Help JON change his clutch + BBQ!

[Sil-Abc]

well i just got my new clutch in and i need to install it BUT i dont wanna spend 250 for someone to do it so ill do it myself. I was thinking if anyone could help me out and pull down the tranny and help me put it back up. Hoping this can be a 2 after-night project. thinking of doing it Monday + Tuesday 10-11 at 2:10pm to whenever. Help me out PLEASE. Ill also have a BBQ for both days for whoever helps me out (If you help out wit the tranny u eat free, if not then bring something like sodas or more food to compensate for it and just chill i suppose :squintd: (remember im a brokeass highschool student = low budget)). So uhmm yea...

My house (if interested just post or pm me and ill give u my addy)
2:10pm to whenever
Mon + Tues
(also can someone bring some extra tools cuz i dont have anything power tools or anything that will make the job easier)

[Var]

well i just got my new clutch in and i need to install it BUT i dont wanna spend 250 for someone to do it so ill do it myself. I was thinking if anyone could help me out and pull down the tranny and help me put it back up. Hoping this can be a 2 after-night project. thinking of doing it Monday + Tuesday 10-11 at 2:10pm to whenever. Help me out PLEASE. Ill also have a BBQ for both days for whoever helps me out (If you help out wit the tranny u eat free, if not then bring something like sodas or more food to compensate for it and just chill i suppose :squintd: (remember im a brokeass highschool student = low budget)). So uhmm yea...

My house (if interested just post or pm me and ill give u my addy)
2:10pm to whenever
Mon + Tues
(also can someone bring some extra tools cuz i dont have anything power tools or anything that will make the job easier)


Jon(where's the h?) i'd love to come help but...i get off work @ 6pm. :wiggle: call me up if shit gets hectic and you need another person.

[Ghst 01]

Jon i can help any day before 2pm..... I have to work @3pm this week

[Sil-Abc]

west: no H cuz its jonathan but jon for short :D and uhh after 6pm is fine. i need as much help as i can get. wanna try to do this all in one day hopefully.

ghst: damn wish u could come after cuz i got school from 2pm and earlier. Hmm hopefully everyone else will come. gotta call narc and david

[Var]

Jon..unless something comes up, i'm there for sure. I may even bring some meat...Teryaki Skirt Steak and/or Hawaiian Beef Marinated Ribs. kinda pricey but bomb as hell..unless you got somethin better?

[dvdevo]

damn var.. you know how to eat.. u gotta help david with the meats when he throws another bbq.

[Var]

damn var.. you know how to eat.. u gotta help david with the meats when he throws another bbq.


what can i say? i'm a fat armenian. my mother spoils me with good food every damn day. i just sent her out to get cheese cause i cant have burgers with no cheese. :p o man

[Ghst 01]

Acutally i just looked at when u wanna do it... I am off on Mondays and tuesdays... so I'm there for sure

[Sil-Abc]

YAYERZ! so far i compiled(sp?) of whos coming:

Alfredo
Var
Erika
Daniel
Richard B
Luke
Alex S.
Canton
my other friend scott

who else?

[that180guy]

umm....we can try to try to roll out.....

[dvdevo]

good luck...which clutch did u end up buying?

[kingsol]

you're in high school? which one?

[dvdevo]

anyways uhh yeah.. SHOT GUN

[that180guy]

ugh......RIGHT NUT?

[Var]

ugh......RIGHT NUT?




and yes...ussually i hav useless post....deal with it!!


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[Sil-Abc]

hahaha

king: yes im still in highschool. i go to aragon high next to hillsborough.
david: got the nx1-hdss
alex: right nut..... *shrugs*

[that180guy]

westborough - that would be one of the more useless posts.
jon - nx1-hdss??

[Var]

ya wtf kinda clutch is that? ACT? APC? Mugen?

[Ghst 01]

So do u have all the tools u need? Remember to bring alot of jacks cuz rasing up that tranny is gonna be a bitch to do.

[CoasTek240]

damn u left coasters.... i wish we had more representing 240tuning around here.

[that180guy]

doesnt steven have everything needa for the clutch change?

[stillmatic]

I'm down to help and I can let you borrow my tools. I just need a ride to your place.

SHOT GUN! :rl:

[Ghst 01]

I'm down to help and I can let you borrow my tools. I just need a ride to your place.

SHOT GUN! :rl:
I got u on the ride if u want since u live close to me

[dvdevo]

Jon: wtf is nx1-hdss
Narc: *raises fist* SHOTGUN!

alfredo: yeah jon knows he needs lots of jacks..he helped watch when i did the manual swap.

narc + alfredo = oh yeah, its on the way to jon's house anyways.

[stillmatic]

I got u on the ride if u want since u live close to me

Oh yeah, foshigitty. Where you at? I don't see you on AIM. Are you having a party at your house? Wassup with it...

[iggy]

dvd you goin? narc you goin? *shotGUN!*

[stillmatic]

Eagle #2 is going.

SHOTGUN! :rl:

[that180guy]

LaZy P3n6u1n pwns all!!!!!! :fawkd:

[Ghst 01]

"SHOTGUN!" in my own car..................

[dvdevo]

nah i can't go, dont feel like driving for jon again(meaning drive from sj to san mateo..).. =\ *ahem remember when u had to pick up your car..* anyways.. plus i got a concert to goto on tuesday.. w00t w00t... SHOTGUN

[Sil-Abc]

hahaha well first.. ACT nx1-hdss. heavy duty pressure plate + street/strip disc. umm what else.... not really a party... more like a group "project" and bbq. as for tools ill need some extras. err i still gotta call steven.

[FRpilot]

9 ppl to change a clutch? at least you'll get things done faster.

[Var]

9 ppl to change a clutch? at least you'll get things done faster.




:rofl: seriously.. i'll make sure i'm needed before i cruise by.

JON: *SPECIFICALLY* is there anything you need that i may be able to borrow from the shop... you said power tools but i doubt you have an air compressor at your house..? Anyways...make a list and i'll see what i can cover.

[ghostuss]

if you need someone to bench up the clutch, I can help you. We did the Steven's clutch and I was the one benching it up, along with the help of Al, Ard, and Steven on the side. :wiggle: IT was a bitch it get that tranny angled right to go in but once it's in, it is all down hill. Make sure you have BIG jacks since the higher the car goes the easier it is to angle.

Edit: does this have to be on monday? Can we do this on sunday and take only 1 day? It takes like 2-3 hours most to do it. Monday and Tuesday I got both school and work!!!

[dvdevo]

just get a big ass breakerbar or a buff guy , then uwont need powertools.

[kazuo]

Ya seriously, Steven had it basically done by himself in a few hours... we just had to swing by and help him put the tranny back up. Thats the only time you really need a gang of people, a floor jack is enough for you to get the tranny off yourself, swapping the clutch plates out shouldn't be difficult... you will need a ride to get that flywheel resurfaced tho. :P :D

Ah well, good excuse to have a party =)

I can't be there of course cus of work, so good luck to you. :D

[knghtryde]

For those saying shit about my cooking.... I can cook well it's a small get together type thing... You know expesive it could be to feed 120 people that kinda food....

David, the mini meet at my house is gonna be the bomb... You guys are gonna tast real cooking I'm making enchiladas.....

Varr, David, PM me for time and date information..... Unless I already told you guys.... It's just gonna be kicking back, playing video games, eating, and playing cards and stuff... LoLz.... Think of it as a House Warming Get together....

[Sil-Abc]

well i dont kno what im doing so i just need someone to help me out. also i wish i could do it on sunday but i got work from 10-8. Only days free is mon, tues, and fri. Ill do it on fri if everyone is willing to help and we can finish in one day but its all about the resurfacing thats bothering me.

[Var]

we should start on monday. One thing i learned about working on cars is you always leave time for the unexpected. unless you're talking about tomorrow, and not next friday


You know expesive it could be to feed 120 people that kinda food....

think over 500 bucks just for meat... at least.

[autobahNESSA]

Hmm bad weekend for me to help jon. Hey keith is leaving sunday, planning on haveing a bbq for his ass prolly on sat or sumtin. He is being deported to the phillipines. And doesnt plan on comeing back. so ya do ur clutch some other time.

[dvdevo]

woah deported? werid... anyways
David: i know u had 100+ people, to serve... i didnt mean u were a bad cook ;)

[speeddreamz]

Hey chris did u get a ticket for drifting.... someone told me u mighta got ur car towed?

good luck on the clutch gents...and damnit i told u to get the 6 puck jon =P

[Sil-Abc]

hahaha. decided not to spend that much. and y is keith being deported? does it have to do wit his SR and stuff?
i probably cant make it to the bbq either since i got work till *EDIT*8pm and got school the next day.

also we start on mon. if it takes a day, which i doubt, that would be perfect. due to the short time to get the flywheel resurfaced, it may take mon just to resurface and put the whole thing back up on tues.

NOW what should i get for food? and how many ppl are coming? It looks like roughly 10 so what do u want? if ppl r bringing food that would be great. (Thanks to Var if he's bringing his meat :D). also any vege eaters coming? Better to be safe than sorry

[phrozen]

lets just have a meet and bbq at ur hosue... wed get that shit done in 30 mins lol

[Var]

hahaha. decided not to spend that much. and y is keith being deported? does it have to do wit his SR and stuff?
i probably cant make it to the bbq either since i got work till 10pm and got school the next day.

also we start on mon. if it takes a day, which i doubt, that would be perfect. due to the short time to get the flywheel resurfaced, it may take mon just to resurface and put the whole thing back up on tues.

NOW what should i get for food? and how many ppl are coming? It looks like roughly 10 so what do u want? if ppl r bringing food that would be great. (Thanks to Var if he's bringing his meat :D). also any vege eaters coming? Better to be safe than sorry


well i wasnt expecting to feed 10 people AND help you with the clutch. @ 9 bucks a pound, it could get really pricey. I'm open to suggestions.

[kazuo]

We can't talk about why Keith is being deported.. but he is gonna start up LP Philipines Division

har har har :P

[Sil-Abc]

lol... okie dokie. but anyways uhh it HAS to be mon and tues cuz i got work on weds and thurs 3-10 for the whole month. weekends i got work too so thats out of question. only days open r mon and tues so thats y i wanna do it then. err as for food.... lets say its a meet :D just bring some chips or drinks and ill have the bbq up and ready.

[dvdevo]

knowing jon... someone has to go there early to set up the bbq.

[knghtryde]

Okay, we gotta do something for Keith then you guys.

[Sil-Abc]

yea too bad i cant make it tho cuz i got work sat 3-10 and sun 11-8. so yea unless its today i wont make it :(

[kazuo]

Keith is already having a BBQ thrown for him on saturday.

You guys are more than welcome to come through.

[Sil-Abc]

O YEA FOR THOSE WHO DONT KNO HOW TO GET TO MY HOUSE, CALL MY CELL OR ASK AROUND CUZ SOME PPL ALREADY KNO! heres my number.... please dont abuse it.... 650-346-1578. if your lost go to San Mateo tap x and call the cell and i can go show u the way from there to my house.

[that180guy]

no seriously, what time is this shit all starting? :hyper:

[Sil-Abc]

2m at 3pm cuz of AP testing. on weds well work at 2pm

[that180guy]

ill proly swing by bout 4-5ish

[Var]

Eyy JON.. sorry bro . It's my mom's birthday so we're going out to dinner. If you still need my help tomorrow i'll be there. sorry again.

[z_boi]

i'll prolly be there around 3 tomorro.

[kingsol]

if you guys have trouble getting the tranny in, try tying a rope around the back part of the tranny and pull it up from the inside. it will be easier for the guy benching the tranny and it will be easier to get things to line up. make sure to max out the jackstands, i had mine maxed out and put on top of wooden blocks.

[that180guy]

looks like im out of this one, Luksta also(cuz i dont feel lik being a ass alone :fawkd: ) im fucking beat from skool. ill be there for sure 2morrow if ya still need the help.


yea, yea yea...we're known to flake.... :duh:

[aznb128]

YAYERZ! so far i compiled(sp?) of whos coming:

Alfredo
Var
Erika
Daniel
Richard B
Luke
Alex S.
Canton
my other friend scott

who else?

so john...you got one friend? lol jk jon....ill be there man...i live fuckin 2 minutes away...! lol

[Sil-Abc]

dang only a 3 ppl came to help me today..... wtf.... i still need help gettin the tranny down

[dvdevo]

haha waht do u mean 'wtf' dont expect people always want to help...i know someppl always get caught up on their own things.. *cough* wiring

[FRpilot]

:hyper: 3 people is MORE than enough help.. quit complaining. do some research on how to do a clutch change. its a basic maintance process that is a hassle but its basic maintanance. i would probably pay someone to do it having done one, but if im broke w/ time i'd do it myself.

here's a little writeup for you..

pulling down the tranny can be done on your own. you should do the basics for now or shoulda done this today.

*take off exhaust (makes things hella easier since it gets in the way)
*unbolt 4 bolts on 2 piece driveshaft on the center section
*drain tranny fluid
*take off shifter/assembly from inside your car
*unbolt all the bolts around tranny
*take driveshaft off
*pull tranny out w/ a jackstand and jack as support
*start unbolting various bolts on pressure plate and then clutch disk will drop *off when you take it off
*unbolt the bolts on the flywheel
*go take flywheel to get resurfaced and just chill while you're waiting

installation is the opposite. you WILL need help putting the tranny back on. and maybe someone there to hold the crank in place while you take off the flywheel bolts since it does move around. you need a 1' 1/16'' socket or equivilent in metric. otherwise, all those ppl there woulda just been standing there. they coulda handed you tools and stuff to make things easier, but 3 ppl is more than plenty.

ppl do get caught up in their own busy lives as david tells.. but yea.. maybe you shoulda done some research in finding out what you needed to do. but what i typed up is pretty much the walkthrough. i shoulda posted it earlier. sorry jon. see you tomorrow most likely.

[Sil-Abc]

i dont have enough jackstands and no one is lending me one. now if you think about it, i expected several ppl to come today to help out cuz they said they would and ive always helped them out before BUT they never came. i do favors and most ppl already kno that i would help them if it was car related or somethin important but i mean come on, cant u just help me out wit one tranny job as a favor.

ALSO KENNY, you actually think that I can handle that tranny?!?! fuckin think about it, im scrawny and can barely lift anything. if that thing falls or loses balance then there goes my tranny and broken bones. ive already done all that i could.

i understand that some ppl couldnt make it cuz of personal reasons but i mean for others is it that much to ask just for a someone that knos how to do it and help me out. u have to remember this is my first clutch/tranny job and its always to watch and learn the first time then actually do it urself so u DONT FUCK UP.

[Var]

JON! what did you guys get done yesterday? i'm coming by today so let me know specifically what you need and i'll see IF i can get some things from the shop. Maybe i'll just pick up my dad's shop key so we can go pick things up as they are needed.

[FRpilot]

the tranny wont just DROP down after you undo several bolts. find a way to slowly get the tranny from 1-2 feet high to the ground so you can move it. nothing should break (the tranny or your bones) if you can get it down safely. youll see when ur under your car. the only thing that could happen is if you severely crack your tranny bell housing. anyways, you dont need jackstands/jack. you could use anything that will support the tranny from dropping on the floor (blocks of wood, milk carton crates, bricks, etc.) after you unbolt the bolts that hold the tranny to the engine, just wiggle it and the tranny will slowly come off. to move the tranny out after you have taken it off, i used a little handtruck that was vertical and small enough, if you dont have one, i guess you can used a piece of cardboard or wood and drag the tranny out. the tranny doesn't just "DROP" down, it's actually supported still since the 'spline' is still in the engine but once you start wiggling it off, you'd want to get the tranny out as soon as possible since the weight of the tranny is putting a lot of strain on the spline.

also, now that i think about it? do you have a place to push/pull the throw-out bearing off the carrier? i guess bring that into the shop as well while ur geting ur flywheel resurfaced. do you remember how david auto-manual swap was done? or parts of it?

[chineseb0i]

jon, u shoulda IMed me..but u didn't so oh well..lol. If u really need help..u can help pay for my gas since i would be coming all the way from Davis..but changing the clutch isn't hard. I'm guessing you're not going to resurface ur flywheel so if i were u would get some sand paper, preferrably low grit to sand down the flywheel a bit..it's better than nothing right? But REMEBER where the bolts go. I changed the clutch on my SR with my 1 friend and playing the game "FIND WHERE THE BOLT GOES" is not fun. Besides that, i recommend someone pulling down on the downpipe, having a jack under the tranny, and someone pushing on the tranny to help get it out. IT should be easier than doing the SR cuz the SR sits close to the firewall..it took me about 10 minutes to get it out but it will budge. Also make sure you get all bolts. The harder ones can be acessed from the top with a combonation wrench. If you can't turn it due to the lack of leverage, i recommend using a bar of some sort to put it on where the wrench is and hammering it to get the sucker loose. MAKE SURE u are loosing it before u hammer it, u don't want to tighten it some more. Remember..lefty loosey..righty tighty. Also, DO NOT over tighten the pressure plate bolts. I over tightened them and it broke off..about 55-60 lbs/torque should be fine. IM me if you need help. I'll make the drive from Davis to San Mateo if you help pay for my gas fair..($10-$15?)

[chineseb0i]

for the release bearing i got it out the ghetto way..2 flat head screw drivers, some patience, and a good ol hammer. For the pilot bearing..i didn't take it out. Honestly you don't really need to replace it since it's one of those things that you don't really need to replace that often but standard procedure and the FSM i believe say you should replace it. I didn't replace mine cuz i inspected it and looked fine to me. but hope my insight helps

[ghostuss]

chill ppl. Big D is gonna drop by today to help. Man I had to work from 2 to 11 last night so... Anyways I will be riding with Al since my car is in the bodyshop getting repaired.

[Sil-Abc]

o yea var bring a torque wrench cuz i dont have one

[phrozen]

word 3 ppl is more then enough... maybe ill swing by there later today. Dropping the tranny shouldnt take more then 20mins, changing the clutch assembly only takes 10 mins with the exception of the flywheel resurfacing, reinstalling the tranny takes the better part of an hour if ur benching it. Full clutch job can be done in 3 hours if u know what ur doing

[Sil-Abc]

haha so far its around 8+ hours.... o yea where can i take it for resurfacing? goin start the charcoal now for the bbq.

[phrozen]

napa auto parts, transmission shop. look in ur fone book. Hey what cha cooking? u should tempt me to come down there, tell me what ur cooking!

[phrozen]

8+ hours and its still not dropped???

[Var]

haha looks like a bunch of un motivated stoners showed up yesterday. Eyy JON i'm not bringing the torque wrench today UNLESS you call me and tell me the flywheel has been resurfaced and is ready to go. I can only take it for one night, and i doubt the flywheel will be ready today. I'll call you before i get off work tho.

[chineseb0i]

is the flywheel that bad? if not..u can jus sand it down..well have fun torquing the fly back on. Remember to hand tighten in a star sequence...and the torque in a star sequence about 103lb-ft of torque was it? Make sure you get the right socket..gotta use those 12 point ones..good luck

[kingsol]

if you think this part is hard... hahaha, wait till you try putting the tranny back in!

[SilviaNinja240]

I woulda been there monday Jon, but 4pm? I had to be back by 5.30, so I don't know what good I coulda done in like 1 hour. I know you had testing in the morning so we couldn't do it at 7 or 8am but I'm going to be quiting one of my jobs, so hopefully now i'll have more time to hang out w/you guys

[chineseb0i]

so what's up with this 2 day clutch thing? if so many of u guys r working on it..it should be done by now right? or are u planning on resurfacing the flywheel jon? n e news from n e 1?

[z_boi]

it is done!

[Sil-Abc]

whooopteee dooo! but now i gotta get used to it ::sigh::

[phrozen]

hey west are u var?

[Var]

yes. wassup jason

[Sil-Abc]

just wanna say thanks to everyone that came and helped out. also thanks to jason and rich for the ride..... time to go break in the damn clutch.... :(

[DRIFTgasm]

HEEEEEEEEEEEEEYYYY GUYS!!! ITS ME. lol i joined zilvia now!

[stillmatic]

Haha. Start post whoring.

Oh yeah, who got my tools?

[that180guy]

nice avatar kenny.

[DRIFTgasm]

Thanks!.....hoorah what is this?..my 2nd post?