View Full Version : Replacing trim after re-painting a 240?
niSm095
10-16-2013, 07:39 AM
I'm prepping my car for a full color change. Before I start pulling the door and window trim....where can I find replacements for that stuff? Local dealerships say it's all no longer made. Only other place I know is rock auto. They have no exterior molding. Front/rear windshields I'm not worried about, really just everything around the doors and coupe rear quarter glass.
STL240SXDRIFT
10-16-2013, 08:29 AM
Call Russel at Nissanparts.cc for trim if its still available
Frank_Jaeger
10-16-2013, 12:12 PM
and coupe rear quarter glass.
The molding there is bonded to the glass as one unit. As far as I'm aware, you can't get just the molding without getting new glass.
This is going to be an expensive endeavor, assuming you can even find OEM trim. Good luck!
heychris
10-16-2013, 01:05 PM
There was a guy on here advertising door, windshield and rear window trim.
As far as s14's go, the rear quarter window and trim is separate. Comes out as one piece, but the glass easily separates from the rubber. At least mine did when I disassembled for paint.
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ManoNegra
10-16-2013, 01:27 PM
As far as s14's go, the rear quarter window and trim is separate. Comes out as one piece, but the glass easily separates from the rubber.
I did mine recently and that wasn't the case.
Been around for a while and never seen the oem quarter glass nor trim sold separately.
xGhettosledx
10-16-2013, 02:18 PM
I do glass replacement as a profession and I own an s14 the quarter glass is an "encapsulated" glass and it is all molded together. you could cut the glass out of the rubber molding but you will destroy it, and you can not purchase the rubber separate.
crzsteveo
10-16-2013, 03:31 PM
^good first post in over 5 years lol
xoxide
10-16-2013, 03:41 PM
Be prepared to dump a ton of money. I spent $400 bucks on new OEM sunroof, fr, and rear mouldings. All the door stuff I just refreshed myself.
For what its worth, you can still get the stuff NEW from Nissan, they are not discontinued.
Also, if you want new quarter glass, you'll be spending $500 per quarter.
DJ 21o3
10-16-2013, 03:42 PM
I do glass replacement as a profession and I own an s14 the quarter glass is an "encapsulated" glass and it is all molded together. you could cut the glass out of the rubber molding but you will destroy it, and you can not purchase the rubber separate.
+1
My friend's father does glass replacement professionally and that was exactly what he said.
niSm095
10-16-2013, 06:17 PM
To iterate something..I have an s13, not 14, hence the 'discontinued' stuff. I know most stuff is still available for the 14's. So what do people with s13's do? I don't have a sunroof, so that's okay.
KiLLeR2001
10-16-2013, 06:26 PM
I actually had to fly out to the Nissan factory in Japan and purchase the old machinery that made all the S13 Silvia/180sx mouldings. That way I could make my own mouldings whenever I damn well please. Holla.
driftminds13
10-16-2013, 06:33 PM
I have s13 coupe quarter windows WITH clean moldings, if you need them just let me know.
DJ 21o3
10-16-2013, 06:44 PM
I have a hatch and was told the same info as the 14..
BossHogg
10-16-2013, 07:58 PM
heh, I think I got the last driver side door window trim a few months back. The passenger side was sold out. Got a few other pieces while I was there just in case those were no longer made either. I can't remember the price of the one trim piece. I think it was 150 ish. There was a few pieces I asked about and a lot were discontinued and no longer in stock. Got lucky on the window trim piece. A stock power steering reservoir was 300 bucks lol, no longer made or in stock though. Maybe nissan japan can help you. See if streeter would be kind enough to check in on it for you. Of course it will cost even more to get them though with shipping etc. Depends on how bad you want it. Sometimes I don't think the American side dealerships are very accurate. Have to take it to the source land.
mechanicalmoron
10-16-2013, 08:04 PM
Generic weatherstripping, and black silicone caulk as needed. Or bits off whatever car they happen to fit from.
The FSM tells you how to take out mouldings the lazy way, and glue them back together. Might be in one of the supplement things or something.
xoxide
10-16-2013, 08:06 PM
^Thats probably one of the most useless posts you've made so far... :naw:
mechanicalmoron
10-16-2013, 08:15 PM
^Thats probably one of the most useless posts you've made so far... :naw:
new-ish shit.... not hundreds or thousands of dollars.
Useful to consider.
Gumbrick
10-17-2013, 10:00 PM
In regards to quarter glass, I've been there and done that. Pulled all the glass for paint and my quarter glass was scratched up and the encapsulated rubbers were dry-rotted. Nissan was out of stock at the time on 1 side. I eventually found some good glass off a wreck that was mint with great rubbers and went from there.
You can salvage the quarters windows and rubbers without ruining them by carefully cutting them out. you will need a thin flexible putty knife sharpened razor sharp, a heat gun to heat the inside frame and knife, and lots of time and more so patience...
The wire way glass removal method works for the front and rear glass, although is not the preferred method with quarter glass. You end up damaging the rubbers on the quarter glass using the piano wire method. And if you recently painted your car you will most likely etch the paint trying to save the rubbers. I've had glass guys break quarter windows on multiple 240's before I started removing them myself. One glass guy said the only way to remove the glass without damaging the rubbers was an induction heating machine that would heat the metal scorching hot and melt the urethane bead between the frame and glass. I didn't, nor did he know of any local glass guys that had this 1k machine. Another guy said he chopped out glass with a sawzaw like machine that acted like a air hammer with a sharp knife as the hammer. It would not be recommended for the quarters due to its violent nature and the centering-clips and such would be destroyed.
The induction method is what the pros would use. This method was done on a friends hatchback after it was show painted and he realized his new tint had amplified his scratched glass. He couldn't live with it so they called out a guy who had the machine. Metal gets so hot the urethane literally burns,(car was smoking) and then the glass could be pushed out.
The way I did it was with a putty knife and heat gun. Buy a flexible putty knife, sharpen the edges razor sharp and have at it. Heating the surrounding metal worked better than trying to heat the knife edge. Once you get a line cut,( have some wiggle room benefiting from the cut) stick a SMALL wedge of some sort between the opening you have cut. it will be easier now to torch the urethane with the heat as now you have created an opening. This is all done from inside the cabin. It takes a LONG time but would you rather break your glass, destroy your rubbers, or worse, buy new glass that's outrageously priced?
Work your way around the centering clips and make sure you don't hack them off. there is a major centering pin on the lower corner of the glass that snaps into the frame. get a buddy to pawl the clip from inside the quarter panel access as you try to get the glass out. This was done on s13 coupe quarters and IMO they are very fragile. DON'T PRY OR FORCE! this is tempered glass! If you wedge them too far with any substantial force or pry them over an inch they will shatter everywhere...
As for moldings are concerned. I had Excellent results with flexitrim FT1630. great stuff, its already impregnated with butyl so it sticks on the glass nice for install. Covered my windshield perfect and looks way better than oem rain-gutter trim.
niSm095
10-19-2013, 01:54 PM
Gumbrick, thanks for your help bud. That's very informative. I'll give that a go. I'm still on the lookout for some clean rear quarter glass/seals for replacement.
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