91 S13 Hatch First build 15 years old

[futures14drift]

This is definitely not the average thread you will read. I am 15 years old and a huge car enthusiast. Honestly, I don't even know if im old enough to be on Zilvia. But who cares about that, I recently purchased a 1991 s13 hatch, yes with all the coins in my piggy bank. I got it for $1600, 242k(or more) miles, the speedometer doesnt work, probably for a reason. Stock engine, tein springs, a newer radio, spacers and some aftermarket sway bar links. 3 rust holes in the floor, and a little exterior flaws. It runs and drives, and for $1600 it was my new project.
My plans for this car are take care of all the body work, sr20 swap it, and drift it. alot.

These pictures show the car exactly how i bought it.
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And here I am with the car so you guys know i really am only 15.Very happy day for me, haha.
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Thats just the car when i bought it. The first thing was to rip all the carpet out and paint the floor with truck bed liner, and yes i needed an 18 year old to buy the bed liner, Lol.
Starting to get all that gross carpet out.
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After it completely dried and in daylight
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Rust anyone?
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Got some racelands for the car which i already regret and hope to upgrade to something better in the future.
It took me about 2 hours to take the old springs out and put the new coils in. I got new hardware for the front strut mounts too.
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For wheels, i got BBS RS reps,17X8.5 all around really just cant afford real wheels but one day i want some baller wheels for sure.
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Ride height:
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I went with 205/40/17 tires
Had to roll my fenders, of course..
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In this picture you can see the bicycle i rode to my shop because i can't drive, Lol.
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Aero kit
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[Phlip]

Please fix your images ASAP

[futures14drift]

Please fix your images ASAP

Fixed, Sorry about that.

[ClintFiske]

Pretty cool you're doing this at age 15. I shall be watching for updates, sir.

[Reece]

Damn you're doing well for your age.

We're the same age, and here's my pile of shit 240 LOL
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You're doing awesome man. Car looks great too.

[Agent S14]

Keep it up didn't get my 240 till I was 17

[futures14drift]

I appreciate it guys. thats my miata too and i started with that thing all stock, cars are the best thing i could even think of. they keep me away from todays kind of kids and i love seeing the progress. I can promise that this is a very motivated build thread so stay tuned.

[futures14drift]

Damn you're doing well for your age.

We're the same age, and here's my pile of shit 240 LOL
https://sphotos-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/1185476_608498979201655_172940607_n.jpg
You're doing awesome man. Car looks great too.

I like it a lot man keep working on it

[wattupbaii]

how are those coilovers?

[futures14drift]

how are those coilovers?
they go pretty low. not bad for the money, ill let you know about the handling when i get it registered and my friend drives it cause i dont have my license

[snow hawk]

Hmmm.. I can dig it. Just be careful, they might lock it because its not done (the build I mean.) If thats the kit I think it is, I have one similar to it, and I love it. Just be careful, youre gunna have WAY less ground clearance than the stocks.. so you might need to raise it up some. other than that, strong start! I'm from CT originally, so I got that New England love haha:2f2f:

[soundboy]

Rims look pimp

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[zooopreme]

Trying to change my approach to fanboyish members so I'll try to keep it nice.

-Please don't plasti dip the car. If it's in a body shop, chances are they have a paint booth. Keep it a base/clear color.
-Flat paint is nice on certain cars, it looks extremely cheap on a S-Chassis
-Bed liner in the cockpit? Why? You should've removed the old sound deadening and applied new aftermarket deadening, you literally added a layer of extra gunk with no benefit.
-Raceland coilovers aren't very good coilovers for the value. A used set of Megans would've been better and I don't even like Megans.

While I know you're on a budget, your purchases are very impulsive. We were all your age at some point so we kind of understand where you're coming from with wanting a cool car this very moment. The advice/critique usually comes from the experiences a lot of us have gone through so don't take it as offensive but rather, constructive.

Good luck.

[STL240SXDRIFT]

^Truth

But keep up the build...I like to see people getting into cars young like I did.

[futures14drift]

Trying to change my approach to fanboyish members so I'll try to keep it nice.

-Please don't plasti dip the car. If it's in a body shop, chances are they have a paint booth. Keep it a base/clear color.
-Flat paint is nice on certain cars, it looks extremely cheap on a S-Chassis
-Bed liner in the cockpit? Why? You should've removed the old sound deadening and applied new aftermarket deadening, you literally added a layer of extra gunk with no benefit.
-Raceland coilovers aren't very good coilovers for the value. A used set of Megans would've been better and I don't even like Megans.

While I know you're on a budget, your purchases are very impulsive. We were all your age at some point so we kind of understand where you're coming from with wanting a cool car this very moment. The advice/critique usually comes from the experiences a lot of us have gone through so don't take it as offensive but rather, constructive.

Good luck.

Thanks for your criticism. It really does help, I am plasti dipping it with a sprayer and it will have a gloss clear coat. If i dont like it, then i will send it out to be painted. The body shop does have a paint booth but as of now they are just fixing the body. I will have to look into the floor more.

[sleepyS14se]

keep up the work man. kudos to being so young and doing as much as you are.

[futures14drift]

keep up the work man. kudos to being so young and doing as much as you are.
Thanks man i appreciate it

[s13rhdhatch]

Props for starting young,seems like good start minus the rust.I was reading how you used all your money and was about to say now your really gonna be broke but then I saw you bought other stuff so good job,keep it up and I'll be creeping.

[da_crew10]

Don't forget to relocate the fender harness dude!

[xoxide]

Zooopreme is on point with everything he said. Please please please dont turn this into another typical 18 year old drift beater.

That kits not from Japan lol Thats an AIT racing kit.


Looking forward to seeing more progress though.

[futures14drift]

Zooopreme is on point with everything he said. Please please please dont turn this into another typical 18 year old drift beater.

That kits not from Japan lol Thats an AIT racing kit.


Looking forward to seeing more progress though.

how much is the AIT racing kit?

[xoxide]

Like $5-600 new.

[futures14drift]

Like $5-600 new.

could u link me to it?

[waxball88]

You remind me of myself,
It brings a tear to my eye.
Stay with it kid!

[futures14drift]

You remind me of myself,
It brings a tear to my eye.
Stay with it kid!

Thanks man, i am staying with it for sure. I applied to the technical school this year as it will be my sophomore year in highschool. I will be taking automotive repair too

[xoxide]

could u link me to it?
No, but you can google it. lol.

[DennisS]

Nice 240 bro. I'm 16 and ill post my hatch on here soon ;]

[WristWork]

Thanks for your criticism. It really does help, I am plasti dipping it with a sprayer and it will have a gloss clear coat. If i dont like it, then i will send it out to be painted. The body shop does have a paint booth but as of now they are just fixing the body. I will have to look into the floor more.

Dont plasti dip it, I rather have it how it looks now than with cheap looking dip.
Waste of time and money, good job so far!

[chris85487]

Very nice man, and I don't think ur too young, i'm 16 and I wish I had a 240 as nice as yours haha

[izzy-]

Just paint the kit the factory color. I really like that dark gray. And if you want to plasti it, go ahead. You can always peel it off.

[Lt Shinysides]

any updates?

[vJilly]

Just curious have you been saving all this money for a long time? cause i wish i had done that.. props to you tho man.

[mechanicalmoron]

On one hand, it's cool and all, and neat that you're so young and doing this.

On the other hand, poor fenders, rolled for THAT? Car will handle like poop at that height, and the tein springs where probably better than raceland coils.

Stock color looks great, you might consider getting it resprayed or touched up and blended, raising it to correct the roll center and the front camber gain that you'll have like that, praying for forgiveness for doing that to your fenders, selling the kit, and concentrating on a reliable motor and suspension upgrades focused on performance, not looks.

Here's a great article series on why you should raise your car:

Handling and Cornering Improvment Guide - Tech - Sport Compact Car Magazine (http://www.modified.com/tech/0506_sccp_making_it_stick_part_1/viewall.html)

I assume you know this, but if not, as you'll need to know if you do read that or put any actual thought into suspension, we have macphearson front and multilink rear.

Also, I could be wrong but I assume raceland coils don't have a way of adjusting spring preload, other than height, and with my experience with entry level coils, you should ABSOLUTELY run them as high as you can, which is probably going to be as much of a drop as you should do without a bunch of suspension parts to adjust out the roll center/other changes, anyway. If you run them low you won't have enough (or any) preload, and the damping rates will probably be poorly matched to the spring rates, and being cheap the dampers are probably not going to work as well when they're already compressed that much (and may blow).

And, do you no longer have carpet? It looked just fine, better than mine and many other people's. If you don't have it, it's super ugly now.... hope you put it back.

[jp69]

No updates??

[futures14drift]

For updates so far, The car is still at the body shop but i am picking up an SR20DET on tuesday, pictures will be posted!

[futures14drift]

On one hand, it's cool and all, and neat that you're so young and doing this.

On the other hand, poor fenders, rolled for THAT? Car will handle like poop at that height, and the tein springs where probably better than raceland coils.

Stock color looks great, you might consider getting it resprayed or touched up and blended, raising it to correct the roll center and the front camber gain that you'll have like that, praying for forgiveness for doing that to your fenders, selling the kit, and concentrating on a reliable motor and suspension upgrades focused on performance, not looks.

Here's a great article series on why you should raise your car:

Handling and Cornering Improvment Guide - Tech - Sport Compact Car Magazine (http://www.modified.com/tech/0506_sccp_making_it_stick_part_1/viewall.html)

I assume you know this, but if not, as you'll need to know if you do read that or put any actual thought into suspension, we have macphearson front and multilink rear.

Also, I could be wrong but I assume raceland coils don't have a way of adjusting spring preload, other than height, and with my experience with entry level coils, you should ABSOLUTELY run them as high as you can, which is probably going to be as much of a drop as you should do without a bunch of suspension parts to adjust out the roll center/other changes, anyway. If you run them low you won't have enough (or any) preload, and the damping rates will probably be poorly matched to the spring rates, and being cheap the dampers are probably not going to work as well when they're already compressed that much (and may blow).

And, do you no longer have carpet? It looked just fine, better than mine and many other people's. If you don't have it, it's super ugly now.... hope you put it back.

Thank you for your advice. I am looking into fender flares but either way the car is going to be raised up a lot to protect the aero kit from being destroyed. Cry about me using racelands, i don't care right now. For the carpet, if you looked through all the pictures, the car had 3 holes in the floor. Water got in and created mold. I am going to replace it with black carpet.

[futures14drift]

Just curious have you been saving all this money for a long time? cause i wish i had done that.. props to you tho man.

I have a job and have been working since i was 13.

[vJilly]

I have a job and have been working since i was 13.

dude i wish i woulda done that. thats sick!

[PJ Prendergast]

i wish i had just gotten a 240 when i was 15. i wanted to get into drifting badly and ended up getting one last year after my freshman year of college. you'll have to check out limerock as well as lebanon valley for some drifting if you haven't been before. the 240's looking good so far though!

[mechanicalmoron]

Thank you for your advice. I am looking into fender flares but either way the car is going to be raised up a lot to protect the aero kit from being destroyed. Cry about me using racelands, i don't care right now. For the carpet, if you looked through all the pictures, the car had 3 holes in the floor. Water got in and created mold. I am going to replace it with black carpet.

It's cool that you're almost receptive to advice.

You seemed to miss the important parts, but ehh...

I've considered racelands myself, I'm just telling you that they will probably preform best at their highest setting, and may or may not preform any better than your tein springs. Stop being all defensive, and think about what I said, and my PERSONAL experience with cheap coilovers - being lowered even where tein told me was awful, damping didn't work right, couldn't get camber right on EITHER end, etc. Now I'm 1 inch below stock (as high as I can go) and it's great (by comparison, of course).

Again, you should really check out that article, there's lots of reason to be pretty close to stock height, unless you have aftermarket knuckles, and then, you should still figure out your ideal height, if you care about your car doing anything other than looking good.

And, make SURE that any time you change the height, you loosen and re-torque ALL bolts on rubber bushings, with the suspension laden (or, you can lower your spring seat all the way, and jack up your lca, torque it all, and then put the seat back where you had it.) If you don't do this, you'll rip out the rubber bushings, and rubber is waaaay better than polyurethane for multilink.

[Reece]

Keep the car where it is. It's fine for what you want to do.

[ayrtonlucyk]

where did you get those bbs reps?

[futures14drift]

Update!!
Today i picked up my new to me SR20DET. I got it off a fellow Zilvia member, "lt shinysides +1 to him, great person, met me half way and is a very fair person that gained my trust. Thanks, Hunter.
Anyways... This SR20 has 42k miles on it, built head, BC valves, BC springs, BC 264/272 cams, APR studs, 550cc injectors, isis rs3871 turbo, isis tubular manifold, aem v2 already tuned,custom tucked harness. Compression test goes: 155,153,154,155.
Also came with radiator, intercooler, bov, intercooler piping, fans, all lines, and a 1 piece driveshaft. Very happy with what i got.

Picture of me unloading the engine with the forklift at my shop.
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Intercooler piping
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Aem v2 already tuned
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As you can see this motor was taken very well care of, everything is all taped up very well.
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Picture of it in the previous owners car
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More parts
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Shiny...
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Dat valve cover tho..
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I am going to Florida till next tuesday and then i start school. I hope to have it up and running in one weekend. I will keep you guys updated! Thanks for reading.

[Reece]

You're making quick progress on this car. Damn. Can't wait to see that thing go in!

[vJilly]

Jealous doesnt even describe! thats awesome!

[Grocery Cart]

Pretty awesome, I didnt get my first s13 until I was 17. Two years overdue.

[bblack_91240]

I love that you're doing this at such a young age! I think everyone can think back to their first 240 and reminisce! I got my first at 18 and I SR swapped it, z32 brakes, 5 lug, etc... I ended up selling it and regretted it so much. 5 years later I've had 4 240s and I just recently got my first one back from the kid I sold it to and it had 4 different SRs in it because the kid keep blowing them up. Word of advise, double check that the oil pan isn't dented from being transported or say bye bye to that nice SR! Also, if you keep it long enough I'm sure it will see many different stages. First car I bought was a civic and I wanted it to look like a fast and furious car. Now I just laugh at that. Your style will probably change, but your passion for cars will never die! Ask my wife! I drive her crazy haha Slam it, drive it, drift it... Who really gives a flying F*** about suspension geometry that drives a 240? I'm gonna say a very small portion of people that actually race their cars only. Best of luck man! Subscribed!!!:2f2f:

[futures14drift]

I love that you're doing this at such a young age! I think everyone can think back to their first 240 and reminisce! I got my first at 18 and I SR swapped it, z32 brakes, 5 lug, etc... I ended up selling it and regretted it so much. 5 years later I've had 4 240s and I just recently got my first one back from the kid I sold it to and it had 4 different SRs in it because the kid keep blowing them up. Word of advise, double check that the oil pan isn't dented from being transported or say bye bye to that nice SR! Also, if you keep it long enough I'm sure it will see many different stages. First car I bought was a civic and I wanted it to look like a fast and furious car. Now I just laugh at that. Your style will probably change, but your passion for cars will never die! Ask my wife! I drive her crazy haha Slam it, drive it, drift it... Who really gives a flying F*** about suspension geometry that drives a 240? I'm gonna say a very small portion of people that actually race their cars only. Best of luck man! Subscribed!!!:2f2f:

Thank you...i will check the oil pan thanks for that.. and yes i drift like crazy ahhaa

[Big Zee]

Trying to change my approach to fanboyish members so I'll try to keep it nice.

-Please don't plasti dip the car. If it's in a body shop, chances are they have a paint booth. Keep it a base/clear color.
-Flat paint is nice on certain cars, it looks extremely cheap on a S-Chassis
-Bed liner in the cockpit? Why? You should've removed the old sound deadening and applied new aftermarket deadening, you literally added a layer of extra gunk with no benefit.
-Raceland coilovers aren't very good coilovers for the value. A used set of Megans would've been better and I don't even like Megans.

While I know you're on a budget, your purchases are very impulsive. We were all your age at some point so we kind of understand where you're coming from with wanting a cool car this very moment. The advice/critique usually comes from the experiences a lot of us have gone through so don't take it as offensive but rather, constructive.

Good luck.

Amen!!
Please don't plastidip the car, its got great paint on it now, just have the kit paint matched and away you go.

[truckmtrS13]

lost me at plasti dip....

[Oakville]

Jealous doesnt even describe! thats awesome!

you can say that again! Having this car, nevermind the work you've done on it, all before you have your damn drivers license is killer man.

I thought getting my first GT-R when I was 18 was pretty killer haha. or my first skyline before that, an R32 sedan in less than mint shape

Keep it up buddy, just don't do what I did and postpone/decide against post-secondary education to keep a car. Very lucky I had a second chance. Unless your future career doesn't require schooling...then giv'er buddy.

[futures14drift]

So today i got back from my vacation, and i start school tomorrow. My plan today was to work from when i got home (around 4:30 PM, till about 10:00 PM) and work on pulling the ka during that time, but the tow company was "too busy" to pick my car up and bring it to my shop even with an call 8 hrs in advance. I will be working on the car thursday friday and the rest of the weekend, i will keep you guys updated!

[SupaDoopa]

Wait. You bought racelands and rep wheels but then dropped serious coin on a dope motor setup? Seems legit.

Where in MA you located? You on 240SXONE?

[futures14drift]

Wait. You bought racelands and rep wheels but then dropped serious coin on a dope motor setup? Seems legit.

Where in MA you located? You on 240SXONE?

Nope, and Stoughton MA. Yes, i absolutely did that. Should i go buy a nissan sentra motor and expect some power? I bought reps because im not dropping $3k on work wheels at 15 years old, come on man...racelands are a different story..i will probably be buying new suspension within the next year or 2.

[pacotaco345]

Nope, and Stoughton MA. Yes, i absolutely did that. Should i go buy a nissan sentra motor and expect some power? I bought reps because im not dropping $3k on work wheels at 15 years old, come on man...racelands are a different story..i will probably be buying new suspension within the next year or 2.

Technically an sr20 is a sentra motor...

[LuckyRPS13]

To be young with disposable income.

My 2 cents, Hang on to every thing you pull off the car. It can be resold to help fund the project.

Sr20's can be found in a large number of Nissan made cars from Sentra, G20, Silvia, 180SX, NX2000, Pulsar, and at least a dozen more. Unfortunately none of the USDM models were RWD.

[SupaDoopa]

Nope, and Stoughton MA. Yes, i absolutely did that. Should i go buy a nissan sentra motor and expect some power? I bought reps because im not dropping $3k on work wheels at 15 years old, come on man...racelands are a different story..i will probably be buying new suspension within the next year or 2.

I'm not saying a bad move. I'm saying something doesn't seem right. You went from saying you were poor because of your age to dropping obviously a couple grand on a motor set a very short period of time later.

Dope Sentra motor. @[email protected]

[Grocery Cart]

You seem to get a little defensive really easily.
Anyway, looks good so far.

[TheFresHesT]

Wow great start and at a young age I can wait to see where this car goes in the next ten years...

Best of luck to you

[futures14drift]

Sorry if i seem defensive, but i'm just saying like i need to spend the money on the motor because it is a far more important upgrade than suspension and wheels. And about the sr20 i knew it was in different cars but i was wrong..yea. lol. Working on pulling the ka tonight after work ill post an update!

[theStig880]

Sorry if i seem defensive, but i'm just saying like i need to spend the money on the motor because it is a far more important upgrade than suspension and wheels. And about the sr20 i knew it was in different cars but i was wrong..yea. lol. Working on pulling the ka tonight after work ill post an update!

Ehhhh. I dunno about that. The engine is important but I would say the suspension is at least equal or more important. Whats the point of having power if you can't use it? That said, your car is pretty dope for being 15. When I got my car at 15 I fucked it up with spray paint and stickerbombin. I learned the hard way to just do it right once and be done. Now when you do get new coils you just lost 500 bucks from the shitty racelands. Why spend 1700 instead of 1200 once? Just food for thought.

[mechanicalmoron]

Sorry if i seem defensive, but i'm just saying like i need to spend the money on the motor because it is a far more important upgrade than suspension and wheels. And about the sr20 i knew it was in different cars but i was wrong..yea. lol. Working on pulling the ka tonight after work ill post an update!

Maybe you should get into american cars?

Even with all that money, you know that you did NOT get a powerful motor, right? More powerful, but still not powerful. It can almost compete with that $500 oldsmobile boat you can pick up down the street.

[status_ryan]

Props for getting started out the gate. I admire that. I didn't have the balls to even change my own oil when I was 15. Let alone do a swap. Haha. Nice sr20 though. Really digging that! Keep it up! :hug:

[gbaby2089]

Sorry if i seem defensive, but i'm just saying like i need to spend the money on the motor because it is a far more important upgrade than suspension and wheels. And about the sr20 i knew it was in different cars but i was wrong..yea. lol. Working on pulling the ka tonight after work ill post an update!

Engine is not 'far more important' than suspension and wheels. If it is, you might not want it loaded with trash ISIS parts.

How about instead of blowing $575 on a $500 body kit, you stay stock body, buy Stance GR+ (or w/e the replacement is) or PBM's, sell those trash BBS knock-offs and pick up some 15" SSR/other old school wheel.

Then you get the following:
-Cool engine/drivetrain
-Cool suspension
-Cool wheels
-Cool car

Cars aren't hard.

[xoxide]

Suspension/braking is 1000 times more important than a faster motor, anyone that argues against that is a fucking idiot.

Assuming you are wanting to drift- Learning in a low powered car with a well build suspension setup will make you a much better driver. Most every good driver will tell you they learned on an underpowered car. Even with a higher powered motor you will not be able to push the car very hard on stock suspension/brakes, or racelands for that matter because they have horrible valving/dampening as do most cheap coilover kits.


Also anyone who says screw suspension geometry is a moron. Having properly build suspension (if you're going to slam it you will need to correct bump steer, ackerman, etc etcc) is crucial to having a well performing car whether it is drift, auto x, time attack, ANY form of motorsport. Now if you're just going to be hard parking the car, then fuck it- disregard what ive said.

Last- Something that many people make (and you're young so learn from this and dont keep wasting money)- buying cheap parts and saying "oh well, ill just replace them soon for something better" will only cost you more money in the long run. Think about it, you just spent what, $600 bucks on racelands? Youll be lucky to sell them for $3-400. Rather than rushing to make your car look cool being slammed sitting in the garage, save your money for quality parts and let it sit stock a little longer. Id recommend looking into a set of Fortune Auto 500 series coilovers.

Not being an asshole, just trying to vere you in the right direction.

[KiLLeR2001]

Suspension, brakes, and wheels (with the correct amount of rubber.)

[futures14drift]

I mean at this time right NOW, in my cars stage, with a shitty engine that leaked oil everywhere, i needed to upgrade the engine first.

[futures14drift]

UPDATE!!

Pulled the KA tonight, and its out. A lot of cleaing to do and filling in a lot of holes i dont need. Ill be cleaning and prepping the engine bay for paint tomorrow.
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[mechanicalmoron]

I mean at this time right NOW, in my cars stage, with a shitty engine that leaked oil everywhere, i needed to upgrade the engine first.

Or you could have checked it's health with a compression test, and if it checked out, pulled it and resealed it all for a couple hundred dollars, at most. And using that money, you could have had a much nicer, tighter, more precise suspension.

I hope to god when you say you filled holes, you didn't go and bondo a bunch of screw holes in the engine bay, sounds like a great way to have the bare threads rust out (being in the northeast) when water inevitably gets in from the back. It might make more sense to just paint them to seal them, so when you have things to mount you'll have a place to mount them.

[zooopreme]

I was hoping my initial advice would help steer you into a nicer direction but you lost me at "power will be more important than suspension/braking." You think those single piston brakes are going to stop you with your 39073682hp that you plan on swapping into your car?

Anyway, I hope that you get bored of this build within a year and "move on" to better/more challenging "builds"

[futures14drift]

Or you could have checked it's health with a compression test, and if it checked out, pulled it and resealed it all for a couple hundred dollars, at most. And using that money, you could have had a much nicer, tighter, more precise suspension.

I hope to god when you say you filled holes, you didn't go and bondo a bunch of screw holes in the engine bay, sounds like a great way to have the bare threads rust out (being in the northeast) when water inevitably gets in from the back. It might make more sense to just paint them to seal them, so when you have things to mount you'll have a place to mount them.

I never even said i filled the holes, i said i was going to. And just because im young does not mean i don't know how to approach things. I plan to weld a bead and sand it down to prep for paint.

About the suspension, my bad for not explaing well enough. I meant as in upgrade wise and what NEEDS to be taken care of. I plan to re do my whole suspension like control arms, etc with quality parts. Sorry that my build is not at a fast pace as i attend high school. Im working on the suspension as soon as i can.

[gbaby2089]

Just because you're in high school doesn't mean you can't put emphasis on the right areas of the car.

[TheFresHesT]

Futures14drift everyone has to start somewhere on there car you started with the motor and that's cool, don't let everyone and there 2cents bother you. I did it the same way, I built the hell out of my motor and then got brakes to handle the power the motor could put out ( if I would of gone with z32 calipers I know I would feel comfortable with them...I rather buy one product instead of going though several pairs as my needs advance, now I have wildwood 6 pistons on the car)

Last note.

It's you car do what ever the f u want to it.

[andisan]

Yeah good job, better than what I did with my first 240, which sat in the garage for 10 years, keep it up, all the advice everyone is giving you is good but bottom line is, it's your car and your money you can do whatever you want with it. Everyone just wishes they have done it right the first time but in reality it's just how life is, full of mistakes it's how you use that lesson for the next project in life.

Good job with the build

[Slippin'eight-nine]

I mean at this time right NOW, in my cars stage, with a shitty engine that leaked oil everywhere, i needed to upgrade the engine first.
I hear u on that one! My KA was on its last leg when it got pulled. It even caught fire! Haha!
I built my last car the same way. Power before the rest. The main reason I did it that way instead of chassis first was the cost. The Sr and all its extras was by far the most expensive part of the build. The rest of the stuff like brakes, coilovers, and arms I bought as time went on. Smaller amounts of money to part with.
With more power though u will notice the things that are lacking a lot sooner!
Goodluck! And NO plastidip

[SupaDoopa]

And just because im young does not mean i don't know how to approach things..

No offense, but having to ask people whether a RB20, SR20, or 2JZGE is better kind of debunks your statement. It comes off to me that you didn't do much research about the chassis or swaps before you got it. The motorset you got is great but for the money, I wouldn't say the best. Personally, a suspension and brakes would have been my first route of attack but hey, we all start somewhere.

I applaud you on getting a motorset that looks complete and quality - and expensive because I recall seeing Lt Shinysides thread - but 3K could have gotten you brand new PBMs, all the control arms, brakes, and still money to spare to keep that KA ticking until you did a little more research to choose a motor that truly fits your goals.

That's just my two cents and neither my opinion or anyone elses on here should veer your thinking. We're just giving you a heads up on the routes we have taken and what we would have changed/the routes we took and feel like we wouldn't change a thing. Suspension, brakes, and fixing all the fucked up shit you inherited by buying the car are always the first things to taken - at least in my opinion.

I wish you luck and I hope you realize we're here to help and not break you down. If you get defensive thinking we are bashing, you're in for a treat. I'll continue you following your build. If you ever need help, let me know. I'm local [will be in a month or so when I move back to MA] and never mind wrenching.

[mechanicalmoron]

I never even said i filled the holes, i said i was going to. And just because im young does not mean i don't know how to approach things. I plan to weld a bead and sand it down to prep for paint.

About the suspension, my bad for not explaing well enough. I meant as in upgrade wise and what NEEDS to be taken care of. I plan to re do my whole suspension like control arms, etc with quality parts. Sorry that my build is not at a fast pace as i attend high school. Im working on the suspension as soon as i can.

Ehh it's still burning your bridges. What if you need a ka back in there at some point? what if you want to sell it? what if you move somewhere they have emissions and you've got to at least mock the stuff up every so often? Why would you do something entirely unnecessary but very time consuming, when it could end in a whole lot more trouble? I was not under the impression this was a show car.

It seems impulsive, like some of your other choices... like you're itchy to do SOMETHING to the car, but don't much care what that something is.

As others have said, not bashing you as a person, or your overall aspirations or enjoyment of cars. Just trying to give some outside perspective, that might help you.

[kevinphan]

If you still have your KA and want to sell the motor, trans, engine harness let me know I live in MA as well. You should join up on 240sxone.com its a local New England forum.

[futures14drift]

If you still have your KA and want to sell the motor, trans, engine harness let me know I live in MA as well. You should join up on 240sxone.com its a local New England forum.

I have the engine and harness no more tranny. Let me know.

Also to the other posts; i posted about the sr20/rb/2jz before i got into research. My mistake. I decided not to fill in the holes as yes its very time consuming and not worth it for this car. I dont think you people understand i wanted an sr20. I dont give a shit if you think i should of done something else first. Im building my car for me for a reason. Got my bay all cleaned up and ready for paint tonight. Will update

[futures14drift]

By the way everyone, i got into my local tech school and i wanted to take auto repair but there was only a spot for auto body which is fine because i will still learn a lot of welding, etc and hopefuly be able to transfer to auto repair this year. I will probably fix all my rust at school and also PAINT the car!! So no plasti dip.

[wattupbaii]

Dahm, when you started everybody commending you because your young. As soon as you try to put an sr in everybody attacks lol. But they're half right, I've been buying cheap parts forever and its a gamble. I still haven't learned my lesson.

[gbaby2089]

Being 19 and buying parts 'forever' are mutually exclusive terms.

[wattupbaii]

Being 19 and buying parts 'forever' are mutually exclusive terms.

I got the benjamin button disease, I age backwards. So respect your elders son.

[crzsteveo]

ill be here in a few months waiting for the partout when he drifts it lol.

if you really just wanted to drift, you wasted all this time and money. its okay to buy the SR but you should of started drifting with the KA until it blew up. you don't need a license to drift. kits, paint, all this other crap is unnecessary.

all you need was to weld your diff and get spares. that's it. now youll be starting on a platform you have no idea how it handles because its to advance for a beginner and all I see and many other members on here is that you will struggle with getting it to drift.

[futures14drift]

ill be here in a few months waiting for the partout when he drifts it lol.

if you really just wanted to drift, you wasted all this time and money. its okay to buy the SR but you should of started drifting with the KA until it blew up. you don't need a license to drift. kits, paint, all this other crap is unnecessary.

all you need was to weld your diff and get spares. that's it. now youll be starting on a platform you have no idea how it handles because its to advance for a beginner and all I see and many other members on here is that you will struggle with getting it to drift.

Pretty sure i wont crash this if i can drift a e36 m3 just fine, but ill make sure to let you know about the part out!

[SupaDoopa]

The M3 is a completely different chassis. Just because you can slide a M3, doesn't mean you can slide anything known to man. Telling people to fuck off and you don't care about their opinion doesn't really help the cause of wanting helpful feedback. Just saying. Good luck with whatever it is you plan on doing.

[futures14drift]

The M3 is a completely different chassis. Just because you can slide a M3, doesn't mean you can slide anything known to man. Telling people to fuck off and you don't care about their opinion doesn't really help the cause of wanting helpful feedback. Just saying. Good luck with whatever it is you plan on doing.

I don't mean to seem like a dick or anything but everyones attacking me for no reason. I want a good motor before good suspension for many reasons. I dont want that shitty KA leaking oil all over my shop, and i want to do a swap before i get my permit and have it up and running perfect.

[vJilly]

whats with all the hate? its his car he can do whatever he wants.

[crzsteveo]

Pretty sure i wont crash this if i can drift a e36 m3 just fine, but ill make sure to let you know about the part out!

well god dam you didn't say you had some drifting under your belt lol post some vids up man!

[mr.nismo.]

Holy shit people need to chill out. Keep going man, it's your car. I get told all the time that my 240 is a pile of shit. Guess what? Idgaf because I know what I've got in it. Yes I would've made diff decisions knowing what I know now but do what you want. You can cheap on some stuff just DO NOT CHEAP OUT ON SAFETY. Seat belts, seats, steering wheels, cages, etc. cheap wheels? My xxrs took a curb at 30mph and just have outer scratches, so don't let people say shit. Keep it up, I will defiantly be checking into this thread.

[SupaDoopa]

Wow. 2012/2013ers always take things to heart. Sweet Jesus. We made suggestions, not bash [well, some of the dingleberries did bash him which is childish as fuck]. Like I said. I wish you the best. Make sure you also join 240SXONE.

[futures14drift]

well god dam you didn't say you had some drifting under your belt lol post some vids up man!

no good videos yet

[futures14drift]

well god dam you didn't say you had some drifting under your belt lol post some vids up man!

E36 M3 Drifting - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP2QIIWtiAE&feature=c4-overview&list=UUd9laZVPeeoQymXcBcJsa6w)

not really drifting but well controlled donuts

[gbaby2089]

That's not even close to drifting.

[futures14drift]

Update!!! Finished painting my bay last night, and today i started my miata turbo project. I have had my miata for a few months now, it was my first car. i put coils, wheels, front lip, rolled the fenders and dipped it..nothing special.
Primer
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Sorry for the bad photos, they don't do justice. Ill be sure to take some with my camera ASAP.

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Turbo Miata...

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[theStig880]

How the hell do you afford all this.

[mechanicalmoron]

How the hell do you afford all this.

And, how the hell do you think that only being able to afford trash parts, and just for the time being, is an argument.... do you use the same one to put trash on your OTHER cars?

[futures14drift]

How the hell do you afford all this.

we are boosting the miata with parts that arent being used around my friends shop, its 100% free

[thefro526]

This has been an interesting read for sure, you definitely have some skills with a wrench, I'll give you that - and you seem to have work ethic that's uncommon in even grown men.

What I can't wrap my head around is how you use your age as both a self-compliment and an excuse. On one hand, you mention that your 15 as if we should all be impressed that you're making moves and building 240, but on the other, the first thing that you mention when someone criticizes your decisions is that you're 15 and in high school... I Don't get it.

If you really wanted to be a boss, or do it right, you wouldn't be building a stereotypical 15 year old kids 240.

The purchase of the kit, the wheels (although they're kind of cool), the mention of the plasti dip, and the reasonably powerful SR are all moves that your stereotypical kid in High School with a 240 will make.

Looking at the whole thing, you obviously have a decent source of income, and an awesome place to turn wrenches. Why not build something awesome? It seems like you're rushing this build, with a retrospective (in that you plan to fix stuff later) attitude, when realistically, you've got a solid year or two before you'll actually be driving this thing on the street. In that time considering the resources you appear to have access to, you could build damn near anything you want... But instead, you build a slammed on Racelands, ugly kitted S13 with a grossly over powered SR.

Think about it dude, I'm not even trying to hate, I'm trying to make you think. If you slow down a click or three, think about what you can achieve.

[futures14drift]

This has been an interesting read for sure, you definitely have some skills with a wrench, I'll give you that - and you seem to have work ethic that's uncommon in even grown men.

What I can't wrap my head around is how you use your age as both a self-compliment and an excuse. On one hand, you mention that your 15 as if we should all be impressed that you're making moves and building 240, but on the other, the first thing that you mention when someone criticizes your decisions is that you're 15 and in high school... I Don't get it.

If you really wanted to be a boss, or do it right, you wouldn't be building a stereotypical 15 year old kids 240.

The purchase of the kit, the wheels (although they're kind of cool), the mention of the plasti dip, and the reasonably powerful SR are all moves that your stereotypical kid in High School with a 240 will make.

Looking at the whole thing, you obviously have a decent source of income, and an awesome place to turn wrenches. Why not build something awesome? It seems like you're rushing this build, with a retrospective (in that you plan to fix stuff later) attitude, when realistically, you've got a solid year or two before you'll actually be driving this thing on the street. In that time considering the resources you appear to have access to, you could build damn near anything you want... But instead, you build a slammed on Racelands, ugly kitted S13 with a grossly over powered SR.

Think about it dude, I'm not even trying to hate, I'm trying to make you think. If you slow down a click or three, think about what you can achieve.

This is the best comment on this thread, thank you i will definatley be reconsidering many many things and keeping this in my head. Update this weekend hopefully the motor will go in.

[l2u4k0assx]

I completely agree with thefro526^. I have a hatch that i have been tearing down over the last few years. You would appreciate it more in the long run if you took it slower.

[BenRice]

My 17yo cousin had this stereotypical mindset you all talk of, and to your credit you listen better than he does. At least you don't have grand expectations on the cheap parts, you know they will need replacing and arent expecting it to handle amazingly.

I've driven some utter bags of shit when tutoring, some with good quality parts, some with crap. A lot of it is in how it is all set up. The better quality (PBM, Tein, etc) drove much better when set up properly, whereas the crap stuff (XYZ, D2) handled "sufficently" to learn in but still not as well the quality stuff. I guess what i'm saying is expect to spend time getting the settings right and dont be surprised at gear failures.

On the flip side and speaking from experience i have had cheap chinese-made camber and toe arms in the rear of my car for the past 4 years with no issues (incl 20+ days of HARD track drifting). Full coils are another matter though, i've seen way too many cheap brands snap struts.

What is your inspiration for the build? When i say that i dont mean what you want to make it look exactly like, but what you think looks good in an S13/240. I think if you've got the right influences as well as the means to make what you want happen then it will turn out good in the end.

[Thedriftbadger]

Jesus Christ you guys are ripping this kid apart. It's his first build. This is where you learn how to do it. If he wants to do the motor first then let him do it. My god you all get so up tight about other people's shit. Give him a fucking break he's doing bigger things than half the people on here and all you can talk about about is fake wheels and cheap coils? I'm sure every person commenting on this built a perfect car their first try when they were 15. You talk about him being a stereotypical teenager, well that's because he is! Didn't we all want a big turbo fast car in high school? It's one thing to be tough cool zilvia guys and another thing to just go thread to thread making asshole comments about other peoples cars.

Op, do your thing man, it's your car. Build it how you want it.
And about the racelands that everyone hates, i've been drifting/dailying them for 5 months now with 0 problems. These guys just see the word raceland and flip shit and you're automatically retarded in their eyes, don't take it to the heart. I've heard more complaints with ksports than racelands. They ride a hell of a lot better than megans too. Keep this thread up to date i'd like to see your experience with them compared to mine. Good luck with the build.
Btw fix your rear fitment it's jacked.

[futures14drift]

Jesus Christ you guys are ripping this kid apart. It's his first build. This is where you learn how to do it. If he wants to do the motor first then let him do it. My god you all get so up tight about other people's shit. Give him a fucking break he's doing bigger things than half the people on here and all you can talk about about is fake wheels and cheap coils? I'm sure every person commenting on this built a perfect car their first try when they were 15. You talk about him being a stereotypical teenager, well that's because he is! Didn't we all want a big turbo fast car in high school? It's one thing to be tough cool zilvia guys and another thing to just go thread to thread making asshole comments about other peoples cars.

Op, do your thing man, it's your car. Build it how you want it.
And about the racelands that everyone hates, i've been drifting/dailying them for 5 months now with 0 problems. These guys just see the word raceland and flip shit and you're automatically retarded in their eyes, don't take it to the heart. I've heard more complaints with ksports than racelands. They ride a hell of a lot better than megans too. Keep this thread up to date i'd like to see your experience with them compared to mine. Good luck with the build.
Btw fix your rear fitment it's jacked.

Well said...thank you. and what do you mean my rear fitment is jacked?

[Reece]

Jesus Christ you guys are ripping this kid apart. It's his first build. This is where you learn how to do it. If he wants to do the motor first then let him do it. My god you all get so up tight about other people's shit. Give him a fucking break he's doing bigger things than half the people on here and all you can talk about about is fake wheels and cheap coils? I'm sure every person commenting on this built a perfect car their first try when they were 15. You talk about him being a stereotypical teenager, well that's because he is! Didn't we all want a big turbo fast car in high school? It's one thing to be tough cool zilvia guys and another thing to just go thread to thread making asshole comments about other peoples cars.

Op, do your thing man, it's your car. Build it how you want it.
And about the racelands that everyone hates, i've been drifting/dailying them for 5 months now with 0 problems. These guys just see the word raceland and flip shit and you're automatically retarded in their eyes, don't take it to the heart. I've heard more complaints with ksports than racelands. They ride a hell of a lot better than megans too. Keep this thread up to date i'd like to see your experience with them compared to mine. Good luck with the build.
Btw fix your rear fitment it's jacked.
+1

I don't get why everyone is bitching about what a 15 year old kid is doing with his car. It's hard for a 15 year old to even get a 240 let alone a 240 with coils, wheels, aero, and soon an awesome SR20 swap. Fucking hell guys, I think he's doing super well for his age, and he's doing super well period. I like this car so far, a lot. Give him a break, christ. No 15 year old has the money to buy $1500 Stance Coilovers and $2500 Wheels and $1000 Aero, unless their parents pay for it.

This car is the shit. What he is doing is better than probably 90% of the people on this site did when they were 15-16.

So, anyway. When are you gonna get that diff welded?

[Thedriftbadger]

Well said...thank you. and what do you mean my rear fitment is jacked?

It's sunken in looking. Some spacers and lift it up just a little. Tires are kinda small for 17's too. Not a big deal, just something i noticed. Everything else is looking good

[xoxide]

E36 M3 Drifting - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP2QIIWtiAE&feature=c4-overview&list=UUd9laZVPeeoQymXcBcJsa6w)

not really drifting but well controlled donuts


Wait... Is this you?!
E36 "Drifting" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ux9yJrnVzQ)

[mechanicalmoron]

Lol. He knows how to drift, thank you very much, he's done donuts in the rain in an m3 so he can officially drift.

[DJZ]

E36 M3 Drifting - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP2QIIWtiAE&feature=c4-overview&list=UUd9laZVPeeoQymXcBcJsa6w)

not really drifting but well controlled donuts

lol drifting? :picardfp:so you have an m3 a miata and an sr 240? I wish my mom bought me nice things:hey:

[futures14drift]

lol drifting? :picardfp:so you have an m3 a miata and an sr 240? I wish my mom bought me nice things:hey:

Hahhha good one. The M3 is my brothers. My mom doesnt pay for a dam thing, ive been working for the past 2 years.

[futures14drift]

Okay guys talk all you want about the m3 i will gladly post real drift videos of the 240sx. Welding my diff as soon as i can and im raising the back too just havent got to it. Need to buy a new turbo because Lt Shinysides sold me a motor with a blown turbo. Little setback but im going to order it today and go back to being broke.

[Reece]

Lol. He knows how to drift, thank you very much, he's done donuts in the rain in an m3 so he can officially drift.

Don't be ripping on a kid for learning. Doing controlled donuts is one of a few great ways for beginners to learn car control. At least he's not out street drifting and crashing like lots of beginners do...

I don't get why everyone is ripping on him for being young and learning. Every drifter started out and sucked, too. It's a part of learning.

[snow hawk]

Fro and Soopa seem to be the only two adults in this whole thing...

The people yelling at other people for bashing are actually making this a millon times worse.

Yes, let me be original and say "FUCK THE HATERS".. typically, if you're thinking of saying it, chances are, 15 other "heroes" have already said it, champ.

Fro and Soopa have the right idea.

Soopa even offered to HELP you, and you got all defensive. What you do need to realize is

A) You're posting on an INTERNET FORUM.. specifically ZILVIA.
B) Not everyone going to agree with you. Deal with it.
C) They say these things because they've either dealt with it themselves, or they have experience with it.

Moral of the story, Everyone quit with the "FUCK THE HATERS YO DO YOU" its not original, and chances are, its already been said. And kid, if you can't take constructive critisism, or handle the big bad internet, you might as well lock this forum now. No one respects a keyboard warrior. And at a minimum, I would THANK Soopa for the offer, and take him up on it. You might learn a thing or two, its nice to talk to other people about builds, and through that, you meet more people.

[7x13]

Welcome to Zilvia, Home of the Elitist A-Holes of the S-Chassis Community.

Kudos on the build.
I would of personally driven the KA til it blows and replaced it then and invested the money on spent on the SR on suspension components (Control Arms, Tie Rods, etc.) but I'm rather impressed with the quality of the build so far for your Age.

Build your car for you not for others.

Looking forward to seeing more.

sub'd.

[JoeyTheKid]

You have in front of you opportunities that the majority of people here never had/might not ever have. Everyone was 15 once, fuck when I was 15 I dumped an ungodly amount of money into an IROC Camaro in my pursuit of speed and drift kingship, so in a sense you could be doing a lot worse lol. Despite some of the criticism that might stem from jealousy, a lot of it is constructive. Like others have said if someone gives you advice, be grateful for it. If you don't agree with it, so be it, but there's no real point in trying to justify your opinion to someone who already has theirs set in stone, you're not going to change their minds so why try. Keep on keepin' on little man and don't think that you need to justify your actions to look cool, like snow hawk said, it's an internet forum, specifically one that is brutal regardless of what you do or say.

[futures14drift]

Update...

Finished peeling all the masking tape from the engine bay. Love the way it came out. I would of dropped the motor in today but just a minor setback. Anyways, just ordered the new one today so waiting on that and i will be dropping the motor in ASAP. After that is wiring and then final touches for the engine.
Also some pics of my brothers e36 m3 5.0 swap.
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5518/9732766013_a9c76b850f_b.jpg
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3756/9732767695_cc3dde08c3_b.jpg

[Thedriftbadger]

What's wrong with the turbo?

[futures14drift]

What's wrong with the turbo?

Blown beyond rebuild. Tons of shaft play but its whatever

[mechanicalmoron]

So you slammed it so far it looked silly, rolled the fenders, and now (having ruined them) you're raising the rear, when the front is the part that really doesn't take well to lowering?

I see, from the miata's fenders, that you're following a formula here.

Don't get me wrong, I 100% stand behind you raising it. Just think about it, if you do something wrong admit it (at least to yourself) and have it be a learning experience, do better next time. You don't have to duplicate all your mistakes on two cars. Aero and rolled fenders are something you do do accomidate other excessive modifications, like massive wheels, and you do those so that you can have massive rubber on the ground, not so that you can have rolled fenders and skinny tires and be too lowered, if this all makes sense. Just consider that nearly everything you've done is cosmetic, and/or a downgrade (other than the engine, obviously).... and then think about that money going into gas and tires, and the amount of fun you could have had, without any ricey side-effects on your car, or perminant damage like rolled fenders.

By the way, are those 205's on the new wheels? If so, my personal advice (yeah, you won't listen, I know) is sell them, stock aluminium wheels look great (IMO) and it won't be a tragedy if you drift into something, and are about as wide as your bigger wheels. Your car will behave better with smaller wheels if they're the same width, anyway.

I probably said this and your car friend probably knows, but make absolute sure you break and re-torque all the bushings to the new height, any time you change it

tl/dr: not saying I don't dig you playing with the car, just that the car would work better for you and you'd have more money to do what's important with it, if you put it back to stock height and wheels, and went and drove it instead.

[poundit]

he is doing alot better than me haha. Im 23 and I didnt get my first non lemon 240 till a few weeks ago. And all i have order is a hub adapter so i can put my steering wheel on that ive had for months.

Kid just learn from your mistakes. Nobody should expect someone your age to do EVERYTHING right. Its just part of it. I had a pretty gay ricey looking hyundai accent when i was 16 and whenever i blew the motor and started researching i learned how to do things a better way.

[futures14drift]

So you slammed it so far it looked silly, rolled the fenders, and now (having ruined them) you're raising the rear, when the front is the part that really doesn't take well to lowering?

I see, from the miata's fenders, that you're following a formula here.

Don't get me wrong, I 100% stand behind you raising it. Just think about it, if you do something wrong admit it (at least to yourself) and have it be a learning experience, do better next time. You don't have to duplicate all your mistakes on two cars. Aero and rolled fenders are something you do do accomidate other excessive modifications, like massive wheels, and you do those so that you can have massive rubber on the ground, not so that you can have rolled fenders and skinny tires and be too lowered, if this all makes sense. Just consider that nearly everything you've done is cosmetic, and/or a downgrade (other than the engine, obviously).... and then think about that money going into gas and tires, and the amount of fun you could have had, without any ricey side-effects on your car, or perminant damage like rolled fenders.

By the way, are those 205's on the new wheels? If so, my personal advice (yeah, you won't listen, I know) is sell them, stock aluminium wheels look great (IMO) and it won't be a tragedy if you drift into something, and are about as wide as your bigger wheels. Your car will behave better with smaller wheels if they're the same width, anyway.

I probably said this and your car friend probably knows, but make absolute sure you break and re-torque all the bushings to the new height, any time you change it

tl/dr: not saying I don't dig you playing with the car, just that the car would work better for you and you'd have more money to do what's important with it, if you put it back to stock height and wheels, and went and drove it instead.

First off, i only rolled the lip of the fenders so they dont cut into the tires. I never ruined the fenders because the car hasnt even been driven. Tires have less than 1 mile on them. I am raising the car because i dont care about perfect fitment when i have some power to play with. Im raising the car to fit the aero and not risk damaging it with a pothole or something. Rolling the lip of the fender makes it flat so if you hit a bump and the tire goes up to the fender it will not cut into the tire. I dont want it stock height and i dont want stock wheels. The tires are 205s and its 17x8.5 so its wider than stock.

[futures14drift]

Also i already raised the front coils all the way up so thats why i only said im raising the rear. Both front fenders had dents in them when i got the car.

[mechanicalmoron]

Ehh, looked like you got the outside of the rear fenders. Hope not.

And no, if the tires are 205's, it doesn't matter how big the wheel is, you've got the same grip as I do on my stock SE wheels. In fact, you can fit a 215, and maybe bigger, on a stock wheel.

*edit* beyond that, I give up - you don't care about cars, you want an alleged japanese kit and shiny wheels to impress your peers - and come on here frontin' like your car keeps you away from them and above social pressure or something. Too bad, this had the potential to be cool.

I'll watch for your part-out.

[Thedriftbadger]

Blown beyond rebuild. Tons of shaft play but its whatever

No biggie isis turbos are cheap. Or grab a t28 from someone on here for even cheaper

[fullthrottle]

Ehh, looked like you got the outside of the rear fenders. Hope not.

And no, if the tires are 205's, it doesn't matter how big the wheel is, you've got the same grip as I do on my stock SE wheels. In fact, you can fit a 215, and maybe bigger, on a stock wheel.

*edit* beyond that, I give up - you don't care about cars, you want an alleged japanese kit and shiny wheels to impress your peers - and come on here frontin' like your car keeps you away from them and above social pressure or something. Too bad, this had the potential to be cool.

I'll watch for your part-out.

Coming from someone who joined 2 months ago you should probably sit back and just read without posting. Atleast for your first year or so. drifting is a lot about style just as much as it is about suspension and power.

[futures14drift]

Coming from someone who joined 2 months ago you should probably sit back and just read without posting. Atleast for your first year or so. drifting is a lot about style just as much as it is about suspension and power.

+1...mechanicalmoron is obviously a keyboard warrior and this is probably the only spike of motivation he can get...no worries man keep rashing ill be sure to let you know how all my other builds go too

[thefro526]

This is the best comment on this thread, thank you i will definatley be reconsidering many many things and keeping this in my head. Update this weekend hopefully the motor will go in.

No problem. We have all been in your shoes once, and contrary to popular belief, some of us do like to help random people - which is why many people come across as being critical of your actions.

It's not that we're hating on you in any way - it's that we're trying to stop you from the mistakes that we've made or seen made - and then had to deal with the regret, or hearing about the regret. I'm fairly confident that everyone that I know that has bought racelands has regretted the purchase, or has acknowledged that they would have been better off saving the money for better coils, knock off wheels are kind of hit or miss, but the engine thing falls into the same category as the racelands. I couldn't count the number of 240's that I've seen making 250-300 whp with stock suspension, other than crappy springs/struts or coil overs. They all handle like complete crap, and are unreasonably hard to drive fast - most of the owners will be the first to admit that you should make the car drive and handle well, and then make it powerful.

In any case, good luck with the car, make it do cool stuff or your time has been wasted.


Nobody should expect someone your age to do EVERYTHING right. Its just part of it. I had a pretty gay ricey looking hyundai accent when i was 16 and whenever i blew the motor and started researching i learned how to do things a better way.

For what it's worth - I don't agree with this.

Anyone that is smart enough to find a 240sx related forum, specifically Zilvia, Nico, or wherever, has no excuse to make bad car related decisions. Collectively, there are THOUSANDS of lifetimes of available information, for those willing to acknowledge that it's there.

I'm not saying that people shouldn't make mistakes, I'm saying that when they mess up they should acknowledge they mess up. For example, I bought some ARP extended studs last week, with the expectation that they would fit my car - and when they came in, they were 12mm X 1.5 thread rather than being 12mm X 1.25 thread - as is stock. Funny thing is that I knew ARP studs were a different thread, but for whatever reason I derped and ordered them anyway. Stupid mistake, I can only blame myself for the money wasted, since I had been told more than once that the thread was different.

[Reece]

Ehh, looked like you got the outside of the rear fenders. Hope not.

And no, if the tires are 205's, it doesn't matter how big the wheel is, you've got the same grip as I do on my stock SE wheels. In fact, you can fit a 215, and maybe bigger, on a stock wheel.

*edit* beyond that, I give up - you don't care about cars, you want an alleged japanese kit and shiny wheels to impress your peers - and come on here frontin' like your car keeps you away from them and above social pressure or something. Too bad, this had the potential to be cool.

I'll watch for your part-out.

You're a fucking ass, you haven't been on this forum for hardly any time at all, as far as I know you don't even own a car, so stop acting like you're way better than this kid. Jesus, people like you just need to shut up.

[mechanicalmoron]

You're a fucking ass, you haven't been on this forum for hardly any time at all, as far as I know you don't even own a car, so stop acting like you're way better than this kid. Jesus, people like you just need to shut up.

You got me, I ride the bus, I just hang out on car forums because, as someone who rides the bus, proper suspension geometry and people not making poorly thought out perminant changes to cars I like is so important to me...


Coming from someone who joined 2 months ago you should probably sit back and just read without posting. Atleast for your first year or so. drifting is a lot about style just as much as it is about suspension and power.


th' fuck you talkin' about? What does drifting being about style and not power, have to do with my post? I am arguing for thought-out, quality modifications that make a car better, be they to the suspension, engine, aero, whatever. Maybe you have "style" with stock sized tires on your big wheels and a suspension that is so stylish that it does not function properly, and feel personally attacked by my statements? He could have big wheels, a stupid-low car, and aero out the ass, and still do all of those things the right way, I'm just telling him to stop wasting money doing them the wrong way, and harm to his car at the same time.

[Fracture]

Kid, do what you want with the car. You can't please everybody. You're lucky you have the means to get a car at 15 years old. I didn't have that luxury. You want to do what everybody else does at 15 when they get a 240? Go for it. Do what makes you happy and ignore the clowns. It's your car, not theirs.

[Reece]

Kid, do what you want with the car. You can't please everybody. You're lucky you have the means to get a car at 15 years old. I didn't have that luxury. You want to do what everybody else does at 15 when they get a 240? Go for it. Do what makes you happy and ignore the clowns. It's your car, not theirs.

+1. Don't listen to any of the hate, especially that mechanicalmoron idiot. He's the reason why lots of other kids your age stray away from the car community.

[futures14drift]

Update..

I decided to buy a garret gt28rs turbo. its $1250 and i am 100% paying for it with my own money. The $530 saved for the isis and then i am taking out about $700 from my savings account and i get paid this wednesday.

[FaLKoN240]

I just want to see the car when it's ready to roll.

As for what he's purchased so far, I ain't mad. It's not my car.

[Thedriftbadger]

Update..

I decided to buy a garret gt28rs turbo. its $1250 and i am 100% paying for it with my own money. The $530 saved for the isis and then i am taking out about $700 from my savings account and i get paid this wednesday.

Honestly dude just get a t28. It will be a few hundred bucks, and you'll save a ton of cash. You don't need a lot of power to drift. A stock sr does very well. An sr with a t28 at around 12-14psi will be killer and more than enough to roast the tires every turn. My buddy has a t25 on a stock ka at 5psi and it breaks 245's loose without a problem. The t28 sr will be wayy more than you need. The gt28 is just overkill and overspending for no reason.

[futures14drift]

Honestly dude just get a t28. It will be a few hundred bucks, and you'll save a ton of cash. You don't need a lot of power to drift. A stock sr does very well. An sr with a t28 at around 12-14psi will be killer and more than enough to roast the tires every turn. My buddy has a t25 on a stock ka at 5psi and it breaks 245's loose without a problem. The t28 sr will be wayy more than you need. The gt28 is just overkill and overspending for no reason.

ok thank you

[ayuaddict]

Damn, my S13 sucked when i was 15.

[xblue__smokex]

im 15
i dont have a car
im jealous of all your money
if i just saved since i was 8 years old i could have had 3500+ for a buold
lucky

[zenkiset]

i commend you on this build. keep up the good work ethic! like stated before, people that are twice and triple your age don't even have and probably never will find one like you have. you seem like a smart kid so I know that when you run into your first problem with the parts people are bashing you will learn your lesson. I just cant say anything myself about them because I admire your hard work and desire to not end up like todays society of kids your age. goodluck in your s-chassis adventure man!

p.s.- I saw your other youtube videos of you playing forza horizon. you still got xbox live?

[futures14drift]

i commend you on this build. keep up the good work ethic! like stated before, people that are twice and triple your age don't even have and probably never will find one like you have. you seem like a smart kid so I know that when you run into your first problem with the parts people are bashing you will learn your lesson. I just cant say anything myself about them because I admire your hard work and desire to not end up like todays society of kids your age. goodluck in your s-chassis adventure man!

p.s.- I saw your other youtube videos of you playing forza horizon. you still got xbox live?

ya i do "Fly Supra" and thanks for h\the kind words

[xoxide]

Im waiting/hoping this thread turns into a build thread like Rolando Alfaro's on here... Everyone hating on the kid, and then him pulling off some amazing shit.

[futures14drift]

Im waiting/hoping this thread turns into a build thread like Rolando Alfaro's on here... Everyone hating on the kid, and then him pulling off some amazing shit.

Haha funny you say that, i just recently read his build and was shocked to see how our's were alike, and i talked to him. hes a good guy

[forzanoob]

Im waiting/hoping this thread turns into a build thread like Rolando Alfaro's on here... Everyone hating on the kid, and then him pulling off some amazing shit.

If thisturns into anythng close to his i will follow every second ofthic build.

[bataangpinoy]

you'll get it to where you need to be.

my advice would be to think long term. doing things twice sucks.

and i'd look into d-max street coilovers. gtr-garage sells them, 790 plus shipping.

[Magoo1222]

My criticism take it with a grain of salt. Dont turn out like most swag yolo kids and toss some unpainted aero and useless "racecar" mods on it and drive it into the ground, respect the car and it will return the favor. The wheels are ehh (could use less spokes IMO, but to each their own), don't go retarded frame scrape low thinking youre bad shit, youll regret it when your oil pan connects with pothole hidden by water, especially being an inexperienced driver. I agree with others who say it seams like youre just throwing parts at this with no real game plan (but then again I did the same with my first vehicle, its a phase). If I were you, I would do my homework on all your options before buying a certain upgrade (ask us if you need input, were more than happy to help). All in all, I wish I had picked up a 240 when I was your age and had the opportunity you do. Will be sure to follow your progress!

BTW if you dont mind my asking... where do you work 8 hour weeks and make enough bank to build a car, thats a job I need! ha.

[futures14drift]

My criticism take it with a grain of salt. Dont turn out like most swag yolo kids and toss some unpainted aero and useless "racecar" mods on it and drive it into the ground, respect the car and it will return the favor. The wheels are ehh (could use less spokes IMO, but to each their own), don't go retarded frame scrape low thinking youre bad shit, youll regret it when your oil pan connects with pothole hidden by water, especially being an inexperienced driver. I agree with others who say it seams like youre just throwing parts at this with no real game plan (but then again I did the same with my first vehicle, its a phase). If I were you, I would do my homework on all your options before buying a certain upgrade (ask us if you need input, were more than happy to help). All in all, I wish I had picked up a 240 when I was your age and had the opportunity you do. Will be sure to follow your progress!

BTW if you dont mind my asking... where do you work 8 hour weeks and make enough bank to build a car, thats a job I need! ha.

I already said im raising the car up..function>form and im painting the whole car white myself with real paint not dip including the aero! also, i work 8 hours a week and sometime get a weekend shift 9-5 but its not that i make bank..its saving up lol

[JoeyTheKid]

I already said im raising the car up..function>form and im painting the whole car white myself with real paint not dip including the aero! also, i work 8 hours a week and sometime get a weekend shift 9-5 but its not that i make bank..its saving up lol

Yeah I mean, a lot of people may be thinking wtf how does he get away with working 8 hours a week and make that much money but what they don't take into account is that because of your age, I'm assuming you still live at home. Which means that you don't have to pay for rent, utilities, cable, internet, cell phone, etc. So all that money goes straight towards candy and savings.

[futures14drift]

Yeah I mean, a lot of people may be thinking wtf how does he get away with working 8 hours a week and make that much money but what they don't take into account is that because of your age, I'm assuming you still live at home. Which means that you don't have to pay for rent, utilities, cable, internet, cell phone, etc. So all that money goes straight towards candy and savings.

haha yes this is true

[futures14drift]

Update..

My turbo is not going to be here for a while, so i am focusing on the body for now. I have been practicing welding at school and i will be fixing the rust in my floors myself. I am going to also paint the car myself and i know that prep work is the most important part. I need to fix a lot of dents and also the failed plastic filler quarterpanel job. going to be a lot of work to do

[mr.nismo.]

Yes it will be I did my rear fenders that had previous bondo work and it takes foreverrrr without power tools. Take your time thought and she'll look real nice

[Magoo1222]

I need to fix a lot of dents and also the failed plastic filler quarterpanel job.

Not sure how familiar you are with body work, but protip of the day, buy good quality light weight bodyfiller, not that garbage bondo brand from walmart. My favorite to use is Napa's "Crossfire" brand. Lays smooth and sands 100x easier than the cheaper stuff.

[Lt Shinysides]

Just get over fenders

[futures14drift]

Not sure how familiar you are with body work, but protip of the day, buy good quality light weight bodyfiller, not that garbage bondo brand from walmart. My favorite to use is Napa's "Crossfire" brand. Lays smooth and sands 100x easier than the cheaper stuff.

I actually take auto collision repair at my high school. My first choice was auto repair but it was full so i had to settle with collision repair but its teaching me a lot about body work which is good. I will definately look into your recommended brand, thank you

[wattupbaii]

I actually take auto collision repair at my high school. My first choice was auto repair but it was full so i had to settle with collision repair but its teaching me a lot about body work which is good. I will definately look into your recommended brand, thank you

0.o your school is the shit

[Magoo1222]

I actually take auto collision repair at my high school. My first choice was auto repair but it was full so i had to settle with collision repair but its teaching me a lot about body work which is good. I will definately look into your recommended brand, thank you

Man do I wish I had an auto shop when I went to highschool. I had to take a 45 minute bus ride every day to a vocational school for Auto Tech. And my teacher was a prick who didnt teach us anything besides what was in the text book (learned basically all I know from my old man). Hope your class is better!

[Hatemy7]

I actually take auto collision repair at my high school. My first choice was auto repair but it was full so i had to settle with collision repair but its teaching me a lot about body work which is good. I will definately look into your recommended brand, thank you


You little fucking bastard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!
















































dont mind me, I am just dying of jealousy!

[futures14drift]

Sorry for the wait guys..Update!

Since i have so much time to wait for my turbo, i decided to start fixing the body and rust on my car. It has a ton of rust, but im happy it does. Its good for me to learn how to fix it.

Anyways, got my new MIG welder this week and i went to work with it, but my welds are nothing special yet for 2 reasons. 1, i am a beginner, and 2 i am still playing with the heat and wire speed settings and figuring the perfect setting.
The start of fixing that horrible plastic filler repair job that was done before i had the car.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7455/10011606556_be0b5718bb_b.jpg

I truly regret painting with that stupid ass truck bed liner. just another mistake i learn from.

Yes, my welds suck i know. brand new welder and im still playing with the adjustments, but it got the job done and it doesnt need to be a perfect bead but my welds will be getting much better soon.
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2844/10011663283_f144c37140_b.jpg

Turbo is still on backorder but for now i will be continuing to fix my rust, weld my diff, install my aero (no idea how) and prep for my paint job..not plastidip.

[ayrtonlucyk]

you only become a better welder with pratice, keep it up and they will look better in no time

[Magoo1222]

Dont figure theres a chance youd be looking to get rid of your mud guards would you :boink:

[futures14drift]

Dont figure theres a chance youd be looking to get rid of your mud guards would you :boink:
the fender liner or the flaps? pretty sure i threw the flaps out but i have 1 more on i think

[zenkiset]

hey man, ive seen worse welds lol. on the first day of actual welding we got to do at vocational school you should've seen some of the welds people were putting down..

[Magoo1222]

the fender liner or the flaps? pretty sure i threw the flaps out but i have 1 more on i think

The flaps. I grabbed a set from a vert a while back not realizing at the time that the passenger side doesn't fit a hatch. If you tossed em, no biggie

[mechanicalmoron]

Sorry for the wait guys..Update!

Since i have so much time to wait for my turbo, i decided to start fixing the body and rust on my car. It has a ton of rust, but im happy it does. Its good for me to learn how to fix it.

Anyways, got my new MIG welder this week and i went to work with it, but my welds are nothing special yet for 2 reasons. 1, i am a beginner, and 2 i am still playing with the heat and wire speed settings and figuring the perfect setting.
The start of fixing that horrible plastic filler repair job that was done before i had the car.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7455/10011606556_be0b5718bb_b.jpg

I truly regret painting with that stupid ass truck bed liner. just another mistake i learn from.

Yes, my welds suck i know. brand new welder and im still playing with the adjustments, but it got the job done and it doesnt need to be a perfect bead but my welds will be getting much better soon.
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2844/10011663283_f144c37140_b.jpg

Turbo is still on backorder but for now i will be continuing to fix my rust, weld my diff, install my aero (no idea how) and prep for my paint job..not plastidip.

Impressive. (not the weld, but that you're welding).

If you don't have a clean looking bead, it's a good idea to grind it down flush for a closer look-see, so you know if there's any spots you need to hit again. And don't forget to seal/paint the backside, it will have burnt all the paint off (and sand off the burnt crap so it will stick), and it would be a shame to have your fresh repair rust out exactly the same way.

Does this mean that the (implied) plan is no longer drive it into the ground and buy an s14?

:hide:

*edit* a lot of welding is just feel/instinct, practice is all that will help. If you have a chance to get scrap steel, do it, and cut/weld it up every way you can, repeatedly. It will help, and is fun, too.

[futures14drift]

Impressive. (not the weld, but that you're welding).

If you don't have a clean looking bead, it's a good idea to grind it down flush for a closer look-see, so you know if there's any spots you need to hit again. And don't forget to seal/paint the backside, it will have burnt all the paint off (and sand off the burnt crap so it will stick), and it would be a shame to have your fresh repair rust out exactly the same way.

Does this mean that the (implied) plan is no longer drive it into the ground and buy an s14?

:hide:

*edit* a lot of welding is just feel/instinct, practice is all that will help. If you have a chance to get scrap steel, do it, and cut/weld it up every way you can, repeatedly. It will help, and is fun, too.

Yea i am going to seal the underside and all that when i get it on the lift. The welds suck also because im still adjusting the settings of the new welder. I dont get your s14 joke but that never was the plan. And yeah i have a big sheet im going to be practicing every day.

[futures14drift]

Update.. Took off the blown turbo, dropped the SR in. did this because my new turbo is on backorder till november, and thats just crazy so i am going to wire the car, start body work, do everything i can and then put the turbo on and start it.
Forklifts make life easier..protected my valve cover from any scratches.
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3768/10055076656_ebc60bb2b5_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7418/10055084426_02ef26cf94_b.jpg

Wirng mess....
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3743/10055150993_820a24694b_b.jpg

[xoxide]

You are going to absolutly hate putting the turbo back in with the motor in the bay... It sucks.

[theStig880]

^^^^ True that. It sucks. The motor looks good in there though. Kinda funny that your in Auto Body, I was in Auto Repair at my school but I wanted to be in Auto body. Keep up the work

[futures14drift]

^^^^ True that. It sucks. The motor looks good in there though. Kinda funny that your in Auto Body, I was in Auto Repair at my school but I wanted to be in Auto body. Keep up the work

i know its going to be tough, but would you guys really want your motor to sit on a pallett till november? I just cant do that. I guess im too motivated to let it sit that long. Yeah auto body is good too both shops are good. Nothing better than shop all week every other week.

[Frank_Jaeger]

Turbo is still on backorder but for now i will be continuing to fix my rust, weld my diff, install my aero (no idea how) and prep for my paint job..not plastidip.
Hey man, I'm letting you know I'm in the same boat. Just bought a MIG welder; tempted to weld my diff. Don't do it. Not until you have more experience welding. If your welds come apart inside the diff, they can lock it up in a bad way. Having your wheels unexpectedly lock up on you on the highway can be dangerous.

[mechanicalmoron]

Hey man, I'm letting you know I'm in the same boat. Just bought a MIG welder; tempted to weld my diff. Don't do it. Not until you have more experience welding. If your welds come apart inside the diff, they can lock it up in a bad way. Having your wheels unexpectedly lock up on you on the highway can be dangerous.

I'm pretty sure it could also be very dangerous to just about every moving part of the drivetrain. Would be a shame to ruin an engine or transmission over a cheap differential.

[Reece]

I'd say you should have a bit more welding experience before you weld your diff yourself. Have a friend do it or something. That's what I did.

[futures14drift]

I was not planning on welding my diff just yet, i actually already thought about someone else doing it.

[futures14drift]

Update.. going to work on the car today, hopefully i get the driveshaft in, sort some more wires out and get the intercooler piping all mounted up.

[kawitwofiddy]

damn dude I wish I could've come across this when you were looking to get a new turbo. my buddy got a new s15 turbo for like 400 bucks and it was decently larger than the t25 and was still a t2 flange and his car absolutely yacks now... Good luck bro im started building my first 240 a year ago when I was 17, and wish I could've gotten one to build before I had gas and insurance expenses. Your in a good spot to make something sick as fuck happen dude.

[futures14drift]

Last night i really looked over my car. The car has so much rust that its unbelievable. My E brake wasn't working and i realized the cable is rusted apart and its snapped. I will soon need a new gas tank, all new brake lines and fuel lines, and i need to cut and weld a ton of spots on my frame. This would usually be a downer for most people, but i am happy because everything is a learning process. My plan is to never sell this car, it will probably see a million different phases, but it will be 100% one day. I also got the driveshaft in. Did it myself but it was easy cause its so light.

QUESTION: What fluids do you guys recommend for the diff, tranny, and engine?

Pics:
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[Dany]

Royal purple for pos diff. engine oil its not a big deal just get synthetic and tranny lucas oil

[mr.nismo.]

Mobil one or redline oil for engine, purolator oil filter, redline mt90 for trans. And whatever for your diff since it's not that great anyway lol

[mechanicalmoron]

Diff, if you're using a stock/welded one, doesn't need any special oil. I guess thicker, to make any wear smoother... wouldn't worry. Any GL-5 gear oil.

Tranny should be AMSOIL, or redline, get the one that's only rated GL-4, not GL-4/GL-5 combo.

Engine, any quality oil, purolator/napa filter, and old-fashioned change intervals if you're driving hard.

[mr.nismo.]

Diff, if you're using a stock/welded one, doesn't need any special oil. I guess thicker, to make any wear smoother... wouldn't worry. Any GL-5 gear oil.

Tranny should be AMSOIL, or redline, get the one that's only rated GL-5, not GL-4/GL-5 combo.

Engine, any quality oil, purolator/napa filter, and old-fashioned change intervals if you're driving hard.

You mean GL-4 only? Don't want him eating his synchros apart

[Konster]

What are you going to do with the mudflaps?

[mechanicalmoron]

You mean GL-4 only? Don't want him eating his synchros apart

Quite right, fixed. Dangerous mistake.

[futures14drift]

Small update.. Just ordered some plastic filler, my and my spray gun. Slowly gathering parts for painting the car as i am doing it myself. Also practiced my welding today in school, let me know what you think of it. Criticism is always welcome.
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Just using the material as much as i could practice always helps.
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Here is my locker at school, I thought i would share it because it involves paint work. I had to sand down the old paint job and sandblast it all to bare metal, then fill dents with plastic filler, sand sand sand sand for ever, prime, sand, prime, base, sand, clear, sand ..so much sanding in the paint industry, its crazy.
Its the blue one, i mixed the color its winning blue from mazda.
I think its pretty nice
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[240sxSliderr]

You are one lucky kid man! I wish I could work on my car like you can. Make me jealous that you got it for 1600$ Im from NY and as a busboy making 4$ an hour and working 6-7 hours a week for like 1-2 days only :(. Its preety cool what your doing and you must have alot of $$$. I just threw out 350$ on a new exhaust for my slammed s10 I got. I also 2 have a miata. Everyone on here is like you wont get a 240 blah blah and other cars. but hey look what happend I got a 91 Miata that im turning into a drift missile myself and im in the working of painting it also. My car is like a 45 Min drive from me and I got no cash to spend on it. Like you 2 I was gonna go for racelands aswell but, im like I need a roll bar and a new top more than I need coils right now. Man good Luck with the build as Im dying to get a 240 but as time keeps going on no one wants to trade 240's. most of them have work done and mines just basically stock. Like I said man good luck with the build because its looking great!

[futures14drift]

Update!
Today i got to work with sanding down my car and prepping it for paint. I will be painting it myself, and i know how important prep work is. Took off my front fenders because im getting brand new ones. Also got my spray gun and plastic filler.
Pics!
80 grit goes a long way.
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Will update with more sanding and body filler tomorrow.

[mechanicalmoron]

.....you're not even taking the window/trim or the door window lip/handle off to paint?

why not it right.... take every thing that you can off or out of the thing, THEN repair and mask, and paint....

If you're doing that carpet stuff still, it would make a lot of sense to do the interior and exterior all at once, so you get a clean color change to everythin0g.

[futures14drift]

.....you're not even taking the window/trim or the door window lip/handle off to paint?

why not it right.... take every thing that you can off or out of the thing, THEN repair and mask, and paint....

If you're doing that carpet stuff still, it would make a lot of sense to do the interior and exterior all at once, so you get a clean color change to everythin0g.
Did i say i was painting it just then right there? all i did was sand.. the car will be fully broken down when the time comes.

[mechanicalmoron]

Did i say i was painting it just then right there? all i did was sand.. the car will be fully broken down when the time comes.

Well, you started masking it off.

[Lt Shinysides]

Well, you started masking it off.

Ever think that was to block off the trim while sanding the paint? Smart move on his part.

[xoxide]

Well, you started masking it off.
You're a fucking idiot.


I did the same thing on my car to paint it, tape the seals off while sanding/priming so I could still drive the car/keep dust out of it, then pull windows, etc etc out when it was ready for paint. And id love for you to find a single imperfection in my paintjob.

[Big Zee]

for 1250 dollars for a 2860, why not just order a Tomei 7960 kit from Enjuku ?

I don't agree with your power before braking and suspension plans, but a lot of local people have the same mindset, " you don't need brakes to drift" I'm constantly told.

they sure come in handy on the road though.

if you do a brake upgrade, I strongly suggest a full 300zx brake swap, fronts and rears with ebrakes. I did it to my car and it's crazy the amount of stopping power the car has :)

[Reece]

Well, you started masking it off.

Can someone ban this fuckface or something?

[mechanicalmoron]

You're a fucking idiot.


I did the same thing on my car to paint it, tape the seals off while sanding/priming so I could still drive the car/keep dust out of it, then pull windows, etc etc out when it was ready for paint. And id love for you to find a single imperfection in my paintjob.

I'm sure your paintjob is fine.

Still, when someone says they're starting paint, on a car that they DO NOT DRIVE, mightn't you expect masking to be for paint?

[xoxide]

It completly depends on the conditions and style of the painted. Some want everything pulled, some dont. He might not want bondo dust to fill his interior.

[futures14drift]

It completly depends on the conditions and style of the painted. Some want everything pulled, some dont. He might not want bondo dust to fill his interior.
Thank you. that guy is a fucking jackass and has no idea what hes talking about. The masking tape is there to protect all the trim from being sanded by accident.

[futures14drift]

for 1250 dollars for a 2860, why not just order a Tomei 7960 kit from Enjuku ?

I don't agree with your power before braking and suspension plans, but a lot of local people have the same mindset, " you don't need brakes to drift" I'm constantly told.

they sure come in handy on the road though.

if you do a brake upgrade, I strongly suggest a full 300zx brake swap, fronts and rears with ebrakes. I did it to my car and it's crazy the amount of stopping power the car has :)

I just wanted my car to run healthy as soon as possible. Soon i will be doing a huge brake upgrade, as im going to be saving a lot for the car over the winter.

[mr.nismo.]

I love my z32's :-) I only lit them on fire once lol. And that was when I was chasing an RB s14 with my old single cam in the Malibu canyons

[Big Zee]

^ I've yet to light mine up haha, but I think I fucked my pads, or didn't break them in proper. will be switching to some EBC pads or Project Mu's

Hawks are to dusty and fade sets in really quick. I like mine with hard bite everytime and enough to install face to dash for people not using seatbelts with little pedal pressure haha

[Magoo1222]

well this went from interesting update to butthurt flaming in zero seconds flat. :cj:

[zenkiset]

smart move with the masking during sanding. I don't work with body stuff at all and I knew exactly what you were doing without even reading anything yet. (yes I just ratted on myself that I like to look at the pictures before I read :D) I would've done the same thing. good work!

[futures14drift]

any tips on how i should relocate my battery? any kits or specific things i should buy? thanks.

-- Got the radiator installed tonight, wiring should be done this weekend.

[xoxide]

Kits are expensive. Just buy your wire off line. I used 2 gauge but if youre running a lot of accessorries, 0 gauge would probably be best.

[Dany]

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5523/10238162384_48bcf6a085_b.jpg
Will update with more sanding and body filler tomorrow.

Hey bro about that lightweight filler once u open it u have to use it pretty fast because the edges will dry up and u start getting chunks in ur filler in time so try to use it within a month or less! its a good filler but it doesnt last long cuz it drys up. and that gun u bought wat will u be using for?? because it probably has a 1.0 mm needle or less and if anything its only good for small not thick primer jobs. primers tend to be thick u gotta at least use a 1.5mm tip or if u can thin down ur prime go for it but its always good to keep it thick cuz bondo sucks up the paint

[futures14drift]

Hey bro about that lightweight filler once u open it u have to use it pretty fast because the edges will dry up and u start getting chunks in ur filler in time so try to use it within a month or less! its a good filler but it doesnt last long cuz it drys up. and that gun u bought wat will u be using for?? because it probably has a 1.0 mm needle or less and if anything its only good for small not thick primer jobs. primers tend to be thick u gotta at least use a 1.5mm tip or if u can thin down ur prime go for it but its always good to keep it thick cuz bondo sucks up the paint

Thanks for helping me out. It is 1.0 and i actually returned it and i got a 1.4 and i think a 1.8 too. That gun was my mistake. Yeah the body filler dries up i beat the top in with a hammer to ensure its tight but yea im gonna do all the body work i can. Thanks for ur help i love when people share there knowledge in a benefitial way!

[Dany]

Thanks for helping me out. It is 1.0 and i actually returned it and i got a 1.4 and i think a 1.8 too. That gun was my mistake. Yeah the body filler dries up i beat the top in with a hammer to ensure its tight but yea im gonna do all the body work i can. Thanks for ur help i love when people share there knowledge in a benefitial way!

hahaha i know right thats just how zilvia is bro idk why? but theirs nice kool ppl out here lol but umm either way if u close it tightly you have already opened its original seal so its gonna dry up either way all im saying is use it up as much as u can go all out on it or it will go to waste eastwood just made that one so it has its flaws. and okay kool i would use 1.8 for prime :bigok: if u have any questions with body work let me know primers paints tips guns sanding etc. i know i had tons of questions wen i was ur age haha :l101: God bless you!

[poundit]

sorry if it has already been answered, to much cluter . but what color are you going with

[futures14drift]

sorry if it has already been answered, to much cluter . but what color are you going with

I am 95% it will be white.

[Magoo1222]

on the subject of supplies, do you have a good selection of sanding blocks? If not, I would look into getting a set. Crucial for a nice, straight body :bow:

[futures14drift]

Update..Put a ton of work in this weekend.
Turbo will be here 10/23 and ill install it thursday. Wiring is almost done just figuring out how to delete the alarm that was on the harness. Relocate battery then start the car!
Did a ton of body work too, car is 100% ready for paint and so is the aero kit.
Enough of me talking, Pics!
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DIY Paint Booth..Scattered around a few things in the shop, came up with plastic sheeting and 2 of those tents people use for tailgating and shit.
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Should be done this week with paint.

[Thedriftbadger]

Did you just say you were going to get rid of the alarm? Do you know how many 240s have been stolen in the past month? Check the forums, the honda thieves are targeting us now. Get an alarm on there before you even drive it.

[Magoo1222]

How is this booth setup for light transmission? looks like it would be a bit hard to see in there

[futures14drift]

How is this booth setup for light transmission? looks like it would be a bit hard to see in there

Cars gonna be painted during the day..but even if at night that pic was taken pitch dark. I can see fine?

[Dany]

Cars gonna be painted during the day..but even if at night that pic was taken pitch dark. I can see fine?

i prefer day for temperature reasons.. wheres ur body work? and rime?

[futures14drift]

i prefer day for temperature reasons.. wheres ur body work? and rime?

rime? what do u mean

[Dany]

prime lol ^^^

[zenkiset]

looking good man! that turbo come in today?!

[Thedriftbadger]

Post a start up video or get banned. Sorry i don't make the rules.

[futures14drift]

Update!!!

Got the turbo in today, I had to take off the manifold because it made it 10 times easier. Thats done and also my dads friend came and fixed all the rust on my frame today.
I just need to connect the lines to the turbo finish wiring and relocate the battery.
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Also primed my car, then sanded the primer with 400 grit and now its ready for paint.
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After the pics i also sprayed it all with a black undercoating type of spray.

[xoxide]

Protip: Westand with 600 grit the primer before paint.

[futures14drift]

broke a bolt on turbo manifold no big deal fixed it but i need a whole new wiring harness because mine is so hacked up and i need catch can and coolant overflow will order it all tomorrow

[IconicZenki]

This build is rad. Especially coming from a kid. But before you decide to burn rubber. Get your suspension right and take some driving lessons. It would be a shame to see you come this far and wrap this bitch around a pole.

[JoeyTheKid]

broke a bolt on turbo manifold no big deal fixed it but i need a whole new wiring harness because mine is so hacked up and i need catch can and coolant overflow will order it all tomorrow

Honestly, this is not a bad idea, even if it wasn't that hacked up. I'm going the same route with my build, wiring specialties has SR harnesses for >400 dollars so I mean why not? The only thing I hate about working on cars is electrical issues and diagnostics, so I figure it'd be best to get ride of a 20+year old harness and prevent a lot of them from the get go.

[futures14drift]

Was going to order the harness but i don't know what brand injectors i have.. all i know is they are 550cc but i ordered my oil catch can and coolant overflow tank.

[Dany]

will u be using single stage paint? if your using base clear coat its better to go 600 if ur doing single stage clear coat u can leave it as is

[futures14drift]

Has anyone ever used this Titanium Fasteners, Titanium Bolts, Titanium Nuts, Dress Up Bolts (http://www.ballerbolts.com/) ?????

I ordered driveshaft bolts on 10/21 and no shipping confirmation and they will not answer my emails...

[mr.nismo.]

Look at injectors/plugs. It should tell you

[futures14drift]

I might be taking my car to my school to paint it over the winter since its too cold now.

[Duf]

Dude youve already done so much good luck with the rest of your build.

[futures14drift]

Dude youve already done so much good luck with the rest of your build.

Thanks man.this car will be my daily driver so once i sell my miata im going to be ordering a ton of parts.

[futures14drift]

No offense, but having to ask people whether a RB20, SR20, or 2JZGE is better kind of debunks your statement. It comes off to me that you didn't do much research about the chassis or swaps before you got it. The motorset you got is great but for the money, I wouldn't say the best. Personally, a suspension and brakes would have been my first route of attack but hey, we all start somewhere.

I applaud you on getting a motorset that looks complete and quality - and expensive because I recall seeing Lt Shinysides thread - but 3K could have gotten you brand new PBMs, all the control arms, brakes, and still money to spare to keep that KA ticking until you did a little more research to choose a motor that truly fits your goals.

That's just my two cents and neither my opinion or anyone elses on here should veer your thinking. We're just giving you a heads up on the routes we have taken and what we would have changed/the routes we took and feel like we wouldn't change a thing. Suspension, brakes, and fixing all the fucked up shit you inherited by buying the car are always the first things to taken - at least in my opinion.

I wish you luck and I hope you realize we're here to help and not break you down. If you get defensive thinking we are bashing, you're in for a treat. I'll continue you following your build. If you ever need help, let me know. I'm local [will be in a month or so when I move back to MA] and never mind wrenching.

Dont remember seeing this but let me know if your in MA/where you are id love to meet up or something when my car runs. lmk

[xoxide]

File a paypal claim now... baller bolts is a scam... Go look in the feedback section on here.

[futures14drift]

File a paypal claim now... baller bolts is a scam... Go look in the feedback section on here.

Yeah i fucked up... they didnt answer my email so went on google and typed in baller bolts review, zilvia came up and i was so mad for not looking at them before my order..gonna file the claim tomorrow. Sucks what a scumbag

[futures14drift]

Got some parts today
Coolant overflow tank
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New wiring harness
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Oil catch can
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Hopefully i can finish the wiring, get the turbo on the manifold and on the car and then get it started. I will update tonight

[zenkiset]

sweet! where did you buy your coolant overflow and oil catch from? those things are pristine!

[Lt Shinysides]

I hope it runs tonight!!!

[mr.nismo.]

Yay wireing specialties harness . I just got mine today too. I'm like halfway done. Did you get the pro harness combo?

[futures14drift]

Yay wireing specialties harness . I just got mine today too. I'm like halfway done. Did you get the pro harness combo?

Yeah i had to because of my aem ecu. definatley doesnt take 20 min LOL

[rwtf]

Curious, where did you order your BBS reps from?

[ronny.jpn]

Lol. Just read all of this. Good stuff. I almost dont believe you're 15, but who am I to judge. The car is looking good man. I would have voted ka-t but we are all different. Especially on Zilvia it's more of an SR based forum but I still love it. I like the wheels. I may have missed it, but did you plastidip? If not please don't. That is an amazing color and one of if not my favorite on hatches. Keep up the work man.

Here's mine before I put my wheels and coils on lol.

[futures14drift]

Lol. Just read all of this. Good stuff. I almost dont believe you're 15, but who am I to judge. The car is looking good man. I would have voted ka-t but we are all different. Especially on Zilvia it's more of an SR based forum but I still love it. I like the wheels. I may have missed it, but did you plastidip? If not please don't. That is an amazing color and one of if not my favorite on hatches. Keep up the work man.

Here's mine before I put my wheels and coils on lol.
Thanks man but yea i really am 15..didn't dip it as you can see sanded it down and primered it with real paint. thanks, and nice s13

[futures14drift]

Curious, where did you order your BBS reps from?

Ebay!! Woo! lol

[futures14drift]

Car is soooooooooooooo close.. Wiring harness is almost all buttoned up just a few more things to button up. Ill let you guys know

[futures14drift]

Finished relocating the battery and wiring is 95 percent done.. car should run this week

I ran my battery under my car and up to the trunk.
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3749/10659277345_cb60d71013_b.jpg

Also, I have a knife switch so i can turn battery on and off in seconds, and i will have a 150 amp circuit breaker so its 100% protected.
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[KravingAKouki]

I ran my battery under my car and up to the trunk.

Id suggest routing the battery power cable inside the car. This eliminates the chance of shorting it out incase it droops or gets snagged. you can run it from the engine bay, out the passenger side harness, in through the firewall where the harness goes in, passed the ecu, and along the passenger side of the car to the trunk. It is safe that way, and you will not have to worry about any potential problems.

[ronny.jpn]

Id suggest routing the battery power cable inside the car. This eliminates the chance of shorting it out incase it droops or gets snagged. you can run it from the engine bay, out the passenger side harness, in through the firewall where the harness goes in, passed the ecu, and along the passenger side of the car to the trunk. It is safe that way, and you will not have to worry about any potential problems.

What he said ^^^

[jr_ss]

Not to mention a 50amp breaker is way to small. You need atleast a 100amp for cranking loads.

[mr.nismo.]

Not to mention a 50amp breaker is way to small. You need atleast a 100amp for cranking loads.

^what he said. That thing will pop so quickly

[futures14drift]

I just said 50 amp..maybe i didn't hear my dad correctly but he knows what he is doing, and hes getting the circuit breaker at west marine and he knows what to get, but anyways running it under the car is actually a very good idea, and its safe from any issues..but if you guys disagree i will keep you updated if anything ever happens with the battery.

[Odyvia]

How is it safe from any issues under the car? Thats just exposing it to new issues that you wouldn't normally have to deal with...

[mechanicalmoron]

Coulda spent that time NOT putting new future rust sinkholes on your frame rail, and instead, fixing that rust hole visible there.

There is nothing safe or good about running the cables outside the cockpit, it's all the same ground, if they short they short, inside or outside the chassis - and it should be protected by your breaker anyways. They're just a lot more likely to get damaged in a multitude of ways down there.

It's plain easy to run cables through the firewall, there's wire holes that will easily accomidate it, then you run it along under the carpet by the passenger door kickplate, under the back seat, and into the trunk... no short-bus exposure to the elements or fresh rust targets on your frame rails required.

You came up with doing it that way, and then you're saying it's actually VERY safe.... yeah, but see, common sense says it's not, when there is a MUCH safer way that it's generally done. WHY would you put a bunch of holes and stuff on your chassis, and make any work MUCH more complicated, and think it's SAFER to have a tiny plastic conduit instead of the whole chassis to protect the wires?

But seriously, it's okay, because you're telling everyone that it's okay. Besides, you're 15, so any jackassery you might commit is cool.

[mr.nismo.]

Honestly let him do what he wants. If his car get bent up there and cuts that wire, his battery cable will be the least of his problems lol just runs. Bigger breaker for cranking and if he used rubber washers around the screws it shouldn't be that bad. I would fix that hole though but it looks like your going around doing that on other parts of the car.

[Thedriftbadger]

That switch you have doesn't mean anything. You need an external switch to pass tech for most tandem events.