View Full Version : Engine Swap to inline 6 from silvia
TooLpv
11-11-2001, 12:31 PM
I was just wondering if it is possible to swap out the ka engine of the 240sx or the sr20det engine of the silvia and put in a skyline rb26dett inline 6. Would this work? Is there room? If it is possoble, how much would need to be done. And if it doesnt work, what other engines fit in place of the ka and sr?
S13Grl
11-11-2001, 12:42 PM
A shop called "unstable hybrids" (their owner is a member @ zilvia) does it. I'm not sure what is the cost, but it can definitely be done.
I've heard of the VB30DETT swap, but it was ridiculously expensive and done once only, I believe. Not sure though.
BlankFlip
11-11-2001, 01:25 PM
he also said he was gonna drop the rb26dett in a 240 in the future, i'm sure he'll post on it here. in my opinion, these r the best for our cars if u want it to handle well still, ca18det, ka24det, sr20det, and rb20det.
the price for an rb26 in a 240 would be at least 15 grand, plus the weight distribution would be way off and you would lose the near perfect handling characteristics of the 240. but it would go pretty fast in a straight line but not nearly fast enough for 15 grand.
S13Grl
11-11-2001, 01:33 PM
I second that, it's awesome straight-line, but definitely not for slalom or auto-x.
I can't believe i forgot to mention CA18DET.
ca18guy
11-11-2001, 03:58 PM
Forget the RB26DETT the cost would destroy you. Get a chevy small block and cram it in there. Anyone have a link to a V8 240SX? That would be a real sleeper <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> You could cram it close to the firewall so it would'nt effect the handling that bad, and the money you would save from not getting the RB would easily get you into some insane HP with a V8. HHMMMM I can dream.
KoukiS14
11-11-2001, 04:46 PM
Surrrrre. . but zero reliability. . I got a Nissan for a good reason. =)
Jason?! You're on zilvia.net? How's Heather's RB swap treating her? =)
-Rob (from Indiana hehe)
ca18guy
11-11-2001, 05:14 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from KoukiS14 on 4:46 pm on Nov. 11, 2001
Surrrrre. . but zero reliability. . I got a Nissan for a good reason. =)
-Rob (from Indiana hehe)</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
0% reliabilty out of a V8? No I think you've been around import's to long. I love my import's but lets be realistic, what would be more reliable a 450HP/450lbs-ft small block or a SR20DET with 450HP and lesser torque. As much as I love the SR the V8 wins out. The workmanship of the interior and bodies of Americain cars might be shoddy but the engine's are not crap. Oh well never mind me, i'm just rambling <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>
BlankFlip
11-11-2001, 05:20 PM
i can c where ur coming from, but as of now, i like the feel of my 4.
KoukiS14
11-11-2001, 05:28 PM
I know.. I know... domestic V8s are the best engines ever made, etc etc.. =)
I just don't like american cars.. period. I WANT to, I mean.. I'm not the most unpatriotic guy around... We make a lot of good things, just not cars and beer, IMO =)
Too many bad experiences with domestics I guess...
-Rob
ca18guy
11-11-2001, 05:32 PM
Anyway the point of me bring up the V8 is I would rather go that route then the $kyline engine, thats the point i was trying to get across.
chickenmanq
11-11-2001, 05:39 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from ca18guy on 5:14 pm on Nov. 11, 2001
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from KoukiS14 on 4:46 pm on Nov. 11, 2001
Surrrrre. . but zero reliability. . I got a Nissan for a good reason. =)
-Rob (from Indiana hehe)</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Yeah, I totally agree. While I love owning Japanese cars, a 350 V8 is about the most reliable thing in the world, provided you don't run ungodly compression and make700 horses out of it. If I had the money, I would probably do that to my D21. However, I would also have another souped-up D21 just so I could say, "Yeah, I kicked your ass with a 4 cylinder." I might point out that American auto trannys lead the field. Ford's C6 is one of the most highly modified, being more of a race tranny in stock form than any Japanese version. Also, did anyone catch the blurb in Road and Track about Audi's new transmission? Really cool.
And just so you won't hate me for the above statements, yes 4-cylinder Japanese are the best 4's in the world. I have yet to see an American 4-cylinder I'd want more.
0% reliabilty out of a V8? No I think you've been around import's to long. I love my import's but lets be realistic, what would be more reliable a 450HP/450lbs-ft small block or a SR20DET with 450HP and lesser torque. As much as I love the SR the V8 wins out. The workmanship of the interior and bodies of Americain cars might be shoddy but the engine's are not crap. Oh well never mind me, i'm just rambling <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>
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chickenmanq
11-11-2001, 05:41 PM
Okay, that quote got messed up. I was trying to use Cal18guy's quote which appears after MY ramblings. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>
BlankFlip
11-11-2001, 05:42 PM
woah, i was just about to say "nice job w/ the quotes" <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>
ca18guy
11-11-2001, 05:42 PM
That's pretty good chicken <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>
chickenmanq
11-11-2001, 06:23 PM
Yeah, every so often I wish I had the big-block rumble underneath my hood. I beat a full drag 69 Camaro today. (Only probably was he wasn't even trying. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>
burgy240
11-11-2001, 09:18 PM
I love my import(or I wouldn't be in this forum) but a 350 could quite possibly be one the best street engines ever. I totally agree with chickenman about the four bangers though. No 4 banger better than J specs.
uhjburke
11-12-2001, 07:59 PM
Until you have actually rode in or driven the RB powered 240SX, you can't possible even begin to describe it. Anyone that tells you that its heavy is actually wrong, we added a grand total of 60lbs to the car that we did the RB20DET on, we removed a KA and automatic, and added RB and 5 speed, car weighted 2800lbs full interior, and at 14psi runs a respectable 105mph trap speed, so ET's in the 13's, thats very similar to another 2.0 I know of.
Also the belief that the car will understeer, another "assumption", we have plenty of accounts from others that know its very neutral in the way it behaves....car was absolutely amazing when we put a set of coil overs on it and autocrossed it, it even placed in a Atlanta regional auto cross event first time out in street mod.....with the drive(Tony Schultz) never been in it, he won STS class in his S-14 this year....so it does drive very nice.
I personally am finishing up on my 92 Covertible Silvia conversion, and I will have a RB20 or RB25DET in it when I'm done, the RB to me is most fun I've ever had driving a turbocharged 240SX, regardless of power, just pure feel and refinment sells me completely.....but living it is the only way you could feel this way.....my words can't even come close to it.....
jb
BlankFlip
11-12-2001, 09:38 PM
"....my words can't even come close to it....." i know how ya feel man <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>
s15dude
11-13-2001, 12:23 AM
How much would a RB20DET cost and would you have to modify the 240 for it to fit or does it bolt right in with a kit or something?
240sx Silvia
11-13-2001, 08:28 AM
ugh.. think of all the mods you could buy for an SR20DET with the 15 grand ou'd pay for that motor lol.
BlankFlip
11-13-2001, 08:36 AM
15 grand? the rb20det doesn't run that high. it's $6800 through unstable-hybrids for everything like gauges, 300zx tt fuel pump, blow off valve, all that good stuff. n if u can do the work urself, u could save $2300. my ka only has like 21k miles on it now, but by the time i'd have enough money for a turbo kit, it would probably be better to do the rb20det swap, i really hope that i can do it in the future.
S13Grl
11-13-2001, 09:33 AM
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