Beware: Counterfeit Rota wheels

[HyperTek]

ROTA Wheels warns against counterfeit products - Auto News by AutoIndustriya.com (http://www.autoindustriya.com/auto-industry-news/rota-wheels-warns-against-counterfeit-products.html)

The recent proliferation of counterfeit ROTA Wheels around Asia has prompted its manufacturer and trademark holder Philippine Aluminum Wheels, Inc. (PAWI) to issue a warning statement to protect customers.

The official statement from PAWI is in bold:

The counterfeit [ROTA] wheels have recently surfaced through some wheel dealers in Malaysia. They are manufactured in China. The most distinct feature of the 'copies' is that they are embossed with a ROTA marking on the face of the wheel, whereas the genuine ROTA [wheel] has none. They also come with a center cap bearing the 'ROTA Wheels' logo. They are packaged in plain brown boxes. Original ROTA wheels come with boxes that feature ROTA markings and 3D wheel drawings.

"ROTA Wheels undergo rigid testing using JWL/JWL-T standards to assure you that you are purchasing quality wheels. We cannot guarantee the safety of the copies so please be careful with your wheel purchases," said Michael Rojas, president of PAWI.

ROTA and its logo is a registered trademark of Philippine Aluminum Wheels, Inc.

Genuine ROTA Wheels are made proudly in the Philippines.

The company has provided a link to its Distributors Page for customers to refer to in case they have questions about the products.


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:spank: The copies are probably better than the originals lol

[mechanicalmoron]

The nerve of those counterfitters, counterfitting counterfits from good upstanding counterfitters.

[turbo2nr]

LOL

i heard you like counterfeits so we counterfeited your counterfeits so you can have counterfeits.

[S14 Ender]

I wonder how bad counterfeit rotas are material wise.

[cbcm2435]

i was just about to post this, lol.

[pyshin]

Redacted..

[lflkajfj12123]

justice has been served

[ghoti]

Rota now knows that feel.

[FRpilot]

Are you kidding me!? ROFL!!

Are we suppose to feel sympathy for Rota?

[KiLLeR2001]

counterfeitception

[zerodameaon]

And to think a friend of mine was just defending Rotas and how they are not fakes. Now all the riceboys can say they have real wheels because someone is now copying them.

[erik05v]

counterfeitception

lol..........

[FRpilot]

The nerve of those counterfitters, counterfitting counterfits from good upstanding counterfitters.

you inspired me to make this:

Xzibit meme - yo dawg i heard you like counterfeiting so we made counter (http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3vhy1q/)

http://static.quickmeme.com/media/social/qm.gif

too bad i can't find a way to link the image. someone halp!

[HyperTek]

Could be a ploy to get Rota off the bottom of the wheel food chain lol
Watch them push a "Buy authentic Rota wheels" campaign and run ads in Superstreet lol

[mechanicalmoron]

you inspired me to make this:

Xzibit meme - yo dawg i heard you like counterfeiting so we made counter (http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3vhy1q/)

too bad i can't find a way to link the image.

http://static.quickmeme.com/media/social/qm.gif

*edit* crap you're right it won't embed, that's lame...

[xoxide]

Wonder how much brota reps cost....

[HyperTek]

http://www.clublexus.com/forums/attachments/sc-400-300/155518d1256485613-18x9-5-20-rota-haters-please-do-not-click-broken-rota.jpg
Someone needs to photoshop this. "Rota be like These are counterfeit Rotas." lol

[FaLKoN240]

These are real ROTA... Imagine what would happen if you bought FAKE ROTA

[PeaceOnesxWai]

:bowrofl::bowrofl: This made me laugh so hard!

[FRpilot]

Don't buy made in China.

Make sure your wheels are authentic Rotas and made in the Philippines.

[tricky_ab]

justice has been served

Agreed! The irony in this is just too damn sweet...

[niscur29]

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/35151982.jpg

Hell it sounds like the fakes may actually look better then the originals with cast/engraved logos etc.

[Cjkouki2010]

Good to know!! Lol

[word sux]

oh, sweet irony...


I bet rota this is just a marketing gimmick from rota. Soon there will be sportsmaxx knockoffs too.

[sw20>>s14]

If I were PR for Ray's or Advan (or etc.), I'd make a spoof press release in response to Rota's press release...

[97nismo]

Maybe Rota doesnt think they sell fake wheels...maybe they compare themselves to rays or advan.

[mechanicalmoron]

If I were PR for Ray's or Advan (or etc.), I'd make a spoof press release in response to Rota's press release...

"the counterfits have center caps that say "rota", though it's not engraved anywhere on the wheel"

[ghoti]

you inspired me to make this:

too bad i can't find a way to link the image. someone halp!

*edit* crap you're right it won't embed, that's lame...

You guys suck at embedding pics:s101:
http://i.qkme.me/3vhy1q.jpg

[AFSil80]

Rota's new wheel "design", BTW.

https://sphotos-a-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/q71/s720x720/993384_10151643620738752_968088591_n.jpg

I'm sure those bolts are there to keep the multi-piece wheels together on the Rotas, too. :rollseyes:

[silnv]

Rota's new wheel "design", BTW.

https://sphotos-a-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/q71/s720x720/993384_10151643620738752_968088591_n.jpg

I'm sure those bolts are there to keep the multi-piece wheels together on the Rotas, too. :rollseyes:

Looks counterfeit to me.

[coreyh]

Rota's new wheel "design", BTW.

https://sphotos-a-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/q71/s720x720/993384_10151643620738752_968088591_n.jpg

I'm sure those bolts are there to keep the multi-piece wheels together on the Rotas, too. :rollseyes:

ccw is totally jocking rotas style. just like rays, works, and ssr are all stealing xxrs designs. STOP COUNTERFEITING

[mau5trap]

counterfeitception

Lmfao. haha

[Guitar Nut]

http://www.clublexus.com/forums/attachments/sc-400-300/155518d1256485613-18x9-5-20-rota-haters-please-do-not-click-broken-rota.jpg
Someone needs to photoshop this. "Rota be like These are counterfeit Rotas." lol

Here you go


http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc303/josb1234/rotabelike.jpg (http://s215.photobucket.com/user/josb1234/media/rotabelike.jpg.html)

[mechanicalmoron]

Am I the only one with no intention in ever buying rotas, but who would give the counterfeits a shot? Somehow counterfeiting a lame counterfeit is less insidious than counterfeiting a good wheel.

[tricky_ab]

Am I the only one with no intention in ever buying rotas, but who would give the counterfeits a shot? Somehow counterfeiting a lame counterfeit is less insidious than counterfeiting a good wheel.

Nope, you're not... I'm not giving that company any of my money.

Then again, I never really looked at those "types" of rims in the first place so...

[bc.]

Nope, you're not... I'm not giving that company any of my money.

Then again, I never really looked at those "types" of rims in the first place so...

You mean the type called "knock-offs"? Yeah, me either.

[simmode1]

Am I the only one with no intention in ever buying rotas, but who would give the counterfeits a shot? Somehow counterfeiting a lame counterfeit is less insidious than counterfeiting a good wheel.
Dude, just go to Wheelflip or something. Buy some lame sized but legit 2 piece wheel for cheap & have it rebarrelled/widened to your liking. It's possible to do all this and only be marginally more expensive than decent sized Brotas.

And as for Rota's new wheel, XXR beat them to the punch with that one:
http://a248.e.akamai.net/origin-cdn.volusion.com/5ehx2.gysj4/v/vspfiles/photos/53168080-2.jpg?1375101646

[Gizmo_S13]

The irony...

[OutlawLui]

Damn can't wait to get some leggit wheels.


I feel like the kid in school with Bear Air shoes, with my xxr's

[S14Dzenki]

So people already say not to buy rotas because they're fragile and someone decides to go ahead an counterfeit it to make it even more fragile and flimsy? What are they thinking....

[zerodameaon]

So people already say not to buy rotas because they're fragile and someone decides to go ahead an counterfeit it to make it even more fragile and flimsy? What are they thinking....

Unless by some freak accident they turn out to be better quality. The law of infinite probability says some day that will happen. Could be that Rota is just pissed their copy brand is better than their stuff.

[FRpilot]

Dear customers, please be warned that we have become aware that there are counterfeits of our products circulating on the market.

We advise you to be careful when purchasing counterfeits... please make sure you are buying LEGIT counterfeits for your safety...

[97nismo]

Legit counterfeits.....hahahahahahaha

[ultimateforce]

And as for Rota's new wheel, XXR beat them to the punch with that one:


Don't want to start a big derail here, but I don't think I could call these counterfeit. That style of spoke has been on wheels for a long time.

http://motoroids.com/images/stories/Motorsports/F1/2010_cars/2010_ferrari_image7_motoroids.jpg

[xoxide]

Don't want to start a big derail here, but I don't think I could call these counterfeit. That style of spoke has been on wheels for a long time.

CCW has a very distinct form of mesh wheels. It is very obvious Rota blatently ripped the CCW design off. I wouldnt expect you to understand though, Orlando.

[ultimateforce]

I was talking about those XXRs you dickhead.

[simmode1]

I was talking about those XXRs you dickhead.
Lol... he still doesn't get it...

[ultimateforce]

No I get it just fine. That is probably the most "ripped off" wheel spoke design of all time. The Rota replica is exact to CCWs down to the fake multi-piece wheel studs and is a obvious knock-off.

Those XXRs are knock-offs of the "open spoke" BBS style, but that style is again probably one of most copied styles of all time at this point. I don't really see BBS losing a lot of sleep over that one.

[simmode1]

There are some pretty big/obvious differences in the mesh styles of BBS & CCW. But XXR has copied them both with their 521 & 531 wheels.

Rota is probably the biggest name in the counterfeit wheel game right name, but XXR has been beating them for the past couple years now. But then again, winning that game is like winning at the Special Olympics.

But at least XXR will drop a few original designs occasionally, like the 526 and 535.

[LoneStarSilvia]

LOL.

Compares street wheel design to that of a F1 car and calls it the same.

That's like saying all white wheels are rip off of each other because they're the same color.

[Corbic]

Joking aside -

By the sound of it, Rota does do safety testing, so regardless of busted Rota pictures, they are meeting a minimal standard. JWL standard - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JWL_standard)

Rota is not upset about someone steeling their "style or design", they are upset and concerned with someone selling an "inferior" product and calling it a Rota. There is a huge difference between making a TE37 clone that's cheaper (while not being as nice) and making a TE37 clone and saying it's in fact a TE37 made by Volk.

So when your clone breaks - your blaming Volk, or in this case Rota - even though neither company is responsible.

This hurts the consumer and the brand. Like it not, Rota has established themselves as a "go to" brand for import fans looking to modify there cars. Honda kids and Subie owners don't give two shits about Rota's being knock-offs. This seems to be an exclusively 240sx + Volkswagen thing.

[Corbic]

There are some pretty big/obvious differences in the mesh styles of BBS & CCW. But XXR has copied them both with their 521 & 531 wheels.

Rota is probably the biggest name in the counterfeit wheel game right name, but XXR has been beating them for the past couple years now. But then again, winning that game is like winning at the Special Olympics.

But at least XXR will drop a few original designs occasionally, like the 526 and 535.

For denim, do you exclusively wear 501s?

[imotion s14]

Hope everyone knows there is a differences between a "copy" and "counterfeit/counterfeiting"

Yeah Rota copies the design of other wheel manufacturers, but they're not counterfeiting. Counterfeiting is when you copy something with the intent to pass it off as something else. In layman's term it's copying + fraud.

[simmode1]

For denim, do you exclusively wear 501s?
Nah, but I'm sure XXR does...
http://www.tnaauto.com/v/vspfiles/photos/whl-xxr501-2.jpg

You guys do make some great points though about Rota's reasoning for being angry. I remember a thread on NICO ages ago where Subydude/Wheeldude actually provided some input on the quality assurance processes that they use over at Rota. Despite being blatant replicas of existing products, I wouldn't really fear for my life if I had to use their wheels.

I used to be a supporter of inexpensive wheel companies like Rota & XXR. But now I know that there are reasonably priced alternatives to ripping of the R&D that reputable companies have put into their work. So now, I wouldn't say that I'm a Rota/XXR basher, but I'm just indifferent. Spend your money however you want to.

[Corbic]

Nah, but I'm sure XXR does...
http://www.tnaauto.com/v/vspfiles/photos/whl-xxr501-2.jpg


I used to be a supporter of inexpensive wheel companies like Rota & XXR. But now I know that there are reasonably priced alternatives to ripping of the R&D that reputable companies have put into their work. So now, I wouldn't say that I'm a Rota/XXR basher, but I'm just indifferent. Spend your money however you want to.


Honestly, I'd like to see this "R&D". I mean does Volk offer some sort of spec on their wheels, TE37's hold X-number more torques then Wed Cerberus3? They can sustain X-number more wrecks, ect ect.

I honestly think 90% of the wheels any of these guys sell is "no fucks given to performance". Yes, obviously weight is always a factor, and so is meeting a minimal standard of strength and durability, but with that said, would you buying some other wheel or off-set over your preferred one because it's 6-oz less?

XXR and Rota are not really competing with the big-names in performance. We all know their wheels are heavier and come in more limited sizes - we also all expect them to not be as durable or repairable. With that said, 90% of the tuner kids are just hard-parking. Legit wheels are not cooler because they are 3lbs lighter and let you get first place because you had the optimum tire size - they are cooler because they are expensive as fuck and you can wave your dick around.

Shits all peacocking. Girls buy purses and shoes, ricer boys buy wheels and body kits.

As far as durability, I know dozens of guys that have done thousands of drift runs at the track with "knock off wheels" - only time I saw a wheel break is when a car hit the wall - and that car was fucking totaled so who cares.

[!Zar!]

Imagine if you spent X-Time and Y-Money on designing something and then someone comes along to rips off your design. But not only that, they begin to sell it with inferior quality and a lower price.

It's easier to steal somebody else's idea than it is to make your own.

[sidewaysil80]

http://static.fjcdn.com/gifs/lol+i+dont+give+a+fuck.+not+sure+if+repost_d88dc9_ 3682814.gif

A year hiatus and people are still whining like little girls with skimmed knees about the same shit.

[slowvia]

Apparently the import world only cares when a bargain company rips off an expensive Japanese company.

Cragar SS:
http://www.restorationperformance.com/images/store-3/crager-camaro-ss.jpg

American Racing Torque Thrust:
http://image.classictrucks.com/f/features/1305clt_1966_chevrolet_c10/43828409/1305clt-01-o%2B1966-chevrolet-c10%2Bamerican-racing-torque-thrust-20X8-front-wheel.jpg

Work VSKF:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dXFwfsbGQjg/TATYqfTS8EI/AAAAAAAAAAc/Ll1eaLvItKg/s1600/vskf+120mm+145mm.jpg

Not to mention Work Meisters vs. SSR Professors.
Everyone is ripping everyone off. Even Work CR Kai's are a rip off of stock Toyota Camry wheels from the 90s.
Camry proof:
http://www.automotix.com/images/products/wheels/aly69384u.jpg

At least Rota doesn't brand their knock offs with their competitors name. That's why they're upset. And I don't blame them, I'd be upset too.

[cj1977]

I wonder how bad counterfeit rotas are material wise.

I watched something on Youtube about counterfeit Rotas and they do not withstand the same abuse as real Rotas or even good wheels period.

[xoxide]

I watched something on Youtube about counterfeit Rotas and they do not withstand the same abuse as real Rotas or even good wheels period.
http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af126/warewolf16/misc-you-dont-say.png (http://media.photobucket.com/user/warewolf16/media/misc-you-dont-say.png.html)

[thefro526]

The discussion in this thread makes me want to bang my head against the wall.

Knocking off someone's wheel design is one thing, I can understand the issue here - though there's a certain point in time where you can only have so much reasonably variation between design and there will be some overlap, but I digress.

When speaking about wheel quality - specifically fit, finish, and robustness, Rotas, at least in my mind are 'good enough' wheels. For the price, they work well enough, look decent and I can't really complain otherwise. For the same functionality and visual effect, I could have gotten TE's and been in the hole 3x more money, for what? Cred? Lol.

As far as the standard set of rota failure pictures are concerned, most I've seen are all after someone has put the wheel under some extreme non-normal loading condition. How many of you have hit a pot hole in a car with OEM wheels and bent the rim? A rota isn't allowed to do this? How many of you have smashed a curb and destroyed a "real" wheel? A rota isn't allowed to break?

Now I think it makes sense, when it happens to someone else and the wheel is fake, the wheel is blamed to be the issue. When it happens to you and the wheel is 'real' then it's a tragedy that you did XYZ and destroyed a wheel.

Lol. I love this place.

[mechanicalmoron]

The discussion in this thread makes me want to bang my head against the wall.

Knocking off someone's wheel design is one thing, I can understand the issue here - though there's a certain point in time where you can only have so much reasonably variation between design and there will be some overlap, but I digress.

When speaking about wheel quality - specifically fit, finish, and robustness, Rotas, at least in my mind are 'good enough' wheels. For the price, they work well enough, look decent and I can't really complain otherwise. For the same functionality and visual effect, I could have gotten TE's and been in the hole 3x more money, for what? Cred? Lol.

As far as the standard set of rota failure pictures are concerned, most I've seen are all after someone has put the wheel under some extreme non-normal loading condition. How many of you have hit a pot hole in a car with OEM wheels and bent the rim? A rota isn't allowed to do this? How many of you have smashed a curb and destroyed a "real" wheel? A rota isn't allowed to break?

Now I think it makes sense, when it happens to someone else and the wheel is fake, the wheel is blamed to be the issue. When it happens to you and the wheel is 'real' then it's a tragedy that you did XYZ and destroyed a wheel.

Lol. I love this place.
The ones that are all ripped/twisted out in the spokes, with no damage to the rim, look like they hooked up, and ripped the wheel apart.... but I could be wrong.

And if I'm NOT wrong, that's NOT something that a wheel should do.

In those pictures, the inside of the spokes also looks like porous crap.

[wolfpack]

I watched something on Youtube about counterfeit Rotas and they do not withstand the same abuse as real Rotas or even good wheels period.

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af126/warewolf16/misc-you-dont-say.png (http://media.photobucket.com/user/warewolf16/media/misc-you-dont-say.png.html)

lmfao :rofl:

[gambit420s]

I missed this here but for your viewing pleasure,

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s261x260/557344_10201426844890588_1420655733_n.jpg

http://25.media.tumblr.com/3de1b18e302c353ce614e5c207a68ea6/tumblr_mes5s14kZb1rlxd4jo1_500.gif

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/969274_10201427229780210_201621309_n.jpg

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1175541_10201427256020866_1447160514_n.jpg

[AFSil80]

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1175541_10201427256020866_1447160514_n.jpg

Just like how the Honda B-series Hytech knockoff headers made more power than the actual Hytech headers.

My thoughts on this is that while yes, Rota fits the majority demand for a good looking wheel that allows ballers on a budget, (ie, broke ass kids) to buy something to make their car look better. I get it, cool. But they are still jacking the design of the real deal, and that in turn hurts the company that originated the design. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, sure, but it's still a petty way to make money off of someone else's originality. As the consumer, we ultimately drive the demand.

I personally have never bought a knockoff wheel for my cars, and I never will. I also don't shop at WalMart, or buy low quality shit. Am I rich? Absolutely not. But I'm not material driven, either. I don't have to have the latest and greatest smart phone/tv/car/bullshit to make me feel good, and I think that's the real core issue here...we're talking about the import scene, which has ALWAYS been about pushing the envelope into the next trendy thing, and unless you've got a money tree, you won't be able to constantly stay with the trends, so corners will be cut, Rotas will be bought, and hardparkers will park since that's all those lameass import kids know how to do since the racing has been tossed aside.

*drops the mic*

[Corbic]

Just like how the Honda B-series Hytech knockoff headers made more power than the actual Hytech headers.

My thoughts on this is that while yes, Rota fits the majority demand for a good looking wheel that allows ballers on a budget, (ie, broke ass kids) to buy something to make their car look better. I get it, cool. But they are still jacking the design of the real deal, and that in turn hurts the company that originated the design. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, sure, but it's still a petty way to make money off of someone else's originality. As the consumer, we ultimately drive the demand.

I personally have never bought a knockoff wheel for my cars, and I never will. I also don't shop at WalMart, or buy low quality shit. Am I rich? Absolutely not. But I'm not material driven, either. I don't have to have the latest and greatest smart phone/tv/car/bullshit to make me feel good, and I think that's the real core issue here...we're talking about the import scene, which has ALWAYS been about pushing the envelope into the next trendy thing, and unless you've got a money tree, you won't be able to constantly stay with the trends, so corners will be cut, Rotas will be bought, and hardparkers will park since that's all those lameass import kids know how to do since the racing has been tossed aside.

*drops the mic*

Become a fucking hot-rodder then. Then, all that matters is how much did you do your self and how fast you go.

Rotas and Broke-Kids have done nothing to with the "OMFG LEGIT WHEELS" manufactures. They can't afford $4,500 in wheels, period. It's like saying a Fossil watch is going to put Rolex out of business or that the Chrysler 300 is stealing sales from Rolls-Royce.

First - Not many "Legit or Die" owners actually buy new. Most I've met bought thier shit used. By used does not put money in to the bank of Volk.

Second - Those that bought new, truly did so because "status" and "looks" and put very little thought into any real safety concern or actual performance enhancement. A Hellaflush Stanced Tucked Crabwalk car with suspension performance in mind.

Third - If "legit" companies are so concerned, then they can adapt. Make their shit available at Tire Rack and Discount Tire, offer "budget" wheel lines. Enkei and MB are great examples. The drones accept them as "legit" and you can pick up a set new for under $1200.


Once again, by making a big stink and dropping your mic you are feeding the beast you claim to hate. No one in the Muscle Car world gives two shits about "OMFG Fake Cobra Wheels wtf!!"

[BustedS13]

Apparently the import world only cares when a bargain company rips off an expensive Japanese company.

(...proceeds to rain fire on thread)

At least Rota doesn't brand their knock offs with their competitors name. That's why they're upset. And I don't blame them, I'd be upset too.

If only I could give you green squares.

[sw20>>s14]

Apparently the import world only cares when a bargain company rips off an expensive Japanese company.

Cragar SS:
http://www.restorationperformance.com/images/store-3/crager-camaro-ss.jpg

American Racing Torque Thrust:
http://image.classictrucks.com/f/features/1305clt_1966_chevrolet_c10/43828409/1305clt-01-o%2B1966-chevrolet-c10%2Bamerican-racing-torque-thrust-20X8-front-wheel.jpg

Work VSKF:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dXFwfsbGQjg/TATYqfTS8EI/AAAAAAAAAAc/Ll1eaLvItKg/s1600/vskf+120mm+145mm.jpg

Not to mention Work Meisters vs. SSR Professors.
Everyone is ripping everyone off. Even Work CR Kai's are a rip off of stock Toyota Camry wheels from the 90s.
Camry proof:
http://www.automotix.com/images/products/wheels/aly69384u.jpg

At least Rota doesn't brand their knock offs with their competitors name. That's why they're upset. And I don't blame them, I'd be upset too.

You are so off base with your comparisons, it's not even funny. Please compare and contrast the definitions: "similar" and "replication."

:picardfp:

Also, please allow me to come up with a few more examples of copies using your logic and discerning eye:


These two:

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/iloves14/volk_zps5d8ed13e.jpg (http://s42.photobucket.com/user/iloves14/media/volk_zps5d8ed13e.jpg.html)
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/iloves14/RG2_GOLD9798_zps5d729e0a.jpg (http://s42.photobucket.com/user/iloves14/media/RG2_GOLD9798_zps5d729e0a.jpg.html)


These two:

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/iloves14/NismoLM-GT4byVolk_zpsd4bfeac0.jpg (http://s42.photobucket.com/user/iloves14/media/NismoLM-GT4byVolk_zpsd4bfeac0.jpg.html)
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/iloves14/nissan-240sx-rims-62316_zps4804dbe8.jpg (http://s42.photobucket.com/user/iloves14/media/nissan-240sx-rims-62316_zps4804dbe8.jpg.html)


These two:

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/iloves14/ssrms1_zps2f979de5.jpg (http://s42.photobucket.com/user/iloves14/media/ssrms1_zps2f979de5.jpg.html)
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/iloves14/pandacub_zpse7d4b6d7.jpg (http://s42.photobucket.com/user/iloves14/media/pandacub_zpse7d4b6d7.jpg.html)

[FRpilot]

These two:

http://adam.lazur.org/gallery/var/thumbs/lemons/teddy-wheels/panda-wheel.png?m=1322555869
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/iloves14/pandacub_zpse7d4b6d7.jpg (http://s42.photobucket.com/user/iloves14/media/pandacub_zpse7d4b6d7.jpg.html)

Panda!!!!!

[BustedS13]

When is Rota going to knock off the Ronal bear wheels in 19x11 -30 offset?

[Corbic]

When is Rota going to knock off the Ronal bear wheels in 19x11 -30 offset?

some things are sacred,

[fliprayzin240sx]

Wow, did somebody really compare cragars to VS-KFs and stated that the Work knocked them off? Similar styling yes, the same, fuck no...

[240koukiSX]

become a fucking hot-rodder then. Then, all that matters is how much did you do your self and how fast you go.

Rotas and broke-kids have done nothing to with the "omfg legit wheels" manufactures. They can't afford $4,500 in wheels, period. It's like saying a fossil watch is going to put rolex out of business or that the chrysler 300 is stealing sales from rolls-royce.

First - not many "legit or die" owners actually buy new. Most i've met bought thier shit used. By used does not put money in to the bank of volk.

Second - those that bought new, truly did so because "status" and "looks" and put very little thought into any real safety concern or actual performance enhancement. A hellaflush stanced tucked crabwalk car with suspension performance in mind.

Third - if "legit" companies are so concerned, then they can adapt. Make their shit available at tire rack and discount tire, offer "budget" wheel lines. Enkei and mb are great examples. The drones accept them as "legit" and you can pick up a set new for under $1200.


Once again, by making a big stink and dropping your mic you are feeding the beast you claim to hate. No one in the muscle car world gives two shits about "omfg fake cobra wheels wtf!!"
thank you!!!

[Banana_Cute]

And that's why i stick with my XXR's.. whewwwww

[AFSil80]

Become a fucking hot-rodder then. Then, all that matters is how much did you do your self and how fast you go.

Once again, by making a big stink and dropping your mic you are feeding the beast you claim to hate. No one in the Muscle Car world gives two shits about "OMFG Fake Cobra Wheels wtf!!"

I sold my 240 after I bought a '66 Pontiac. That being said...

I can still voice my thoughts, and my 240 was and still is nicer than half of the bullshit you see in the parking lot these days. Some of us just grew out of it and onto other cars, I guess.

[slowvia]

Wow, did somebody really compare cragars to VS-KFs and stated that the Work knocked them off? Similar styling yes, the same, fuck no...

The import community seems to hold a VERY loose definition of "knock off."

Please show me the "original" wheels that the following were copied after (and remember, by your definition, they have to be EXACTLY the same, with no visible differences);

XXR 002
http://www.imageinmotion.com/pics/xxr/002slvr.jpg

XXR 526
http://am-autoexe.com/images/uploads/XXR/resized/480_480_xxr_526_b.jpg

That's all for now. I'll wait for those pictures of the "originals." :2f2f:

[FaLKoN240]

The import community seems to hold a VERY loose definition of "knock off."

Please show me the "original" wheels that the following were copied after (and remember, by your definition, they have to be EXACTLY the same, with no visible differences);

XXR 002
http://www.imageinmotion.com/pics/xxr/002slvr.jpg

XXR 526
http://am-autoexe.com/images/uploads/XXR/resized/480_480_xxr_526_b.jpg

That's all for now. I'll wait for those pictures of the "originals." :2f2f:

Those wheels in particular take styling from the Panasport wheel and the other from the Work VS-XX.

Cragers and Work VS KF are very different. For one, the style of the spoke is way different, I can't even describe the spoke design compared to the Crager. Not to mention: the materials used, the way they're constructed, weight sizes/specs offered etc.

[Corbic]

I sold my 240 after I bought a '66 Pontiac. That being said...

I can still voice my thoughts, and my 240 was and still is nicer than half of the bullshit you see in the parking lot these days. Some of us just grew out of it and onto other cars, I guess.

When I say "hot-rodder" I'm not talking about actually 50's "hot rods" or classic cars. I'm saying embrace that mentality of "no fucks giving, I wanna go fast". I'm sure you've met plenty of these guys - the only thing that impresses them is how much blood sweat and tears you put into your ride and how fast it actually goes.

I've never seen Camaro owners bitch about "legit" body kits or whine about "knock off wheels" and I've never seen Mustang guys sit their and stroke themselves over name brand shit and fancy seats. Only on Ziliva (import community) have I ever seen someone actually remove superior aftermarket parts to replace them with "JDM" branded ones.