Raceland coilover long term review

[Thedriftbadger]

Seems like there's no real raceland coilover review. Well there's one but it's just installation. I'm doint a long term review that i will continually update so everyone can know about what kind of quality these coilovers are.
The car: s13 hatch, ka powered, full interior.
I also got ruca's and toe rods for the rear at the same time as these.
PLEASE READ THIS: Obviously i don't expect these to last forever or outperform more expensive ones. But at $520 shipped i figured they are worth a try. Hopefully i can give enough info and testing on these to see if they are a good option for people on a budget.
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Unpacking (sorry no pics i was in a rush) : they come with camber plates and have adjustable height. You get the 4 brackets i'll talk about in a minute and 2 wrenches. They look like a quality part, i'll give them that. And plus they come with stickers!:drool:
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Installation: same as any other coilover. Took me about 4 hours to do the coils, rucas, and toe arms. My god everything is so tight from the factory. I did, however, have the drill like 1/100th of an inch out of one hole in the front strut towers. I think it might just be my car though since it was hit. Either way not a big deal, took like 20 seconds. The other install thread says that they don't come with brake line holders. This is WRONG. They do indeed have them, they are just different from what you're used to. Basically it comes with these 4 metal brackets that bolt on to one of the lower strut bolts. There's 4 of them in case you have abs. (pics coming later), and you use your factory brake line clamp and it works perfectly. So installation wise i have no complaints. Here's the front installed
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p547/Thatoneaudiguy/IMG_20130619_175959.jpg
Here's a better shot of the brake line holder
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p547/Thatoneaudiguy/IMG_20130619_180010.jpg
You get 4 of these:
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p547/Thatoneaudiguy/IMG_20130619_180559.jpg
Take the grommet off for the brake lines and leave it on for the abs lines if equipped.
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Initial drive: not as stiff as i thought they would be but that's kind of a good thing. They are 7k/5k spring rates. They ride really nice. No bounce, good dampening. Obviously they try to dislocate your spine over speed bumps but thats all coilovers. They are a HUGE improvement over stock.
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Moar low!: let me just say, they go plenty low. The rear will just about lay frame and the fronts will get a stock chuki bumper about 1 inch off the ground. Here's how she's sitting
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p547/Thatoneaudiguy/IMG_20130619_180136.jpg
Not too low cause it's my daily. Plus my exhaust hangs low
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p547/Thatoneaudiguy/IMG_20130619_180117.jpg
Front ground clearance (hood is open, not broken, cause i had to take the next picture)
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p547/Thatoneaudiguy/IMG_20130619_175859.jpg
Camber plates
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p547/Thatoneaudiguy/IMG_20130619_175919.jpg
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In the front i can go about 2 inches lower without taking the collar off. I know it's hard to tell in the pics but i only have like 3 inches of ground clearance in the front. In the rear i can go like 4 inches lower or something completely stupid. Basically lower than you could ever need.

[alexander240]

badass thanks bro! im def going to look at this. Now for all the haters to start posting.

[vipergtsr1000hp]

theres always haters on cheap coilovers lol. i had godspeed coils on my s14 for over 2 years daily driving racking about 23k miles on them. they rode the same throughout. took them out cuz i got a great deal on kts coils. the godspeeds looked the same, not blown, just dirty when taken off. let us know how it goes cuz im about to get some for my 01 civic es1.

[alexanderig]

I don't understand I've read a lot of review threads about these blowing rather quickly. And on multiple forums for different cars. It's one of those parts that you really get what you pay for. And what other coils have you owned that you can compare it to? besides godspeed please.

Ps Spoiler alert: they suck and when you ride in a car with real coils you'll regret not doing it right once.

[slidewayz240]

completely different brands, but I have tein super drifts on 2 of my cars, and ebay emusa coils on a third. I just got them to dump the car to the ground. I have used the emuse coils for almost 2 years without a single problem. This included year round driving through the salt in the north east, a few drift days, and still no problems. Are they as comfortable as my teins? No. Does the dampening do a damn thing? Absolutely not. Do they work as a (proven to me) reliable way to lower my car, and make it a little more fun to drive? Absolutely 100%.

Cheap coilovers are not for the hard core drift/autocross and grip crowds (granted some people use them with absolutely no problems). If you have a car that you want to not roll all over the place in a corner, be a bit lower to the ground, and make the 1 or 2 drift/auto-x events that you go to in the summer more enjoyable, I would recommend a cheap coilover over an expensive one every day of the week. If you are never going to use the r&d that is put into making a proper coilover work, why pay for it?

[Thedriftbadger]

I think some of you are missing the point of the thread. I'm doing a test on them. Longetivity, over all quality, ride, etc... No one has a real review on these. Shit i even wrote that i don't expect much and you guys swear i'm saying these are the best thing out there. If you don't have something to contribute then please don't comment. I don't need people shitting on my review thread.
$500 and a 2 year warranty, what do i have to lose? I guaranteed 2 years of service and that's plenty of time to get some money for better coilovers.

[g35gabby]

GL in your time riding on them, had one of the locals literally snap in 1/2 on him driving around town... They were installed properly, and made a horrible mess of the car.

Just be safe and GL to you. hopefully your experience will be better. Husband had 3 years and 45k miles on his BC coils without a single sniffle of issues.... didn't take much selling to get me to buy BC instead.

PS what do you have to lose? a lot if they snap in 1/2, but maybe you will get lucky.

[Bmxer300zx]

Ya they're popular with the vw stance crowd about a million reviews on em. A buddy of mine had em and his car bounced around like dick and they weren't even a year old. I see vw guys bouncing all over dragging ass and I wonder if they're on racelands or cut springs lol
Those spring rates seem terrible though look into some swift springs to tighten it up a bit.

[i cant drift worth shit]

Pics of broken raceland or it didn't happen.

[Z28ricer]

Are they as comfortable as my teins? No. Does the dampening do a damn thing? Absolutely not.

I would recommend a cheap coilover over an expensive one every day of the week. If you are never going to use the r&d that is put into making a proper coilover work, why pay for it?


So, if you aren't going to autocross, your car should ride like shit the other 28 days out of the month you drive the car, to save a few hundred $ ?

Sweet advice, i'm sure those other 28 days of the month the R&D into a useful damper wouldn't be noticeable.

Does adjustable "dampening" leak some of the shock oil out to dampen the shock body ?

I guess if you cant manage to find the difference between damping, and dampening, you'd probably suggest something that will ride like shit as a good idea.

[Z28ricer]

30 miles on them. They are pretty stiff, I think mostly cause they are not broken in, whicg is also making them feel just slightly underdampened. For now.....

Pics of broken raceland or it didn't happen.

There is NO breaking in of a shock.

They use seals that do not wear on the inside of the cylinder, this isn't an engine.

[slidewayz240]

So, if you aren't going to autocross, your car should ride like shit the other 28 days out of the month you drive the car, to save a few hundred $ ?

Sweet advice, i'm sure those other 28 days of the month the R&D into a useful damper wouldn't be noticeable.

Does adjustable "dampening" leak some of the shock oil out to dampen the shock body ?

I guess if you cant manage to find the difference between damping, and dampening, you'd probably suggest something that will ride like shit as a good idea.

To add to the pissing match here you are more than welcome to check out by build thread, see the cars I have built, and currently am building, then tell me I don't know what I am talking about. Apparently auto correct changing a word on me means I know nothing about how a shock/coilover setup works and functions.

Never ever did I say they were better, or even remotely the same, and never did I say I preferred the ride of the cheap shit. I just said, from my experience they aren't as bad as people on here like to make them out to be. I highly doubt that most of the people reading this drive their car in a matter that the adjustable damping (got it right this time, thanks boss) makes a difference. The majority of the hard ride people complain about would be resolved by putting in softer springs. Softer spring rates putt less force on the shitty strut valving and allow them to work better. Same thing happens when people put those ridiculously hard springs that come with the e-bay slip on coil pieces then wonder why their stock shock valving and seals go bad.

Dont drive like a maniac down a pothole filled road and none of it matters anyways.

[Thedriftbadger]

What has happened to my thread!? Lol
Guys please stop the arguing.
I didn't make this thread to prove racelands are goor or bad or anything. I bought them cause I wanted to go low on the cheap while I saved up some cash for school. I just figured id share my experience with everyone in case there's other people in the same situation. That is all. Call them shitty or cheap ir whatever, I don't care, it doesn't mean anything cause I didn't buy them to be a fucking race cars driver, I just wanted some god damn coilovers. Now if you all could stop the pissing match id really appreciate it.

[typhoonslippery]

I think some of you are missing the point of the thread. I'm doing a test on them. Longetivity, over all quality, ride, etc... No one has a real review on these. Shit i even wrote that i don't expect much and you guys swear i'm saying these are the best thing out there. If you don't have something to contribute then please don't comment. I don't need people shitting on my review thread.
$500 and a 2 year warranty, what do i have to lose? I guaranteed 2 years of service and that's plenty of time to get some money for better coilovers.

Raceland 240sx Coilovers - Installation and Review (http://www.nicoclub.com/archives/raceland-240sx-coilovers.html)

sorry to quote another forum but the person who wrote it up said they were bouncy as well " The dampers (especially the rear) are a little on the weak side. There’s definitely some bounciness going on that could be cured with a stiffer damper (or adjustable dampers)."

[Z28ricer]

To add to the pissing match here you are more than welcome to check out by build thread, see the cars I have built, and currently am building, then tell me I don't know what I am talking about. Apparently auto correct changing a word on me means I know nothing about how a shock/coilover setup works and functions.

Never ever did I say they were better, or even remotely the same, and never did I say I preferred the ride of the cheap shit. I just said, from my experience they aren't as bad as people on here like to make them out to be. I highly doubt that most of the people reading this drive their car in a matter that the adjustable damping (got it right this time, thanks boss) makes a difference. The majority of the hard ride people complain about would be resolved by putting in softer springs. Softer spring rates putt less force on the shitty strut valving and allow them to work better. Same thing happens when people put those ridiculously hard springs that come with the e-bay slip on coil pieces then wonder why their stock shock valving and seals go bad.

Dont drive like a maniac down a pothole filled road and none of it matters anyways.


I would have taken your reply for someone who know's what they are talking about without needing to check any build thread, or any of your other claimed references, except for this little giant piece I've bolded in your reply.

The spring rate has VERY little to do with the issues that pisspoor coilovers have with normal day to day driving, i'm guessing you daily drive on a perfectly smooth racetrack that's perfectly maintained, because you'd have to for the valving in cheap coilovers to not matter.

While softer spring rates may help if you've got a coilover with valving sucks for a higher spring rate than it should have, may help, its not the main issue in the first place.

Virtually ALL of the shitty coilovers people are usually trying to defend have little to no R&D into piston design and valving, and have pretty simple linear pistons, so they've either got good valving for the low velocity good handling area, and far too much at high velocity bumps and comfort, or vice versa.

The only part of your reply that is accurate and true is that the adjustment setups on all of the coilovers people are being mislead by, are in fact useless and rather sad that people will continually fall for the marketing based on these terrible adjusters.

[Thedriftbadger]

Shut up and look at my pictures!!!

[Z28ricer]

Shut up and look at my pictures!!!


Yay !


Now if only they were capable of riding well and looking decent, instead of just being shiny.

[Thedriftbadger]

Raceland 240sx Coilovers - Installation and Review (http://www.nicoclub.com/archives/raceland-240sx-coilovers.html)

sorry to quote another forum but the person who wrote it up said they were bouncy as well " The dampers (especially the rear) are a little on the weak side. There’s definitely some bounciness going on that could be cured with a stiffer damper (or adjustable dampers)."

Yes that's the thread i was referring to with the false information. Hence why i did not link it. :ugh:

[Thedriftbadger]

Yay !


Now if only they were capable of riding well and looking decent, instead of just being shiny.

I see you're in florida. If you ever see me i'll let you drive it and you can make your own opinion on how it rides:coolugh:
Like i said, talk all the shit you want, i'm not here to prove anything. I haven't even formed an opinion on them yet.

[Z28ricer]

I see you're in florida. If you ever see me i'll let you drive it and you can make your own opinion on how it rides:coolugh:
Like i said, talk all the shit you want, i'm not here to prove anything. I haven't even formed an opinion on them yet.


I've driven cars with better coilovers that still don't ride well, even in your original post you yourself stated they were rough on bumps, this is a telltale sign of a linear valved setup on the street, it sucks.

People will say going to a softer spring is the solution, which it isn't, I've also driven on 9/7 springs with complete comfort when it comes with to bumps and road irregularities.

The reason why people who know what they're talking about knock junk coilovers is because they're going to get the same level of performance and quality as throwing a set of the $60 ebay sleeves and springs on the stock shocks. Its silly when the amount you spent was 60% of the cost of putting together something far better, but instead rush to buy junk instead of waiting and running quality.

[Thedriftbadger]

I've driven cars with better coilovers that still don't ride well, even in your original post you yourself stated they were rough on bumps, this is a telltale sign of a linear valved setup on the street, it sucks.

People will say going to a softer spring is the solution, which it isn't, I've also driven on 9/7 springs with complete comfort when it comes with to bumps and road irregularities.

The reason why people who know what they're talking about knock junk coilovers is because they're going to get the same level of performance and quality as throwing a set of the $60 ebay sleeves and springs on the stock shocks. Its silly when the amount you spent was 60% of the cost of putting together something far better, but instead rush to buy junk instead of waiting and running quality.
Either you can't read or you just love to repetedly state the same thing over and over. :mrmeph:

[Z28ricer]

Either you can't read or you just love to repetedly state the same thing over and over. :mrmeph:


I guess you cant comprehend the fact that it is physically impossible for your coilovers to somehow make me think they don't ride like crap, and that I can know this without having been in your car.


I'm not sure how this equates me not being able to read, seems more like your reading comprehension sucks.

[zooopreme]

What can be said about these coilovers compared to a Tein + GR2 strut and spring combo?

[Z28ricer]

What can be said about these coilovers compared to a Tein + GR2 strut and spring combo?


These coilovers will allow you to adjust your ride height.

The Tein+GR2 combo will allow you a vehicle that doesn't ride like shit.

A set of used Evo Bilstein shocks some coilover collars and a little work, will allow you both.

[DJ-of-E]

Thedriftbadger, have you ever daily driven a set of Ohlins or Penske shocks?

[Z28ricer]

Thedriftbadger, have you ever daily driven a set of Ohlins or Penske shocks?


The sad part is that it doesn't take that level / cost to have very similar ride quality.

Bilstein, Koni, and KW get you there.

[zooopreme]

These coilovers will allow you to adjust your ride height.

The Tein+GR2 combo will allow you a vehicle that doesn't ride like shit.

A set of used Evo Bilstein shocks some coilover collars and a little work, will allow you both.

First, I've ruled out your opinion because although you may be knowledgeable of the differences between dampening and damping, you don't own a set nor have you driven on a set. As a matter of fact, most of what you're saying is theorized statements or hearsay.

Second, I own multiple sets of entry level coilovers ranging from blown Megans to several stock/custom valved Fortune Autos all the way to Stance's XR's. And I've test driven coilovers of a lot of different chassis and qualities. Even was a part of R&D testing for my buddy building his own set.

Third, a Tein + GR2 combo rides like shit compared to stock or reputable entry level coilover, in terms of ride quality. Because of the design of the S-Chassis front struts, lowering springs allow about an 1" or 2" of travel and anybody that's driven a car riding on bump stops will say it's not all that great compared to cheap-ish coilovers.

Fourth, not everybody wants to hear how great Bilsteins and Ohlins and KW's are. Thanks to every Captain Obvious, it's a given. I would be surprised if they weren't great. So save the pretentious suspension jabber for somebody that actually uses expensive coilovers for hard driving--as they were intended for.

I asked the OP because my friends don't track their cars anymore and wanted me to scope out a cheap coilover. And with the lack of S-Chassis Raceland coilover reviews, I figured I'd ask.

[Thedriftbadger]

What can be said about these coilovers compared to a Tein + GR2 strut and spring combo?

I've never ridden in a car with that setup. Although I recently rode in an s13 with hks springs and struts, which is a pretty common setup and around the same price. I will say that it rode slightly smoother, but it did have more roll in the corners. The racelands are stiffer and handle corners better. They have adjustable camber, height, and preload. Basically everything a normal coilover has except adjustable dampening (if thats the correct term). These would be perfect for someone who just wants stance. The street manners aren't the greatest but i wouldnt say its bad. On crappy road they it can get a little rough but on any half decent road they ride nicely.

[Z28ricer]

First, I've ruled out your opinion because although you may be knowledgeable of the differences between dampening and damping, you don't own a set nor have you driven on a set. As a matter of fact, most of what you're saying is theorized statements or hearsay..

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Indeed I don't own a set of the OP's junk.

I have been in vehicles with your alternate option.

Honestly based on this part of your reply, I hope you're stupid enough to buy that cheap junk and end up with it based off of someone not being able to admit or realize they wasted their money on crap.

Call it theorized and discredit it for that, but after riding in vehicles with cheap crap, and disassembling said cheap crap alongside quality stuff, some people will be smart enough to heed the advice, don't worry though, you aren't required to.

And yes you're right I don't own a set, I've got some Bilsteins, and some Penskes, and quite a few sets of "entry level" coilovers disassembled being turned into housings for quality dampers though.



Second, I own multiple sets of entry level coilovers ranging from blown Megans to several stock/custom valved Fortune Autos all the way to Stance's XR's. And I've test driven coilovers of a lot of different chassis and qualities. Even was a part of R&D testing for my buddy building his own set.


So you own a bunch of "entry level coilovers", whats your point ? Because ALMOST everything that's a typical Bolton schassis coilover is going to be in the same group, with varying levels of quality control, and different tiers of repeatability to the adjusters, but almost none with a decent piston design.



Third, a Tein + GR2 combo rides like shit compared to stock or reputable entry level coilover, in terms of ride quality. Because of the design of the S-Chassis front struts, lowering springs allow about an 1" or 2" of travel and anybody that's driven a car riding on bump stops will say it's not all that great compared to cheap-ish coilovers.


Sure sounds like your example must have been cut springs, because they do ride far better than cheap coilovers.


Fourth, not everybody wants to hear how great Bilsteins and Ohlins and KW's are. Thanks to every Captain Obvious, it's a given. I would be surprised if they weren't great. So save the pretentious suspension jabber for somebody that actually uses expensive coilovers for hard driving--as they were intended for.


You're right on that first line, everyone wants to cuddle each other over how their cheap junk is good enough, instead of admitting it rides like shit.

It doesn't take "expensive" coilovers for a non ride like shit result on the street, Konis and Bilsteins are both doable for close enough to most of the cheap junk everyone is running that you have no foot to stand on for that argument, people are just flat lazy and want an out of the box bolt on solution.


I asked the OP because my friends don't track their cars anymore and wanted me to scope out a cheap coilover. And with the lack of S-Chassis Raceland coilover reviews, I figured I'd ask.


Because there aren't a shitload of cheapies already out there that if nothing else at least don't blow within a year, which is about all that can be said for megan, isis, stance, pbm, etc.

[Thedriftbadger]

Z28ricer please gtfo. You are shitting all over my thread. I NEVER said these were good. I never said they were better than anything. I never said they arent complete pieces of shit. I don't know what they are yet. I've only had them a day. But by the way you're talking it sounds like you've owned these for years. I know there's better stuff and i know you can spend more and get more or spend less and mix and match and get cool stuff, but why does that even matter when i'm reviewing the fucking racelands. Jesus christ dude seriously get out. No one wants to hear your shit.

[Thedriftbadger]

Thedriftbadger, have you ever daily driven a set of Ohlins or Penske shocks?

Nope, sorry

[Z28ricer]

Z28ricer please gtfo. You are shitting all over my thread. I NEVER said these were good. I never said they were better than anything. I never said they arent complete pieces of shit. I don't know what they are yet. I've only had them a day. But by the way you're talking it sounds like you've owned these for years. I know there's better stuff and i know you can spend more and get more or spend less and mix and match and get cool stuff, but why does that even matter when i'm reviewing the fucking racelands. Jesus christ dude seriously get out. No one wants to hear your shit.


See, called it, group hugs amongst those with junk.

Also, I didn't say that you said they were good, I didn't say you stated they were better than anything, in fact the main points in any of my posts were arguing with others, for their own incorrect, or stupid replys.

The point of anyones replys to threads about cheap junk coilovers and people promoting them is that its just flat silly that you'll buy cheap junk and try to justify it when quality stuff can be had in the same price ballpark.

[rich280zx]

This threads going down like a high school fight after school. I'm currently on gr2's and twins and its not that bad. No crazy bounciness after bumps and it takes turns better, but still has a shit ton of body roll. Had them for 20k miles now.

[zooopreme]

Because ALMOST everything that's a typical Bolton schassis coilover is going to be in the same group, with varying levels of quality control, and different tiers of repeatability to the adjusters, but almost none with a decent piston design.

And now I've definitely caught your ignorance and I know fora fact that you've been lurking coilover threads around the net and just taking what you've read/heard.

Both my Stances and Fortunes have improve jetting throughout the clicks from their standard coilovers and I know the kind of quality both companies have put it.

Sure sounds like your example must have been cut springs, because they do ride far better than cheap coilovers.

When did Tein makes pre-cut springs? I bought mine stock and they have such little travel. If you've owned a set, you'd know.

You're right on that first line, everyone wants to cuddle each other over how their cheap junk is good enough, instead of admitting it rides like shit.

Because there aren't a shitload of cheapies already out there that if nothing else at least don't blow within a year, which is about all that can be said for megan, isis, stance, pbm, etc.

Honestly, you can keep on shitting on this thread and you can keep talking about cuddling with other males, but unless you've driven/owned/tested a set of coilovers, your opinion about something you've never tried isn't worth shit. I haven't even mentioned how much hearsay and copy and paste you've slapped on to your responses.

I'm not defending Raceland or cheap coilovers in general. I'm on the side that says your thread shitting shouldn't be credited as a valid opinion.

[Z28ricer]

And now I've definitely caught your ignorance and I know fora fact that you've been lurking coilover threads around the net and just taking what you've read/heard.

Both my Stances and Fortunes have improve jetting throughout the clicks from their standard coilovers and I know the kind of quality both companies have put it.



"have improve jetting" seriously ? this is you showing that you know what you're talking about ?

Again, as I've already stated, you don't have a clue what you're talking about. The only thing that even comes close to anything with referring to "jetting" is that the adjusters typically use a needle and seat, or "jet" however there is no "improve jetting" throughout the adjustment range, only adjustment, yes you notice a change throughout the range, that isn't hard to do at all, but your dampers have an extremely high probability of the left and right damper not even coming close to matching when on the same settings.


When did Tein makes pre-cut springs? I bought mine stock and they have such little travel. If you've owned a set, you'd know.

I said nothing about precut, I said if they were bottoming out you were probably on a cut set, big difference here.


Honestly, you can keep on shitting on this thread and you can keep talking about cuddling with other males, but unless you've driven/owned/tested a set of coilovers, your opinion about something you've never tried isn't worth shit. I haven't even mentioned how much hearsay and copy and paste you've slapped on to your responses.

I'm not defending Raceland or cheap coilovers in general. I'm on the side that says your thread shitting shouldn't be credited as a valid opinion.

Heres something since you claim to be an expert on the "quality both companys put in" (I wish you could comprehend how generic and stupid that sounds), but you can add these to your list, pics from my own collection of R&D.

JIC Magic FLT-A2 piston, http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/303596_10151033645233593_309689557_n.jpg

The adjuster seat, machined into the shaft, non removable, highly unlikely to have good enough machining to produce identical force changes damper to damper.

Silkroad RM/A8
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/552942_10151028468908593_736113592_12122812_209553 0892_n.jpg

Again shaft adjuster seat machined integral to the shaft. Same problems as above.

Bilstein 36MM Standard digressive piston, lightyears ahead of what you'll find in virtually every damper you've played with.

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff177/Z28ricer/DSCN0914.jpg

Penske "55mm" pistons, top right "high flow linear", others on right standard linear, left side double digressives, and digressive linears

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/996678_10151730498118593_1540922166_n.jpg

Penske shaft jets and needles, these are what it takes to get a damper with adjustability to actually be worth having an adjustment knob

The ones on the right are Penskes old design 3 Degree needle, the ones to the left are the newest design, originally out of the 8760 damper, but now used in all.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/600871_10151730498228593_1575331382_n.jpg


Sorry, I don't have any pics of my ohlins parts uploaded at the moment, or the Bilstein COB/RBT pistons.

But i'm going to guess my R&D holds a little more value than yours.

[SupaDoopa]

Things like this are those kind of things that are better left being bought once. 500$ and change or whatever you paid isn't like saying 'oh well, it was a 100$ experiment." No. It was over 5 times that. Go grab a good set of PBM's or FA's or something and roll hard on something good you can feel comfortable beating the shit out of because after looking at your car, they're going to go through an absolute shit storm.

Last thing you want is to snap a coil and your car explode into oblivion. Or something.

[Z28ricer]

Things like this are those kind of things that are better left being bought once. 500$ and change or whatever you paid isn't like saying 'oh well, it was a 100$ experiment." No. It was over 5 times that. Go grab a good set of PBM's or FA's or something and roll hard on something good you can feel comfortable beating the shit out of because after looking at your car, they're going to go through an absolute shit storm.

Last thing you want is to snap a coil and your car explode into oblivion. Or something.


The bold part, one of very few typically used Bolton coilovers that I wouldn't throw in the scrap pile if you gave them to me.

[zooopreme]

You've strayed far from the original post. You've shown you're good at taking dampers apart--nice R&D (that's research and development, in case, you were wondering). Congratulations. There were some cookies for you but I was too busy eating them while you decided to upload some photos from facebook to show how great at dismantling you are. Gold star, man. Gold star.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mc42yyr7zz1qi53q4.png

How difficult is it to just stay out of this thread? You're bright enough to earn a gold star but too stupid to shut up.

The way I see it you hold little credibility for a review thread about a brand you've never tried yourself. REGARDLESS of how many coilovers you've dismantled yourself, if you've never driven on these, your opinion is just what you've heard from a friend of a friend of a friend of his ex best friend of a guy who thought was his friend.

Nobody and I mean NOBODY said these coilovers were the greatest and they hold as much greatness as your off the shelf brands or whatever brand you've previously dismantled.

And fwiw, jetting really matters to entry level coilover consumers because 1.) it's a marketing sham when ebay brands put out numbers like "36 way dampening" 2.) for cheap brands, the difference between the clicks are so subtle that you may as well have 5 or 7 clicks (exaggeration) 3.) companies like Fortune and Stance actually use quality dampers compared to cheap brands and for Fortune, they supply and fill their own.

Lastly, read up: http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/47261-front-s13-suspension-travel.html, most lowering springs and STOCK designed struts run into this problem. With little shock travel, you call that a quality ride?

[Thedriftbadger]

I'm just going to ignore your guys arguing cause it doesn't contribute to my thread.
Anyway, i did some drving around tonight on different roads and put a few miles on them. The only time i felt anything i didn't like is when you get 2 or more consective bumps at higher speeds you start to feel like the back is just slightly underdampened (if that's a word). But over one bump or something you won't notice it at all. The roads around here are total garbage too and it seems to handle it pretty well.
After one day i'll say i'm fairly happy. They are pretty stiff though, not too bad.
I have to get the diff welded before i can do any sideways action though. Unless one wheel wonder in the rain counts..Lol

[xkamikazestormx]

because after looking at your car, they're going to go through an absolute shit storm.


hahahahahaha

[Thedriftbadger]

I'm going to make a video from inside the car of driving an e46 bmw then my 240 down the same roads so you can get somewhat of an idea of the ride quality.

[jr_ss]

How is a video isn't going to let you feel ride quality? The mentality of people that come from this state astonishes me at times...

[Thedriftbadger]

How is a video isn't going to let you feel ride quality? The mentality of people that come from this state astonishes me at times...

It will give you a general idea of how harsh it is like if its bounching around or slamming over bumps. You know what, fine i won't make a fucking video. Fuck me for trying to a thorough review.

[vehicle336]

Oh Jesus Florida... WTF is in the water down there?


It will give you a general idea of how harsh it is like if its bounching around or slamming over bumps. You know what, fine i won't make a fucking video. Fuck me for trying to a thorough review.

No, fuck you for buying Racelands.

[jr_ss]

It will give you a general idea of how harsh it is like if its bounching around or slamming over bumps. You know what, fine i won't make a fucking video. Fuck me for trying to a thorough review.

I'm all for a detailed review, but a video isn't going to let you feel anything. It may give hints to a point, but if your going to do that, you need to do multiple suspensions on the same chassis at the same heights with the same alignments. Going from a BMW to an S-chassis is not an apples to apples comparison.

[Thedriftbadger]

I'm all for a detailed review, but a video isn't going to let you feel anything. It may give hints to a point, but if your going to do that, you need to do multiple suspensions on the same chassis at the same heights with the same alignments. Going from a BMW to an S-chassis is not an apples to apples comparison.

Well i don't own multiple s13's. Sorry.

[Thedriftbadger]

Oh Jesus Florida... WTF is in the water down there?




No, fuck you for buying Racelands.

You obviously haven't read the thread.

[DJ-of-E]

I'm all for a detailed review, but a video isn't going to let you feel anything. It may give hints to a point, but if your going to do that, you need to do multiple suspensions on the same chassis at the same heights with the same alignments. Going from a BMW to an S-chassis is not an apples to apples comparison.

jr_ss's explanation is still is valid. Coilovers or Shock/Spring setups are only just 1 part of the suspension setup. The arms, chassis, position of coilovers, etc, are all just one part of the suspension. Going from S-Chassis to BMW is more like apples to fuckin cheesecake. Whip cream on cheesecake taste better than on an apple.

[Miguelone]

Whipped cream sounds horrible on cheesecake...

[BoredEE]

What about whipped cream on an apple?


(this thread was ruined, sigh, I'm just sticking a fork into it)

[3411]

hey man good review post keep the thread updated.

its funny i always see every one talking shit but i have yet to see some one help pay for "better coilovers"

keep the updates if any thing go's bad and so on

[Galaxy _S14]

Hell ive had racelands for 2 years never had a single problem..

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[tricky_ab]

hey man good review post keep the thread updated.

its funny i always see every one talking shit but i have yet to see some one help pay for "better coilovers"

keep the updates if any thing go's bad and so on

Wait what?

[Thedriftbadger]

The point of the bmw was to show what the road was, not to compare the ride to.
And whipped cream of cheesecake sounds fine to me.
My thread is dead anyway, but i will keep posting about longevity and such so there's some info out here about these.

[Thedriftbadger]

Hell ive had racelands for 2 years never had a single problem..

Sent from my SPH-D710BST using Tapatalk 2

I see it says s14 in your name. They dont make these for s14's. So you either have an s13 also or you're lying:wiggle:

[Thedriftbadger]

If you all haven't noticed i'm a pretty easy going guy. I don't really get upset but some of you are just too much. I bought these expecting to replace them within a year. My stock stuff was on it's way out and i didn't want to spend a ton of cash but i prefer new stuff. Racelands are what i ended up with. I figured i'd contribute to the 240 community by doing a review on them for other people who are in a similar situation. It's simple as that. Can you guys please cut me some slack, i get it the video is a stupid idea and i won't do it. And racelands are cheap, i got it.

[Galaxy _S14]

I see it says s14 in your name. They dont make these for s14's. So you either have an s13 also or you're lying:wiggle:

I have them on my db7 integra .....

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[DJ 21o3]

Hopefully a few mods can clean this up. I understand what the OP is doing. Pesonally, the cheapest I would ever go is Fortune Auto...but the fall semester coming is keeping me from going more expensive right now.
I can understand where he is coming from and he even admitted he knew they wouldn't be top notch and planned to replace them soon. Why drive a monster truck for another year saving for some nice coils when you could slam it cheap and still be able to get the nice coils the next year?

[TheRealSy90]

Fortune Auto or bust. Best thing out there imo. They don't win Time Attack all the time for nothing.

[jr_ss]

The problem with most people purchasing coilovers is all they care about for the most part is how low they go. If you can't slam the proverbial S-chassis dick in the dirt, no one gives a fuck. Going that low means no matter how well the valving/spring setups are, it's doing to ride like shit, plain and simple. Obviously this doesn't pertain to this end users review and that surprises me because that seems like the trend as of late. So, congrats OP for not wanting to pound dirt with your S-chassis dick...

[KiLLeR2001]

Buy a set of stock OEM shocks and springs for like $80 and save up for a decent set of coils. Why is this concept so hard for people? Instead of buying $500 coilovers and risking your life, you already have $420 saved up for when you are ready to purchase quality.

I mean there are some parts you can get away with buying cheap, but suspension is definitely not something you want to experiment with unless you are in a controlled testing environment.

[towlie]

Coilovers. Lets argue about them.

Cliff notes:

MY OPINION > YOUR INSIGNIFIGANT LIFE

[ShakotanGazelle]

oh my lol.

This thread tho....

[illvialuver]

wooooow.
Just read the whole thread. and I just want to apologize on behalf of the members of zilvia, that have gotten so caught up in posting THEIR opinions in YOUR FUCKING REVIEW THREAD!!!! and have demonstrated their complete lack of reading comprehension. This was never intended to be," hey guys , so what the fuck do you think about these cheapo coilovers"

So by posting this review thread , the op was using this forum for one of it's truest purposes. The sharing of information with other members of the community.

Let him post his experiences with them, so people can make decissions on if they want these damn things on their cars for themselves.

[Rich260z]

You should try them with swift springs. At least when you do get better coilovers or if these blow you can reuse the swift springs.

Inb4: why would you put good springs on bad coilover.

[KiLLeR2001]

Yeah, lets also try Godspeed springs on Ohlins.

[MedHat240sx]

i deff wouldnt mind giving raceland a shot. A friend of mine has bin rolling on Racelands on his VW for about 2 and a half years now and there isnt anything wrong with them they still feel and look new. Stiff as fuck and literally laying frame and it sees quite a bit of track time. Drag racing aswell as Autocross. His experiance with them they are just like your average coilover i cant see Raceland making AMAZING coilovers for the VW then shitting on other cars. Doesnt make sense. Currently im on Megan Tracks which are 4 years old with no leaks no squeaks no problems what so ever dapening still works no ceasing what so ever. They have out lasted some of my buddys coilovers who are rolling on Stance. Some of the cheaper companys are making a quality product for a reason. im also using a cast iron top mount turbo manifold from isis. BEST manifold i have ever bought. 2 years of being beat to shit with no flex pipe and no cracks what so ever.

[ixfxi]

You clicked on the review for Raceland Coilovers.

Here is your review: They suck.

End of review.


ps: Where is Race Land?

[ATLspeed]

...let us know how it goes cuz im about to get some for my 01 civic es1.

I have these on my 02 civic coupe and I dont like them. The rear springs are a little to soft for my taste. Other than that they are ok.

[Thedriftbadger]

Well time for an update. I've got about 700 miles on them now and they're feeling way better. The first 3-400 miles, well honestly they sucked. It was so harsh i almost didn't want to drive the car. At about 500 miles a noticed they had gotten a lot smoother and i didn't even think about them til i hit a bump. At approximately 700 miles they are actually feeling awesome. The feeling of the rear being underdampened is greatly reduced, no bounce at all. I'm actually starting to like these. And i'm not just saying that cause i spent money on them and i don't want to admit anything. I'm being 100% honest in saying that i'm pleasantly surprised with the ride, it's way better than i expected.
And for those who are going to say they don't need to break in, they sure as hell do. This is my 3rd lowered car and all of them have had the ride get better after the springs started to loosten up.

[bc.]

I have never heard of a break-in period for coilovers, but maybe that is just me. I have heard that the springs take time to 'settle' though.

Also, this is pretty important, did you get an alignment after you installed them? Sorry if you already stated this.

[Flako]

Heres ur review, racelands....good to lower ur car...period.

Dont try to be all DK with them or take em to the track....cuz yo shisnits will break.

Period.

[Thedriftbadger]

I have never heard of a break-in period for coilovers, but maybe that is just me. I have heard that the springs take time to 'settle' though.

Also, this is pretty important, did you get an alignment after you installed them? Sorry if you already stated this.

The spring is what i'm talking about being broken in. It's a coiled up piece of metal that's been sitting for god knows how long. It will loosten up once it gets compressed and extended a few time.
I did the best i could to align it til i could get it to the shop, which i'll be at in 20 minutes

[Thedriftbadger]

Heres ur review, racelands....good to lower ur car...period.

Dont try to be all DK with them or take em to the track....cuz yo shisnits will break.

Period.
Oh gee thanks. Now i don't even have to do a review any more cause we have this amazing in depth review right here in that comment! Thanks man!

[Corbic]

Did anyone pick up yet that the OP is from Florida?

[ixfxi]

Did anyone pick up yet that the OP is from Florida?

wait.........

i thought you were the OP?

[codyace]

wait.........

i thought you were the OP?

You down with O.P.P. ?

[Corbic]

wait.........

I thought you were the op?

hay hay tar

[immasonlowery]

i dont understand why everyone is hating on the op? alls he was doing is posting a review he never said there amazing or better then any other coil over? although i have owned zeal function d coilovers hks hypermaxx 2 s god speed projects and d2 race 2s and i personally like the race lands. they ride pretty good get crazy low and damper pretty good aswell :) cant beat 520 shipped.. and are far better then godspeed projects.

[codyace]

i dont understand why everyone is hating on the op? alls he was doing is posting a review he never said there amazing or better then any other coil over? although i have owned zeal function d coilovers hks hypermaxx 2 s god speed projects and d2 race 2s and i personally like the race lands. they ride pretty good get crazy low and damper pretty good aswell :) cant beat 520 shipped.. and are far better then godspeed projects.

I find it hard to believe that you'd take racelands over the HKS and Zeal offerings, unless the ones you had were blown when you got them used.

[Thedriftbadger]

I find it hard to believe that you'd take racelands over the HKS and Zeal offerings, unless the ones you had were blown when you got them used.

He never said he prefered them he just said he liked them. :picardfp:

[immasonlowery]

lol hell no i dont prefer them. the zeals were the best coils ive ever driven on. i was just saying ive driven on nice coil overs and i think the racelands are decent. and deff worth the money.:)

[SupaDoopa]

Was it worth the flaming, too?

[KiLLeR2001]

Hey look, finally an affordable coilover option for PoopaScoopa. Now he won't have to resort to stealing from others. Thanks Race Land!

[SupaDoopa]

Shit. I better sell my brand new PBM's and get these. I mean, I could spray paint them and sell them as any brand I want!

Good idea, KiLLeR!

Wanna buy a pair of brand new Fortune's? :naughty:

[codyace]

He never said he prefered them he just said he liked them. :picardfp:

I enjoy eating steak I get from the local butcher, but also like the cheap shit I get at BJ's in a 6 pack. Same diff.

[iRONDONkey]

I'm going to just fit magnetic suspension with active stability control in my s13 so I can say every coilover you have ever used is crap.

[ixfxi]

i dont understand why everyone is hating on the op? alls he was doing is posting a review he never said there amazing or better then any other coil over? although i have owned zeal function d coilovers hks hypermaxx 2 s god speed projects and d2 race 2s and i personally like the race lands. they ride pretty good get crazy low and damper pretty good aswell :) cant beat 520 shipped.. and are far better then godspeed projects.

you're 19

your opinion means nothing to me. not trying to be a dick, but listening to you talk about suspension is like listening to you talk about sex.

straight outta highschool, get the fuck outta here with that teen shit.

[immasonlowery]

you're 19

your opinion means nothing to me. not trying to be a dick, but listening to you talk about suspension is like listening to you talk about sex.

straight outta highschool, get the fuck outta here with that teen shit.

please explain what i said that qualifies as " that teen shit " lmfao

[zeebrah]

520 for racelands?!?! Wtf happened. I remember back when I got a new pair for a bmw for $150.
They were on that car for several years and mihht even still be. ...So real long term review.....PROS: they laid frame for $150 and didnt break. CONS: everything else. They ride like shit. One day they were stiff and you needed a back massage after just driving home from work. Next day they would ride so soft it felt like a blown out 70s sration wagon. Shit kept you on your toes! Oh..and basically white knuckled it anytime was going over 80 in fear they would implode with that $150 price tag.
So IF they were still $150 and your sole intention was going unnecessarily low and taking turns about about half speed they were a good deal and worked. (Tho at that point id say just cut your springs in half or take them out...itd probably ride about the same)....
But at $520 youd have to be retarded.
Tho they do give a good story to tell...

[SupaDoopa]

But at $520 youd have to be retarded.
Tho they do give a good story to tell...

A good story how you just blew $520 on shit.

If you want to buy shitty coils, I'll sell you a set of blown stock struts with eBay Civic springs and collars. They'll probably ride better.

[zeebrah]

Yes ....yes that was thw moral of the story

[Thedriftbadger]

Update #nofuckinidea
Almost 3k on them now. I drove down to the keys last week, little less that 4 hour drive. Lots of bridges and fucked up roads. They rode pretty damn well. Never bottomed out or anything and it was reasonably comfortable. Shit my brother fell asleep half way there so that kinda says something lol.
I'm actually starting to really like these. I'm sure most of you think i'm an idiot but these do ride and handle wayy fucking better than i expected.
Whatever you want to think about them i really don't care. All i'm saying is i'm happy with my purchase and i wouldn't hessitate to suggest these to someone with a small budget. If you could find more expensive coils used and rebuild them it would obviously be a better option, but if you're set on new or really can't spend more than $500 then these are for you. I'll also say that when i get the money i will upgrade simply for the peace of mind, but i've yet to really push these so i don't know what they can handle yet

[Corbic]

Omg I'm totally gonna have to scrap up $45 and buy a set! Thank you for sharing with us that in Florida, you managed to drive on them for 4 hours and not suffer any long term liver damage or kidney failure.

[Thedriftbadger]

I'm trying to do an honest review on these. There's no reason to treat me like some dickweed who just came on here like "zomg raceland owns all!!!11!" I never said they were better than anything else. If they rode like shit i would fucking say they rode like shit, i've got nothing to prove by lying.

[Xplat]

This review brought to you by raceland. Honestly, who would weather the shitstorm in this thread other than a raceland marketer.

[Xplat]

A good story how you just blew $520 on shit.


I'm pretty sure he said he bought a pair for $150.

Does $150 somehow equate $520 in your mind just because both prices share the number five?

[ghoti]

You should post up some videos of pictures of this after a certain amount of time driving on them. You would've gotten less flaming responses.

Then again you posted this on Zilvia. This thread would've received a lot better responses on CR, they love Racelands and Megan EZstreets over there.

[Rich260z]

:picardfp: It says in the first paragraph he paid $520 shipped for them

[Corbic]

I'm trying to do an honest review on these. There's no reason to treat me like some dickweed who just came on here like "zomg raceland owns all!!!11!" I never said they were better than anything else. If they rode like shit i would fucking say they rode like shit, i've got nothing to prove by lying.

As stated a thousand times, you have no experience to review coilovers. Thats like me saying "hey, read my review of vacationing in Indonesia... although I've never been there".


Saying they are better then "blown stock shocks" is not saying anything. Thats like me saying "my Geo Metro is faster then a Corvette... with a blown block".

Driving four hours and saying you didn't lose a kidney is meaningless. You also make a statement about Florida's roads... have you anything to compare them against? Have you ever even left the state of Florida? When people bitch about the roads in Florida, they are talking about the drivers, not the asphalt. Come to Chicago, where union corruption insures the roads are never finished being fixed from the annual rapage known as winter. Or go to Michigan, where the state is so poor that thousands of miles of roadway are being left to return to dirt roads.

I'm sure you survived many a 4 hour trip with your "blown" suspension.

Your $550 could have easily got you a set of Koni or KYB shocks/dampers and a set of quality lowering springs.

Then you would have had a setup that would have actually improved the cars original handling capabilities while also being a quality part that can be relied on to last for years to come.

[Corbic]

http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p547/Thatoneaudiguy/IMG_20130619_180136.jpg

For as low as you are - KYB + Eibach

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2486/2641/31213820001_large.jpg


Another car on "tein" lowering springs.

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f200/94sleeper/loweringsprings002.jpg

[ixfxi]

damn...... first time we agree



florida roads are like glass.

[Thedriftbadger]

I never said the roads are bad, but I drive through a few areas every day that are pretty ruff cause i work in an industrial area.
Guys, this is my first 240, not my first car, not my first modified suspension either. You're right in saying i can't compare it to other coilovers on the s13 though.
You can show me all the things i could have bought, but i already have these so that doesn't change anything.
I've driven from fl to ny and it all seemd pretty equal to me, but that was mostly highway. My whole family lives in ny and they have smoother roads than here.
I expected to get a lot of flaming on this, so i don't really mind. Im happy with the coilovers so far. Hopefully people reading this can look past all the comments about how bad they are from people who don't even own them.
My offer still stands. If you see me around i'll let you drive the car and you can't tell me what you think and compare them to what you've driven.

[immasonlowery]

I never said the roads are bad, but I drive through a few areas every day that are pretty ruff cause i work in an industrial area.
Guys, this is my first 240, not my first car, not my first modified suspension either. You're right in saying i can't compare it to other coilovers on the s13 though.
You can show me all the things i could have bought, but i already have these so that doesn't change anything.
I've driven from fl to ny and it all seemd pretty equal to me, but that was mostly highway. My whole family lives in ny and they have smoother roads than here.
I expected to get a lot of flaming on this, so i don't really mind. Im happy with the coilovers so far. Hopefully people reading this can look past all the comments about how bad they are from people who don't even own them.
My offer still stands. If you see me around i'll let you drive the car and you can't tell me what you think and compare them to what you've driven.

thanks for the review!! unlike the douche bags on here i actually appreciate the effort !!

[Scope240sx]

You have 2 SE wheels painted blue, does that match those hawt coilovers?
Just get kyb agx. + gf210.
Clicking on this thread is like seeing a link for
"guy shoves his head into woman's vagina!"
You just have to click on it and read everything, no matter how bad it all is.

[Thedriftbadger]

Just get kyb agx. + gf210.

I
Already
Have
The
Coilovers

[Munki]

Thanks for the review! Im actually thinking of getting some of these for temperary use on my current project. Once my car is finished ill just slap on some better coils, so im guessing these cheap coils will last me till then!

Ignore all the d-bags, people just wanna hate and always will...

[Corbic]

Thanks for the review! Im actually thinking of getting some of these for temperary use on my current project. Once my car is finished ill just slap on some better coils, so im guessing these cheap coils will last me till then!

Ignore all the d-bags, people just wanna hate and always will...

Why the fuck waste your money then?


Or is it a ".... one day I may finish my car, assuming I don't wreck it, trade it, loose interest, buy a house, knock a girl up.... then I'll have this crazy baller 240 with like a twin turbo skyline motor and like deep dish wheels....and awesome coilovers"
???

As said 1, 000 times. Springs + premium shocks.

Is it really about just being able to tell your friends "yo bro I got coilovers!" ??

Why the adversion to "doing it right"?

[bc.]

I'm trying to do an honest review on these. There's no reason to treat me like some dickweed who just came on here like "zomg raceland owns all!!!11!" I never said they were better than anything else. If they rode like shit i would fucking say they rode like shit, i've got nothing to prove by lying.

As stated a thousand times, you have no experience to review coilovers. Thats like me saying "hey, read my review of vacationing in Indonesia... although I've never been there".
More like reviewing a movie you just saw, but having it be the first and only movie you ever saw.

Anyway, he is actually correct. for you to properly review something, you have to have experience with more than just one or two other options. The only thing this review thread is good for is to tell us whether or not they fail prematurely.

Shit, I wouldn't even trust myself to review coilovers because I have only had one pair (the same pair) since 2009.

[Munki]

Why the fuck waste your money then?


Or is it a ".... one day I may finish my car, assuming I don't wreck it, trade it, loose interest, buy a house, knock a girl up.... then I'll have this crazy baller 240 with like a twin turbo skyline motor and like deep dish wheels....and awesome coilovers"
???

As said 1, 000 times. Springs + premium shocks.

Is it really about just being able to tell your friends "yo bro I got coilovers!" ??

Why the adversion to "doing it right"?

Well, maybe i want some cheap coils because my car will be in and out of the body shop. I gotta fit my wheels since im running a ridge kit that I will be making a tad wider and ect... I have no reason to slap on some super expensive coils and risk damaging them.... And I can also sell them and make most of my money back anyways...

I dont understand why you guys are knocking on him because the coils are cheap as fuck. Not everyone can or wants to spend 1000 bucks on some coils when they can spend half that on a cheaper brand. Not everyone is made of money like you.

The OP also stated that he HAS had experience with coils before. Its not that hard to tell how low quality your coils are...

[Bmxer300zx]

I never said the roads are bad, but I drive through a few areas every day that are pretty ruff cause i work in an industrial area.
Guys, this is my first 240, not my first car, not my first modified suspension either. You're right in saying i can't compare it to other coilovers on the s13 though.
You can show me all the things i could have bought, but i already have these so that doesn't change anything.
I've driven from fl to ny and it all seemd pretty equal to me, but that was mostly highway. My whole family lives in ny and they have smoother roads than here.
I expected to get a lot of flaming on this, so i don't really mind. Im happy with the coilovers so far. Hopefully people reading this can look past all the comments about how bad they are from people who don't even own them.
My offer still stands. If you see me around i'll let you drive the car and you can't tell me what you think and compare them to what you've driven.

Idk what part of N.Y you went to but anything by N.Y.C or nassua county L.I are horrible Even parts of Suffolk suck.
My buddy lives in Fort myers we went to the Formula D event in west palm just recently and drove his slammed miata there and let me tell you was like riding on glass the whole way. Even all over west palm where we stayed was nice. I love florida for the fact of the roads and non rotted cars
Far as your "review" goes is more of a outlook on how they work for you. There is alot of crying in here but thats accustom to buying cheap parts. I've seen builds of guys making 10 sec v8 swaps on $400 turbos and last more than a season. Does it make it right? That's the owners opinion.

[Munki]

There was a local here in texas that had the same thing happen but with stance coils... Ive also had one tien blow on me after only 1 year, and megans go to shit after 5 months.

Things like that happen with any brand. I bet that guy hit a curb or something...

[Corbic]

Things like that happen with any brand. I bet that guy hit a curb or something...

No they don't.

That is the result of shit casting. A brand using forged, milled or higher quality castings would not have the top plate bust in half.

[Munki]

No they don't.

That is the result of shit casting. A brand using forged, milled or higher quality castings would not have the top plate bust in half.

Failed tiens

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/spn72/P1020849.jpg

Failed JIC


http://www.ellisfamilyalbum.com/Car%20Stuff/My%20Subaru%20Impreza%20Project/Broken%20JIC%20Strut/slides/Broken%20JIC%20007.jpg
http://www.ellisfamilyalbum.com/Car%20Stuff/My%20Subaru%20Impreza%20Project/Broken%20JIC%20Strut/slides/Broken%20JIC%20001.jpg

D2 coils
http://photos.motoiq.com/photos/644445741_oQSsL-M.jpg

It doesnt matter what brand you buy, cheap or expensive, they all break just as easy... So its pretty pointless to talk shit about someone writing a review on "cheap" coilovers.

[Corbic]

And yet none of those had the top hat pop like a potato chip...

Those actually look lije crashes and not "failures" by the way.

[Munki]

And yet none of those had the top hat pop like a potato chip...

Those actually look lije crashes and not "failures" by the way.

It doesn’t matter... Im sure the raceland coil posted above was in an accident or jumped a curb or pothole.

Oh and raceland coils have a 2-year warranty. So if they fuck up send them back....

[Corbic]

It doesn’t matter... Im sure the raceland coil posted above was in an accident or jumped a curb or pothole.

Oh and raceland coils have a 2-year warranty. So if they fuck up send them back....

Oh in that case! Fuck yeah! Now I can roll on garbage coilovers and when they break spend money shipping them back!

In the mean time I can chill in my mommie's basement cause my whip ain't got no socks to roll!


Once again.

Why
Are
You
Apposed
To
Doing
It
Right?

It costs less and works better.

[bc.]

It doesn’t matter... Im sure the raceland coil posted above was in an accident or jumped a curb or pothole.

Oh and raceland coils have a 2-year warranty. So if they fuck up send them back....

The pictures are hearsay, the way to tell how they broke would be to get a very close up picture and see if it was a fatigue issue as a result or regular driving (look for crack propagation).

fyi, if you die in an accident because your suspension broke, the warranty would be useless. Or just get hurt, not really worth the $500.

[Munki]

All im trying to say is its pointless to talk shit to this guy because the coils are super cheap. As I mentioned before, some people can barely afford to spend 500 bucks on coils let alone 1000+.

If you jump a curb or run over shit your coils most likely will break/blow/fail no matter what brand they are or how much they cost you. Its pointless to sit here and nit pick over stuff like because one person broke their shit.

The OP wanted to write his review on these coils and let everyone know how the quality is and whatnot. Let him do that. I can sit here all day and show you guys how named brand coils also fail. And if you guys don’t like cheap shit just move along and let others who want/have to buy this "shit" use this review. No need to lecture everyone over cheap stuff VS name brand shit...

Oh in that case! Fuck yeah! Now I can roll on garbage coilovers and when they break spend money shipping them back!

In the mean time I can chill in my mommie's basement cause my whip ain't got no socks to roll!


Once again.

Why
Are
You
Apposed
To
Doing
It
Right?

It costs less and works better.

ಠ_ಠ

[Scope240sx]

this is more like a diary bro,
no review, no hard driving. might as well get some race land coilovers on my moms sante fe and daily drive on them. Than I will write a shit review on my experiences like how I wacked off my brother while he was sleeping....because I can't drive for shit so I wont write a review about the actual purpose of this product, rather a cruise around town.

daily driving review, for coilovers? r-really bruh?
Here's my review: If suspension is that questionable where you have to say its really not that bad to drive AROUND TOWN in, you & your car equally suck massive corn hole.
I read the entire thread, and learned absolutely nothing. I actually got more dumb. See I cant even write correct grammar anymore.
& I dont even like to troll... ok yes I do.

[Rich260z]

I believe corbic is just warning people at this point, as the op already has the racelands and can't go back in time like superman.

This thread inspires me to get some emusa's and do a review thread

[Munki]

this is more like a diary bro,
no review, no hard driving. might as well get some race land coilovers on my moms sante fe and daily drive on them. Than I will write a shit review on my experiences like how I wacked off my brother while he was sleeping....because I can't drive for shit so I wont write a review about the actual purpose of this product, rather a cruise around town.

daily driving review, for coilovers? r-really bruh?
Here's my review: If suspension is that questionable where you have to say its really not that bad to drive AROUND TOWN in, you & your car equally suck massive corn hole.
I read the entire thread, and learned absolutely nothing. I actually got more dumb. See I cant even write correct grammar anymore.
& I dont even like to troll... ok yes I do.

Not everyone is a hardcore tokyo drifter like you...

[Corbic]

Not everyone is a hardcore tokyo drifter like you...

Then why the fuck are you buying coilovers?

[Munki]

Then why the fuck are you buying coilovers?

So I have to be a tokyo drifter to buy coilovers?

[SuperBlackS14]

Well, the point of coilovers, is performance driving... People do daily drive them, but for the most part, they're made for performance reasons... That doesn't stop people from deciding they just want to slam their cars, and daily it.

The logic is why waste money on coilovers when stock suspension will do what you need it to WITHOUT scraping or worrying about questionable quality... And hey, if you wanted to go low, why not try lowering springs so you aren't scraping over everything? Oh, that's not hardcore enough? Well go ahead and buy your cheap coilovers and complain about the quality to everyone, or complain how everyone tells you that you bought shit now that you're aware of it and can't change your mind.

Sorry, I digress. The point is, coilovers, while easy to obtain and install, are not meant for daily drivers, and if daily-ing is all you're doing, you probably shouldn't review that aspect, as most people would describe the ride on the street as "acceptable" unless they're shit anyways.

Not that I'm slamming the OP for doing a review, or people that buy performance parts to hella-stance their whips, or whatever.

[Scope240sx]

Tokyo drifter??
damn bro it says your 33 not 12.. thanks for defending shitty coilovers with ride height adjust-ability but no dampening adjustment.. you are the kind of "CAR GUYS" that paint over rust... really defend coils that are the SAME PRICE for every "APPLICATION"
I'm not even on coil overs man, running KYB AGX w/ gf210 springs w/ fully adjustable arms & links, car handles fantastic. never would ever ever forever never run cheap coil overs. no matter if its my first time around the block, or my tenth.
thats because I was taught by guys who win, not DUMP IT BRO.

[Corbic]

So I have to be a tokyo drifter to buy coilovers?

For the fouth time... why are you buying them in the firsr place?


Quality Aftermarket Shocks are cheaper.

[Munki]

For the fouth time... why are you buying them in the firsr place?


Quality Aftermarket Shocks are cheaper.
I mentioned why I needed cheap coils a few pages ago......

[Thedriftbadger]

My buddy lives in Fort myers we went to the Formula D event in west palm just recently and drove his slammed miata there and let me tell you was like riding on glass the whole way. Even all over west palm where we stayed was nice. I love florida for the fact of the roads and non rotted cars .
I was there too. They needed more seating for sure. We had to stand the whole damn time.
I think you're not understanding, i didn't say all florida roads are bad, i said the roads i drive on are bad. I have to go through an industial area for my job and it's beat to hell and full of potholes, even a truck you can tell how shitty it is.

Anyway, I mostly wanted to cover how long these lasted, but i'm doing my best to review them all around. I just picked up a stack of spare drift tires and wheels, getting the diff welded this weekend, then i can see how they handle drifting and whether they'll break in to 867MILLION pieces and turn my car into a spinning box of death and kill every man woman and child within a ten mile radius!!!

I hope you're enjoying my "diary" lol. It's entertaining to say the least.

[Scope240sx]

I actually am enjoying your diary man, I already said you can't NOT click and read everything!!
Why are you going to weld your diff? Why would you want to always have your rear end locked?? You retain more traction even with an open diff, and YES, you can drift an open diff all day.
Just buy a 1-way differential; you will enjoy that. What will a welded diff teach you? If you can do it on an OPEN you can do it on ANYTHING!

Please dont weld your diff. Its bad enough you have those damn coil overs & blue SE wheels... on a CRIMSON RED 240!!!! :(
10 years ago DECENT coilovers were $2,000..............
& who the FUCK would weld a diff when you can get a functioning viscous diff......
OPEN>WELDED
^ thats just stupid anyway, & your not (that) dumb.

[Thedriftbadger]

Why are you going to weld your diff? Why would you want to always have your rear end locked?? You retain more traction even with an open diff
That's the whole reason to weld a diff, so you can break traction and drift. Drifting an open diff sucks ass

[fatduece]

Oh Jesus Florida... WTF is in the water down there? Extra fluoride, its crazy.

I wacked off my brother while he was sleeping :rofl:


& who the FUCK would weld a diff when you can get a functioning viscous diff......
OPEN>WELDED All of them brothas on the grind be welding diffs. Yo! Just imagine ghetten sideways in a viscous and alll da sudden dat worn out sh8t unlocks and dan you underqueer into a curb!! Open diff... a driftrers worst eneyamy.












P.S. Sorry I cant help but troll in these kind of threads.

[Bmxer300zx]

I was there too. They needed more seating for sure. We had to stand the whole damn time.
I think you're not understanding, i didn't say all florida roads are bad, i said the roads i drive on are bad. I have to go through an industial area for my job and it's beat to hell and full of potholes, even a truck you can tell how shitty it is.

Anyway, I mostly wanted to cover how long these lasted, but i'm doing my best to review them all around. I just picked up a stack of spare drift tires and wheels, getting the diff welded this weekend, then i can see how they handle drifting and whether they'll break in to 867MILLION pieces and turn my car into a spinning box of death and kill every man woman and child within a ten mile radius!!!

I hope you're enjoying my "diary" lol. It's entertaining to say the least.


Yes the seating was terrible, me and a buddy got seats at 2pm and sat till it started. Was good though when the Godspeed project car crashed and burst into flames we where so close we could feel "The Heat" lmao.
As far as the "Diary" lmao everyone has their own opinions on things i personally didn't enjoy them in my buddies car compared to even Tein, Megan or CX coils I've had/been in. If it works for you and nothing bad happens that's good. I'm getting more enjoyment outa everyone arguing in here it's great and I'm glad your still hanging with it haha.

[ComicArtist]

I had Raceland's on my NA Miata for a year and a half.

I daily drove the car and tracked it.

Drove to college classes 20 minutes a day, as well as work and around town.

Made a drift event about every 2 months during that period, as well as many street sessions.

They blew after 6 months after being at max low with 15x8"s, ride after that was shitty as fuck.

Bottom line is, you get what you pay for. I paid like $300 for them brand new, expected shitty quality and low ride height, and got exactly what I expected.

You can't expect to pay that kind of money for something and expect stellar quality. It's just stupid. I didn't bitch about how my $300 coils blew and rode like shit after 6 months because that's what $300 gets you. If I expected quality I would've bought Stance.

[Scope240sx]

no dude, just no.
you have no idea what you are doing, or talking about.
stop watching drift bible, you can do it with an open.

[SuperBlackS14]

no dude, just no.
you have no idea what you are doing, or talking about.
stop watching drift bible, you can do it with an open.

I'm going to step outside my "no feeding trolls rule" and say you can, but why would you want to? Most people here are either rich enough to afford a Clutch-Pack, or way too impatient/broke to save for one. Or, just too broke to replace the clutches all the time. Welded is cheap and allows you to drift, which is what people want.

Literally no one who's ever welded a diff gives a fuck about traction. And as far as a viscous goes, quieter on the streets, not completely terrible, not good for drifting, because they are old, beat and overheat (let go). So, I have no idea what you're talking about... It's much easier to break traction with a welded.

[Thedriftbadger]

Why would i pay for an lsd when i can just weld it... I have more important things to spend money on, hence the racelands.

[bc.]

This thread sucks. I am not going into a discussion of VLSD vs welded in here...

OP: just let us know if/when your shit breaks.

/end thread

[Thedriftbadger]

This thread sucks. I am not going into a discussion of VLSD vs welded in here...

OP: just let us know if/when your shit breaks.

/end thread

I'm not stupid. Just cause i bought low priced coilovers doesn't mean i don't know what i'm doing. I know an lsd would be better for street driving, but i'm not buying one right now. I'm welding the diff for the mean time until i eventually get an lsd. I didn't want a discussion on it so please dont start one.

[Tulok]

drift pics or ban

[Bmxer300zx]

Drifting on a OPEN diff?
Really?
REALLY?
REEEAAALLLYYYY?
HAHHAHA SHUT UP MEG! Go home you're drunk.
.
Nothing like a sweet old peglegging time hahahha

[Thedriftbadger]

drift pics or ban

They're coming

[Rich260z]

still no drift pics

[Bmxer300zx]

He made a video
Nissan 240sx Drift Fail - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCdXqOCXtOU)

[Thedriftbadger]

still no drift pics

I'm sorry, I've been doing this thing called working. When i have time to play around and take pretty pictures for you i'll let you know.

[Thedriftbadger]

Well i said this would be a long term review. Thanks for sticking around for the last 6 years, i forgot about this. I've long moved on from this whole jdm boy scene but I'll summarize this for anyone looking to buy these. I got a free set of seized superdrifts a few months after install and put the springs on the racelands since they were a bit soft for my taste. Drove on them for about 50k miles and sold the car about two years ago. Never bounced, never leaked, never squeaked, never seized. Last i heard from the kid who bought it they were still fine. I put a set on my e46 daily driver around 2016, sold that last year to a friend to buy a new car and they're still doing great with about 40k on them. Stock springs are perfect for street use but you'll want something stiffer for track duty. Overall i have not one single bad thing to say about these and i wouldn't hesitate to buy them again.
Pic of them 1 inch above max low.
https://i.ibb.co/1Kqwrdq/20190530-222952.png

[izzy-]

Well i said this would be a long term review. Thanks for sticking around for the last 6 years, i forgot about this. I've long moved on from this whole jdm boy scene but I'll summarize this for anyone looking to buy these. I got a free set of seized superdrifts a few months after install and put the springs on the racelands since they were a bit soft for my taste. Drove on them for about 50k miles and sold the car about two years ago. Never bounced, never leaked, never squeaked, never seized. Last i heard from the kid who bought it they were still fine. I put a set on my e46 daily driver around 2016, sold that last year to a friend to buy a new car and they're still doing great with about 40k on them. Stock springs are perfect for street use but you'll want something stiffer for track duty. Overall i have not one single bad thing to say about these and i wouldn't hesitate to buy them again.
Pic of them 1 inch above max low.
https://i.ibb.co/1Kqwrdq/20190530-222952.png
Of course the guy that vouches for raceland had a stock hatch on trailer wheels :keke::keke:

[SupaDoopa]

Don't come back here looking for justification of your shitty financial decision on buying garbage coils. I assure you - no one here cared to see an update on this.

/modsdeletethisthread

[jumpman2334]

Why would i pay for an lsd when i can just weld it... I have more important things to spend money on, hence the racelands.

this is by far and away the most 'broke ass kid with a 240' statement ive ever read.

thank you for making my monday comical thus far.

[ZenkiKid]

Are these exactly the same design and megan ones?

I mean if they are at least you have a solid candidate for a proper rebuild. Shrugs.

[SupaDoopa]

Broadway mirror > adjustable suspension.

At least you can look swag when your shit box rust bucket disintegrates after you smash into a wall. I see you.

[Corbic]

Oh in that case! Fuck yeah! Now I can roll on garbage coilovers and when they break spend money shipping them back!

In the mean time I can chill in my mommie's basement cause my whip ain't got no socks to roll!


Once again.

Why
Are
You
Apposed
To
Doing
It
Right?

It costs less and works better.Wow, 8 years ago when I dropped these words of wisdom.



Shit still holds up.

[Corbic]

Are these exactly the same design and megan ones?

I mean if they are at least you have a solid candidate for a proper rebuild. Shrugs.No they are not.

They are non-adjustable and do not come with camber plates.

Waste of money. Buy actual shocks and lowering springs for less if you can't spring from a decent coilover option.

[SupaDoopa]

You could given the kid a set of non-garbage coils and he probably would have traded it for Racelands and *$XXX worth of vape juice, a Fortnite gift card, a signed picture of John Cena and a pogo stick with a pink spring.

*$XXX being whatever the cost difference is. I figured that needed to be clarified because he'll probably ask where you get $X bills.