Making a drifting car

[curioushuang]

Hey guys,
I'm looking to build a nice drift car. I start with a 1996 240sx. I was wondering what the best suspension i should get, rims? How big should my rims be? I need strut bars no? Any info on what i should do to a stock 240sx to make it the perfect drift car, i'd appreciate it.
Thanks Guys.

[DSC]

The perfect drift car can't be your every day driver. So if it is, you'll have to change your plans a bit and just drift with a less than perfect car. I dono much about drifting setups but they are lowered and the wheels go like this /--\ instead of this |--| like you would want on an everyday driver. If this is your everyday driver, i'd say just get some good coilovers, and 16" rims and get some tires that aren't too sticky and drift with that.

[kitoro]

want some drift car specs, go to www.driftclub.com
one thing about drift setups is you lose A LOT of the streetability.
negative camber to the rear wheels tend to swing ur rear out crazy on any type of turn, ur suspension is incredibly stiff as well...
another thing is you need to stiffen-up the chassis a lot in order to keep it from bending!
lotsa things to think about.

i feel it's more reliable to race prep it a bit, preserve some streetability and lose the negative camber, learn to drift w/ what you have. ^.^

[BlankFlip]

wow, that site is pretty cool, never seen it before. if u want a "drift" car then yeah u should have another car to be driving around. that's not saying that u can't drift ur car if it's lowered, got stiff suspension, lsd, n some bald tires on the rear.

[whateverjames]

just a question, i hear a lot of people wanting to be drifters, where are people supposed to drift? safely?

[AmericanBornSilvia]

some guy was drifting  in a parking lot at my local safeway lol

but seriously maybe you should try to find some REALLY secluded places

[chickenmanq]

I'd say whenever you could safely spin out without hitting other cars, regardless of what road you're on.  Just remember, spinning out leads to ditches.  Ditches lead to body damage.  Now, I don't care in my truck, but I imagine it'd mess up a nice 240.

&quot;The Road is my Racetrack&quot; - Me, just now. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

[curioushuang]

Hey guys,
I guess i should revise my original question. I need to get some rims, i was wondering what i should get. Size/offset/lugpattern/weight, etc. Is there a certain brand? I like the Racinghart cp035 but i don't know what size or width i should get for my car to make it better to drift

[matic 240sx]

get 300zx TT rims

[DSC]

Yeah, the 300zx tt rims are nice. You don't want big 18&quot; rims for drifting, like I mentioned earlier, 16&quot; would be good. Also, despite the name, racinghart rims are more for show than racing from what i've heard.

[yenpit]

also keep in mind every jdm-spec drift car ive seen is turbo'd.....u need the power to keep the rear wheels spinning. i think one of the basic ideas is to &quot;steer&quot; the car with the rear end. i havent driven my 98 yet (still at body shop) but i dont think its got enough balls to keep tires spinning....except in rain/snow. u can have some fun but not like the jdm videos!!

[kitoro]

it's better to drift at a race track, usually race tracks have road courses as well.
in my calgary, we have a race track that has a road course and it's not too bad to practice.
most ppl who drift in my area go to the mountains and secluded roads to do it.
avoid problems and casualties

[curioushuang]

I was wondering why 16&quot; rims are ideal for drifting? Do you want light rims or med weight rims? Is width a factor? I was thinking about getting some 17x7's or 17x8's opposed to 16x7's or 16x8's. What do you think?
Andy

[Sway500]

You should talk to SlideSquad Mark he is in the process of building a S14. i would say he is about the best person you could talk to.

http://www.davescholz.com

If it were me i would go with this setup:
S14 SR20DET VVt w/ball bearing turbo(kouki black top)
Trust R-Spec Fornt Mount and piping
Blitz BOV
Blitz SBC-id boost Controller
Blitz TT
5 lug conversion (if it doesnt have five lugs)
R32 GT-R rims in the front (gunmetal) with Falkin Azenis
R32 GTSt rims in rear(silver) with a decent compound
Tein HE Coilovers
Safety 21 6pt rollcage
Recaro or Bride seat
Sabelt 4pt harness.

[BlankFlip]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from curioushuang on 1<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>1 pm on Nov. 13, 2001
I was wondering why 16&quot; rims are ideal for drifting? Do you want light rims or med weight rims? Is width a factor? I was thinking about getting some 17x7's or 17x8's opposed to 16x7's or 16x8's. What do you think?
Andy
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all the drifting cars i've seen have light 15 or 16 inch rims, of course some r gonna have 17 or more, but the best drifting cars i've seen had 15, 16&quot;. i've seen a lot of those rims that r like the kosei k1 racing rims, i think they're buddy club rims or something like that.

[curioushuang]

what about the width of the rims? How does that effect drifting? Are 17's pushing it?

[180sx]

You dont have to have the perfect drift car to drift. But if you just want to have that drift look and make everyone think you drift go right ahead.

[180sx]

You dont have to have the perfect drift car to drift. But if you just want to have that drift look and make everyone think you drift go right ahead.

[drifterx]

real drift cars have average size rims like 15 or 16s with nice regular size tires not the rubber bands u see at car shows

[curioushuang]

My question still hasn't really been clearly answered, although i thank all of you for the great info that i have recieved. I can't decide on the Width of the tires. 7 &nbsp;inchers or 8 inchers.
Thanks
Andy

[kitoro]

the wider the tires, the more grip it has on the road.
so wider tires for the rear would be a good idea.

w/ drift specs it's hard to say. most ppl who become really good tend to ignore the subtleties and go for a normal look and so on and do not care about width of tires or the size of rims, (altho 16's and 17's are BEST),

if you want to have ur rear wheels powering ur drifts and you're not all too experty yet, go for the wider wheels in the rear.

[kitoro]

blah i'm so silly... drifting is only for rear wheels. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

on another note: it's one thing to look like you drift, it's another to know how to. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

[LanceS13]

If the point is to break traction in the rear to drift, why would you put a larger contact patch back there? &nbsp;Wouldn't that neutralize the car or even more likely make it push?

[BlankFlip]

it would neutralize it more, which is what u'd probably want b/c at high speeds w/ rwd ur car would probably just spin out on u n this would help keep ur car &quot;drifting.&quot; just like lsd, u'd think u'd not need it so ur car could just let loose, but it's all about controlling ur car in a drift.

[LanceS13]

but what good is it if you can't even break traction? &nbsp;I can see it if you have a good bit of power; but I could drift my car when it was still on stock 195 rubber better than I can now with the 225s. &nbsp;I dunno...I'm not a master drifter or anything so I'm probably wrong. &nbsp;I prefer positive traction anyway. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

[S13 Passion]

a little off topic... all i seem to do now for fun is do donuts with my car.... ####, thats all i do in my school parking lot... well, not all the time.... anywayz, what would i be f*cking up other than my tires? &nbsp;alignment and chassis right? &nbsp;im asking this because i want to see if i should tighten my chassis. &nbsp;no, i havent occured any problems......YET!! hehe

[BlankFlip]

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but what good is it if you can't even break traction? I can see it if you have a good bit of power; but I could drift my car when it was still on stock 195 rubber better than I can now with the 225s. I dunno...I'm not a master drifter or anything so I'm probably wrong. I prefer positive traction anyway. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>
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i don't think it's 2 hard 2 brake traction w/ rwd, or at least i've never had a problem n all 3 of the cars i've had have been rwd (take that back, my camaro lacked power to do it at lower speeds). i think that's more of a problem for fwd then u wouldn't even need to think about stuff like this.