D-Max LED Taillights vs Origin red/clear vs OEM (vids+pics)

[jookybanana]

I picked up some D-MAX LED taillights recently thanks to Mr Kunio, and since I have Origin crystal red/clear and my OEM tails still kicking around, I figure I'll do some comparing.
I know some people may be thinking OEM is the best, it is, and I am about to show you (light output wise),
but as for styling, I am a red/clear fan, and I wish there was a red/clear OEM style taillight out there for the s13, since there isn't (to my knowledge) I have gone the crystal red/clear

here is Origin red clear
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWxqt0t0Kow
here is a Origin vs OEM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGzBun0eSjE
So with the Origin's I had they were quite dim and it gives a pink-ish red light, at night its ok, and I'm sure people knew i was braking from the third brake light lighting up,
but during the daytime its not as bright as the OEM tails for some reason, and the OEM tails gave out a more consistent lighting
where as the Origin's were more like 2 bright dots
and keeping in mind the bulbs are the same, and its not just Origin, the D-max would be the same too, I think they are from the same manufacturer

here is Origin vs D-Max LED
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaUda1hv8VU
here is D-Max LED's
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9Y_1klXaZk
I wasn't straight on behind with the camera, which is why it looks like the right one is brighter than the left, and LED's don't have the best angles
Now with the D-Max LED's I have noticed they are as bright as OEM, maybe even brighter and evenly lit, so I'm quite happy to have it light up as bright as OEM

my only complaints, and I'm sure everyone else that has experienced these taillights are the thick ass seals that come with it, makes the install a pain,
they need to make the seals slimmer, or at least make the threads longer
and to my dissapointment these are made in Taiwan, I got a D-Max product expecting made in Japan, same as the Origin's, I guess same manufacturer

here is some pics:
but don't use the pics to judge the lighting, since the camera's exposure is different when the lights are on when braking, that's why i had videos too
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/blowass/d-max%20led%20stuff/IMG_0444_resize_zps6ccc1ad2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/blowass/d-max%20led%20stuff/IMG_0446_resize_zpseeef0ba4.jpg
origin and dmax, looks the same except the LED under the lens
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/blowass/d-max%20led%20stuff/IMG_0469_resize_zpsef130156.jpg
the 1157 connectors
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/blowass/d-max%20led%20stuff/IMG_0468_resize_zps923cb3ac.jpg

origin red/clears
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/blowass/d-max%20led%20stuff/IMG_0452_resize_zps30513775.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/blowass/d-max%20led%20stuff/IMG_0454_resize_zps08e32dfc.jpg

origin red/clears vs OEM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/blowass/d-max%20led%20stuff/IMG_0457_resize_zpsc1d6908f.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/blowass/d-max%20led%20stuff/IMG_0455_resize_zps1bb5889d.jpg

origin red/clears vs D-Max LED's
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/blowass/d-max%20led%20stuff/IMG_0462_resize_zps51f49b8c.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/blowass/d-max%20led%20stuff/IMG_0464_resize_zps72bc2b07.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/blowass/d-max%20led%20stuff/IMG_0463_resize_zps8f69b3d3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/blowass/d-max%20led%20stuff/IMG_0465_resize_zps73e7ae7f.jpg

D-Max LED's
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/blowass/d-max%20led%20stuff/IMG_0474_resize_zps8e62b306.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/blowass/d-max%20led%20stuff/IMG_0473_resize_zps4acdadff.jpg


Bonus!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/blowass/d-max%20led%20stuff/IMG_0375_resize_zps7464e398.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/blowass/d-max%20led%20stuff/IMG_0485_resize_zps6d44ec8b.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/blowass/d-max%20led%20stuff/IMG_0486_resize_zps7e10c55b.jpg
I'm going to add it here since its a D-Max LED lighting, these are just kouki bumper lights but with LED's instead of the little peanut bulbs,
I'm actually having second thoughts about keeping these on my car because the lens is so transparent you can see the led panel inside, looks kinda wierd to me
but they are super bright

before:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/blowass/d-max%20led%20stuff/IMG_0478_resize_zpsc9e69d23.jpg
OEM and D-Max LED kouki bumper lights
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/blowass/d-max%20led%20stuff/IMG_0489_resize_zps74a4a0cd.jpg
after:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/blowass/d-max%20led%20stuff/IMG_0493_resize_zps926de2cc.jpg
here is a pic of them turned off
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/blowass/d-max%20led%20stuff/IMG_0492_resize_zps6c9a2ba4.jpg
the LED panel can be seen behind the lens,
undecided if I will keep these on my car haha..
I think D-Max should make a version with amber color LED's, that would be cool

[yomisiu]

wow, dmax looks way better.

for the 180sx bumper lights, why not just swap the lenses?

[KiDyNomiTe]

DMAX ones look pretty cool, glad to see a quick and easy option for Coupe owners now. The OEM tails and aftermarket ones are so terrible and dim. But thats why I chose to get custom ones done.

[worangejuice]

WOW!
Great Info/Write-up.
Youre life is so CLEAN (cars,garage,pics)

[FaLKoN240]

WELP coolest thread in a while!

[Matej]

Multi-LED lights look fancy until a single LED goes out and totally ruins the uniform look.

[benarovi]

the dmax tails look good but theres not enough led's in them. too much space inbetween/too big. and I don't like how they didn't do the entire lower part.
coolest tails right here
http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&key=44dc742c6ae854c912590be5122f2e42&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fzilvia.net%2Ff%2Foff-topic-chat%2F300761-diy-led-tail-lights-4.html&v=1&libId=1323aa26-359f-47a4-a193-7286615910f1&out=http%3A%2F%2Fi458.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fq q310%2Fmiguelyee%2Fd39744fe.jpg&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fzilvia.net%2Ff%2Foff-topic-chat%2F300761-diy-led-tail-lights-3.html&title=DIY%20LED%20Tail%20Lights%20-%20Page%204%20-%20Zilvia.net%20Forums%20%7C%20Nissan%20240SX%20(S ilvia)%20and%20Z%20(Fairlady)%20Car%20Forum&txt=&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13824124088076

[Dustxking]

Ive always been in the same boat. I hate the way the OEM taillights look.
The red/clear look 100times better IMO, but at the same time i hate the pinkish color at night.
I might pick me up some of these.

On another note, i thoughy jooky was MIA :-D

[silviaks2nr]

While pictures of the lights lit up might be able to tell you a little bit about performance if you could get comparison pictures, all with the same exposures, of how the light is emitted and spread it would be very useful. You would need to set up a white wall/board a few feet behind the vehicle to do this.

[jookybanana]

the dmax tails look good but theres not enough led's in them. too much space inbetween/too big. and I don't like how they didn't do the entire lower part.

yeah, I was thinking that too, but i think if they had more led's in there or used bigger led's it probably make the price too high for people to justify buying them

Ive always been in the same boat. I hate the way the OEM taillights look.
The red/clear look 100times better IMO, but at the same time i hate the pinkish color at night.
I might pick me up some of these.

On another note, i thoughy jooky was MIA :-D

haha, I always been lurking, I don't really post much in general

While pictures of the lights lit up might be able to tell you a little bit about performance if you could get comparison pictures, all with the same exposures, of how the light is emitted and spread it would be very useful. You would need to set up a white wall/board a few feet behind the vehicle to do this.

yes I could have set the same exposure, but I was too lazy to haha, I just left the camera on auto night mode, and made videos of it instead


also not sure if anyone noticed, with the D-Max LED tails, they light up quicker than the third brake light, I will probably change the third brake light bulb to LED bulb to match

[andisan]

Thanks I've been wondering what's the best options for my taillights, Very useful

[240sxDavid]

I wonder if anyone's done this for a hatch yet... Time to search and maybe make a thread like this. Great stuff btw:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::t humbup:

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[YannG]

nice write up dude...i personally like all of them hehe...though my favorites ones have to be the custom ones Benarovi sent a picture of!

[tricky_ab]

WELP coolest thread in a while!

HAHA Cosigned!

And thanks for taking the time to post comparative pictures, for us to look at OP...

[94_240sx]

Good thread. Thanks.

the dmax tails look good but theres not enough led's in them. too much space inbetween/too big.
This is why I didn't get D-Max tail lights.

i hate the pinkish color at night.
Yeah, I like the look of Origin clear tail lights, but this was an issue for me. If you use regular bulbs, they look pinkish at night.
I solved the problem using these red LED bulbs. I used regular red bulbs before, but they weren't bright enough.
Red LED bulbs work the best with Origin tail lights.

2pcs 1157 13 High Power LED Red Stop Tail Bulbs | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2pcs-1157-13-High-Power-LED-Red-Stop-Tail-Bulbs-/200971110654?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2ecacfc8fe&vxp=mtr#ht_1065wt_1238)

[GTR-Garage]

When the first box of LED position lights came in from D-Max I wondered why they didn't use the "crystal" style lenses. It seems like they wouldn't reduce the LED output as they are so bright. We're talking with them right now about an LED version of their red/crystal 180SX tails.

[blueshark123]

LOL- That is all I am going to say.

[KiLLeR2001]

Now you have to try the Circuit Sports LED tail lights...

http://www.enjukuracing.com/product_images/t/955/2269_604281388__32891_zoom.jpg

Circuit Sports LED Tail Light Set for Nissan 240sx '89-'94 Coupe - Enjuku Racing Parts, LLC (http://www.enjukuracing.com/products/Circuit-Sports-LED-Tail-Light-Set-for-Nissan-240sx-%2789%252d%2794-Coupe.html)

IMO, OEM is king when it comes to the coupe tail lights. I can't stand the crystal look and individual spaced out LED look is gross too.

I did a little YouTube video comparing stock bulbs vs LED bulb replacements on my kouki 180sx tail lights...

wKyE6zsGCPc

[racepar1]

WELP coolest thread in a while!

I would actually agree, dude took the time to write a PROPER thread.

[Matej]

Still cannot get into any LED lighting on a pre-21st century car. It always looks cheesy and out of place to me. Actually, I am not a fan of it even on most new cars.

No matter how wild the rest of the car is, OEM taillights look the best. I suppose I see the taillights as somewhat of a signature of the car model.

[InsTanCeZ]

LEDs look super cool, who cares about safety?

[SaNTi]

I was wondering how those new LED versions looked. Not bad. I wish the signals were also LED though.

I agree with most people in here too, the light output with the red/clear lenses is garbagio.

[racepar1]

LEDs look super cool, who cares about safety?


IMO LED's look cheesy, even the OE ones for the most part.

Someone got all bitchy about Mike's post, deleted it, and edited mine anyways. I doubt there will be any further talk of "safety", "legality", or "quality" in this thread.

:rolleyes:

[BossHogg]

Still cannot get into any LED lighting on a pre-21st century car. It always looks cheesy and out of place to me. Actually, I am not a fan of it even on most new cars.

No matter how wild the rest of the car is, OEM taillights look the best. I suppose I see the taillights as somewhat of a signature of the car model.

Props to thread maker.

God damn it I couldn't agree more. If this proved anything it's that OEM looks the best and performs the best lol. All this fake stuff looks ricey. The products themselves look cheap and fragile. If anything I would try to find brand new in box OEM tail lights. Super clean. Plus I like the Amber's.

Clean, Simple, Save's your cash.
http://i.imgur.com/0w0UagN.jpg

[ixfxi]

Someone got all bitchy about Mike's post, deleted it, and edited mine anyways. I doubt there will be any further talk of "safety", "legality", or "quality" in this thread.

:rolleyes:

What the fuck is this north korean BULLSHIT?

Who's the "forum secretary," err moderator who thinks they have the right to censor facts about safety?

Last I checked, this forum is about learning about our cars - not hyping bullshit non-compliant parts that jeopardize our safety and the safety of others on the road.

If a moderator has a beef with anything I said, then speak up. Its very petty to just subjectively edit posts for unknown reasons.

[racepar1]

Last I checked, this forum is about learning about our cars - not hyping bullshit non-compliant parts that jeopardize our safety and the safety of others on the road.

No, that's OTHER car forums. Zilvia is about cool shiny shit made in china, taiwan, pakistan, etc... Preferrably said shiny shit should be a lower cost knockoff of an actual quality part as well.

I'm with you Mike, the WHOLE post, NOT just what I quoted...

[akaioni]

Maybe if the deleted post only contained safety information and didn't refer to as an OP as an idiot and fucking moron maybe it would still be around to educate us lowly purchasers of non-oem China parts. I did find it funny that you criticized his grammar when you seem to have such a volatile relationship with the comma.

Thanks for the post jooky. I have avoided picking up a set because I couldn't find a good picture of them installed and lit up. I would assume that all these Japanese companies get their stuff in China unless they manufacture it in-house or have the name to put big price tags on their shit like HKS does with Garett.

And why the hell would anyone buy LED 180 tails? Just get kouki.

[Matej]

What the fuck is this north korean BULLSHIT?
Perhaps a forum advertiser who distributes the product in question did not enjoy your slander of said product, and thus big business got big government to take care of the nuisance for the mutual benefit of both parties, which in fact is North American politicking at its finest.

[jookybanana]

hahaha, i knew i would get some people angry for posting
but yea, sorry forgot to mention these are not DOT approved, off road use only
so those that daily their cars, might want to stick with OEM
and as for safety and illegal, the D-Max taillights are the least of my worries, my whole car is illegal (too low, stretched tires, rhd mirrors, HID's, loud exhuast, etc.), and i don't daily my coupe, if I did i'm sure i would get VI's
which is why I got a another 240 to daily (although its pretty illegal too LOL)
and I agree with everyone for the hatch, kouki tails would be the best for the hatch!

[ixfxi]

Maybe if the deleted post only contained safety information and didn't refer to as an OP as an idiot and fucking moron

Perhaps a forum advertiser who distributes the product in question did not enjoy your slander of said product

You know, it would be really smart if car enthusiasts would actually take the time to do something called research before creating a new thread.

If you're going to review something, review it and review it right. This is not a picture-sharing thread. This thread was created for discussion. I was not aware that me pointing out the products numerous flaws goes against any guidelines.


and as for safety and illegal, the D-Max taillights are the least of my worries, my whole car is illegal (too low, stretched tires, rhd mirrors, HID's, loud exhuast, etc.),

Thats the problem that I was pointing out. This is not an exhaust, it does not fall into the same category of non-compliance. You see, vendors cannot hide behind "for offroad use only" clause when it comes to lighting. Either it is compliant, or it is not compliant. If its not compliant, then vendors open themselves up to a can of liability PER instance of sale.

It is your duty as car enthusiasts to ask if the product is DOT compliant. And with a missing rear reflectors and sub-par LED components, my guess is that its not compliant.


In case you guys would like to see a link to how smart people actually attempt to research and review things, here is a link to the RX7 forum where a FD RX7 owner shows the lack of performance in a set of tail lights another vendor was selling:
Theorie First Production Run LED Taillight Conversion Review: IMPORTANT INFORMATION - RX7Club.com (http://www.rx7club.com/shops-part-suppliers-vendors-206/theorie-first-production-run-led-taillight-conversion-review-important-information-976420/)

Maybe if folks on Zilvia actually attempted to show some intellect, we'd be moving forward as a community instead of digressing into stanced body kit lovers of cars that hella suck.

Your father

[racepar1]

hahaha, i knew i would get some people angry for posting
but yea, sorry forgot to mention these are not DOT approved, off road use only
so those that daily their cars, might want to stick with OEM
and as for safety and illegal, the D-Max taillights are the least of my worries, my whole car is illegal (too low, stretched tires, rhd mirrors, HID's, loud exhuast, etc.), and i don't daily my coupe, if I did i'm sure i would get VI's
which is why I got a another 240 to daily (although its pretty illegal too LOL)
and I agree with everyone for the hatch, kouki tails would be the best for the hatch!

Nah, honestly your post is pretty good and thorough really. Mike is just a lighting snob and hates your china tails with a ravenous passion. I just hate em a little...

[InsTanCeZ]

I mostly like OEM lighting with LED retrofitting. Not sure how "DOT compliant" that is.

[racepar1]

I mostly like OEM lighting with LED retrofitting. Not sure how "DOT compliant" that is.

If that's what you like then Mike (ixfxi) is your guy, his kouki tails are fucking dope. How legal that is TOTALLY depends on whether or not the person doing the conversion uses DOT legal components or not.

[KiLLeR2001]

I get my posts deleted and edited all the goddamn time and it's getting pretty annoying. I've been bouncing the idea around with Masai about creating a new forum with only established members allowed. I'm starting to get more and more anxious to buy a domain name and a web service and go through with it. And it wouldn't be the first website I've created and maintained...

[Flicktitty]

OP Cool thread, I love how the Red/Clears look in the day, but at night they look awkward. The Dmax LED one's aren't bad but i agree with the person who said there was too few of them.

DMAX ones look pretty cool, glad to see a quick and easy option for Coupe owners now. The OEM tails and aftermarket ones are so terrible and dim. But thats why I chose to get custom ones done.

You past me and my Fiance on the way to the last FNL when you were with the GS,FC,and the BRZ your taillights are awesome!

[KiDyNomiTe]

The ones I have, don't mind the missing LED, its since been fixed.
Instead of going all the way out to the edges mine have a light tube that kind of raps around, hard to see unless its dark (not installed in the below photo)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/kidynomite/IMAG0068_zpsf293d25a.jpg
http://media.ziptied.com/members/files/206/simba_004.jpg

And Ray's

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1268372_549492501786131_408072217_o.jpg

[Flicktitty]

Simba - Did you build your own tails or have someone build them for you?

[KiDyNomiTe]

Simba - Did you build your own tails or have someone build them for you?

A friend of mine built them for me.

[kOOpA]

Simba with the dope ass Girls Generation tails, respect.

[ixfxi]

Nah, honestly your post is pretty good and thorough really. Mike is just a lighting snob and hates your china tails with a ravenous passion. I just hate em a little...

Theres nothing to like or dislike. Its either a good, usable product - or a sub-par piece of junk.
So I ask you all this: Why do we work on our cars?

For me, I work on them to upgrade them and make them better than stock.
So, what is the point in installing something that gives you less light, less visibility, and reduces safety?

Shit like this is as useless as those bullshit billet aluminum underdrive pulleys. Its as useless as Nintendo's POWER GLOVE.. its fuckin bullshit.


I mostly like OEM lighting with LED retrofitting. Not sure how "DOT compliant" that is.

The problem in the industry is not with the one-sie two-sie fabrications that people make, its with the cheap junk thats mass-produced and brought in by the boat-load. The stuff that is just sitting in warehouses and listed all over ebay. Thats the cheap shit we all need to be concerned about.

Lights that were offered for USDM vehicles have DOT stampings on them and are compliant. The Kouki 180SX tail lights were never available here in the US, they do not have DOT stampings on them - not that it matters much, because they would still meet & exceed their requirements for compliancy. These aftermarket pieces have nothing. If you test 100% of them, 100% will fail.

There is a reason why APC is no longer in business. Maybe some of you guys are too young to remember that fine company.
http://www.act-one.org/Link_Logos/Logos/apc_logo.gif

[racepar1]

Theres nothing to like or dislike. Its either a good, usable product - or a sub-par piece of junk.
So I ask you all this: Why do we work on our cars?

For me, I work on them to upgrade them and make them better than stock.
So, what is the point in installing something that gives you less light, less visibility, and reduces safety?

Shit like this is as useless as those bullshit billet aluminum underdrive pulleys. Its as useless as Nintendo's POWER GLOVE.. its fuckin bullshit.

Hey now, I've got one of those pulleys. Got it for free, still not convinced that it does anything more than make the engine vibrate more though...

You just take lighting matters more "personally" than most because you're in the industry. That was my point. I applaud the effort that the guy put into the thread and I accept and understand that a lot of people are interested in what he's "reviewing". Now would I ever put ANY of that cheap, China bullshit, gaudy LED, non-compliant, fucking ugly crap on MY car? FUCK NO! I would rather smash my nuts with a baseball bat, repeatedly...

The problem in the industry is not with the one-sie two-sie fabrications that people make, its with the cheap junk thats mass-produced and brought in by the boat-load. The stuff that is just sitting in warehouses and listed all over ebay. Thats the cheap shit we all need to be concerned about.

Lights that were offered for USDM vehicles have DOT stampings on them and are compliant. The Kouki 180SX tail lights were never available here in the US, they do not have DOT stampings on them - not that it matters much, because they would still meet & exceed their requirements for compliancy. These aftermarket pieces have nothing. If you test 100% of them, 100% will fail.

There is a reason why APC is no longer in business. Maybe some of you guys are too young to remember that fine company.
http://www.act-one.org/Link_Logos/Logos/apc_logo.gif

Ahhh, APC, the ORIGINAL rice.

[blkvrtswp]

I have the clear / red coupe taillights, and even with red LED bulbs it is still too pink for me. I picked up a set of OEM coupe tails, and I am going to put the Radientz 1mm spacing strips in there this winter for the brakes and tint the yellow part red to match the bottom half. I've been watching those 1mm spacing LEDs for a year and they are finally coming down in price.

Radiantz LED Lighting (http://www.radiantz.com/index1.html?c5.html&1)

[KiLLeR2001]

Cool white bulbs behind red plastic = pink lighting. In order to get nice solid red light, red LEDs should be used.

[jookybanana]

Theres nothing to like or dislike. Its either a good, usable product - or a sub-par piece of junk.
So I ask you all this: Why do we work on our cars?

For me, I work on them to upgrade them and make them better than stock.
So, what is the point in installing something that gives you less light, less visibility, and reduces safety?

Shit like this is as useless as those bullshit billet aluminum underdrive pulleys. Its as useless as Nintendo's POWER GLOVE.. its fuckin bullshit.




The problem in the industry is not with the one-sie two-sie fabrications that people make, its with the cheap junk thats mass-produced and brought in by the boat-load. The stuff that is just sitting in warehouses and listed all over ebay. Thats the cheap shit we all need to be concerned about.

Lights that were offered for USDM vehicles have DOT stampings on them and are compliant. The Kouki 180SX tail lights were never available here in the US, they do not have DOT stampings on them - not that it matters much, because they would still meet & exceed their requirements for compliancy. These aftermarket pieces have nothing. If you test 100% of them, 100% will fail.

There is a reason why APC is no longer in business. Maybe some of you guys are too young to remember that fine company.
http://www.act-one.org/Link_Logos/Logos/apc_logo.gif

hahah still going at it, lighten up man, it really does seem like your taking it too personal, i see a lot of things i don't like (LS1 crap in 240 for one) i am not going to bash the hell out of people, people like what they like, legal or not, its their problem

[jookybanana]

The ones I have, don't mind the missing LED, its since been fixed.
Instead of going all the way out to the edges mine have a light tube that kind of raps around, hard to see unless its dark (not installed in the below photo)

http://media.ziptied.com/members/files/206/simba_004.jpg


thats sick, thats d-max should have done, have more led's in their tails

[Mile High Silvia]

i like your style. def loving the led panel in the front. fuck it tho id rather look at a nice led panel than one of the regular old pos bulbs anyday.

[DustysS13]

What tails are these?

[DustysS13]

Which tails are the ones with the blue tint on the first page?

[GTR-Garage]

http://auctions.c.yimg.jp/img255.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/users/1/5/6/0/crown428stingray-img600x450-13469978213hpmx713930.jpg
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You have to pay to play.

[SaNTi]

Wut...

http://auctions.c.yimg.jp/img255.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/users/1/5/6/0/crown428stingray-img600x450-1346997822ggrnpe13930.jpg

[silviaks2nr]

Maybe just me but I hate the look of undiffused or unfocused LEDs. It looks like a cheap radioshack highschool science project.

[HeyGirlHeyyy]

There is a reason why APC is no longer in business. Maybe some of you guys are too young to remember that fine company.
http://www.act-one.org/Link_Logos/Logos/apc_logo.gif

Dear Lord, the only stickers that really gave you extra HP. :rolleyes: If I remember correctly, the windshield banners were would either double or triple your power if you had the proper supporting mods? You know, chicken wire grills, Street Glow neons, spray painted interior trim and sweet vinyl graphics to accent the logos of the "part sponsors" you had plastered on your door.

I feel old.

Edit: I have nothing to add to this thread, just the sweet sweet nostalgia of yesteryear's rice.

[HeyGirlHeyyy]

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You have to pay to play.

Wut...

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These look like a Lite-Brite creation.