Who do you think would win?

[DSC]

I was just wondering who would win in a race (assumeing the cars were stock, 5 speed and the drivers had equal skill) the eclipse(best model), the integra (type r), or the 240sx(s14)?

the itr.

-whacked

[LanceS13]

The Eclipse GSX and USDM ITR run about equal around 15 flat.  The 240SX runs a good 7-9 tenths slower.  They aren't the fastest when it comes to straight line.

[whateverjames]

i say eclipse GS-T racing a type r, already moving at a decent speed the eclipse would win. but in the quarter mile, i think the type r would win against a GS-T or GSX.

[LanceS13]

Actually, the GSX would most likely get the holeshot from a standstill b/c of the AWD...and the ITR would catch up as it hit's it peak hp after VTEC engages.  And I thought the GST was slower than the GSX...is that right or wrong?

i belive the gs-t is faster .... and i believe that the gs-t would win...... the gsx would tie and the type r would be close if not the same as the eclipse...... now if we auto cross the eclipse would be last the type r first and the 240 second

[ca18guy]

Would'nt the GSX be faster then the GS-T? The GSX is all wheel drive and the GS-T is only front wheel drive. Mitshubishi would'nt make the top off the line GSX slower then the cheaper GS-T. Why am I arguing over an eclipse ? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

[JeffNJ]

Under the thread entitled &quot;accelerating a convertible&quot;, started by yours truly, there's a link to a huge list of 0-60 times and quarter-mile sprints. &nbsp;Since all of those numbers are representative of stock-condition cars, it should give you a pretty good idea who'd win.

I suppose I should've just gone and fetched that link to move it here, but, uhm, sorry 'bout that .. I didn't.

[Grant]

Eclipse GSX

GST is only front wheel drive, so more power gets to the wheel, rather then the all wheel drive where you gotta distribute all the horses to 4 wheels. So GST over an GSX. And besides, I'd pick my 240 over an Eclipse any day. Especially over a GSX. Wouldn't own a Mitsu AWD if you paid me. Our cars are much more capable, or so I think.

[whateverjames]

cool. i was going to explain, but you did that for me. in the quarter mile, a gsx would beat a gst, but from a rolling start the gst would eventually win. they're the same horsepower.

[AmericanBornSilvia]

IMO... ITR will probably be best course car..as for 0-60 straight line then yeah..not too big on the drag scene

[Jay Wood]

Well, i know this is not fair but hey...nissan power right. Since everybody else gets to use their top model, then we should get to as well. Can you say s15? I think that will beat the itr and the eclipse... hands down.

[LanceS13]

But guess what we can't get in the U.S. &nbsp;
Can you say S15?<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>

[Jay Wood]

true...but you cant stop a guy from dreamin' about one.
P.S. I know that its not available in the us...thats why i said that it was not fair to compare jdm to usdm.

(Edited by Jay Wood at 10:23 pm on Sep. 19, 2001)

[LanceS13]

I know...I just felt like making that point.:cheesy:
I wish we did get the Silvia S15.....or the EVO VII, WRX Sti, R-34 GTR, JDM ITR................:(

WRX Sti is coming to the US in 2003 for the 2004 year model. &nbsp;I can't wait!!!! I love that car now... Imagine it with a 13.0 sec 1/4 mile capability, bigger turbo, better tranny.... ahh... &nbsp;Anyway, umm... I'd much rather spend extra 5 grand and do some motor work plus get &nbsp;a lil' turbie thingy on my car before I'd buy any of the cars we listed above.

[JeffNJ]

Has anyone seen the hard-topped Silvia convertible? The roof retracts like an SLK's. I so f'n need that car, and I need it now.

#### the Pacific Ocean. #### it to ####.

(Ok, I found a pictue, and came back to edit this post so it was included)

http://img.seznam.cz/img_novinky/silvia_v.jpg

The first person to get that thing out of Japan and into New Jersey will be my new best friend. =)

(Edited by JeffNJ at 11:23 am on Sep. 20, 2001)

Ok, I'm back to edit some more. &nbsp;I just found a link with a press release regarding this blessed announcement...

<a href="http://www.freshalloy.com/cars/nissan/varietta/varietta.html" target='_blank'>http://www.freshalloy.com/cars/nissan/varietta/varietta.html</a>

I should probably start a new thread altogether.

(Edited by JeffNJ at 11:25 am on Sep. 20, 2001)

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cool. i was going to explain, but you did that for me. in the quarter mile, a gsx would beat a gst, but from a rolling start the gst would eventually win. they're the same horsepower.
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GSX runs about 5 or 6 tenths of a second slower than a GST.

PS: that Silvia looks dope.

[LanceS13]

I've seen a couple of place with times for the GSX and GST. &nbsp;In one they both run 15.1, in another the GSX runs 14.9 and the GST runs 15 flat. &nbsp;The AWD GSX gets the wholeshot, but the lighter GST starts to catch up further down the track and they end up being about even.

I was close, I guess. I dunno, internet is like a bathroom wall, get all kinds of info all over the place. Some true, some false.

[LanceS13]

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I was close, I guess. I dunno, internet is like a bathroom wall, get all kinds of info all over the place. Some true, some false. </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
lol...that is very true. &nbsp;I've never heard it put that way before. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

Yeah, well.. you know! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

[Archangel]

I like the analogy, but I hope most of the stuff i've read on bathroom walls isnt true!!

[DragonReborn214]

Haha.

For a good time call ArchAngel ***-****

[LanceS13]

&quot;Some people come to sit and think
Others come to shit and stink
I just come to scratch my balls
And read the bullshit on the wall&quot;

All time favorite bathroom wall literature................ok, this got waaay off topic :cheesy:

I'm glad you posted that. It's interesting... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> I like it, seriously.

[antigrind]

fghgfffffffff

[vancouvers14]

hey jeff. &nbsp;i'm going to japan in march, so i'll try and sneak a convertible back in my suitcase. &nbsp;ok, maybe just a 1:24 model.

[vancouvers14]

hey jeff. &nbsp;i'm going to japan in march, so i'll try and sneak a convertible back in my suitcase. &nbsp;ok, maybe just a 1:24 model.

[LanceS13]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from antigrind on 1:23 pm on Nov. 26, 2001
fghgfffffffff
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why did you bring up a 2 months dead topic with this?

[S13Grl]

Maybe he was trying to laugh and his fingers hurt?

[bing]

my buddies got a 99 gst and he had a 98 gst, never lost really lost, WRX gave him a run, but his car wasnt at peak performance then, then he totaled it twice.

still, i think that most people dont have the balls for all out racing on the streets. just me and him