And then GTP would have it's own fenders instead of rippoffs.....

I'm not knocking the fenders or people that buy them. It's definately a good thing to have inexspensive high qualtiy aftermarket parts. ( but typically inexspensive=low quality). Especially with bodykits cuz there easyily damaged. I'd probably buy them too if I was looking to do a conversion b/c price, availabilty, and fitment (assuming it's good). But I'd much rather buy an original design (even if it's an original design by GTP) than a copy assuming they weren't ugly :x:

PS- why is everyone still using fiberglass? I'd much rather have a urethane kit....

[exitspeed]

I don't get it.
If they are gonna make fenders why copy another compaines design? Why not make there own and be original instead of ripping someone else's design? I mean, even if they designed them themselves and produced them they wouldn't cost much more would they? And then GTP would have it's own fenders instead of rippoffs.....

I'm not knocking the fenders or people that buy them. It's definately a good thing to have inexspensive high qualtiy aftermarket parts. ( but typically inexspensive=low quality). Especially with bodykits cuz there easyily damaged. I'd probably buy them too if I was looking to do a conversion b/c price, availabilty, and fitment (assuming it's good). But I'd much rather buy an original design (even if it's an original design by GTP) than a copy assuming they weren't ugly :x:

PS- why is everyone still using fiberglass? I'd much rather have a urethane kit....


I think because there REALLY nice looking fenders. There aggressive but clean looking. I hate the look of the Z3 and other knock off BMW fenders. Another reason is that Mesa obviously has it right. Thats the best choise from what everyone says so, why not make a lesser expensive version. But then again you get what you pay for.

my .02

[mike13]

the reason they dont make their own design is probably because its hard as hell and expensive to do (R+D) and they dont have or want to spend the time and resources to do it right.

[FRpilot]

who's going to be the guinea pig for these fenders? lol

[hurleyboi514]

Here's the spy photos I got ahold of. They will be released to the public on Tuesday, June 1.



haha, spy photo's.... i wanna be a spy... :)

[Yoshi]

Hmm.... "all you have to do is drill holes", one of the reasons masas are good is cuz they're PRE-DRILLED, hence "bolt-on".

If you have to drill holes, that's come customization, which means margin for error, which means fitment will vary... if they're direct copies of the masas, why not pre-drill the holes too? (this also means there is no quality control as far as fitment is concerned... just on the prototype) This was a big part of why the original GTP conversion fenders sucked... I'm not knocking them for sure, as I've not seen them myself yet, but it seems like they're repeating key mistakes :/ :wtf:

Who will step up to test these? If I get discount I'll buy them now. :hsdance:
Fenders is all I still need for my conversion.

[umsports]

We are an importer of Masa. Actually, one of three here in the States. Masa does have predrilled holes, but on about 75% of the pairs they don't line up. We almost always have to redrill the holes.

[Yoshi]

And if you think the S15 conversion is a bolt-on, then I would like to buy where you are buying. We sell about 10-15 kits/month and everyone of them requires some fabrication.

I was talking about JUST the fenders, was there ever mention of anything else? Don't get all bent out of shape about it. I'm jsut talking of what I know people on here have experienced. Those with Masa fenders have all said it was a basically bolt-on affair.

Of course there's fab work to be done as far as the entire conversion is concerned, it'd be just ignorant to assume anything else, but thanks for trying to make me look like an ass with the condescending attitude, that's very big of you, very professional too. I was merely reiterating the hands-on experiences of other people on this board.

edit: bottom line; someone prove me wrong. If they're as good as you're touting, I'll gladly admit fault... hell I'd go so far as to buy them myself since it'd be so much cheaper, but you mentioned the main problem in your original post. The original fenders were not well made. Everyone who bought them contributed to publcizing so, and in the process, GTP got a bad rep, whether it was justified or not. It's always hard for a business to regain public composure after such a mistake, word of mouth spreads like wildfire on zilvia and the internet as a whole. Until someone (someone unbiased), proves otherwise, people will always bash GTP, that's just the way it is.

[SilviaDriver]

underground works aside with GTP...of course they wont say their new lineup fits like shit also. thats wat they said bout the first wave of fenders. and when a new line comes out..of course they will admit the old one sucks compared to the new ones.

how will u get sales if u admit ur new line fits like shit?

EVERYTHING underground sells from GTP they say fits like a glove. EVERYTHING.

and those test fitment pics...those are so funny. of COURSE they will make the products fit the best..look the best..and go out and say "look! these were juss put on! no mods and look how great they look!" can u trust a company saying that after all those sells of bad products???

even if SO..if it was just put on and fits quite well...its the first one out of the mold!! first couple always fit good..after that..it will fit like shit. but some companies..jdm companies..continue to make them over and over again..yet fit very well.

personally to me Yoshi....it looks like another blue class POS. but this stime it has vents. of course the first pair comes out very well..and thats the one they will advertise..later down the line im sure they will be shitty..yet they will still have the first pair pics advertised. cuz it looked good in the beginning. hell the s15 conversion fenders on the first wave didnt have it own pics..had pics of a real s15 fender. funny.


GTP: step up and be a man already. quit knockin off other peoples designs and come up with something on ur own. hell even APC has their own lineup!!! Drift Works for APC...and GTP? C-Wings? sounds like a C-West knockoff name too.

[old_s13]

will they bolt on to my camry?

[umsports]

Yoshi, I'm sorry about the condescending comment. It's not directed at you. I just answer these questions all day long everyday, all day at the shop. We get people who think that Masa or West Yokohama means "no work required." I didn't mean to clown on you, I just get tired of making the same posts on thread after thread. Please forgive me if I offended you, it wasn't my intention....

SilviaDriver, you and I go back along ways when it comes to our GTP dispute. Look, I agree that they are far from flawless as a company. But if you would give their new product line a chance and actually test some of their product yourself, maybe you wouldn't be so against anything they produce.

And man, I tell you, I hate the fact that they knocked off my Masa fenders. But, that's what happens in business. Every company that is a smaller player always copies the industry leader. When people mention the fact that GTP and VIS knock off JDM companies, I always find it funny. I am more than happy to show you JDM companies who knock off other JDM companies.

Your comment "underground works aside with GTP"

I also work aside with the other 100+ brands we carry at the shop. We are direct with BN Sports, Vertex USA, Masa, and several other companies. I am not trying to push one over another.

I simply was wanting to make known a new product that I felt was worth sharing. While I would love to sell you a $700/pair of fenders, I know that the 16 year old flipping burgers at McDonalds probably can't afford it. I love working on and selling parts for the 240SX's and have made it my career. I would love to see everyone out there have a JDM kit, but unfortunately it's not realistic. So instead of having that kid go buy another fender that doesn't remotely fit, I wanted to make a post about an option that we have tried, tested and approve of.

If I offended anyone, my apologies....

[SilviaDriver]

I just get tired of making the same posts on thread after thread.


u are posting bout s15 conversion fenders...be prepared to answer them over and over again.


SilviaDriver, you and I go back along ways when it comes to our GTP dispute.


u damn right. and it will continue.


Look, I agree that they are far from flawless as a company. But if you would give their new product line a chance and actually test some of their product yourself, maybe you wouldn't be so against anything they produce.


the thing is...i am not one of those many few that go by peoples experience and speak as if its my own. i HAVE worked with GTP crap before. being that i DID NOT BUY it...but a friend of mine have..and i was the one that had to put his kit on for him. and my experience? it was crap. its not only the fact that i hate the low quality carp they sell..but 100% of wat they make is copied from another company.

i mean c'mon! Vader, B-Road, CW, BMX...wth is that!? they have the R&D and time to put into copying other peoples designs..how but putting those R&D people to work and come up with their own line. be like APC or something and team up with somebody. APC is teamed up with Team Orange to come out with Drift Works. grant that APC sucks donkey balls..at least they have their own line up of stuff now unlike GTP.

i wonder how they sleep at night selling kits that fit like shit to poeple. if i was a seller i would want to sell the best for my customers so they come back. its the newbies that come to GTP buy their shit dont know fitsl ike crap and leave and buy else where. i never hear of somebody going

"i bought from GTP Blue Class, it was Great, i want to buy more"

its more like

"i bought from GTP Blue Class becuz im stupid and a newbie. their shit fits like crap and i finaly realized it. i shall buy else where"


Every company that is a smaller player always copies the industry leader.


yet..GTP is no longer a smaller player!

"The Worlds #1 supplier of aerodynamics"

lovely slogan. so how are they a smaller company? if i remember correctly they have relocated into a BIGGER warehouse am i correct?


When people mention the fact that GTP and VIS knock off JDM companies, I always find it funny. I am more than happy to show you JDM companies who knock off other JDM companies.


but the thing is...JDM companies that knock off JDM companies STILL have better quality/fitment that GTP..yes ive seen a couple.

also..the thing with JDM companies knockin off other JDM companies..the thing is..they dont knockoff EVERY SINGLE COMPANY like GTP does.

[umsports]

Silvia Driver, I'm going to let it rest. We have always differed and we probably always will. Your friend bought those parts at least a year ago, hell, I don't know how long ago it was. But I can assure you their product line has greatly improved.

I still don't understand how people can pay $150 for a bumper and complain about fitment. Obviously, their is work involved. You are only paying 1/4 of a Vertex, etc....

And I also wanted to mention that even the JDM companies are having their body kits produced outside the country. Kenny, my Store Manager in Arkansas, is from Japan and handles our importing. We always find it funny when kits come in and have a "Made in China" or "Taiwan" sticker written on the inside of a bumper in Japanese. Keep in mind, JDM doesn't always equal quality. Most companies in Japan buy outside the country. They want to maximize profits as much as we do. They turn to foreign countries to produce their products just as much as we do.

[FinalDrive]

who's going to be the guinea pig for these fenders? lol

:wavey: I already ordered a pair a week ago, just waiting for the release date and a tracking number :)

[KasperSlide]

you guys seem to know a lil bit about GTP um..... i was woundering if the BN sports 180sx blister kit is a knock-off or the real deal from BN. I would realy be thankful for the info dont want to "CRAP". :rl:

[alkrmr18]

I still don't understand how people can pay $150 for a bumper and complain about fitment. Obviously, their is work involved. You are only paying 1/4 of a Vertex, etc.....

this is why everyone is scared to buy these fenders, you are offering them for $349 on your site yet the originals that masa produces are $700, 1/2 the price.

[stephnic]

AS someone who works for a manufacturer in the aftermarket industry, its always lame to sit and read posts by someone who thinks they know what theyre talking about (yoshi and silviadriver). here is my list of why alot of the people replying to this need to find new points. heres some quotes;

1)they arent bolt on and and therefore are just as bad as the originals, thats why the originals were bad

did you have the originals? are you one of the people that got bad fitments? do you make fiberglass body parts, therefore giving you the backing to make these assumptions?

2)UM is partner with GTP, ofcourse theyre gonna say the stuff fits like a glove.

UM has the fenders on their project car (The cf version made by c-wings, which is the cf brand of importfan) and can therefore state a much more valid opinion than you.

3)I love how they show the test fit and how it fits perfectly and are all like "look at that. it fits", ofcourse its gonna fit, its the first from the mold. All the ones after it are gonna fit like crap.

The reason copy kits (like the ones on ebay) are usually garbage is because the plug used in the mold is a copy. so its essentially a copy of a copy. GTP has been clearing this up by using originals for plugs for their copy molds. If you havent noticed theyve been pulling alot of their products so you cant order them, and it just says "looking for test fit car". A mold produces repeat designs. If the mold is prepped properly during production, there will be NO degration of the mold, so 1000 uses later it will produce the EXACT same product.

When it comes to posts like this, Im a straight up guy. I have a set of these fenders and a hyposleek copy front bumper coming from Chris. I hope everyone on here also realizes that masa charges $700 because they can, and UM charges $350 because they can. Fiberglass isn't expensive, it costs under 100 dollars in materials to produce the part. They also produce the part in china (like most kit manufacturers) where the labor rate is ungodly low. That is why they can afford to charge $350. Because a product costs a shitload more than another doesnt make it better. If you think it does, then you sound like someone who should go buy a set of $6k HRE wheels thinking that your getting your moneys worth and that theres some sort of magical pixy dust on the wheels that makes them worth $6k.

[HyperTek]

you guys seem to know a lil bit about GTP um..... i was woundering if the BN sports 180sx blister kit is a knock-off or the real deal from BN. I would realy be thankful for the info dont want to "CRAP". :rl:


Real BN Sports. Just to nit pick tho, why does someone always gotta try to build publicity on forums about everything new gtp makes? I mean APC doesnt go on the forums "check out our new Drift Works crap, You will drift better with us" yadda.

[stephnic]

Real BN Sports. Just to nit pick tho, why does someone always gotta try to build publicity on forums about everything new gtp makes? I mean APC doesnt go on the forums "check out our new Drift Works crap, You will drift better with us" yadda.

why do people nit pick about stuff that doesnt hurt anyone? Exactly. It's called being smart, all smart businesses will take part in their community. UM doesnt just make advertising type posts, he chimes in and helps people as well. Chris' phone bills are hundreds of dollars every month because he is constantly helping people, only about 1/3 of the calls he receives is someone ready to order, the rest are him giving advice to people. My straight up answer to you is an example of my own personal taste. I will always give my money to the guy that is out there pushing products and helping the community, because he is the first person I come in contact with and generally offers the best customer service. The majority of people think this (Whether subconciously or not) as well. I certainly hope you wouldnt pile thousands of dollars into a group of products and then expect people to stumble upon them at random dumb luck. APC doesnt sell direct, which is why they dont push stuff on forums. They do however pay thousands to go to carshows and push their shit there, and their distributors DO go on forums (honda-tech, hahaha) and push their garbage.

[transient]

If APC suddenly came out with a high quality line I think you'd see a lot of people trying to boost their image. Now, I don't know how much better the new GTP stuff is or if it's better at all, so I'm going to stay out of that arguement completely. I can understand, however, if it's better now, why someone would want to post about it and let people know that they could get lower priced parts that are decent quality.

[stephnic]

If APC suddenly came out with a high quality line I think you'd see a lot of people trying to boost their image. Now, I don't know how much better the new GTP stuff is or if it's better at all, so I'm going to stay out of that arguement completely. I can understand, however, if it's better now, why someone would want to post about it and let people know that they could get lower priced parts that are decent quality.

your are the smartest person (other than me and chris ;)) in this post!

[HyperTek]

looks like free advertising to me... Should be more of people "yah i just got these fenders and they fit perfect!!" not "they offer these fenders that are pretty good, buy from us!!"

Waiting to see stephnic go buy some altezza style tail lights for his car if they come out.. "they pushed them on the forums so i bought them!" puahaha

[SilviaDriver]

^^^

the thing is..they already have altezza style taillights for our cars in japan. but of course it doesnt have fairy dust on it so he wotn buy it. i guess he will wait till APC/GTP makes copies of it and then he will be willing to buy it

ill make my comment on the other issues later..

[Yoshi]

AS someone who works for a manufacturer in the aftermarket industry, its always lame to sit and read posts by someone who thinks they know what theyre talking about (yoshi and silviadriver). here is my list of why alot of the people replying to this need to find new points. heres some quotes;

1)they arent bolt on and and therefore are just as bad as the originals, thats why the originals were bad

did you have the originals? are you one of the people that got bad fitments? do you make fiberglass body parts, therefore giving you the backing to make these assumptions?



Man, WTF.
Did you actually READ the whole thread before breaking out your soap box? Obviously your first "point" was directed at me. No I didn't get the GTPs myself because I was warned off about them from SilviaDriver and Sizoooo who both DID have first hand experience with the bad fenders and tossed them for Masa. Both said they were all but bolt-on, so no I didn't waste $300 of something I knew others had a lot of trouble with... guess that makes me hte ignorant one huh?

Jesus. This whole thread has gotten out of control. It seemed like things were just settling down before you decided you couldn't leave well enough alone.

I though the points I made were very clear. GTP's rep is in the gutter because of that bad run of fenders... if you'd prehaps read/comprehended my posts, you'd see that my bottom line was "Prove Me Wrong". Did you not even see this part of my post?

bottom line; someone prove me wrong. If they're as good as you're touting, I'll gladly admit fault... hell I'd go so far as to buy them myself since it'd be so much cheaper, but you mentioned the main problem in your original post. The original fenders were not well made. Everyone who bought them contributed to publcizing so, and in the process, GTP got a bad rep, whether it was justified or not. It's always hard for a business to regain public composure after such a mistake, word of mouth spreads like wildfire on zilvia and the internet as a whole. Until someone (someone unbiased), proves otherwise, people will always bash GTP, that's just the way it is.

Someone with an unbiased opinion (read: not you) needs to get these and install them, their experience will help either make or break GTP's rep from here on out as far as this subject is concerned. Your totally misconstrued/half baked summarization of what I'd said just shows how quick you are to fly off the handle in a defensive flurry just because you "work for a manufacturer in the aftermarket industry".

C'mon man, just be fair. The only buyer protection people have in car modding is the experiences of other people. While every point you made is indeed valid, you will always be viewed as slightly (if not more so) biased due to the fact that you said you work for Manufacturer-X. Chris was going about trying to set things right (he even apologized for attacking me in a PM as well, which I found very commendable), he's obviously got his head on straight and realizes that no matter how much he wants to promote a product, the only opinion that the general public is going to honestly believe, are those of the end users; joe blow who works hard at his 9-5 and scraps and saves to buy what he can, he can't afford to get something that doesn't work out.

You can argue, trash talk, slander, condescend til your blue in the face. I already said that all your points were valid, but just like EVERYTHING in life, idealism does NOT equal realism.


BOTTOM LINE (AGAIN):
GTP has new fenders out, they're supposed to be much improved, they're released on tuesday. How much improved they are (full production versions) remains to be seen, but they will be half the price of most JDM conversion fenders. People will post their personal experiences with them, good or bad.

How about this, I FUCKING BUY THEM. Like i said before, if they fit well, great, I'll apologize and preach the gospel that GTP is coming up in the world and caring more about quality control, if not, well, the status quo withstands.

Can we drop this now?
Chris u got PM.

[drift freaq]

AS someone who works for a manufacturer in the aftermarket industry, its always lame to sit and read posts by someone who thinks they know what theyre talking about (yoshi and silviadriver). here is my list of why alot of the people replying to this need to find new points. heres some quotes;

1)they arent bolt on and and therefore are just as bad as the originals, thats why the originals were bad

did you have the originals? are you one of the people that got bad fitments? do you make fiberglass body parts, therefore giving you the backing to make these assumptions?

2)UM is partner with GTP, ofcourse theyre gonna say the stuff fits like a glove.

UM has the fenders on their project car (The cf version made by c-wings, which is the cf brand of importfan) and can therefore state a much more valid opinion than you.

3)I love how they show the test fit and how it fits perfectly and are all like "look at that. it fits", ofcourse its gonna fit, its the first from the mold. All the ones after it are gonna fit like crap.

The reason copy kits (like the ones on ebay) are usually garbage is because the plug used in the mold is a copy. so its essentially a copy of a copy. GTP has been clearing this up by using originals for plugs for their copy molds. If you havent noticed theyve been pulling alot of their products so you cant order them, and it just says "looking for test fit car". A mold produces repeat designs. If the mold is prepped properly during production, there will be NO degration of the mold, so 1000 uses later it will produce the EXACT same product.

When it comes to posts like this, Im a straight up guy. I have a set of these fenders and a hyposleek copy front bumper coming from Chris. I hope everyone on here also realizes that masa charges $700 because they can, and UM charges $350 because they can. Fiberglass isn't expensive, it costs under 100 dollars in materials to produce the part. They also produce the part in china (like most kit manufacturers) where the labor rate is ungodly low. That is why they can afford to charge $350. Because a product costs a shitload more than another doesnt make it better. If you think it does, then you sound like someone who should go buy a set of $6k HRE wheels thinking that your getting your moneys worth and that theres some sort of magical pixy dust on the wheels that makes them worth $6k.


you sir are a tool, and if you think Yoshi and Silviadriver know nothing about the business, or what they are talking about your sadly mistaken.

[stephnic]

its amazing how ignorant some of you are. hypertek, if you dont want an answer, dont ask a stupid question. for the other 2 guys, im not ragging your opinions, just your arguing point. i know people were screwed by GTPs quality, but your making statements based on no experience, statements that make NO Sense (like the one about the first one coming out fine and others being low quality, that is plain stupid and proves how little you know about the manufacturing process). Like i said, I agree with the fact that they need to prove theyre better, but its stupid to come in saying false statements on why they couldnt be any better. As far as me using apc lights and all that, its nice to see you have to stoop to make pathetic insults and cracks that once again, dont make any sense. Im not going to bother making yankee insults to you guys because it would mean Im as immature as you. I hate APC by the way.

[stephnic]

you sir are a tool, and if you think Yoshi and Silviadriver know nothing about the business, or what they are talking about your sadly mistaken.

i base my opinion off the obvious false statements made. and i have worked for a supra tuner and i know work for a major race/track manufacturer, not sure about silviasdriver but yoshis job says hes a sys admin (nothing wrong with that, my dad is) which means he isnt a manufacturer. thank you for your time.

[stephnic]

yoshi, thank you for the strait up reply, its nice to see someone can handle something with talking shit in a childish honda owner manner. I agree with your points on the public (i dont work for GTP by the way, i live in FL, cant afford to live in Cali, lol) being the final setter in an opinion. My only arguement is that alot of the statements bashing UM and GTP are made off false assumptions, and I personally dont think it is right for someone who isnt in the know, to spread false info. Thank you for your time, I'm sure I'll get a bunch more immature people replying calling me a tool. but ill continue to stick to my experience and valid facts, I dont need to resort to "man, you suck" or whatever else immature people like to say when they have no valid counter.

[drift freaq]

yoshi, thank you for the strait up reply, its nice to see someone can handle something with talking shit in a childish honda owner manner. I agree with your points on the public (i dont work for GTP by the way, i live in FL, cant afford to live in Cali, lol) being the final setter in an opinion. My only arguement is that alot of the statements bashing UM and GTP are made off false assumptions, and I personally dont think it is right for someone who isnt in the know, to spread false info. Thank you for your time, I'm sure I'll get a bunch more immature people replying calling me a tool. but ill continue to stick to my experience and valid facts, I dont need to resort to "man, you suck" or whatever else immature people like to say when they have no valid counter.
nothing immature about my statement calling you a tool your posts come off like that so you are. In fact the statements you made backing yourself prove your a tool . my post was not immature . I call it as I see a spade is a spade and your a tool!!

[SilviaDriver]

the thread was on the comedown till somebody had to come in

the fact is..UM is spreading something from GTP they claim is well good quality. they can say watever the heck they want

the bottom line is....ONLY buyers first hand experience are the ones to be believed. im sure GTP said their fenders fit like a glove on teh first run..and so they will say it bout every product they produce. look at the site

"Test fitment: perfect fitment blah blah blah"

dont believe them. believe first hands exp. i ahd first hand. sizo had first hand. s14xman or watever had first hand. believe the people NOT the company.

the end.

PS: please do NOT assume things bout me. i do know bout things. the thing is..u DONT have to work somewhere to know bout it. i dont have to work in a manufactoring plant to know things bout it. just like how u dont need to work in a machinic shop to know how to fix cars.

[umsports]

Here are the test fit photos!

I would like to thankyou all for your viewpoints. I know this is a very sensistive topic. Anytime a customer is screwed, no matter how hard the company tries, the customer will paint a negative image for life.

I don't think there is anything I could do to change some on this threads viewpoints. Hell, Vertex could buyout GTP and people would still bash it. The truth is, we all feel the way we do. This thread is very evident of that.

I understand that to those who have been, or who have known somebody, who has been screwed by a replica company, that you wish to make it known to the world. I honor the fact that you value your fellow forum members, this is the reason we all post on here and ask questions.

These fenders like every other pair of "Fiberglass" fenders in the world will require some work. This may mean trimming or adding fiberglass. I would still consider this bolton, similar to how turbo manufacturers will advertise a "bolton" turbo, but you still have to make new lines, downpipes, etc. Expect some work to be done on these fenders, but it won't be anything like their old product line.

I hope my reply ends this thread. Thanks all for your comments, I do respect them no matter how much I may disagree.

Take care!

Chris
Underground Motorsports

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[umsports]

Test fit photos added to post for the world to view! I hope this dispells all doubts!

[aa87]

Seems pretty good, check your for sale thread on the S13 you have for sale. Maybe i can get a discount if i buy the car and some parts from you? Thanks.

[DeSantes]

Any closeups of where the fender meets the pillar? My particular set of Masa fenders were incredibly horrible in this area and required a fair amount of additional fabrication.

In addition, any ideas how long it will be until the carbon fiber fenders will be available to the public?

[stephnic]

In addition, any ideas how long it will be until the carbon fiber fenders will be available to the public?

I was gonna order the cf ones, Chris told me they cancelled production on them. I guess they had second thoughts. :(

It is kinda cool that the test fit car has the same hood,fenders, and bumper I'm getting, AND on the same car as mine (except mine is black).

[umsports]

You will have to add some fiberglass where the fender meets the A-pillar, it's about 1/4 inch. So, nothing major. We still have to do this with pretty much everything out there.

I would prefer a body-shop install anything we sell to the public, even carbon fiber hoods!

And the carbon fiber fenders are probably NOT going to be released to the public, FYI. They would be nearly the same cost as the MASA fenders, and I guess GTP figured they wouldn't sell.

Personally, I would buy them over the Masa's, they are lighter weight, but that's just me!

[s13Dr1ft]

This is why WE are gonna make our own line of body kits...So we are not the middle man and we can actually take the time to make sure fitment is beautiful. We dont need to carry 100+ companys, Hell we can get anything ya want. We dont need to be middle men when we can do better in house.

[s13Dr1ft]

Also im curious as to the "RB26" under the hood....Pics? Specs? im more into the engine's and stuff then the looks.

[rcviper]

His RB can be seen here:
http://www.underground-motorsports.com/about-projectcar.htm

Complete built motor, his car is no joke. I will be purchasing an entire S14.5 front end from him today and we'll see how it all fits. I'll let everyone know.