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Tuck&Poke
11-14-2001, 08:11 PM
ok look i just wanted to know why 5 lugs are better than 4.  im refering to the diference in the base and se models.  what is the benifit?

BlankFlip
11-14-2001, 08:18 PM
just my opinion really quick since i'm looking for new rims n tires at the moment. all the rims i like r all in 5 lug config., n i like them because of the style n becuase of how wide they r. there r a lot of wider 5 lug rims than there r 4 lug for our car. i really want some 16 X 8's all around, but that's hard for me to find. i'll c 17 X 7.5 the most, but i don't want 17's really all that much.

Tuck&Poke
11-14-2001, 08:20 PM
yea i know which is why i wanna know why 5 lug is better than 4 why 6 is better than five why 8 is better than six.  whats the benefit.  btw what rims are you looking at,  i wanna get the konig imagines in opal

BlankFlip
11-14-2001, 08:25 PM
i wanted those nippon racing mongoose rims in gun metal on rollhard.com, but they haven't replied back to me in like 2 weeks or so now. nebody else had a problem w/ them responding to emails? the reason why i wrote them was cuz the rims/tires were on their opening page, but then it was gone n i couldn't find it newhere else on the site, they must've sold out....i think. i'm just gonna order some through my shop n end up waiting 2 months for them to come in.

LanceS13
11-14-2001, 11:01 PM
If you think about it, those 16 (4 lug) bolts are supporting the entire weight of the car plus other various forces.  If you have 20 bolts (5 lug) each bolts 'job' gets like 20-25% easier.  The more bolts, the less stress each individual bolt is submitted to and the less likely you'll have equipment failure under harsh conditions (racing).  That's the only technical reason I can think of.  Other than that, it's just you have a larger selection of rims to choose from if you have 5 lug.

11-14-2001, 11:38 PM
The reason I prefer 5 lug to 4 is because of the brake setup.  instead of having to get the 300z rotors drilled you just stick them on.

Rcs476
11-15-2001, 10:12 AM
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If you think about it, those 16 (4 lug) bolts are supporting the entire weight of the car plus other various forces. If you have 20 bolts (5 lug) each bolts 'job' gets like 20-25% easier. The more bolts, the less stress each individual bolt is submitted to and the less likely you'll have equipment failure under harsh conditions (racing). That's the only technical reason I can think of. Other than that, it's just you have a larger selection of rims to choose from if you have 5 lug.
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Wouldn't the fifth lug just take 5% of the duty off each of the other 4 lugs? 25% x 4 as opposed to 20% x 5 . I think the only real difference is rim options/

BlankFlip
11-15-2001, 10:21 AM
well wider rims, most likely racing ones, will probably need more support, so that extra bolt might be able to help support it better. don't know what the f*ck i'm talking about, but it sounds like it could be an explanation since 5 lug rims usually have more rims (performance wise mostly).

LanceS13
11-15-2001, 11:08 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from Rcs476 on 11:12 am on Nov. 15, 2001
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from LanceS13 on 11<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>1 pm on Nov. 14, 2001
If you think about it, those 16 (4 lug) bolts are supporting the entire weight of the car plus other various forces. If you have 20 bolts (5 lug) each bolts 'job' gets like 20-25% easier. The more bolts, the less stress each individual bolt is submitted to and the less likely you'll have equipment failure under harsh conditions (racing). That's the only technical reason I can think of. Other than that, it's just you have a larger selection of rims to choose from if you have 5 lug.
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Wouldn't the fifth lug just take 5% of the duty off each of the other 4 lugs? 25% x 4 as opposed to 20% x 5 . I think the only real difference is rim options/
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nope...doesn't work that way
2800lbs./16 lugs = 175 lbs. per lug
2800lbs./20 lugs = 140 lbs. per lug
175-140 = 35 lbs. decrease
(35/175)x100 = 20% decrease in weight per lug.
it helps...

BlankFlip
11-15-2001, 11:53 AM
so i guess it wouldn't really matter all that much if u got some lighter rims.

chickenmanq
11-15-2001, 12:46 PM
Generally, the more lug nuts a wheel has, the heavier it's running gear is going to be, hence stronger. &nbsp;Like my Nissan truck. &nbsp;It has 6 lugs, and I have beaten the shit out of it for 35,000 miles, and the things fine. &nbsp;Take a Chevy S10 or something like that (think they have 5 lugs), do that same thing, jumping it, etc., and it'll fall apart. &nbsp;Then again it is an S-10 and therefore shit for life. &nbsp;I have a special dislike for those vehicles, even though the 4.3 vortec isn't that bad an engine.

ZeroGS14
11-15-2001, 02:21 PM
I think the benifit is that you have a wider selection of wheels to choose from and that it is stronger then the 4 lug configuration.

LanceS13
11-15-2001, 02:37 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from BlankFlip on 12:53 pm on Nov. 15, 2001
so i guess it wouldn't really matter all that much if u got some lighter rims.
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They're supporting the weight of the car, not the rims.
chickenmanq has a point, too.

BlankFlip
11-15-2001, 03:39 PM
oh ok, at least i'm learning something new everyday.

11-15-2001, 04:33 PM
From what I've heard, the lugs are supposed to hold the wheel on to keep it from falling off, and to keep hold of the power. Have you ever seen drag racers that sheer off the lugs on their wheels. That's the force. When you accelerate the lugs is what makes the wheels move. One thing that has always bothered me, have you ever noticed that on all hubs, that there's a circle of metal that sticks out from the rest, it's where the center of a wheel sits. It's hard to explain, but factory wheels always come into contact with that center piece, therefore using that piece for holding up the car's weight not the lugs. I've never heard of any problems by not using that, because almost all aftermarket wheels don't match up to it, they are almost always made bigger, but usually large trucks and even 4X4's use that center piece. This probably doesn't make any sense, but next time you take your wheel off, just look around in there and it should make sense then.
Again another pointless, confusing post by me.

11-15-2001, 08:59 PM
man i just want the racing type where it just bolts in with one big center bolt..hahah..easier to take off the going in circles...

KoukiS14
11-15-2001, 09:13 PM
Well. . having 5 lugs is nice, cause now I'm no longer &quot;one-upped&quot; by guys in CAVALIERS who have 5 lugs lol

-Rob

transient
11-15-2001, 09:34 PM
hey, thinking about chickenmanq's post... is there any way to throw a 6 lug on our cars, or is that just overkill?