seller beware: really bad scam

[Kaido-Sports_com]

Thanks for the information of the item , the price
and condition is okay by me and ready to
purchase asap, i will offer you $1,300.
and i will need the recent picture so that i
can know what i amactually purchasing,i want you to
delete the ad from the website, i have a reputable
shipper that will take care of
shipping from your end and i want to let you know i
have an associate in the u.k that is oweing me a
sum of $4,500 i will instruct him to issue you a cashier check
on my behalf for that
amount and as soon as check arrives, you hold out
your amount and send the difference to my shipper in
the united kingdom for the pick up in your location, i hope i
cantrust you with my balance and also you will be
contacting my shipper with all neccesary information
needed for pick up in your place i.e theactual
weight and exact dimension of the item. if this
terms are okayby you, do get back to me with the
following details like this :-Home Address... Full
Name on cheque... State... Zipcode... Country...
Telephone Number... Mobilephone number... Do get
back to me asap with this details for payment to be
made outto you immediately. Waiting to hearingfrom
you God Bless
mac

[email protected]

[dvdevo]

some guy did that to me for my kyb agx on a local ad posting site.. =\ pretty weird.

[Andrew Bohan]

that scam's been goin around for a while now.

[AN89HATCH]

some guy also tryed that scam on me when I was selling one of my cars :rl:

[airsoft]

i i, i, still don't get it...someone break it down for me !!! thanks, in debt to all who explain, airsoft

[boro240]

http://personal.stevens.edu/~achadzyn/powerbook/

*edit: link fixed

[Ghettokracker71]

I am missing something here too ??? Boro240,your link is...well,a POS (like your name:))

[psidriven]

i've had six different offers from "overseas business" with customers interested in my car try that scam on me. even had one mail the check. i know people are greedy and want the cash, but come on, this scam is getting old.

[Bliss]

wtf kinda scam is that? im with airsoft...i fail to see how someone can make something off of you..?

[Andrew Bohan]

money laundering and you get involved

[Salty_X]

Basically, the overseas people get in touch with you wanting to buy something from you. They then make up some crap like, "oh this guy over here owes me X amount of money (which is usually a lot more than what they plan to pay for your product), I'll have him send the money directly to you, and you send me the product and the difference between the check/money order and the price of the product."

Of course, it's not a scam unless there's trickery and deceit involved, and this is where that comes in: Whatever form of payment they send you, be it a cashier's check or money order (something that is usually considered as good as cash, but not really cash), is FAKE/FORGED!!

They do this stupid, gay crap in hopes that their mark (that would be you) deposits the check/mo, withdraws the difference, and sends the product and money back to their home country before the bank informs the mark that the check was a fake and that they must give the money back. Unfortunately, by this time it's too late for you, because the people are in another country (usually one with a low/zero likelihood of punishment) with your money and your shit!

[Go Dog Go]

are there really people ignorant enough to send products/money etc to others before a check has cleared? :ugh:

[SimpleS14]

wow....thanks for letting me know...glad I read this thread. I had like four people doing that to me right now as I'm trying to sell my car. One guy begged me to take my car off autotrader....of course I'm not that fucking stupid. I will call the people that are interested once I fix some bits.....this of course...is the reason why I let this go on for so long.


THANKS AGAIN

[Salty_X]

are there really people ignorant enough to send products/money etc to others before a check has cleared? :ugh:
I'm sure there are some, but it seems like the majority of the time the scammers use cashiers checks and money orders, which are usually considered to be as good as money, because they are backed with cash. Of course that is not the case with fake cashiers checks or fake money orders, so people that are easily trusting get suckered and end up owing the bank a considerable sum of money as well as losing their product.

[rps13sh]

i got a simular email from another guy for my craigslist post for my s14 gab setup.

[SimpleS14]

yea....my first e-mail was some guy that vacated to Holland for a honey moon. I was like "ok"...but then oddly enough 15mins later I get another e-mail from this guy using a yahoo.co.uk account. I ask them both why they want the car without inspecting it and what are their plans. They completely ignore them and said "I will mail you a cashier's check and you contact my shipper to send the car". THEN...I got another guy that has just left the country but has some clients that can mail me a check...so I started freaking out. THEN I got another mofo that told me he has sent me a check and I should e-mail him ASAP when I get it....but this guy never told me the amount...nor why he wants my car. I decided to ditch these four people and just get intouch with some REAL buyers for my car.

What should I do if I get a fake cashier's check/money order?

[nokeone]

take it to a bank to inspect...if it's fake notify the authorities...save all info on where it came from...

this just happened to me as well...lol...i didn't think it was a scam..cause they never said anything about a 3rd party sending me money...just that they wanted to me remove the ad for my 510...that they wanted it...they lived in illinois...wanted all my info on where to send the check and to calculate shipping..didn't need to see it in person first...i would contacted by the shipper...blah blah...i already sold it to someone else..lol..we'll see if they still send the money...:D

[mjjstang]

ya gotta look at what hes tellin you, if he cant summarize how hes going to pay in about 2 lines, hes scamming you. I will pay you this much and then you send me the item. 13 words it took me, this guy is giving you the runaround deal. I almost got scammed before by overseas guys selling suzuki motorcycles cause their brother died, if anything he died of laughter from the last guy that fell into the deal. people are dumb as shit and if you fall into the scam searves you right, I did a lil research and found out that his only form of payment accepted (western union) is not liable for a dime if you get scammed, thats why they want to use western union. your scam is different but still has a lot of similarities w overseas and that shit.

[rps13sh]

copy and pasted my mail...

Thanks for the mail i will buy it.Payment will be made via a cachiers
check of $2750 by a client of mine in the state an amount oweing, so he
said it can only be issued on a single check and it can be cashed at
any local outlets in your area.All i need from you is your full name and
address including phone number so i can fax it to my client. Pickup
arrangement will be made by my shipper, so as soon as you recieve payment
you will deduct your actual amount and extra $120 for wiring the rest
of the funs to my shipper via western union money transfer who will be
at your location for the pick up. confirm this and get back to me with
neccessary details. I await your response
mr lucas.

----- Original Message -----
From: "C.Y. Lee" <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 11:28:30 -0700
To: "lucas77 david" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: S14 Gab Adjustable & Eibach Pro Kits - $550

> they've only been on the car for less than 5000 miles, work great, no leaks,
> fully adjustable (8 way in rear, 4 way in front) in perfect condition. if
> you can pick it up this week im willing to let it go for $520 cash/picked
> up.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "lucas77 david" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2004 5:34 AM
> Subject: S14 Gab Adjustable & Eibach Pro Kits - $550
>
>
> > l Saw your advert and am highly interested in buying it, kindly get
> > back to me with your last offering price and the present condition of the
> > above mentioned item.
> > Thanks.
> > Mr lucas.
> >
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[SimpleS14]

OMG....I JUST GOT THE FAKE CASHIER'S CHECK IN THE MAIL!!! :D

WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK I SHOULD DO?

The guy sent the check via FedEx to track it....and once I got it...I've been whored with e-mails asking me to cash the check and send the excess to his shipper. Then I got another weird ass address on one of his e-mails...

From: daniel holmes <[email protected]>
Date: Monday, May 31, 2004 12:59 pm
Subject: Re: HAVE SENT THE PAYMENT

>
> Hello
>
> Sorry for the late delivery and thanks for the patience, you
> will be getting the check tomorrow via fedex courier service, pls
> as soon as you do pls cash it immediately and send the excess of
> the funds to the shipper he is presently in Africa but promise to
> leave for your place as soon as he gets the funds, you can kindly
> send the funds to him at any of the westernunion location close
> to you, hence you can deduct all the neccessary charges used in
> transfering the funds to the shipper out of the excess funds. Pls
> kindly do that as soon as you get payment so the shipper can
> leave for your place for the organising of pickup and change of
> name on Title. The name and Address to send the money is as
> written below.
>
> MANAGER OF OPERATIONS
> AIR-WAVE SHIPPING &CONSULTANCY
>
>
> DORMAN DOUGLAS
> 23/ 25 WASH CRESCENT
> APAETE, IBADAN
> 23402, NIGERIA
>
> Pls email me with the info below as soon as the money is sent.
>
> 1. 10 digit control number given to you at the moneygram location.
> 2. Amount sent after deduction of transfer charges
> 3 .Test question and answer given
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Dan


If I didn't know about this scam...I still wouldn't have gone with it. Mainly because I've seen something like this happen elsewhere...the Nigera part just threw a red flag.



What should I do?.......I'm thinking about fucking around with this guy.

[smellslikecurry]

report it asap, u dont want someone claiming u stole their money or something which will get u in trouble, if i were u id take it to a bank and ask them what to do about it, maybe to the cops or even some kind of higher authority (fbi or cia) haha but i dont know how easy that wud be

[SimpleS14]

FBI? CIA? haha....well...I have an account with Navy Federal...so I will be going over there ASAP and see what they can do about it. I highly doubt they will say I stole their money...since the shit is obviously fake.