RIP Paul Walker?

[slowjvms]

Fast And Furious Star Paul Walker Reportedly Dead In Car Accident (http://jalopnik.com/fast-and-furious-star-paul-walker-reportedly-dead-in-ca-1474200748)

:cry:

[drscooper]

now me and the mad scientist have to rip apart the block and clean up the piston rings you fired

[lflkajfj12123]

goodnight sweet prince

[theronin]

Shit just ruined my holiday season. I'm still in shock.

[tqstarburst]

So far they say it's a death hoax. Who knows, I really hope so.

[drift freaq]

I will wait to see more confirmation. Though I do have to say if he was in a Carrera GT, its possible. Those cars are a handful to drive and Porsche stopped building them after 2 years... because so many owners were killing themselves in them.

[oridostyle]

RIP Brian Earl Spilner

[Gnnr]

All news outlets seem to be picking it up and there is no activity from his twitter :(

https://twitter.com/RealPaulWalker

[yomisiu]

"A rep for the actor confirms Paul died today in the crash after leaving a charity event."

[Felipe]

Fffffuuuuuuuuuuuuukkkkkk

[redline racer510]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS !!!!!

Who knew he would die from an event similar to a scene he played in F&F. If its true may he RIP.

[Gnnr]

ABC News confirms

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/406982581293678593

:( :( :( :(

[yomisiu]

confirmed https://www.facebook.com/PaulWalker

https://www.facebook.com/PaulWalker

edit:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BaXm4fcCMAA-_Qq.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BaXmxMFCAAAhFBi.jpg


damn

[Gnnr]

Apparently driver was not Paul Walker but Roger Rodas. To die as a passenger, Fuck!

Paul Walker might be dead - TFW2005 - The 2005 Boards (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/general-discussion/965422-paul-walker-might-dead.html)

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Car community is tight knit :(

[drift freaq]

R.I.P.

kinda eliminates the Fast and the Furious franchise now.

[treeafodo]

I really hope it's a hoax, but seeing as ABC confirmed it, it's probably true. :(

What about F&F 7 now-kill him off in the movie or scrap production?

Edit: I've heard a rumor started yesterday that he died and a fiery crash happened today, but they haven't identified the passengers?

[zo0d]

Looks like he owes himself a 10 second car...

R.I.P

Reports say the welds on the intake couldn't handle the 300 shot he was running and the car burst into flames.

[Kallixtos]

What!? Damn I hate to admit it but I'm bummed. RIP

[treeafodo]

http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=21059278&sid=75&ts=true

:(

[future]

You know how people where for MJ? Well this is the same for me


Without the FF franchise idk what I'd be. It started EVERYTHING to me. Danm

And it has been confirmed though his Facebook and Twitter

[HyperTek]

"Walker has been taking people on test drives of the car at a car show to raise money for victims of the typhoon in the Philippines, TMZ reported. "
Paul Walker dead at 40: 'Fast and Furious' star killed in fiery car crash - NY Daily News (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/paul-walker-dies-crash-report-article-1.1533786)

Makes me feel pretty sad now, sounds like he had a good heart. Never really heard about him screwing around in the media like other stars. Just sometimes the temptations of speeding in a fast car gets the best of us, regardless of whoever the driver was, take it to the track.

=(

[Gnnr]

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[treeafodo]

Holy crap! Rip :(

[Kallixtos]

R.I.P.

kinda eliminates the Fast and the Furious franchise now.

They'll probably do something like Statham did to Han. Somehow tie his death into the movie.

[redline racer510]

Should have bought a benz.

[yomisiu]

i doubt ANY of the original cast would be ok with just continuing on without him.

[Debo]

I heard he was walking down Hollywood blvd after dinner today

[Gnnr]

i doubt ANY of the original cast would be ok with just continuing on without him.

This. No way Diesel would continue. 7 is most likely already done, but I cant see anything beyond that happening.

[DialedLife]

That Porsche had enough nitrous in it to to blow them up apparently

[S14kouki_10]

This truly sucks..

[driftheart]

Is that standard procedure for Carrera GT crashes, crash then catch on fire?

RIP Paul Walker - Brian "Buster" O'Connor.

[Kallixtos]

This. No way Diesel would continue. 7 is most likely already done, but I cant see anything beyond that happening.

Yea that's probably true, if 7 near being finished. I agree they should end the franchise.

[redline racer510]

Un-opened F&F movies gonna be worth money.

[davirene]

Damm that sux..............and a bad rep for the Porsche GT3.....

[Gnnr]

Is that standard procedure for Carrera GT crashes, crash then catch on fire?

Seriously! Same thing happened with Ryan Dunn. WTF Porsche?

[Drifting240/7]

There better be some good tuna where he's going.

[Boosted92]

Such sad news, I was watching the original on TV when it started to pop up. I had to turn off the TV... There are multiple pictures and a video of the accident here:
"Fast And Furious" Star Paul Walker Dies In Car Accident (http://www.buzzfeed.com/mackenziekruvant/paul-walker-dies-in-car-accident)

[Wookie384]

Crazy part is a friend of mine knows him, he and his wife went to the meet and saw Paul there, his wife finally got to take a picture with Paul as they were leaving, which was right before it happened. I crossed paths with him at a track event a few years ago when my buddy was racing at Auto Club Speedway, and a few times when he ran in Redline Time Attack for AE and was a pretty good driver and a chill guy. RIP

[zooopreme]

RIP
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BaX39zLCcAApAqv.jpg:large

[tqstarburst]

^ to

http://i44.tinypic.com/15i5blx.jpg

Such a big loss.. /:

[Felipe]

Such sad news, I was watching the original on TV when it started to pop up. I had to turn off the TV... There are multiple pictures and a video of the accident here:
"Fast And Furious" Star Paul Walker Dies In Car Accident (http://www.buzzfeed.com/mackenziekruvant/paul-walker-dies-in-car-accident)

In one of the pictures you can hint a leg under the drivers side dash by the steering wheel :picardfp:

[K's240]

RIP to a Nissan lover

[sargdesigns]

Wow, RIP Paul Walker. :-/

[enkei2k]

https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/1477981_10100360748354397_1070035259_n.jpg

Upon hearing this news, I went to the nearest diner and ordered this...didn't ask them how it was beforehand though.

such sad news. RIP ...

[chokudoriS13]

Apparently a video immediately after:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmdR341ZEkU&sns


Sent from a rotary-dial phone using Edna the Small Town Operator

[No 240.. No id]

Video Del Accidente Donde Murio Paul Walker - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmdR341ZEkU&sns)

Video Del Accidente Donde Murio Paul Walker - YouTube (http://youtu.be/mmdR341ZEkU)

very very sad news. RIP

[jamg]

i doubt ANY of the original cast would be ok with just continuing on without him.

if paul would have wanted anything, it would be for them to finish the series, for the sake of all F&F enthusiasts out there.

paul walker was a true car enthusiast.

[Gamma]

Noooooooooooo....Dang still in shock, I just can't believe it fuck I'm so sad right now.... This is truly a sad day for me.... Fuck Porsche, piece of shit over priced pile of crap... R.I.P Paul walk and thx for introducing me to the car scene..

[simmode1]

if paul would have wanted anything, it would be for them to finish the series, for the sake of all F&F enthusiasts out there.

paul walker was a true car enthusiast.
Agreed. They better undo the Vin Deisel dying storyline and bring in Sean Boswell to pinch hit.

But seriously, This is terrible. Prayers to Paul Walker's family and that of the unnamed driver.

CNN is reporting that speed was a factor in the crash. Of course, we already knew that... But how many times we gotta say it? Keep that shit off the streets and take it to a track!

[Fuego]

Damn I'm usually not one to be even a little concerned with celebrity deaths, but I grew up on F+F... it's what made me interested in imports. Paul was a huge inspiration off the set too man.

All the evidence says it's not, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it's a hoax.

[simmode1]

^^^Dude, it's on his twitter, his facebook... his management team released a statement and every news outlet is reporting it.

Sorry man. I wish it were a hoax but it ain't.

[jamg]

yeah, ludacris posted a status about his death.

it's real :(

watch this interview and get his with the FEELS.

Multimedia - Signal News Now: Actor Paul Walker Killed In Valencia Crash (http://www.signalscv.com/multimedia/1776/)

[Fuego]

^^^Dude, it's on his twitter, his facebook... his management team released a statement and every news outlet is reporting it.

Sorry man. I wish it were a hoax but it ain't.

I know I just want it to be one, I'm just not getting my hopes too far up.

[96maxima_se85]

I was hoping this was a hoax...just freaking sad man! Such a cool guy man. The fast movies aint gonna be the same! RIP

[upsdude]

I'm watching the first FnF on t.v.
:( R.I.P.

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[kornmanz]

Yeah its been confirmed. I've been pretty broken up about it.


Didn't hear about it until just minutes after it was officially announced on Facebook/Twitter.


Sad day.

[drift freaq]

Is that standard procedure for Carrera GT crashes, crash then catch on fire?

RIP Paul Walker - Brian "Buster" O'Connor.

Carrera GT's do not have a good history in the crash department. Like I posted earlier Porsche stopped making them after 2 years because owners were killing themselves with them.
They are not easy to drive cars. They are somewhat diabolical in less than super experienced drivers hands.

Damm that sux..............and a bad rep for the Porsche GT3.....

Carrera GT's are different cars than GT3's GT3's are 911 variants, Carrera GT is a completely different.

Oh and a big price difference as well a GT3 will not set you back $450,000. Yup close to half a mil.

[initial_jc]

damn, this sucks especially since i grew up on FF

[xBtony]

RIP. Sad day and a big loss to the community.

[mechanicalmoron]

I'm sort of ashamed to admit it, but the original two fast and the furious movies did sort of introduce cars being cool to me, when I was a little kid and all the real cars I knew where bland and utilitarian and slow.

So yeah, RIP.

[jamg]

brian from family guy dies
brian o connor dies
top gear tests the car against the SLR- says "make a mistake and it'll kill ya"
F&F 1 scene where toretto is talking about how he watched his dad burn in the car

so many feels :(

[KiLLeR2001]

Sad day. R.I.P. Paul.

Doing some of my own investigation... If you look at Google maps at the crash site...

http://goo.gl/maps/DpU4X

You will notice a perfectly intact light pole with the 35 MPH sign attached.

http://ll-media.tmz.com/2013/11/30/1130-paul-walker-accident-scene-twitter-3.jpg

Picture of the same area after the accident. You can clearly see that light pole and sign had been completely knocked out by the impact, ripping it right out of the concrete. They hit that light pole at a high rate of speed and most likely died instantly.

[Boosted92]

But seriously, This is terrible. Prayers to Paul Walker's family and that of the unnamed driver.

The unnamed driver was his financial adviser, racing buddy, and SCCA World Challenge driver Roger Rodas.

[EDacIouSX]

Sad day. R.I.P. Paul.

Doing some of my own investigation... If you look at Google maps at the crash site...

http://goo.gl/maps/DpU4X

You will notice a perfectly intact light pole with the 35 MPH sign attached.

http://ll-media.tmz.com/2013/11/30/1130-paul-walker-accident-scene-twitter-3.jpg

Picture of the same area after the accident. You can clearly see that light pole and sign had been completely knocked out by the impact, ripping it right out of the concrete. They hit that light pole at a high rate of speed and most likely died instantly.

jesus, must have hit it at over 70mph I'd imagine...

[simmode1]

The unnamed driver was his financial adviser, racing buddy, and SCCA World Challenge driver Roger Rodas.
You gotta be fucking kidding me. I'm gonna try real hard not to make judgmental comments about the driver out of respect to the families.

[acslater9]

Damn this is really sad...I'm going out to get a tuna sandwich soon in tribute to him. RIP

[reallygood101]

i dont really get that broken up when a celeb dies but this one took my breath away, really sucks cant get my head around it still think its just a hoax but when waking up this morning and still reading bout it on the news ill have to begin to realize that paul walker has passed on and my heart goes out to his loved ones. very sad day indeed RIP paul walker.

[future]

Call me kind of obsessed but yesterday morning before all this happened I was reading into his life and so on. Amazing dude and I credit him and FF for what I am. Call me obsessed with cars, but the first movie started it for me. It's the true reason my dream car has been a R34 for as long as I can remember. That ugly ass silver with bkue stripes. What I'd do to have that sitting in my garage. I remember seeing it at Universal Studios all the time and knowing nothing more then it was Brians car and I loved it. Wish I could have seen it years later when I knew something

[simmode1]

About the driver.

Hollywood Actor Saves the Day After Always Evolving Teammate Wrecks at Long Beach (http://www.world-challenge.com/news/story.php?story=2944)

Roger Rodas at Driver Database | Motorsport (http://www.driverdb.com/drivers/roger-rodas/)

Y! SPORTS (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nascar-from-the-marbles/reports-driver-car-crash-killed-paul-walker-drove-072303834--nascar.html)

[HyperTek]

jesus, must have hit it at over 70mph I'd imagine...

Damm, the rear of the car must have stepped out coming around that corner at high speed, spun it.

Its just crazy that the driver who has racing experience, didn't use better judgement about going around that corner.

I see I have a few friends who posted on facebook that they met Paul at a few car events and all say he was a real car enthusiast .

[simmode1]

Its just crazy that the driver who has racing experience, didn't use better judgement about going around that corner.
Agreed. From what I've read, he had 8 unremarkable races under his belt racing a Mustang 302 Boss and was a rookie in that series, but had previous experience racing Porsche Cup Cars.

If the accident was caused by some mechanical failure, I might find it easier to understand. But I can find no justification for any driver, much less a Pro driver to be going fast enouogh on the street to cause that kind of damage.

Completely senseless loss of life. Really sad.

[Juantwo3]

RIP Paul Walker.

alot of people are cracking jokes and bashing on the F and F, have some respect.
above all he was a car enthusiast just like all of us are. and can relate to all of us who get into friends cars and drive.

[DALAZ_68]

I see I have a few friends who posted on facebook that they met Paul at a few car events and all say he was a real car enthusiast .

He truly was an enthusiast...spotted him a few times at willow for redline TA and at irwindale for formula D

He was just an actor to many...but for those who actually saw him enjoy the spirit of driving made him a real downbtobearth dude.

He's what I call a real actor...didn't do drugs. Didnt Set bad examples. And was a real family man to boot...

We lost a fellow enthusiast...


Why couldn't it have been miley and Justin beiber...

[Drift_FX]

am i the only one who doesnt care? it is sad for his friends and family, but thats it.... its pathetic how everyone is making a show out of it...... better people than him die everyday, yet know one makes a big deal about them... besides, the movies were awful anyhow...

[Seraphim38]

According to althe BBC, he was the passenger not the driver. It is possible for a car to hit a post just right, where the fas tank is, and have it explode on impact. I have seen it in person with my own eyes, and that driver wasn't speeding at the time.

Anyway, sad for him, his family and friends. I csn only imafine what the pundits will claim from ignorance, probably indicating that the crash was somehow karmic payback for his movie roles. (Lame)

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[Gymkana101]

I loved Paul's movies. From one fellow car enthusiast to the next, I'll miss this guy a lot. It's too bad but at least he went out doing what he loved...driving fast in a Porsche GT ! Rest easy man
#REMEMBERTHEBUSTER
http://lacedlifestyle.bigcartel.com/...uster-stickers

^^^^^^ Go here and purchase a sticker to support the organization he founded in 2010, REACH OUT WORLDWIDE, which helps victims of natural disasters that are in need of help : )
...and then pass it on!!

[simmode1]

^^^Yessir, I am down for some Paul Walker stickers.
am i the only one who doesnt care? it is sad for his friends and family, but thats it.... its pathetic how everyone is making a show out of it...... better people than him die everyday, yet know one makes a big deal about them... besides, the movies were awful anyhow...
Stay out if you don't care then. People better people than him die everyday, huh? Not saying he was an angel, but he was a pretty good guy with a great rep amongst ppl who know. Are you aware of just how much charity work this guy did to help others?

We'll see how many ppl care about you when you go.

[Matej]

Poor fellow. He seemed a nice guy.


They hit that light pole at a high rate of speed and most likely died instantly.
...Is what Johnny Tran wants you to think.

[enriquetc240]

I wish him and his family the best.

He played a big role for some of us car enthusiast creating some memories that we will always look back to.

hate it or love it, their movies brought our community a little closer together at times.

[Hlsilver]

am i the only one who doesnt care? it is sad for his friends and family, but thats it.... its pathetic how everyone is making a show out of it...... better people than him die everyday, yet know one makes a big deal about them... besides, the movies were awful anyhow...

Sure the movies were corny but think about how much the car scene has been influence by them, for better or for worse. I heard someone make the comment earlier that he's like the James Dean or Steve McQueen of our generation. So many people in Hollywood get rich and go buy a Ferrari or something because they have the means to and want to show off their wealth, but Walker was a legitimate enthusiast. Every story I've read of his interactions with people who have met him speak pretty highly of the guy, definitely a down to earth nice guy. He started his own charity foundation and had done a ton to help out a number of charities. In the end he was one of us, shared an interest that we all share, he just happened to have a career that gave him large amounts of exposure so people are more aware of what happened.

[ZenkiKid]

Guy lived the LIFE we all could only dream of.

RIP.

[Oakville]

Guy lived the LIFE we all could only dream of.

RIP.

couldn't have put it any better myself.

[SharkBite]

Sure the movies were corny but think about how much the car scene has been influence by them, for better or for worse. I heard someone make the comment earlier that he's like the James Dean or Steve McQueen of our generation. So many people in Hollywood get rich and go buy a Ferrari or something because they have the means to and want to show off their wealth, but Walker was a legitimate enthusiast. Every story I've read of his interactions with people who have met him speak pretty highly of the guy, definitely a down to earth nice guy. He started his own charity foundation and had done a ton to help out a number of charities. In the end he was one of us, shared an interest that we all share, he just happened to have a career that gave him large amounts of exposure so people are more aware of what happened.

^^ this.

its not what he was in the movies, its what he was in reality. you, I, nor anyone on here can say that tuners and the car scene would be the same without the F&F franchise. its not about that though. Paul was like everyone has said, an enthusiast.Thats what the sport needs. its what keeps us together and defines us as a whole. He gave, and devoted himself to a greater good other than himself. if you look at the world today with its selfishness and greed, thats hard to find. hes a damn good guy so I hope everyone just respects that.

we lost a legend. and he'll always be remembered in the community.
#rememberthebuster

[Boosted92]

What bothers me is that in this picture:
http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/277/files/2013/11/accident-590x351.jpg

Is that you can see someone clearly standing in front of the car with a phone - either recording or taking pictures of their bodies burning...

[Smurf_240SX]

So sad to see this happen, one of the biggest influences in my life that got me into cars... Rest in Piece Paul :wtc:

[jamg]

Paul was a legit good guy.

I don't see how any of you can hate him.

he's done more, as a regular guy, than any of you talking bad at him.

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[future]

What bothers me is that in this picture:
http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/277/files/2013/11/accident-590x351.jpg

Is that you can see someone clearly standing in front of the car with a phone - either recording or taking pictures of their bodies burning...

Or maybe one of his friends calling the cops? They interviewed them and they said they were first there and they tried

[ESmorz]

I found out that he died from my buddy who met him when he lived in Santa Barbara down the street from him. He had just dropped acid and was walking to 7/11 and saw him and a beautiful girl standing near the crosswalk. He walked up to him and said "You're Paul Walker, good for you! I'm on acid" and he apparently laughed, shook his hand, and wished my buddy a good time.

By all accounts a good fuckin' ese. Actually got really into cars and never got into any trouble/wasn't a media whore. Fucking love the FTF franchise. The first one got me into imports and I'm sure a lot of you guys as well. Will marathon and drink 40's all day today.

[feito]

damn, this is really sad news. I found out last night when my only car buddy and i were working on our 240's, it really sucks and i gotta admit im still in a bit of shock.
He went out in style and im almost sure he had an instant painless dead
Bye bye O'Connor.

[HyperTek]

Tyrese has been taking it hard
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[future]

too sad. We definitely lost a fellow enthusiast, but atleast he went out like a boss doing what he loved to do in a badass Porsche GT. Rest easy Paul Walker!
#REMEMBERTHEBUSTER
#REMEMBERTHEBUSTER stickers / LacedUP (http://lacedlifestyle.bigcartel.com/product/rememberthebuster-stickers)

We need colors and size choices. Can't fit that anywhere

[Buc-town]

That wasn't the worst part. There were earlier videos when a few guys were following them, they've taken the shot when it seemed like you could still come up to the wreak before the whole vehicle engulfed in flames. It was the first clip after seeing the news online, I'll see if I can link it here.

Anyway, I will leave this quote here:

"If one day the speed kills me, don't cry. I was smiling" - Paul Walker, Rest In Peace

http://oi41.tinypic.com/rwjk3s.jpg

[mechanicalmoron]

This is fuckin' weird, I heard this yesterday evening, but only now did I realize that yesterday afternoon I found a fast and the furious 1 dvd, in a used dvd player.

[Gymkana101]

We need colors and size choices. Can't fit that anywhere

email LacedUp about it, i'm sure they could hook that up. i'm just spreading the word

[s14sliding]

[QUOTE=Buc-town;5491344]That wasn't the worst part. There were earlier videos when a few guys were following them, they've taken the shot when it seemed like you could still come up to the wreak before the whole vehicle engulfed in flames. It was the first clip after seeing the news online, I'll see if I can link it here.

Anyway, I will leave this quote here:

"If one day the speed kills me, don't cry. I was smiling" - Paul Walker, Rest In Peace

I saw the vid you are talking about wish they would have just ran up and grabbed them two before the fire. in the video you can hear what sounds like an explosion.

All in all i loved the Fast and Furious movies. The first one especially. I remember i was 12 years old would watch the movie everyday after school. Fell in love with cars and the characters of the movies. Ive always read about him and watched interviews and you could just tell he was an awesome good guy that loved cars just as we all do.

RIP Paul Walker
May speed always be with you on the other side.

[future]

Said video?

[carbon24]

Yesterday my gf and I went to buy some Miro's for her z32 and as I was in the office I looked around and saw a trucker hat with "fast and furious 7" on it.this was around 2 pm :/ fuck RIP

[xoxide]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PM-X6WF0S40

RIP... F&F movies were what really got me into imports as a kid. Definetly a good dude.

[jamg]

[QUOTE=Buc-town;5491344]That wasn't the worst part. There were earlier videos when a few guys were following them, they've taken the shot when it seemed like you could still come up to the wreak before the whole vehicle engulfed in flames. It was the first clip after seeing the news online, I'll see if I can link it here.

Anyway, I will leave this quote here:

"If one day the speed kills me, don't cry. I was smiling" - Paul Walker, Rest In Peace

I saw the vid you are talking about wish they would have just ran up and grabbed them two before the fire. in the video you can hear what sounds like an explosion.

All in all i loved the Fast and Furious movies. The first one especially. I remember i was 12 years old would watch the movie everyday after school. Fell in love with cars and the characters of the movies. Ive always read about him and watched interviews and you could just tell he was an awesome good guy that loved cars just as we all do.

RIP Paul Walker
May speed always be with you on the other side.

the explosion was the tire popping.

cars do not blow up. under VERY small circumstances will it explode.

[sickstatus]

I've been bummed out all day. He was definitely an idol. Rev.in.peace

[ESmorz]

Well these scenes are pretty eerie now.

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[HyperTek]

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[SharkBite]

It is eeri if you think about how doms dad died and how paul died. Its going to be weird watching however they say their goodbyes to him..

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[Boosted92]

The Supercar Kids ? What Caused the Carrera GT to Explode? (http://thesupercarkids.com/what-caused-the-carrera-gt-to-explode/)

Explanation of what most likely happened from people who were there.

[TrueFreshness]

Still having a hard time believing this.

R.I.P.

[1 88 U]

[QUOTE=Buc-town;5491344]
"If one day the speed kills me, don't cry. I was smiling" - Paul Walker, Rest In Peace



Well that made me cry

[twotoes]

I dont know why but I feel like I knew him. He had such a large hand in my passion for everything automotive.

[simmode1]

The Supercar Kids ? What Caused the Carrera GT to Explode? (http://thesupercarkids.com/what-caused-the-carrera-gt-to-explode/)

Explanation of what most likely happened from people who were there.
Hmmm... Over-correction into snap oversteer. Big learning curve when driving MR cars. If Stig had problems with this car, that a sure fire sign you need to slow your ass down.

[PeaceOnesxWai]

I should post this in here. My buddy Will Wattanawongkiri's car
"because thats something I would drive"

RIP Paul, you were an idol

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[Felipe]

Best picture ever :0)


I remember a few years back, flipping channels on tv, i came accross poeple tagging and taking down specs on great white sharks off the waters by catalina island. Paul was right there in the mix! I was like "hey thats the guy from f&f" im guessing that was one of many hobbies.

[tqstarburst]

Power steering fluid is said to be the cause. I mean I do find it a bit weird that the front end catched fired so quickly when we all know it's an MR vehicle.


Such shame Porsche. "Still a busta" RIP :/

[Highway Riding]

RIP sad stuff!

[mantas]

Power steering fluid is said to be the cause. I mean I do find it a bit weird that the front end catched fired so quickly when we all know it's an MR vehicle.


Such shame Porsche. "Still a busta" RIP :/

Well the gas tank is under the passenger compartment in the front....so it would explain why the front was on fire. RIP PW.

[Seraphim38]

I have seen an accident almost exactly like this; it happened a mere 20 feet from me and I was able to get the driver out before he died. 60% 3rd degree burns. He was not speeding at the time of the accident.

Fortunately I was able to save his life, but I was unable to save the passenger.

An impact directly to a susceptible area of a gas tank or splitting pressurized gas lines can turn a car into an instant fireball. It's not a pretty site, and the resultant fire can be incredibly hot.

[HyperTek]

I should post this in here. My buddy Will Wattanawongkiri's car


I wish i had got to met him. A few friends have ran into him at events so close. I just dont have the job to allow me to get out to the tracks =\

[future]

Best picture ever :0)


I remember a few years back, flipping channels on tv, i came accross poeple tagging and taking down specs on great white sharks off the waters by catalina island. Paul was right there in the mix! I was like "hey thats the guy from f&f" im guessing that was one of many hobbies.

Seen this also, on shark week. I've seen him in Japan at the Mines factory also. This guy was just in everything so much more then we know. Wish I had the chance to meet him. Cause if I would have saw a post on his instgram about being there for the fun raiser I would have went. Not too bad of a drive

[collegekid]

I've been taking this pretty hard. I have to admit I cried a few times.

Anyway, from every single site writing about him they all say positive things. Even the Conspiracy theory pages on facebook even show sympathy when they normally talk shit on celebrities.

I agree that he lived a life most people dream about and that he would have been a cool person to know/ be friends with.

I will leave you guys with this. If you don't want to watch the whole 9 minutes, just watch from 9:10 to the end.

Why Paul Walker's Death is Relevant to Car Lovers - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fyH7dPUbAU)

[future]

Idk who that is but that was a aswome video

[Boosted92]

Security camera footage at moment of impact:
Paul Walker Crash -- The Moment Of Impact & Massive Inferno | Celebrity Videos | TMZ.com (http://www.tmz.com/videos/0_oehej0ek/)

[HyperTek]

was reading someone's comment, saying that for the movies, they should just have Brian and Mia leave the cast with their child to live happily ever after.. Send them off in some good way. That would be good.

Maybe introduce the tokyo drift guy to the team, say he is Brian's cousin. Han praised him for his skill before he died or something.

[driftheart]

collegekid - That is a cool video, I can relate to what that guys said, after the 1st movie I didn't know much about cars either, and it did ignite the passion (or obsession as its referred to by some) for cars.

[sidewaysil80]

What a shame. I stopped watching F&F after the 3rd one, but I would be lying if I said the first one wasn't what introduced me to cars. Combined with how humble and active within the culture Paul was, it makes this the ONLY celebrity death that really bums me out. I get the guy was an actor and we only know his characters, but watching real life footage and interviews etc. it seems like Brian from F&F wasn't too far off the mark from his real life persona. In a sense that kind of makes it worse as it feels as if to some degree you knew him.

On a brighter note, peep his car collection. IMO its perfect, not too much and a great mix of performance/baller status and automotive culture that I am a fan of.
Yahoo! (http://autos.yahoo.com/news/look-inside-paul-walker-garage-photos-190008850.html)

[theronin]

I've been taking this pretty hard. I have to admit I cried a few times.

Anyway, from every single site writing about him they all say positive things. Even the Conspiracy theory pages on facebook even show sympathy when they normally talk shit on celebrities.

I agree that he lived a life most people dream about and that he would have been a cool person to know/ be friends with.

I will leave you guys with this. If you don't want to watch the whole 9 minutes, just watch from 9:10 to the end.

Why Paul Walker's Death is Relevant to Car Lovers - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fyH7dPUbAU)

This is pretty much spot on. Conveys almost exactly how I feel. Some people I've talked to think I'm weird when I say that I felt like I lost a friend. Unless you are a car guy/girl you he was just an actor that died tragically. However to us gear heads he was much much more. Thanks for sharing this. Helps a lil :)

[simmode1]

On a brighter note, peep his car collection. IMO its perfect, not too much and a great mix of performance/baller status and automotive culture that I am a fan of.
Yahoo! (http://autos.yahoo.com/news/look-inside-paul-walker-garage-photos-190008850.html)
Ya know, my youtube feed randomly recommended this to me just this morning...

It's Always Evolving's Garage aka Paul's personal collection. This video is FAAAAR more detailed than the yahoo link. But I agree... Perfect collection, IMO.
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[Tom25666]

this is pretty sad. even if you didn't like his movies he was still a father and seemed like a pretty good guy.

[Felipe]

Ya know, my youtube feed randomly recommended this to me just this morning...

It's Always Evolving's Garage aka Paul's personal collection. This video is FAAAAR more detailed than the yahoo link. But I agree... Perfect collection, IMO.
U189SwhPXKI

@6:34 :naw: from all the cars the only two not legal to drive lol

[simmode1]

^^^I don't think he gave a fuck... lol

Here they are in all their glory:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A0G54r3CUAECuAx.jpg:large
http://www.revvolution.com/image/albums-b-43-rj-r8-0/wall-pictures-51a347a7912b0.jpg
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Per The Buster's twitter page I ripped the pic from, the S15 has 562whp while the R34 has 874whp. DAMN.

God. Sometimes I forget how beautiful S15's are... Almost makes me wanna vomit when I see S13's now. =\
was reading someone's comment, saying that for the movies, they should just have Brian and Mia leave the cast with their child to live happily ever after.. Send them off in some good way. That would be good.

Maybe introduce the tokyo drift guy to the team, say he is Brian's cousin. Han praised him for his skill before he died or something.
I like this idea except for the whole out of the blue "I'm Brian O'Conner's cousin' bit. They don't need to be related for Sean to be reintroduced into the storyline.

[sidewaysil80]

Are people really referring to him as "the buster" now. Ugh.

[brewster240]

http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/jason_statham_01.jpg

[dat925stunna]

It hurt me, the fast and the furious set my mind on imports and the loss of the guy who played a character who once was a noob really bothers me cuz i too was a noob :cry:
i want to make the drive to valencia to pay my respects RIP paul walker
aka Brian O' Conner

[Silverbullet]

Too soon, junior.
Whats mind boggling is the driver is a pro driver. It just shows the level of risk there is for anyone when it comes to performance driving.

A lot of good is prob coming out of this. Its giving all of today's car enthusists an eye opener that it can happen to anyone on the streets. We can better advise the younger new generation of car enthusists to keep it on the tracks.

It will be interesting how the FF franchise will unfold.

[ProjectPanda13]

Heard or read somewhere that they were doing about a 100mph (was listening to Q100 I think) and that the tire could have bursted that cause the car to spin and crash.

Latez,
-Dave

Sent from my SGH-T889 using Tapatalk 2

[gbaby2089]

Too soon, junior.
Whats mind boggling is the driver is a pro driver. It just shows the level of risk there is for anyone when it comes to performance driving.

A lot of good is prob coming out of this. Its giving all of today's car enthusists an eye opener that it can happen to anyone on the streets. We can better advise the younger new generation of car enthusists to keep it on the tracks.

It will be interesting how the FF franchise will unfold.

I want to make this clear.

Roger Rodas was not a professional race car driver.

He was a 'Wealth Advisor' for Merrill Lynch, in fact he was PW's financial advisor.

He's driven in eight races and written off at least one car in doing so.

In other words, he's your standard rich guy who wanted to play race car driver, with much, much more money than talent.

[Silverbullet]

^
I don't understand the need for your disrespecting scolding.

I mean, it kind of depends what you want to consider a pro. To me, you don't need to be a signed ALMS, NASCAR or F1 driver to be a pro. The drivers of FD are very much pros. The drivers of Global Rally Cross are pros. The top drivers of NASA and SCCA sanctioned series are very much pros. What does being a finaicial advisor have to do with taking away Rados as a driver? If you goto a local NASA weekend, you will notice many of those drivers are what you consider "rich" guys that self fund their race program with a few contingancy sponsors here and there.

My point being, someone with a road race background has died. It puts into perspective the risks of driving, and how real they are.

[gbaby2089]

^
I don't understand the need for your disrespecting scolding.

I mean, it kind of depends what you want to consider a pro. To me, you don't need to be a signed ALMS, NASCAR or F1 driver to be a pro. The drivers of FD are very much pros. The drivers of Global Rally Cross are pros. The top drivers of NASA and SCCA sanctioned series are very much pros. What does being a finaicial advisor have to do with taking away Rados as a driver? If you goto a local NASA weekend, you will notice many of those drivers are what you consider "rich" guys that self fund their race program with a few contingancy sponsors here and there.

My point being, someone with a road race background has died. It puts into perspective the risks of driving, and how real they are.

He's a weekend racer. Not a pro. He does not pay his bills racing cars.

Graham Rahal, former owner of the car and an actual professional racer, said it was a hard car to drive and that its claimed traction control would do nothing to save someone who couldn't handle it.

I'm not trying to be disrespectful of the dead, but the coverage of this has been flawed. Roger Rodas was an enthusiast, yes, but he was not a racing driver.

[zooopreme]

Both of you are correct. But this accident did not "put things into perspective" and people are making it more complicated than it has to be:

I'm not a man without sins as I do partake in spirited driving on occasion but was it that far out of perspective to think that driving that fast in a car (that a lot of people say is hard to drive) would have resulted in a bad accident? The simple equation is speed + loss of control is a bad time and it could mean your life. That's just the nature of what we have to accept if we choose to drive fast. Too much YOLO-ing without knowing or accepting the consequences can do that to people.

Whether or not Roger Rodas was a professional or a weekend warrior does not matter. Anybody could have driven that car the same way and probably would have resulted the same exact way. Celebrities, weekend warriors, professional drivers, the broke as a joke enthusiast, your average joe, your standard rich guys all would have suffered the same fate had we put them in that car during that same moment. Cars don't kill people, people in cars kill people. It's just real unfortunate that Paul and Roger were in that vehicle when things went wrong.

[drift freaq]

Fact is I have said it before. Carrera GT's are known for being very dangerousness I'll handling cars. Given this there was definitely driver error involved in underestimating the cars proclivities. It's genuinely sad but like others have said any driver pro or not could have crashed it. " make one mistake and it will kill you"

[Felipe]

Are people really referring to him as "the buster" now. Ugh.

Would you perfer (like tyrese says) "blondie" ?

[PeaceOnesxWai]

The nicknames reminds us of the better times.. in no way it is disrespectful to bring them up.

[collegekid]

was reading someone's comment, saying that for the movies, they should just have Brian and Mia leave the cast with their child to live happily ever after.. Send them off in some good way. That would be good.

Maybe introduce the tokyo drift guy to the team, say he is Brian's cousin. Han praised him for his skill before he died or something.


I don't think they need to make Sean boswell related to O'connor.


Regardless of how they send off Brian, the tears are gonna be real. Every single scene from here on out ( if they still decide to finish the movie) is going to show some sort of reaction about his death. It WILL hit hard if/when the movie comes out.


-_-

[Seraphim38]

Yup.

It's a good gut check regarding the streets and driving safely. I know my car has more power than it can stick, and it is a strong reminder not to push it on the street; leave it on the track where light poles and curbs aren't there.

[SimpleS14]

R.I.P. Paul Walker


I hope they complete Fast 7 to honor him. It's possible they can get a stunt double and use some CGI for certain scenes. I don't see them continuing the franchise after that, but Lucas Black did sign on for three films....

[yetijeff]

Socal carmeets posted that there's gonna be a meet/memorial at the crash site dec 8. 25690 Hercules st. Valencia ca. 12-5. I guess the church down the street is gonna have water, coffee, doughnuts and whatnot.

[PeaceOnesxWai]

^the actual Blue R34 from Fast 4 is gonna be there aswell

[Felipe]

Sean boswell reminds of a midget :0/ or is it just me lol

[HyperTek]

Sean boswell reminds of a midget :0/ or is it just me lol

He has like a little kid's-shaped head lol

[mantas]

Socal carmeets posted that there's gonna be a meet/memorial at the crash site dec 8. 25690 Hercules st. Valencia ca. 12-5. I guess the church down the street is gonna have water, coffee, doughnuts and whatnot.

I'm going....parking lots and streets full of cars.....i'm sure PW will be smiling in heaven.

[TwelveAM]

I will go ahead and pay my respects once everything passes. I'm more than certain that there will be some idiots doing stupid shit that day.

I will say that I'm still in shock seeing the videos/pictures/reactions of his friends and family. Honestly, his accident has stricken me with fear how anything can go wrong no matter what car or 'skill' you may have. The "invincible" feeling that many get out of the adrenaline is seriously not worth your life. Nonetheless, in public roads.

I did total my first S14 up against a pole in Fontana about 2 years ago for being an idiot, and Paul Walker's accident has left me in shock and as an eye opener that I got lucky to have a second chance. Much respect and credit to Paul for being a true car enthusiast and great guy with a huge heart. Thank you for expanding my love for cars and being someone I looked up to as a kid and still do.

RIP Paul Walker.

[Felipe]

I'm more than certain that there will be some idiots doing stupid shit that day.

Sad, but true :naw:

[mantas]

Sad, but true :naw:

Hondas.....

[Gnnr]

I will go ahead and pay my respects once everything passes. I'm more than certain that there will be some idiots doing stupid shit that day.

Most likely Police will patrol.

Whoever goes pls take pics, that will warm my heart to see the car community to gather like that in his memory.

[Matej]

Most likely Police will patrol.
Giving out fix-it tickets. :)

[LuckyRPS13]

I really did not read through this thread much. I care not to read any hate or jokes. I will say normally I am emotional disconnected to people I do not know personally who pass away. How ever I am upset with his passing, When the first F&F movie came out I had little knowledge that there was any thing that could be done with a 4 cylinder or small non american muscle car. Since then, I watched the scene explode and shrink back down in my area. I have met many good friends. It opened me up to buying my first S13 hatchback once I saved the money up to buy it. Which in all honesty led me to meeting my wife, whom I started a family with. Crazy how a movie can redirect you life.

My regards to Paul's Daughter, I am sure this is a very terrible time for her.

[theronin]

I really did not read through this thread much. I care not to read any hate or jokes. I will say normally I am emotional disconnected to people I do not know personally who pass away. How ever I am upset with his passing, When the first F&F movie came out I had little knowledge that there was any thing that could be done with a 4 cylinder or small non american muscle car. Since then, I watched the scene explode and shrink back down in my area. I have met many good friends. It opened me up to buying my first S13 hatchback once I saved the money up to buy it. Which in all honesty led me to meeting my wife, whom I started a family with. Crazy how a movie can redirect you life.

My regards to Paul's Daughter, I am sure this is a very terrible time for her.

You should read the thread. I'm serious. Read everything that has been said and discuss then post again please.

[LuckyRPS13]

I read through with more than a scanning eye this time. didn't really see any jokes in poor taste, or anything really bad. Good to see every one in the similar boat (car) as me. Still little choked up, I want a tuna sandwich now...

[theronin]

I read through with more than a scanning eye this time. didn't really see any jokes in poor taste, or anything really bad. Good to see every one in the similar boat (car) as me. Still little choked up, I want a tuna sandwich now...

You are in good company here man. Glad you took my advice :)

[Silverbullet]

R.I.P. Paul Walker


I hope they complete Fast 7 to honor him. It's possible they can get a stunt double and use some CGI for certain scenes. I don't see them continuing the franchise after that, but Lucas Black did sign on for three films....

What is funny is typically on a FF opening night, you will have FF fans and just general tuner car kids ricing the streets together to the point where local police recognize the need for additional patroling on those nights.
I forsee a different attitude from the fans for the future opening nights, atleast for the next one. People will be driving in honor of FF/ Walker, rather than goign out and driving out of excitment.

[ineedone]

Surprised everyone is giving Walker a pass on liking to touch super young girls. All really great 30+ yr guys like dating 16yr olds... because that is normal...

[tdaffern]

I'm like most everyone else when they say celebrity deaths don't effect me, but this has been heavy on my heart. The FF movies didn't get me in to car's but I loved the movies. The first one is still the best in my opinion. They seemed to get more cheesey as they went along, but still awesome. Can't get away from the cheese factor in Hollywood. I think his true passion for car's and his generosity is what's making this so difficult for some including myself.

I'm sure some have seen this but ill post a copy of it. Just shows what kind of man he was and not all about his fame.

Tales of Walker’s philanthropy are not new. CNN confirmed one story from a decade ago when Walker noticed a young U.S. soldier shopping with his fiancee for a wedding ring in a Santa Barbara jewelry store.“The groom was just back from duty in Iraq, and he was going to be deployed again soon and wanted to buy a wedding ring, but he said he just could not afford it,” saleswoman Irene King told CNN. “I don’t think the soldier realized how expensive those rings are, about $10,000.”The couple apparently did not know who Walker was, King said.“Walker called the manager over and said, ‘Put that girl’s ring on my tab,’ ” she said. “Walker left all his billing info, and it was a done deal. The couple was stunned. She was thrilled and could not believe someone did this.”King called it “the most generous thing I have ever seen.”Read more:*Fans, father grieve death of ?Fast & Furious? star Paul Walker | WGN-TV (http://wgntv.com/2013/12/02/fans-father-grieve-death-of-fast-furious-star-paul-walker/#ixzz2mW4Km5jZ)

R.I.P. Paul Walker, your passing weighs heavy on more people than I can imagine.

R.I.P Rodger Rodas

[_kouki_monster_]

I feel the same way as most of the rest of you. It was a huge shock its like i lost a friend. The movies are what first got me into imports, and i have had an obsesion ever since!

[!Zar!]

http://i.imgur.com/zjEEMki.jpg

[SimpleS14]

^-- Too soon......

[!Zar!]

I will say this.

I remember a LOT of people disliking Paul Walker and hating how he was helping portray the, 'scene'.

Everyone talked shit about him.

But now I see the same people acting as if he was their next of kin.

Casper Van Dien.

If its not him. He should die anyways.

Or FF lead actor, paul walker.

[gist864]

Well it doesn't bother me when celebs die. Because i don’t know them, but it was FF that got me into cars and why i have went and watch all of them in the movies. It felt like a friend died he just seemed like a generally cool dude. On a lighter note i had my first tuna sandwich Sunday. I don’t know if it was me getting my pregnant wife's cravings or what but i did not cut the crust not my thing.

[ixfxi]

I will say this.
I remember a LOT of people disliking Paul Walker and hating how he was helping portray the, 'scene'.
Everyone talked shit about him.
But now I see the same people acting as if he was their next of kin.

People did not say this about Paul Walker, people said this about the F&F movies. Search through the forum and you'll see plenty of disgust for the F&F films and how they put the spotlight on the 240SX and drifting. A large majority of the newer 240SX owners are guilty of previously owning a modified Honda and switched from FF to FR after seeing Tokyo Drift. Dont blame Paul, blame the films and blame people for being trendy followers.


Fact is I have said it before. Carrera GT's are known for being very dangerousness I'll handling cars. Given this there was definitely driver error involved in underestimating the cars proclivities.

Dave, you are wrong. The Carrera GT does not have this reputation. The car was a limited production supercar, thats the only reason it was made for such a short period. It has nothing to do with stability or safety.

I dont understand why people fail to comprehend that when you drive fast speeds, you risk injury and/or death. Thats how speed works. When you have a gasoline tank near you that is filled with gas, the tank can rupture and in the event of an accident, there are plenty of sparks which can easily ignite the fumes. Thats all it takes.

The only thing thats difficult about the Carrera GT is the clutch, getting the car to move from a stand-still takes some getting used to.


Heard or read somewhere that they were doing about a 100mph (was listening to Q100 I think) and that the tire could have bursted that cause the car to spin and crash.

Yeah, right. A tire thats rated for over 200mph burst at 80, 100, or 120. Doubtful. The owner of the Carrera GT was not a Zilvia member who buys used tires for 25 dollars a piece. Carrera GT uses very specific tires that are designed to handle much higher loads.

Bottom line: too much car, not enough brains + public road. Do the math.

RIP.

[dazed]

I will say this.

I remember a LOT of people disliking Paul Walker and hating how he was helping portray the, 'scene'.

Everyone talked shit about him.

But now I see the same people acting as if he was their next of kin.

What? I don't remember anybody talking shit about how Paul Walker specifically portrayed the 'scene' in a negative way. It was the franchise in general, the movies themselves. Other characters had way cornier and technically-inaccurate lines than ol' Spilner. Whatever though, I wish we could all just enjoy the tuna.

I also just think most people are showing remorse for someone who basically became one of the main icons behind the import scene. I don't see anything wrong with that at all.

Dave, you are wrong. The Carrera GT does not have this reputation. The car was a limited production supercar, thats the only reason it was made for such a short period. It has nothing to do with stability or safety..

I do believe almost all of the time it is driver error coupled with other elements that are behind these fatalities/accidents.

However, Porsche's excuse for not continuing the CGT was because of U.S. airbag laws changing. Whether that's the real reason or not who knows. But they definitely didn't discontinue it just to make it 'limited production'. They had planned more.

Another thing, the CGT doesn't have any form of stability control, unlike most other Porches (911 GT3, etc, etc,). The CGT would be illegal to sell today because of that fact as well.

Porsche has been sued resulting from CGT accidents multiple times. A couple years ago they actually paid out $350,000 in a law-suit to the relative of someone who died on a race track.

So sorry, the CGT does have the reputation of being a car you want to be extra careful with, even compared to similar cars in the 'super car' category.

The dude behind the wheel had some experience too. I don't know too much but apparently he was an ex-professional driver or something. Not 100% on that. But that wasn't my main point.

[conrad_s13.5]

Seemed like a super cool dude,. living the dream, giving back to humanity in more ways than I even know and didnt even expect anything back.

As horrible as some of the F&F movies were, it brought friends and family alike together to go see them on release night anyway and spend the night bullshiting about cars with the people we chose to do so with.... and I appreciate the hell out of that

We would all be so lucky to live such an awesome life

[Felipe]

I'm like most everyone else when they say celebrity deaths don't effect me, but this has been heavy on my heart. The FF movies didn't get me in to car's but I loved the movies. The first one is still the best in my opinion. They seemed to get more cheesey as they went along, but still awesome. Can't get away from the cheese factor in Hollywood. I think his true passion for car's and his generosity is what's making this so difficult for some including myself.

I'm sure some have seen this but ill post a copy of it. Just shows what kind of man he was and not all about his fame.

Tales of Walker’s philanthropy are not new. CNN confirmed one story from a decade ago when Walker noticed a young U.S. soldier shopping with his fiancee for a wedding ring in a Santa Barbara jewelry store.“The groom was just back from duty in Iraq, and he was going to be deployed again soon and wanted to buy a wedding ring, but he said he just could not afford it,” saleswoman Irene King told CNN. “I don’t think the soldier realized how expensive those rings are, about $10,000.”The couple apparently did not know who Walker was, King said.“Walker called the manager over and said, ‘Put that girl’s ring on my tab,’ ” she said. “Walker left all his billing info, and it was a done deal. The couple was stunned. She was thrilled and could not believe someone did this.”King called it “the most generous thing I have ever seen.”Read more:*Fans, father grieve death of ?Fast & Furious? star Paul Walker | WGN-TV (http://wgntv.com/2013/12/02/fans-father-grieve-death-of-fast-furious-star-paul-walker/#ixzz2mW4Km5jZ)

R.I.P. Paul Walker, your passing weighs heavy on more people than I can imagine.

R.I.P Rodger Rodas

Seen this the other day on the local news. That couple lives in riverside.

[sidewaysil80]

Surprised everyone is giving Walker a pass on liking to touch super young girls. All really great 30+ yr guys like dating 16yr olds... because that is normal...

Its legal. Matter of fact in your state 16 is legal age no matter what. Not something I would do but can't fault him...he's within the confines of the law. His girl was emancipated at 16 which makes it legal in California. Again, not my style but I don't see anything wrong with it. Its not like he manipulate her or took advantage, they were together for 7 years and were engaged...

[enkei2k]

http://i.imgur.com/zjEEMki.jpg

I actually watched that movie yesterday and the I thought the exact same thing :hide:

Official tribute video to P dubs.

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[feito]

man, i dont even know what to say zar, how about i wish it was that dumb pos dirty ghetto looking talent-less skank that u have all over your posts that was in that car instead, with all my heart. Put the bieber behind the wheel since you're at it, oh wait, he probably cant drive stick...
And come on guys, we've all liked and wish we could hit a certain 16-17yo underage sometime.

Anyway, this whole thing is giving me the creeps. There was nothing left of that car. Do you guys think that if the car had had a certain rollcage/doorbars the result wouldnt have been as severe?
I had though about getting a rollbar for my 14 now that im upgrading the turbo, but after seeing this i think im definitely getting one, should at least provide some protection during a roll over... Screw the the room in the back.

[LuckyRPS13]

No dinners near me that I know of, so the next best place to get a terrible tuna sandwich, my local subway, woot.

http://i1030.photobucket.com/albums/y363/luckyrps135/IMG_0079.jpg (http://s1030.photobucket.com/user/luckyrps135/media/IMG_0079.jpg.html)

[K_style]

No dinners near me that I know of, so the next best place to get a terrible tuna sandwich, my local subway, woot.



No crust? .

[drift freaq]

Dave, you are wrong. The Carrera GT does not have this reputation. The car was a limited production supercar, thats the only reason it was made for such a short period. It has nothing to do with stability or safety.

I dont understand why people fail to comprehend that when you drive fast speeds, you risk injury and/or death. Thats how speed works. When you have a gasoline tank near you that is filled with gas, the tank can rupture and in the event of an accident, there are plenty of sparks which can easily ignite the fumes. Thats all it takes.

The only thing thats difficult about the Carrera GT is the clutch, getting the car to move from a stand-still takes some getting used to.







Actually Mike it is a fact. It has been stated by owners I have actually talked to. its been stated by reviewers and there are crash statistics to back it up.

Oh and I don't fail too comprehend shit Mike . I know full well there was a lot of driver error and lack of possible judgment involved. Though it does not excuse or eliminate real facts about the car itself. Nor does the cars foibles excuse the driver but it does compound the error.

P.S. Mike while I do respect you, I pay attention to truths I have been told, read and heard. Yours is an opinion I do not agree with.

[kingkilburn]

That's exactly the sort of risk you run when you buy short run and exotic cars. That's like complaining that your Veyron runs through too many tires from cruising at 240mph.

If you want safe and tame go buy a nonturbo Volvo.

[tqstarburst]

Must read.

I thought this was a nice way to edit ff7 and a neat way of ending it.
Thoughts?!

http://i41.tinypic.com/2rw812c.jpg

[JF_OverBoosted]

Must read.

I thought this was a nice way to edit ff7 and a neat way of ending it.
Thoughts?!

http://i41.tinypic.com/2rw812c.jpg

I agree... Just reading that gave me goosebumps.

[SimpleS14]

Don't like that idea at all. They shouldn't write his death into the movie, especially in that fashion. It's almost as if they are glamorizing it IMO. Besides his family probably would want the constant reminder on the big screen.

[acslater9]

Must read.

I thought this was a nice way to edit ff7 and a neat way of ending it.
Thoughts?!

http://i41.tinypic.com/2rw812c.jpg

While that scene is happening they should add November Rain as the background music. Or during the cemetery part.

[ineedone]

Its legal. Matter of fact in your state 16 is legal age no matter what. Not something I would do but can't fault him...he's within the confines of the law. His girl was emancipated at 16 which makes it legal in California. Again, not my style but I don't see anything wrong with it. Its not like he manipulate her or took advantage, they were together for 7 years and were engaged...

... age of consent is 18 buddy. California Statutory Rape FAQ | Sexlaws.org (http://www.sexlaws.org/california_statutory_rape#Q1)

Does not matter whether he manipulated her or not - Legally, she can not give consent. I see a lot of shit wrong with dating someone just a few years older than your teenage daughter. Remember this dude was 33 dating a highschool sophmore.

.
And come on guys, we've all liked and wish we could hit a certain 16-17yo underage sometime.


Nope. Good luck using that as an excuse in your sexual predator episode. I am sure the masses and Chris Hansen will be totally fine with a grown ass man trying to date highschool chicks... I get a 3-4 year difference, still creepy, but a 33 yr old banging out a highschool sophmore... really... think about it that be like you dating a 12 yr old.

Whatever, he made cheesy movies and gave money away so all is forgiven :w00t:

[blueshark123]

What is funny is typically on a FF opening night, you will have FF fans and just general tuner car kids ricing the streets together to the point where local police recognize the need for additional patroling on those nights.
I forsee a different attitude from the fans for the future opening nights, atleast for the next one. People will be driving in honor of FF/ Walker, rather than goign out and driving out of excitment.

:bs: Idiots will be idiots no matter what this sunday there was bunch of meets by me in memory of PW. They still acted like fucking idiots doing burnouts and stupid shit in general even a fucking cop joined in on a burnout. This is why i will never go to meets or unorganized car gatherings, too many damn idiot kids who think they are fucking cool in their shit boxes.

[VNG704]

... age of consent is 18 buddy. California Statutory Rape FAQ | Sexlaws.org (http://www.sexlaws.org/california_statutory_rape#Q1)

Does not matter whether he manipulated her or not - Legally, she can not give consent. I see a lot of shit wrong with dating someone just a few years older than your teenage daughter. Remember this dude was 33 dating a highschool sophmore.



Nope. Good luck using that as an excuse in your sexual predator episode. I am sure the masses and Chris Hansen will be totally fine with a grown ass man trying to date highschool chicks... I get a 3-4 year difference, still creepy, but a 33 yr old banging out a highschool sophmore... really... think about it that be like you dating a 12 yr old.

Whatever, he made cheesy movies and gave money away so all is forgiven :w00t:

"SEX laws" who said they had sex. He's admitted to sleeping around which is why he couldn't marry his daughter's mother. He doesn't need this gf's poon. He gets it anywhere. He could easily just tell her that he's her bf and wait it out until legal age. I'm not saying he didn't mow her lawn, we just don't know.
man, i dont even know what to say zar, how about i wish it was that dumb pos dirty ghetto looking talent-less skank that u have all over your posts that was in that car instead, with all my heart. Put the bieber behind the wheel since you're at it, oh wait, he probably cant drive stick...
And come on guys, we've all liked and wish we could hit a certain 16-17yo underage sometime.

Anyway, this whole thing is giving me the creeps. There was nothing left of that car. Do you guys think that if the car had had a certain rollcage/doorbars the result wouldnt have been as severe?
I had though about getting a rollbar for my 14 now that im upgrading the turbo, but after seeing this i think im definitely getting one, should at least provide some protection during a roll over... Screw the the room in the back.And no feito, all us adults don't want sex with 16 yrs olds.

[!Zar!]

I feel bad for Mr. Walker being as how he didn't really have any control over his death. As for the driver. He should have known better.

man, i dont even know what to say zar, how about i wish it was that dumb pos dirty ghetto looking talent-less skank that u have all over your posts that was in that car instead, with all my heart. Put the bieber behind the wheel since you're at it, oh wait, he probably cant drive stick...

How about you wish you were in that car? Miley is more successful than you'll ever be.

As for the Biebs he has plenty of exotic cars and bikes which he hasn't managed to crash; manual ones.

[mantas]

I feel bad for Mr. Walker being as how he didn't really have any control over his death. As for the driver. He should have known better.



How about you wish you were in that car? Miley is more successful than you'll ever be.

As for the Biebs he has plenty of exotic cars and bikes which he hasn't managed to crash; manual ones.

You are defenfint Miley and Biebs? Really? I think ive seen it all now - on zilvia.

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[!Zar!]

You are defenfint Miley and Biebs? Really? I think ive seen it all now - on zilvia.

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Please use 'defenfint' in a sentence.

[ixfxi]

However, Porsche's excuse for not continuing the CGT was because of U.S. airbag laws changing. Whether that's the real reason or not who knows. But they definitely didn't discontinue it just to make it 'limited production'. They had planned more.

Another thing, the CGT doesn't have any form of stability control, unlike most other Porches (911 GT3, etc, etc,). The CGT would be illegal to sell today because of that fact as well.

Porsche has been sued resulting from CGT accidents multiple times. A couple years ago they actually paid out $350,000 in a law-suit to the relative of someone who died on a race track.

So sorry, the CGT does have the reputation of being a car you want to be extra careful with, even compared to similar cars in the 'super car' category.


Dude, you're just spouting off shit you read off TMZ:
Paul Walker Death -- Porsche's Been Sued Before Over Deadly Carrera GT | TMZ.com (http://www.tmz.com/2013/12/04/paul-walker-death-porsche-carrera-gt-lawsuit-accident-racetrack/)

"For Porsche's part, the company denied liability -- saying the car fully met federal safety standards at the time -- but it still paid its portion of the settlement to avoid further litigation."

To avoid further litigation. No shit. Sue-happy individuals vs Porsche who basically throws in the towel just to shut them the fuck up. $350k? haha dude, this is the equivalent of Porsche saying:
"Yeah, sorry your family member died on the track. We'll refund $350k of your $500k Carrera GT purchase.


Actually Mike it is a fact. It has been stated by owners I have actually talked to. its been stated by reviewers and there are crash statistics to back it up.

P.S. Mike while I do respect you, I pay attention to truths I have been told, read and heard. Yours is an opinion I do not agree with.

Post some proof because I'm calling bullshit on your self-claimed facts.

[HyperTek]

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[mantas]

Please use 'defenfint' in a sentence.

Defending. Figure it out moron. :picardfp:

[simmode1]

... age of consent is 18 buddy. California Statutory Rape FAQ | Sexlaws.org (http://www.sexlaws.org/california_statutory_rape#Q1)

Does not matter whether he manipulated her or not - Legally, she can not give consent. I see a lot of shit wrong with dating someone just a few years older than your teenage daughter. Remember this dude was 33 dating a highschool sophmore.



Nope. Good luck using that as an excuse in your sexual predator episode. I am sure the masses and Chris Hansen will be totally fine with a grown ass man trying to date highschool chicks... I get a 3-4 year difference, still creepy, but a 33 yr old banging out a highschool sophmore... really... think about it that be like you dating a 12 yr old.

Whatever, he made cheesy movies and gave money away so all is forgiven :w00t:
Paul Walker May Have Also Dated 16-Year Old Aubrianna Atwell (http://www.crushable.com/2013/12/05/entertainment/paul-walker-underage-girlfriend-history-aubrianna-atwell-jasmine-pilchard-gosnell/)

The sad reality. I'm not gonna comment on this any further.

[ineedone]

Defending. Figure it out moron. :picardfp:

That is neither "defenfint" nor a sentence.

[ineedone]

Paul Walker May Have Also Dated 16-Year Old Aubrianna Atwell (http://www.crushable.com/2013/12/05/entertainment/paul-walker-underage-girlfriend-history-aubrianna-atwell-jasmine-pilchard-gosnell/)

The sad reality. I'm not gonna comment on this any further.

Makes you wonder why he was so involved in third world countries that are notorious for their exploitation of children... Let that sink in for a bit.

[zerodameaon]

Defending. Figure it out moron. :picardfp:

Wait are you really attacking him for pointing out your typo/word you made up thinking it was real?

[slamburger]

Here is a lil write up on the CGT.

Porsche That Paul Walker Died In 'Dangerous,' 'Needs Respect' (http://jalopnik.com/porsche-that-killed-paul-walker-dangerous-needs-res-1474240192)

[conrad_s13.5]

Makes you wonder why he was so involved in third world countries that are notorious for their exploitation of children... Let that sink in for a bit.
oh you know,.. Natural Disasters

[dazed]

Dude, you're just spouting off shit you read off TMZ

While I'm glad to see you did your research, including scanning TMZ, that information is all located else-ware. I read all of that in print, not internet and it wasn't recently.

But I see you disregarded everything said and just asked for more proof. im done

[STR8 H8N]

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[Felipe]

Sad............

[!Zar!]

The cars are only dangerous if you drive them like an idiot.

I've seen a bunch of dickheads with Carrera GTs who couldn't event change a tire on their own rolling around and they are still fine.

Shoot, I was rolling around in a Porsche 930 when I was 16 and I'm still alive.

[ixfxi]

While I'm glad to see you did your research, including scanning TMZ, that information is all located else-ware. I read all of that in print, not internet and it wasn't recently.
But I see you disregarded everything said and just asked for more proof. im done

Thats correct. Unless you've got facts, then I have no interest in your opinions.

Listen, I dont even know or care about Walker. I dont wish death on anyone, but this is overblown hype much like how everyone went out of their way to cry about Michael Jackson when for years/decades people were talking shit. People love to talk shit about you when you're alive and successful, then are quick to suck your nuts when you're dead.

And now what, we have threads like this where people talk about how a car is unsafe - when there was absolutely no discussion of this in the past. Jay Leno spun his CGT out years ago, no one cared. All of a sudden, people care.


The cars are only dangerous if you drive them like an idiot.
I've seen a bunch of dickheads with Carrera GTs who couldn't event change a tire on their own rolling around and they are still fine.
Shoot, I was rolling around in a Porsche 930 when I was 16 and I'm still alive.

^ Agreed. And thats my point. The only reason this is an issue is because we have a set of circumstances where someone fucked up, and fucked up bad. If Paul was in a 240SX, what would people start doing... complaining about the S-chassis and how its unsafe and doesnt have traction control? Cry me a fucking river. I can expect discussion like this on a new forum, but not Zilvia. We should all be well-aware of what it means to drive a piece of shit car with no supplements because they did not exist back then and we are all used to this.

My friend and I drove around a CGT for a bit, we never lost control, split the car in half, or combust into a ball of flames. We were plenty young and stupid at the time, but not stupid enough to try shit like that on the streets. And trust me, we've done our share of stupidities.

If this doesnt show how stable the car is, I dont know what will:
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[EDacIouSX]

Yea the bottom line is that Rodas was speeding ridiculously fast. Maybe he lost control, maybe there was mechanical failure but the bottom line is he was being stupid. No way would someone driving 40-60 mph slam into a pole and do that much damage on that street. based on the damage alone that car had to hit that pole at least at 75mph IMO.

It's sad to see Paul Walker go though, yea maybe he was a pedo man whore but he still was a really nice human being to fellow enthusiasts.

[SharkBite]

A Tribute to Paul Walker - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8UCI7r1Aqw)

good tribute. makes you get the chills when they slow down and dom speaks.

[feito]

How about you wish you were in that car? Miley is more successful than you'll ever be.

As for the Biebs he has plenty of exotic cars and bikes which he hasn't managed to crash; manual ones.
hahahaha, oh damn!!!! U really are on her side ha? I thought that sig and avatar was just some kind of trolling Hahahahaha, and here i was thinking that only little wannabe rebels boys and girls could like that trash or even stand her haaaaahaha, damn. Yeah, you're right, she's more successful than I'll ever be, better and more talented than me, actually, make than than anybody in this forums, i freaking doubt it haha. Hey, here's my favorite picture of her, u know, in case u wanna add it to your sig:
http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Miley+Cyrus+Backstage+MTV+Video+Music+Awards+fMB5g wxahoxl.jpg Did that little girl just ate something really spicy and she's begging for water? Oh wait, that's miley trying to be sexy, lol, even the guy next to her can smell her dirtiness.

Back to the topic. Yes, bottom line is they shouldnt have been doing what they were doing where they were doing it, but they played and they payed the price, and u can't blamed that in the car. Maybe the only difference the car would have made is the speed they were doing when they crashed, had it been a 240 maybe they would have lost control at 80mph, crashed and died, or on a veyron (im not big on exotics, im assuming it might be faster than the carrera) it would had happen at 180mph, who knows. But the guy was to a certain point a good person, gave more than we will ever give or even want to give, and was a huge figure in our community, so my respects.

So I'll ask again, does anybody think that if the car had been equiped with some sort of cage the outcome would have been different?

[conrad_s13.5]

Depends on the cage i guess, but i doubt it.

Being as they were just going for a lap and back,.. blunt head trauma would have played a major factor....im assuming.

....or who knows maybe they would have been a little more cautious for that very reason. Maybe a fuckin rabbit ran acrossed the road, or the driver just made a mistake any of us could have made 1/1000 times.

I think the fact that they aren't here to tell us, is why everyones trying to blame it on something.

[spooled240]

Yea the bottom line is that Rodas was speeding ridiculously fast. Maybe he lost control, maybe there was mechanical failure but the bottom line is he was being stupid. No way would someone driving 40-60 mph slam into a pole and do that much damage on that street. based on the damage alone that car had to hit that pole at least at 75mph IMO.

It's sad to see Paul Walker go though, yea maybe he was a pedo man whore but he still was a really nice human being to fellow enthusiasts.

well said.

[VNG704]

No one knows nor will anyone ever. Even the pros are saying possible mechanical failure. which would explain lack of skid marks and it going up in flames. All guesses.

[!Zar!]

blahblahblah
Please stop crying.


So I'll ask again, does anybody think that if the car had been equipped with some sort of cage the outcome would have been different?

A cage is made for shunts and rollovers. Not slamming in to inanimate objects.

It's not the crash that kills most people. It's the sudden stop.

[Gnnr]

Well, in typical Zilvia fashion this thread went to complete shit.

[tdaffern]

Well, in typical Zilvia fashion this thread went to complete shit.

:werd: Everything turns into an argument. Even a thread on a tragic death turns into a slap fight.

[feito]

edit:
Removed pic 'cause it's too graphic and disrespectful, sorry. Here's a link to that image and some of the latest news, man the more i find out the worse i feel about about them:

http://beforeitsnews.com/celebrities/2013/12/paul-walker-autopsy-and-death-photos-graphic-images-and-video-2453422.html

[simmode1]

Awwww man I really did not want to see that. No sir.

Fuck. Can you maybe take the pic down & post a link instead instead some ppl may not want to see charred bodies?

[s13mikesr20]

fuck that sucks no one should be put threw this as for miley cyris.....should find a flight of stairs and fall down the head first into a bath of lemon juiced glass laced with rattle snake venom.....

paul walker was a legend and will be forever missed

[Felipe]

I think thats was roger -.-

[!Zar!]

fuck that sucks no one should be put threw this as for miley cyris.....should find a flight of stairs and fall down the head first into a bath of lemon juiced glass laced with rattle snake venom.....

paul walker was a legend and will be forever missed

Are you drunk?

Please read back what you typed. And it's CYRUS. For pete's sake, it's right there in front of you.

[Frank_Jaeger]

Are you drunk?

Please read back what you typed. And it's CYRUS. For pete's sake, it's right there in front of you.
One day when I grow up, I want to be a troll just like you.

[mantas]

One day when I grow up, I want to be a troll just like you.

And live under a bridge?

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[zerodameaon]

And live under a bridge?


That could also be called a homeless person.

[yetijeff]

That's gotta be the most fucked up way to go. I wouldn't wish that death on anyone...

[future]

Anybody at that meet today? The real skyline from f2f, fast 4 and the escort are there. Along with a replica supra from the first film. Universal brought them out to show respect

[feito]

found this pic on the meet's fb page. Guys from the Texas Charger Car Club making the trip to cali for Paul Walker and Roger Rodas memorial/meet. MAD RESPECT, should I remind you these arent imports?
I cannot say that I'd make it for sure, but if my car was up and running I'd consider the trip myself.

https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1475959_596524500413166_1721035449_n.jpg

[Felipe]

found this pic on the meet's fb page. Guys from the Texas Charger Car Club making the trip to cali for Paul Walker and Roger Rodas memorial/meet. MAD RESPECT, should I remind you these arent imports?
I cannot say that I'd make it for sure, but if my car was up and running I'd consider the trip myself.

https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1475959_596524500413166_1721035449_n.jpg

In brazil....
Cr993PXmkOE

[upsdude]

around 9:45AM I saw a bunch of lowered civics on the 210 west this morning while i was driving to the Long beach motorcycle show...i'm assuming they were heading to that memorial. it was also on the news-the city was expecting a ton of people. hopefully no one was stupid enough to do any burnouts or anything like that?

[Felipe]

Maybe some reving and people taking silencers/cats off...

[tdaffern]

In brazil....
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Cr993PXmkOE&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DCr993PXmkOE

This is awesome.

[One_love_silvia]

i went to the memorial today. it was pretty awesome. everyone except 1 tool who did a burn out in an f150 (then got pulled over) was very respectful. there was TONS of pictures, flowers, candles, ect. at the crash site in honor of the two.

unfortunately walmart being the dickbags they are, had a bunch of cars towed out of their massive parking lot, even though there was still TONS of room left. cost one guy almost $500 to get it out of the tow yard. pricks.

also, there was estimated to be around 6000+ people that showed up throughout the day. some coming from AZ, sacramento, texas, and one guy even from pennsylvania.

[Felipe]

unfortunately walmart being the dickbags they are, had a bunch of cars towed out of their massive parking lot, even though there was still TONS of room left. cost one guy almost $500 to get it out of the tow

They gonna burn that place down lol

[zerodameaon]

It made the news up here and the chief of police put it out that no one made a effort to even warn them something like this was going down, they found out the day before from an employee. I'm surprised that did not get it shut down.

[One_love_silvia]

It made the news up here and the chief of police put it out that no one made a effort to even warn them something like this was going down, they found out the day before from an employee. I'm surprised that did not get it shut down.

still fucked up. there wasn't even that many cars parked in there. people are trying to mourn for a loss, and walmart is forcing them to pay 500$ to get their cars back. most people weren't even from the area, and alot were out of state.

i understand where they're coming from, but i can almost guarantee alot of those people would have gone inside and bought a drink on their way back. it was fuckin hot and a long ass walk.

[zerodameaon]

That was all Walmart not the PD, the PD once they found out supported the event, and it also seems they did most of the planning for traffic flow and all that.

[One_love_silvia]

That was all Walmart not the PD, the PD once they found out supported the event, and it also seems they did most of the planning for traffic flow and all that.

that's who i'm talking about. i was extremely happy about the PD being there and how they handled it. extremely respectful of everyone there, and helped keep people in check. +10000 for the SCPD

edit: oh were you talkin about the PD? I thought you were talkin about walmart haha

[VegasDrifterS13]

So I'll ask again, does anybody think that if the car had been equiped with some sort of cage the outcome would have been different?[/QUOTE]

If there were a cage in that car, the only way it would have made a difference is Vegetable VS Death. An Endurance Circuit or Nascar Tube chassis may have helped them Live But that was a violent Crash. Very Bad Damage.

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[zerodameaon]

The car split in half by the looks of things, I doubt it would have done much.

[mechanicalmoron]

The car split in half by the looks of things, I doubt it would have done much.

Not to mention that it was about a foot and a half tall at the end.

[jamg]

supercars with mid engines usually split in half in a time of an accident. you don't even have to be going 50MPH and your car will be sliced in half.

also, this car IS difficult to handle.

top gear's Stig had to run it on the track multiple times before finally completing a lap without spinning out. F1 drivers have the best skill in the business, and even he couldn't handle the car.
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http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_gryRbyQ-ZYs/TDww3gDzOUI/AAAAAAAAAG8/770y45gmUpM/s1600/DSC02258.JPG

[TwelveAM]

If anyone went on here, mind posting some pics?

[mechanicalmoron]

supercars with mid engines usually split in half in a time of an accident. you don't even have to be going 50MPH and your car will be sliced in half.

also, this car IS difficult to handle.

top gear's Stig had to run it on the track multiple times before finally completing a lap without spinning out. F1 drivers have the best skill in the business, and even he couldn't handle the car.
vE_WqdKbTvY

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_gryRbyQ-ZYs/TDww3gDzOUI/AAAAAAAAAG8/770y45gmUpM/s1600/DSC02258.JPG

Yeah, that earlier video of the guy "drifting" one was just one close call after the next.... though he's a remarkable driver.

When a mid/rear engine car starts spinning, centrifugal force whips the heavy engine around, and accelerates the spin, it's not like a front (or mid, in the sense of front mid) engine car, where the light end is pivoting around the motor, and has less mechanical advantage to cause a spin. Instead of breaking away gradually, they hang on until the end, but then lose it hard.

Youtube is full of videos of people demonstraiting exactly what goes wrong with mid/rear engine cars, there's no room for error or recovery. And the carerra gt is especially well known for being a bad one.

[Hardie]

Yeah this kinda happened in Perth lol

No Cookies | Perth Now (http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western-australia/hoons-fined-by-wa-police-at-perth-paul-walker-tribute-cruise/story-fnhocxo3-1226777734547)

For a good cause but kinda went wrong.

[mechanicalmoron]

Yeah this kinda happened in Perth lol

No Cookies | Perth Now (http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western-australia/hoons-fined-by-wa-police-at-perth-paul-walker-tribute-cruise/story-fnhocxo3-1226777734547)

For a good cause but kinda went wrong.

While it's obviously generally douchey for several reasons, I can't really make myself have a problem with obnoxiously flashy cars doing douchey burnouts, in honor of mr. fast and the furious himself.

needs more vinyl and neon underglow.:w00t:

[STR8 H8N]

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[97nismo]

so who is the dick that stole the carbon roof....from the tow truck

[SimpleS14]

so who is the dick that stole the carbon roof....from the tow truck


Man Posts Stolen Part From Paul Walker Wreck Online, Gets Busted (http://oppositelock.jalopnik.com/man-posts-stolen-piece-of-paul-walkers-car-online-get-1477892872)


Pretty stupid IMO

[conrad_s13.5]

People are awesome!

Cool to hear and see about the memorials

[spooled240]

I went to the meet yesterday and it was pretty relaxing other than the traffic/parking situation. If you didn't mind a longer walk, there was ample parking along the street.

PD was very chill and cooperative. Only time I saw them regulate was when some bikers did a burnout at a stoplight, which was expected.

[spooled240]

Man Posts Stolen Part From Paul Walker Wreck Online, Gets Busted (http://oppositelock.jalopnik.com/man-posts-stolen-piece-of-paul-walkers-car-online-get-1477892872)


Pretty stupid IMO

Witty was apparently not very witty lol

[PeaceOnesxWai]

^Yea, glad people were more respectful at the memorial meet.

Didnt snap much but this was from yesterday. The amount of people there was pretty touching.

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g25/aznnoodleboi/photo2_zpsafa847ea.jpg

Also left him a gift, rip it up in heaven bro!
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g25/aznnoodleboi/photo11_zps5d5ebaea.jpg

also R34s we saw as we walked to the memorial. No hassle from cops, they all know why we are there.

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g25/aznnoodleboi/photo22_zpscb23bd32.jpg
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g25/aznnoodleboi/photo31_zps80a26060.jpg
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g25/aznnoodleboi/photo41_zpsffe2ed50.jpg

[Scope240sx]

^ thats really cool man, looks like I missed out
I would have been there if not for work!

[Felipe]

BVOiT9P08-c

Wish i was there

[zspeedrft]

^^^ dope video man

[Hardie]

While it's obviously generally douchey for several reasons, I can't really make myself have a problem with obnoxiously flashy cars doing douchey burnouts, in honor of mr. fast and the furious himself.

needs more vinyl and neon underglow.:w00t:

Apparently caused three car accidents and sent one girl to hospital with serious injuries :/

[SharkBite]

So I'll ask again, does anybody think that if the car had been equiped with some sort of cage the outcome would have been different?

If there were a cage in that car, the only way it would have made a difference is Vegetable VS Death. An Endurance Circuit or Nascar Tube chassis may have helped them Live But that was a violent Crash. Very Bad Damage.

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Not true. Cages save lives. Strapped in they would have had a hell of a lot more chance then that. Fire is fire and that's a issue to deal with in itself. I could post numerous videos of trucks in the offroad world that have hit some serious g forces going end over end. I know of two trucks personally that are driven by a friends tt team that have nose dived and landed flat on their lid and back over and kept going with minimal damage at 65mph +. Its all in how you build it.

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[VegasDrifterS13]

If there were a cage in that car, the only way it would have made a difference is Vegetable VS Death. An Endurance Circuit or Nascar Tube chassis may have helped them Live But that was a violent Crash. Very Bad Damage.

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Not true. Cages save lives. Strapped in they would have had a hell of a lot more chance then that. Fire is fire and that's a issue to deal with in itself. I could post numerous videos of trucks in the offroad world that have hit some serious g forces going end over end. I know of two trucks personally that are driven by a friends tt team that have nose dived and landed flat on their lid and back over and kept going with minimal damage at 65mph +. Its all in how you build it.

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Yes. Trophy trucks, pro 2, pro 4, truggies, etc. Those have near indestructable cages.

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