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Anger management
05-09-2004, 07:13 PM
I just got my first 1990 240 sx. Can anyone help me with what to do with it first. and what not to do. I really want to fix this up. I just started on the body and Interior. Im looking for body kits i like the style 605. the Conversion like the s15 look like a lot of work. I want to do cosmetics then work on performance.

DuffMan
05-09-2004, 07:21 PM
NO...........

Ghettokracker71
05-09-2004, 07:36 PM
Peformance before comestics. You car is a 1990,how many miles does it have? I am sure there is plenty of worn componetry on that thing seeing as its HOW old? Therefore,definitely do suspension and engine upgrades before comestics.

ICKY
05-09-2004, 07:42 PM
NO...........

:werd: Very well put. Dont take this as a flame or disrespect but, it sounds like your trying to build a showcar, or what alot of fellow zilvia members call rice.

WilloW
05-09-2004, 07:42 PM
NO...........

Puahahah...welcome. Put on your flame suit.

soulDistortion
05-09-2004, 10:18 PM
when people name bodykits by style number, it almost surely means it's one of erebuni's shitty kits.


and lo and behold: http://erebuni.net/ge/niss240.htm

Ghettokracker71
05-09-2004, 10:21 PM
:ugh:OH GOD NO!!!!! NO NO NO! NOT THAT KIT...........:ugh:

thelinja
05-09-2004, 10:35 PM
Go for it, if you want your car to look like a catfish.

Oh yeah, don't paint it either! It's even better!

itslogics
05-09-2004, 11:40 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There is a guy that works by a mobil by my house and he has that kit!! Looks like a typical ricer with bleached blonde hair and talks ghetto.

Get that Kit man it's the cool thing to do.

pruto
05-10-2004, 12:00 AM
ok, here is waht i DON'T get, are there actually people out there who give people props for having an unpainted, shitty fitment kit that makes your car look like a catfish?

well, ain't no one here who'd give you madd props yo for really really bad rice.

and there is a difference between good rice and bad rice. Its still rice, but at least it taste good. Make your rice taste good if you like rice.

oojpeeoo
05-10-2004, 02:37 AM
haha man ur car will look like a transformer...

iluvdrifto
05-10-2004, 02:47 AM
do whatever you want with your car i heard going jdm is the best thing these days everyone is doing it !! HAHA make your car look pretty then keep it in the garage ... thank me later

drift freaq
05-10-2004, 11:18 AM
when is somebody going to bury that bodykit. Man does erbuni actually sell that kit to a lot of people? ya go for it if you want to take a perfectly decent looking stock chassis into a monstrosity.

drift freaq
05-10-2004, 11:19 AM
oh ya and nice screen name your gonna have to pratice anger management after starting a thread with that kit. hahahhahahaha

pruto
05-10-2004, 11:33 AM
do whatever you want with your car i heard going jdm is the best thing these days everyone is doing it !! HAHA make your car look pretty then keep it in the garage ... thank me later

i dunno man, i think the coolest part of bad ass JDM cars is that they race with them and show them off. While carpet queens here whatever the style usually just sit there and look pretty (with the exception of a couple).

dragndrifter23x
05-10-2004, 11:55 AM
haha man ur car will look like a transformer...
Ricers in diguise o_O

dragndrifter23x
05-10-2004, 11:57 AM
do whatever you want with your car i heard going jdm is the best thing these days everyone is doing it !! HAHA make your car look pretty then keep it in the garage ... thank me later

I thought it was all about rice? :duh:

CoasTek240
05-10-2004, 12:38 PM
DONT DO IT, I WAS ONE OF THE FIRST PEOPLE TO ROCK THAT KIT WAY BACK IN THE DAY. (4 years ago). horrible fitment, even if you do like your car looking like a nurse shark.
thats got to be the uggliest kit ever. i was a stupid young x-honda boy, i had an excuse how bout you?....

ICKY
05-10-2004, 01:02 PM
After seeing that kit, i had the urge to take a shyt. Seriously. Work on the engine/suspention... it most likely needs a tune-up. My 95 has 170-180k miles. And it has ALOT of work to be done to it. Im pretty sure your S13 needs the same. Look for rust spots and stuff like that. Rust is probably a cars WORST enemy.

Anger management
05-10-2004, 02:05 PM
WOW Ok it has 175k miles not any rust i wnat to do the motor. But where should i start like exaust intake what kind. I dont like my cars being like everyone eleses so that kit is out then. nobody fixed up a 240 around here a least i didnt see any yet. what kit should i but on it. i look but cant find many and i dont know the conversions yet so i guess the s13 is the 240sx. Help Please.

Anger management
05-10-2004, 02:06 PM
WOW Ok it has 175k miles not any rust i wnat to do the motor. But where should i start like exaust intake what kind. I dont like my cars being like everyone eleses so that kit is out then. nobody fixed up a 240 around here a least i didnt see any yet. what kit should i but on it. i look but cant find many and i dont know the conversions yet so i guess the s13 is the 240sx. Help Please.

M.Piedlourde
05-10-2004, 02:19 PM
175k miles? What shape is the car currently in? Anything broken? Make sure all of the stock bits are running properly before you start throwing on aftermarket pieces. And almost everyone on this board is going to start disliking you if your very first mod to the car is an appearance mod.

Ghettokracker71
05-10-2004, 02:20 PM
WOW Ok it has 175k miles not any rust i wnat to do the motor. But where should i start like exaust intake what kind. I dont like my cars being like everyone eleses so that kit is out then. nobody fixed up a 240 around here a least i didnt see any yet. what kit should i but on it. i look but cant find many and i dont know the conversions yet so i guess the s13 is the 240sx. Help Please.

1989-1994 240sx=S13.

1989-1990 240sx/S13=powered by the KA24E(KA=engine code for sandcast iron block...24=2.4 litres=2400CCs....E=Engine.)=SOHC engine



From 1991-up all USDM 240sx=powered by the KA24DE=DOHC engine.

smellslikecurry
05-10-2004, 03:06 PM
this all sounds like a nitekids prank

thelinja
05-10-2004, 03:56 PM
Ok, at least you're taking the abuse well. Don't get the car and immediatly start making it "faster" with an intake and exhaust. For the love of god make sure the car runs right after you buy it. Take about $200 and replace shit like belts, fluids, wiper blades, brake pads and rotors, shocks, clean filters (not just air), get some decent tires (if it needs it), all the ignition crap like rotor, cap, plugs, etc.

I don't know what it is but everyone always wants to mod cars they don't have yet. Trust me, changing all of that shit I said above on a car with 175k will give you more power than adding an exhaust and an intake.

Christ, if I got a nickel for everytime I posted this I wouldn't be driving a 240SX.

WilloW
05-10-2004, 05:03 PM
this all sounds like a nitekids prank

I'm thinking the same thing.

MakotoS13
05-10-2004, 06:34 PM
I just got my first 1990 240 sx. Can anyone help me with what to do with it first. and what not to do. I really want to fix this up. I just started on the body and Interior. Im looking for body kits i like the style 605. the Conversion like the s15 look like a lot of work. I want to do cosmetics then work on performance.

translation: hi, i bought this car to fit in, won't you guys accept me? i'd rather not spend blood, sweat, and money maximizing this machine's potential but would rather toss green at fiberglass bumpers i'll crack and wings that will fool approaching aircraft into thinking i'm a jet on a runway.

response: you'd fit in at www.fastcougar.com/forums, the honda forums, or any of the multitude of ricer fetish sites.

IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HELL TO DO WITH A PERFORMANCE ORIENTED VEHICLE IT IS BEST YOU SELL IT OR SUFFER THE FLAME OF IRRITATED REAL ENTHUSIESTS.

The Dude
05-10-2004, 08:32 PM
translation: hi, i bought this car to fit in, won't you guys accept me? i'd rather not spend blood, sweat, and money maximizing this machine's potential but would rather toss green at fiberglass bumpers i'll crack and wings that will fool approaching aircraft into thinking i'm a jet on a runway.

response: you'd fit in at www.fastcougar.com/forums, the honda forums, or any of the multitude of ricer fetish sites.

IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HELL TO DO WITH A PERFORMANCE ORIENTED VEHICLE IT IS BEST YOU SELL IT OR SUFFER THE FLAME OF IRRITATED REAL ENTHUSIESTS.
Chill out dude. You act like a base '90 240sx is a fucking Ferrari. So what if he wants to put some ricer shit on his car...at least he came here so he can be pointed in the right direction.

Anger management
05-10-2004, 09:27 PM
ill suffer the flame it dont bother me you had to start somewhere right. So anyway thanks for the info. I will start on the belts and shit. This is a rough crowd keep up the good work.

seksi240
05-10-2004, 09:35 PM
Unless that car is in great running condition, oil has been changed religiously, maintenance religiously, tuneups, etc. then doing something cosmetic first isn't a good idea. Check brakes, oil, hoses, and give it a tuneup. Then do whatever you want. It'll be easier on you in the long run, trust me.

MakotoS13
05-11-2004, 06:29 AM
Chill out dude. You act like a base '90 240sx is a fucking Ferrari. .

last time i checked performance oriented vehicle doesn't translate to"ferrari". i just can't STAND these people that buy a car to fix up then they ask what they should fix up... it's retarded. at least he's taking the abuse for stupid questions well.

RedlineRacer
05-11-2004, 06:57 AM
This does sound like a nitekids post. Wheres Mr.Meph?

The Dude
05-11-2004, 09:15 AM
last time i checked performance oriented vehicle doesn't translate to"ferrari". i just can't STAND these people that buy a car to fix up then they ask what they should fix up... it's retarded. at least he's taking the abuse for stupid questions well.
Hmm...140hp....sounds more like an economy car to me.

drift freaq
05-11-2004, 11:55 AM
Hmm...140hp....sounds more like an economy car to me.

hahahahaha the voice of the inexperienced speaks. Dude there have been so many Sports cars built that were performance cars that had less than 140hp. Look at the Datsun roadsters , 1968 Lotus elan , 1955 Porsche speedster, Mg midget, Triumph spitfire etc..... Performance does not always mean it has to have gobs of HP , Suspension tuning is performance as well.
your screen name fits you well.

The Dude
05-11-2004, 12:35 PM
hahahahaha the voice of the inexperienced speaks. Dude there have been so many Sports cars built that were performance cars that had less than 140hp. Look at the Datsun roadsters , 1968 Lotus elan , 1955 Porsche speedster, Mg midget, Triumph spitfire etc..... Performance does not always mean it has to have gobs of HP , Suspension tuning is performance as well.
your screen name fits you well.
The inexperienced? What the hell do you think I drive? I know how it handles in stock form...yes, it's fun to drive, but it lacks power (hardly performance oriented). By the way, I was talking about a stock 240sx, but since you didn't bother reading the rest of the thread I guess you wouldn't know.

How are you comparing a 1990 240sx to a Lotus, Porsche, etc? Maybe you ought to think before you post, fanboy.

drift freaq
05-11-2004, 12:57 PM
The inexperienced? What the hell do you think I drive? I know how it handles in stock form...yes, it's fun to drive, but it lacks power (hardly performance oriented). By the way, I was talking about a stock 240sx, but since you didn't bother reading the rest of the thread I guess you wouldn't know.

How are you comparing a 1990 240sx to a Lotus, Porsche, etc? Maybe you ought to think before you post, fanboy.
actually a stock 240sx holds quite well to those cars mister I need to call someone fanboy. Want figures? Here goes . .89 skidpad stock, center of gravity .29 coefficent of drag .31 .Those figures are stunning for a car that cost 15 thousand new in 1990. A C5 Corvette has slightly better figures .1-.2 better and cost threes times that(example).
Oh ya and you got your hp figures wrong as well a stock 1990 240sx put out 145 Hp and being a 2750 car was not a shabby figure for its day, add to that all the cars I listed were under 140 hp in fact some of them barely cracked 100 hp. Like I said before Perfomance oriented is not always about HP and I did read the whole thread and once again your screen name rings true

The Dude
05-11-2004, 01:22 PM
actually a stock 240sx holds quite well to those cars mister I need to call someone fanboy. Want figures? Here goes . .89 skidpad stock, center of gravity .29 coefficent of drag .31 .Those figures are stunning for a car that cost 15 thousand new in 1990. A C5 Corvette has slightly better figures .1-.2 better and cost threes times that(example).
Oh ya and you got your hp figures wrong as well a stock 1990 240sx put out 145 Hp and being a 2750 car was not a shabby figure for its day, add to that all the cars I listed were under 140 hp in fact some of them barely cracked 100 hp. Like I said before Perfomance oriented is not always about HP and I did read the whole thread and once again your screen name rings true
Where did I ever say that it handled like a pig...it doesn't. You don't have to go off spouting skidpad #'s and drag coefficients. My old Miata has lower skidpad #'s than my 240sx, but I think the Miata handled better. I also never said that the 240sx wasn't a good deal. It's fun to drive, has a decent suspension, and is RWD.
I think this argument is pretty much useless. Your view of the phrase "performance oriented" is obviously different than mine. Why bring this to a personal level? You act like I've discredited your religion...

aznpoopy
05-11-2004, 02:32 PM
You act like I've discredited your religion...

this is a 240sx internet forum + most people here are youngish males with lots of testosterone. of course you're gonna irritate them if you say the 240sx isn't the best car ev4r. ;) anyway quit the arguing; most people are just sick of bandwagon jumpers who know jack about the car. however, i think most of the people here (including me) are bandwagon jumpers - so whatever.

to the threadstarter (forgot your name) : 175k?
#1 compression check - if good then
#2 leakdown check. -if good then
#3 brake check / replace (rotors+pads+lines+fluid)
#4 tires.
#5 under the hood wear (sparkies, wires, dist, batt; belts & hoses, fuel filter, oil filter + oil change, check for leaks etc. etc.)

after that you can breathe a little easier... u'll most likely have other blown stuff on your car; but it'll run... repairs the first and foremost upgrade on any car.

BEISSEN
05-11-2004, 05:46 PM
Just start basic don't add performance until you can make sure the car is in good enough shape. have the compression checked like aznpoopy sugestted I have been around for alittle while when it comes tot he 240SX not say as long as some but just make sure it is in good enough shape.Then think about what you really want to do it has alot of miles on the motor so if you want power meaning HP then you are going to want to turbo the car a motor will need to be bought and rebuilt.If you want to be a sleeper so no one will ever know at first you are modified dont get a body kit until you get performance then when you look good you will have something to back it up with.Your other option is intake,exhaust, & headers.

Anger management
05-11-2004, 08:37 PM
thank you all sorry i dont know my shit

Andrew Bohan
05-11-2004, 09:42 PM
E=Engine

wtf?? E = Electronic Fuel Injection

Ghettokracker71
05-11-2004, 09:53 PM
wtf?? E = Electronic Fuel Injection

I've heard it either way,but whatever. Your proble right:)

MakotoS13
05-12-2004, 06:39 AM
what the hell? i just stated that it was a performance oriented vehicle. how many fastback, RWD, well balanced, and lightweight cars do you know that weren't built knowing that people would fix em up?

performance ORIENTED means i see it as something that nissan built with the intent of making a vehicle with a lot of potential. performance oriented could mean nothing more than a nice solid starting point. have you LOOKED at the suspension design and driven it?

jeez folks, nobody likes whiners.

khemix
05-12-2004, 08:18 AM
what the hell? i just stated that it was a performance oriented vehicle. how many fastback, RWD, well balanced, and lightweight cars do you know that weren't built knowing that people would fix em up?

performance ORIENTED means i see it as something that nissan built with the intent of making a vehicle with a lot of potential. performance oriented could mean nothing more than a nice solid starting point. have you LOOKED at the suspension design and driven it?

jeez folks, nobody likes whiners.

christ, stfu. Move on. You argue like your 12.

Chris

MakotoS13
05-12-2004, 11:03 AM
christ, stfu. Move on. You argue like your 12.

Chris

i was making a simple clarification, douchebag.

The Dude
05-12-2004, 01:23 PM
what the hell? i just stated that it was a performance oriented vehicle. how many fastback, RWD, well balanced, and lightweight cars do you know that weren't built knowing that people would fix em up?

performance ORIENTED means i see it as something that nissan built with the intent of making a vehicle with a lot of potential. performance oriented could mean nothing more than a nice solid starting point. have you LOOKED at the suspension design and driven it?

jeez folks, nobody likes whiners.
Miata, MR2, RX7 just to name a few. Like I stated before; my view of that phrase is obviously different than yours. I have an S14 with suspension mods, so yes, I have seen the suspension design (??) and driven it.

CoasTek240
05-12-2004, 01:51 PM
Unless that car is in great running condition, oil has been changed religiously, maintenance religiously, tuneups, etc. then doing something cosmetic first isn't a good idea. Check brakes, oil, hoses, and give it a tuneup. Then do whatever you want. It'll be easier on you in the long run, trust me.
ECHO, ECHO, ECHO

240KAT
05-12-2004, 02:22 PM
Buy a front clip
Put everything from clip onto car
????
Profit