tenzo-r seats

[DrDriftS14]

whatsup guys. ive got the hook up on some tenzo-r seats for my S13 i was just wondering if anyone has tenzo seats and if theyre worth a shit lemme know. -chad

[ch1873857]

just kidding man your car your stuff go for it

[Flybert]

If they are comfortable, do a good job of holding you in, and sit low or can be modified to sit low, do it. Wouldn't be surprised if they fell apart and faded in the near future though.

[Dousan_PG]

they are uncomfortable
hard
poorly made
yeah ive inspected and tried them
get some sparcos, much better

and yes you'll sit high w/ the tenzos
crappy brackets

[SilviaDriver]

say no to tenzo

[Nismo240SX]

i resent the sparco statement... sparcos are uncomfortable for someone 6'0" and average size (not skinny, nor fat) Tenzos are cheap, but not too bad as stuff like 3a racing and such.

[Dousan_PG]

sparco has a WIDE variety of seats. try more of them
i know quite a few tall people AND some hefty boys with sparcos and LOVE them
i like sparco, excellent seats

[oojpeeoo]

gyea i had a friend that swapped out his tenzos cuz they didnt fit right and faded in like a yr..save up sum money for awhile and get sum brides or recaros

[old_s13]

what kind of stupid shit is this...

why are companies like 3A racing and tenzo even being talked about on here?

i swear we need to have an initiation process or some type of screening before people get accounts on here.

[oojpeeoo]

what kind of stupid shit is this...

why are companies like 3A racing and tenzo even being talked about on here?

i swear we need to have an initiation process or some type of screening before people get accounts on here.

bc ppl dont have the money or patience for anything better

[NervGS]

There would be no ZILVIA without threads like this.

-glenn

[the240sxer95]

agreed TENZO is crap. my friend had one in his car( iuno why, idiot?) it faded sOOO bad.. it was once red and now is a light peachy color.. its hard and it hurts and feels umm yeah.

agreed sparco is failry cheap and does the job nicely. i never sat in a sparco sprint seat.. (my friend just got it) but it cost like 210 for the seat or something..

[justinhustle]

id say get cobra but i like that noone really has my seats

[mixxamike]

I'm 6'4" 185lbs. and have sat in a Spacro Speed. The seat is a little hard, but what else can you expect from a bucket seat like that. Otherwise, the seat seamed like an excellent bargain for the money. It kept me in a very secure driving position.




However...if you're willing to spend more money there are MUCH better Sparcos out there as well.

[old_s13]

guys, a seat isnt just for holding you in.. if thats the case, get a fucking piece of wood and zip tie some pillows to it, then make some side bolsters and strap some rope around your body and you've got harnesses.

a seat is not only responsible for your comfort and keeping your body supported during spirited driving, it also plays a BIG role in absorbing impact which shouldnt pass onto your body. Buy good seats, buy good harnesses -- dont injure yourself in the process.

stock seats are bare minimum, stock seatbelts are bare minimum.. this is what nissan sold that fit within the budget of our car. if you want to UPGRADE, spend the money and upgrade.. but dont DOWNGRADE. The only way to learn is to spend the time researching and learning about this stuff, then save and spend the money -- do it right or dont do it at all.

- Mike

[Andrew Bohan]

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[sykikchimp]

I've been eyeballing the Recaro Speed's with the sub-belt hole lately.. very nice.

[pruto]

see mike, you don't understand, half of these people want racing seats cause it "looks cool", not because it s better for driving. They want the bling bling look without shelling out the dough.

companies like apc and tenzo r survive because people don't CARE about how shitty their products are as long as it looks like they're living the style. Screw functionality, as long as it looks fast and expensive right?

[oojpeeoo]

agreed....there is no reason for any1 to spend couple hundred on aftermarket seats just for it to fade in about a yr and start tearing in like 2... afterall its ur damn seat... and ur gona be stuck in that seat till u fix it... my advice is to bear for a few more week..months..wuteva ur pay rate is and purchase some NICE seats... dont waste ur time and money on tenzos...there is no point..and eventually if u keep ur s13 u will wana swap it out

[MisfitFlesh]

I've been eyeballing the Recaro Speed's with the sub-belt hole lately.. very nice.

i was just lookin at that same seat, looks pretty good so i might have to buy one and test it out.

[revat619]

i swear we need to have an initiation process or some type of screening before people get accounts on here.

I really like this idea. Seriously

But to add to the topic, tenzo seats are crap. End of story. But if you like them go for it. I mean, it's your ass not mine. hahaha

Oh and the recaro speed is a very nice seat! I'm 5' 10" 150lbs. and its quite comfortable. The leg bolsters arent as high as a bride brix, but they still seem to hold pretty well. I'm still trying to decide between the recaro speed and the bride ergo 2. I'd like a brix "1" but you can't really get those anymore unless you've got friends in japan and the brix 2 is just too snug for daily driving, imo. The leg bolsters are too tight, imo.

But to recap, tenzo sucks. Get bride, recaro, or sparco. But In the end its your ass. Do what you want.

[old_s13]

back in the bbs days, we had a registration process that required filling out forms.. then people were voted on as to who can join and who cant.

THATS what we need to do. process of elimination, BITCHES.

[HyperTek]

man!! i went to pep boys and saw thier craptastic seat line up!! 3A seats or whatever.. I sat in them, I was thinking they where meant for extremely fat people.. Im serious!!

[NervGS]

man!! i went to pep boys and saw thier craptastic seat line up!! 3A seats or whatever.. I sat in them, I was thinking they where meant for extremely fat people.. Im serious!!

Americans = Lots of fat people.

-glenn

[Andrew Bohan]

i sat in their seats too, just for the experience. and yeah, stock seats will hold you better and feel better than that crap, easily. yuck :wackit:

[DrDriftS14]

see mike, you don't understand, half of these people want racing seats cause it "looks cool", not because it s better for driving. They want the bling bling look without shelling out the dough.

companies like apc and tenzo r survive because people don't CARE about how shitty their products are as long as it looks like they're living the style. Screw functionality, as long as it looks fast and expensive right?


yea which is exacly y i wrote started a fourum to see if they were functionable thanks dick

[DrDriftS14]

no tenzo for me thanks guys

[M.Piedlourde]

back in the bbs days

Oh man, you are old! BBS days!

Do any of these terms bring back any memories?

Procomm+, Kermit, Wildcat, Xmodem (or Ymodem!), 1200 baud, Door games?

Ah, the BBS days. Back when men were men and computers were really, really difficult to use. :D

Anyway, about the seats. DrDrift, I've never heard good things about Tenzo as a company. I encountered some of their seats at a show a couple weeks back. Cheap fabric (almost like felt) lightly padded and pulled over some PVC tubing. That's what it felt like to me. I can't imagine they'd be comfortable or last very long.

[old_s13]

Do any of these terms bring back any memories?

Procomm+, Kermit, Wildcat, Xmodem (or Ymodem!), 1200 baud, Door games?

Yeah, memories of lame PD bbs'ers...


Ah, the BBS days. Back when men were men and computers were really, really difficult to use. :D

Not really, just some intellect and you're okay... DOS was far from complex or confusing.

[pruto]

yea which is exacly y i wrote started a fourum to see if they were functionable thanks dick

you're welcome,

i hope you realize cheap rice is never functionable. say no to crap. save up or stay stock.

[DrDriftS14]

ok anyone know a good place thats dealin some Recaro speeds, ballin on a budget here

[justinhustle]

ebay

watch for fakes

[old_s13]

ok anyone know a good place thats dealin some Recaro speeds, ballin on a budget here
well then, you're not exactly a baller...

...because you're not BALLIN.

"snatch that shit off ya head, PLAYA"

[DrDriftS14]

how about some corbeau TRS or CR1's, good or no good? lemme know guys

[pruto]

whats wrong with your stock seat? why do you have to have aftermarket?

with seats you really get what you pay for, unless its used.

Look into stock nissan seats, like s14, R32, s15 seats all are pretty decent upgrade for a s13. And usually "cheap"

I've personally heard good and bad things about corbeaus, so can't really say.

look into sparcos, good quality at a decent price. Only problem is seat height.

Dude, you're buying a seat for yourself to sit your ass in right? so go out and test for yourself, go to a large meet and ask to sit in people's seats, see if you like the comfort, ride height, material etc. Don't buy a seat because some people online said its good and you've never sat in it before you get it from the UPS guy.

[Heartwork]

how about some corbeau TRS or CR1's, good or no good? lemme know guys

crappy as well...
cheap fabric that separates from the foam, not enough padding between bolsters and the damn tube frames, and they hurt like hell...

good seats arent cheap man

some OEM NIssan seats are nice, i.e. R32, R34, S15 seats....Jarcocorp on ebay usually sells them...

[M.Piedlourde]

Are S13 seats shit? Why's everyone telling this guy to replace his seats with OTHER Nissan OEM seats?

[NervGS]

Much like stock Miata seats (NA), S13 seats are shitty. In my opinion ANY GT-R seat is the way to go if you want OEM Nissan, I'd probably choose these over most aftermarket seat as they are almost bolt in, OEM quality, and a perfect fit for my Japanese ass.

-glenn

[pruto]

OEM seats are in the price range he's looking for. Flashy they're not, but they'll hold you in much better than aftermarket seats of comperable price.

[Shin_Kudo]

I agree on the OEM seats. My SE (S14) seats are great, worlds better than any cheap adjustable seat. (I specify adjustable because there are a few relatively inexpensive models made by reputable companies that are good, but are fixed racing buckets, like the Sparco Speed, for example.)

Still, I'll be going for some Brides when I get the chance. It's impossible to describe just how nice they are in real life. Even the fabric itself is unbelievable.

[DrDriftS14]

OEM seats are in the price range he's looking for. Flashy they're not, but they'll hold you in much better than aftermarket seats of comperable price.

not goin for flashy ive looked and havent been able to find anykind of gtr or s15 seats ive drove an s14 and they dont have the shoulder or support im looking for, im lookin for enexpensive seats because the pad on my ribs support is gone so i get stuck with a bar everytime i turn or move and just need to get replacments quick ill prolly just get some recaro speeds one seat at a time

[Shin_Kudo]

Was the S14 an SE or a Base? The seats are worlds apart.

[Dousan_PG]

s14 seats suck compared w/ aftermarket
the best stock seats as far as bolt ins go is GTR seats
s15 seats and 180sx still dont have that same support
pepole who say they do have never tried a high quality aftermarket reclinable/bucket seat (never tried in spirited driving/track time)
there's no comparision. its night and day.

[Brian]

i really dont know what this thread is about, but i can say that bnr34 seats are simply amazing. they are very supportive, yet very simple. i think they might be just as good as those pussy model brides. you know the ones, small bolsters, nothing supportive.

anywho... in closing, i would like to say that full bucket seats are bad ass.
the end.

[Shin_Kudo]

I don't think anyone's disputing the badassness of full buckets. It's just too bad badass seats are also really freaking expensive.

[old_s13]

Are S13 seats shit? Why's everyone telling this guy to replace his seats with OTHER Nissan OEM seats?

stock seats are almost as bad as putting a 280ZX front end on an S13.

:)

- Mike

[old_s13]

s14 seats suck compared w/ aftermarket
the best stock seats as far as bolt ins go is GTR seats
s15 seats and 180sx still dont have that same support
pepole who say they do have never tried a high quality aftermarket reclinable/bucket seat (never tried in spirited driving/track time)
there's no comparision. its night and day.

he's a wise man folks, listen to him. if anything s14's are "acceptable" in the sense that your back will not explode in pain, but they are far from performance.. they are "sufficient" daily driver seats. Want better? Pay to play.

- mike

[Dousan_PG]

I don't think anyone's disputing the badassness of full buckets. It's just too bad badass seats are also really freaking expensive.


tsk tsk
sparcos are VERY affordable for bucket seats
do more research

[DrDriftS14]

I don't think anyone's disputing the badassness of full buckets. It's just too bad badass seats are also really freaking expensive.

:werd: lol

[KiDyNomiTe]

Sit in seat before you buy it.

[Shin_Kudo]

tsk tsk
sparcos are VERY affordable for bucket seats
do more research

To some people, 250 bucks isn't VERY affordable. Especially people with no job...

[Dousan_PG]

To some people, 250 bucks isn't VERY affordable. Especially people with no job...
if you cant afford 250 for a goddamn seat you NEED A NEW HOBBY
give me a break
your car will NEVER be decent and you'll have cheap crappy modificaitons and nothing real
no good suspension
no good engine
no goood TIRES
youll be on junk everywhere

get a job. wrong hobby for poor people
250 please. that's nothing for a bucket seaet

[old_s13]

if you cant afford 250 for a goddamn seat you NEED A NEW HOBBY
give me a break
your car will NEVER be decent and you'll have cheap crappy modificaitons and nothing real
no good suspension
no good engine
no goood TIRES
youll be on junk everywhere

get a job. wrong hobby for poor people
250 please. that's nothing for a bucket seaet

hahahahahahahha serious man... if only you can imagine what us shop owners have to deal with.

$250 for seats? I sell side-markers that cost more than that... SIDE MARKERS!!!!

you know you like cars too much when you buy products for your s13, that cost MORE than an s13. I've been eye-ing some coilovers.. hahah 2,000 bucks.

jeeeeeeeeeeez

[NervGS]

Damn, thats the funniest thing I've ever heard. Why can't we all have jobs and make money?

You gotta pay to play. I'm sure Darwin is smiling.

$250 is shit for seats, especially something that holds you in and protects you. Can't mooch or lowball for everything. Either that or look for deals/form relationships/get hook ups like moi.

-glenn

[Shin_Kudo]

if you cant afford 250 for a goddamn seat you NEED A NEW HOBBY
give me a break
your car will NEVER be decent and you'll have cheap crappy modificaitons and nothing real
no good suspension
no good engine
no goood TIRES
youll be on junk everywhere

get a job. wrong hobby for poor people
250 please. that's nothing for a bucket seaet

250 is the price for bottom end sparcos.

I'd personally rather spend the 500 bucks that a pair of sparcos cost on an EXMAG, or a set of good tires (ore a couple sets of cheap drifting tires), or, hell, an extra pair of rims. Or a new AEG, or...well you get the point...

Not, by the way, that I never said I couldn't afford seats. I refuse to come near parts that aren't made by a good company. But it wasn't long ago that 250 bucks was a hell of a lot of money for me, (it's still quite a bit, seeing as how I only make 100 bucks a week...) back when I was in high school. And I know at least a few members here are students.... And I was saying that, because the guy who started the thread seems like someone who can't/can;t justify spending the money for a full bucket.

Plus, those bottom end buckets, while ok, aren't too great. I've sat in them, and I don't know that I'd want to drive on them every day.

[Shin_Kudo]

hahahahahahahha serious man... if only you can imagine what us shop owners have to deal with.

$250 for seats? I sell side-markers that cost more than that... SIDE MARKERS!!!!

you know you like cars too much when you buy products for your s13, that cost MORE than an s13. I've been eye-ing some coilovers.. hahah 2,000 bucks.

jeeeeeeeeeeez

2 grand isn't too much for coilovers. You should see some of the coilovers that the hardcore JDM guys are using. Think 1,000,000 yen. (That's 8,000 USD, give or take)

[Dousan_PG]

2 grand isn't too much for coilovers. You should see some of the coilovers that the hardcore JDM guys are using. Think 1,000,000 yen. (That's 8,000 USD, give or take)

8000 usd? which people use those. give details. race cars? yesss
drifters? noooooooo

hahaha
back up that 8K claim you just made.

hardcore jdm? riight

you have TEIN HE like me. works fine but cheap.

anyways about the seats
mine were cheap and so where my friends, mid quality for some, high for others.
depends on your luck really
my friends have scored CHEAP quality (bride) reclinables for quite cheap as well as inexpensive buckets that do the job. and are made by a reputatlbe quality company

[Shin_Kudo]

I don't know anything about them. Lorin (from DriftXtreem) was talking about them the other day. They are mostly racing-spec ones, intended for use in D1 and the like, but the really rich touge guys have started to use them. Of course, in Japan, it's not unheard of for D1 drivers to still be members/leaders of touge teams and still hit up the hills on a semi-regular basis.

As for seats, well, maybe you get good deals, I rarely get deals on anything. Plus, like I said, I hardly make anything anyway, and just gas and food take up a lot of what I do make, as I only have an unofficial part time job. I've applied to every real place in town, and never gotten a single reply from anyone...

[Dousan_PG]

I don't know anything about them. Lorin (from DriftXtreem) was talking about them the other day. They are mostly racing-spec ones, intended for use in D1 and the like, but the really rich touge guys have started to use them. Of course, in Japan, it's not unheard of for D1 drivers to still be members/leaders of touge teams and still hit up the hills on a semi-regular basis.

d1 ones are? not really
the most common in use for D1GP is KEI OFFICE (i think 12 drivers use it?) and the d1 spec is like 2grand plus...so many brands but most arent 8k..haha..even AD coilovers arent that much and they are FULL RACE SPEC coilovers.

8K? haha..no
even taniguchi's "race car" doesnt have such expensive coilovers

racing spec...see the AD comment
the d1 drivers who run touge are mostly not rich (with the exception of a few)
and the average coilover setup i cant see be more then 3k, for high end coilovers of most brands.

so....i think your wrong.

[Shin_Kudo]

Like I say, I'm just repeating something I heard from someone else, and that someone else is someone who is very reputable. He could be wrong, but it's unlikely.

Maybe the system he's talking about is fully custom-built to the user's preference. Or maybe it's a whole system, with coilovers, bushings, CAs, stiffenning parts, etc.

[Dousan_PG]

i can see a FULL suspension setup maybe..but even that. i have most everything and even w/ 3k dollar coilovers and retail prices i wouldnt be too close to 8k. maybe 5 or 6k

most dirvesr are sponsored too so the price drops even more..

stop reading drifting.com hahahaha

[old_s13]

shin kudo, arent you on automotiveforums or some crap? I could've sworn I've heard of you before....

man, i've never read so much bullshit than the crap smeared all throughout this thread.

Just some funny quotes I'de like to mention:

"You should see some of the coilovers that the hardcore JDM guys are using."
- Sure, but first.. explain to me what a hardcore JDM person looks like?

"but the really rich touge guys have started to use them"
- Does Paul Bunyan count? He's a mountain man...

"I'd personally rather spend the 500 bucks that a pair of sparcos cost on an EXMAG, or a set of good tires (ore a couple sets of cheap drifting tires), or, hell, an extra pair of rims. Or a new AEG, or...well you get the point..."
- What rims, let alone "good" TIRES cost 500 bucks? Jeeez....

"I don't know anything about them. Lorin (from DriftXtreem) was talking about them the other day."
- When you are talking with your buddies, its okay to say "I heard so and so mention this" and speculate. But when you are on a forum, the worst thing you can do is speak OTHER peoples words. People on these forums speak with facts and personal experience. If you dont have either of those, dont speak. Instead, spend more time reading (unless you enjoy being proven wrong).

"I hardly make anything anyway, and just gas and food take up a lot of what I do make"
- Eat more ramen and you'll be amazed at how much more money you'll end up having. ;)

Listen, the most reputable people I know start from scratch and dont have things like money, well paying jobs, let alone mechanical knowledge and skills. What they DO have, is the will and desire to advance in life. Read more, research more, MAINTAIN YOUR CAR MORE -- upgrade your car LESS (to start off). The more you focus on being more mechanically inclinded, the more knowledgeable you will become. I have friends who after 10 years of knowing them, still drive stock cars. BUT, I respect them a lot because they have lots of knowledge. Its not about what you drive, its about what you know and how you drive.

Not preaching, just hoping these words make sense so you dont make as much of an ass of yourself.

- Mike

[Shin_Kudo]

I'm on drifting.com, was on NICO for a while....

You might also know my name if you've watched Macross Zero (where I "stole" it from...)

Anyway, most people I wouldn't parrot, but Lorin always knows what he's talking about.

And note that I said a pair of rims. Not a whole set. So an extra pair, to have extra tires on, for drifting, or to pass tech at events, or whatever.

And you can get some pretty nice tires for 500 bucks. My Azenis cost a lot less than that....

I really understand what you're saying about modify your car less, by the way. I half wish that I hadn't bought a car with coilovers already on it, as I feel that having the car with coilovers for the whole time is too intimidating and has really kept me from improving for fear of the car being too much for me to handle.

And the comment about read more...well that's sort of the problem. I read so much stuff that what's true and what's BS kinda get mixed together, and I forget what is just hearsay.

Still, when all is said, I think Lorin must have been talking about something that exists. Like I said, he usually doesn't make shit up....well, unless it's about someone's mom..... :D

[DrDriftS14]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33701&item=2478695126&rd=1 check that out guys thats either a badass deal, or a badass scam what do u think?

[M.Piedlourde]

Other than GT-R seats or maybe S14/S15 seats, are there any other OEM seats that you guys would recommend to replace the stock S13 seats?

I saw someone mention Civic Si. Does Honda generally make good seats? What about stealing some from an RSX Type S?

[Nismo240SX]

Mike, the only reason i brought up the 3a racing, to show that it is mere crap... so why would you flame on that, as if good things were said about it? hmm... wierd.

[NervGS]

Other than GT-R seats or maybe S14/S15 seats, are there any other OEM seats that you guys would recommend to replace the stock S13 seats?

I saw someone mention Civic Si. Does Honda generally make good seats? What about stealing some from an RSX Type S?

Great seats, I recall they are made by Recaro, but I wouldn't recommend stealing any car parts, or anything off of anyone, just save up and buy them.

Dunno if they'll fit, most likely they will, you'll also have to get a custom bracket made.

-glenn

[M.Piedlourde]

Great seats, I recall they are made by Recaro, but I wouldn't recommend stealing any car parts, or anything off of anyone, just save up and buy them.

Harharharhar....ba-dum-BUMP!

Wow, I just flew in from New York, and boy are my arms tired!

;)

You know what I meant.

[old_s13]

"Tenzos are cheap, but not too bad as stuff like 3a racing and such."

Mike, the only reason i brought up the 3a racing, to show that it is mere crap... so why would you flame on that, as if good things were said about it? hmm... wierd.

- who's flaming? someone mentioned crap (tenzo) and you mentioned diarrhea (3a racing)

just stop talking about this shit.

[NervGS]

Harharharhar....ba-dum-BUMP!

Wow, I just flew in from New York, and boy are my arms tired!

;)

You know what I meant.

Heheheh, I forgot the smiley at the end.

-glenn