How fast do you improve?

[89hatchman]

So I've driven in 3 events so far, 2 with my current car. Its an SR20 in an 89 hatch, coilovers, and full suspension arm set up. How long until I get decent?

It seems that I've only learned a little bit from my 1st event to this past event in this car.

At the competition the judge commented "looks like he's just driving the track" since I wasn't getting sideways very well. But I was clutch kicking and e-braking as much as I could.

[ktm47]

http://zilvia.net/f/motorsports-skilled-driving/505913-how-difficult-get-good-drifting.html

[89hatchman]

http://zilvia.net/f/motorsports-skilled-driving/505913-how-difficult-get-good-drifting.html

ya, I asked that one. But that was before I had drifted at all. Now I've driven in 2 events in my current set up and I've improved from before I drove but I'm still a pretty poor driver. I can't hold drifts or link drifts together. I'm wondering if this is abnormal and if most people improve by leaps and bounds or just minor things here and there.

[jdhariwal]

Hhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

In before the lock

[feito]

nvmd man, wait for it, wait for it....

[s13livin]

these threads make me feel sick

[s13livin]

Ma3BXYeAlUg

[StreetSweep]

^^ lmfao!!! Best deofting video ever!!! He got SO good his first time around

[StreetSweep]

Drifting*
He's definitely a natural

[206sx]

Slap on an "illest" sticker for more drifto

[2.5T_/<ouki]

Ma3BXYeAlUg


LOLOLOLOLOLOOLOL

:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

[cbcm2435]

So I've driven in 3 events so far, 2 with my current car. Its an SR20 in an 89 hatch, coilovers, and full suspension arm set up. How long until I get decent?

It seems that I've only learned a little bit from my 1st event to this past event in this car.

At the competition the judge commented "looks like he's just driving the track" since I wasn't getting sideways very well. But I was clutch kicking and e-braking as much as I could.

if after 3 events you cant drift you might as well just give up and sell your car

[Scope240sx]

just go out and practice man!!
aint nothing to it but to do it

[twinspool]

Lol man it took me three events to be able to get through whole course sideways, just have to haul ass and feel it. It should be super easy to slide with that sr, I had basically stock sohc in my fast back with all suspension

[drod327]

why do people think they wont get flamed for stuff like this.. hahaha
:picardfp:

[racepar1]

So I've driven in 3 events so far, 2 with my current car. Its an SR20 in an 89 hatch, coilovers, and full suspension arm set up. How long until I get decent?

It seems that I've only learned a little bit from my 1st event to this past event in this car.

At the competition the judge commented "looks like he's just driving the track" since I wasn't getting sideways very well. But I was clutch kicking and e-braking as much as I could.

So you've gone to 3 events, with NO prior driving experience AT ALL and you expect to be pro already. Do you even know how to heel-toe downshift? Do you know anything about an actual racing line? If you're just coming in straight blind with no driving skills it's going to take a while, like YEARS. This is why I always STRESS learning how to actually drive before you just jump right into drifting. Why not go to some regular non-drift track events first. Spend some time with an instructor in the car. Learn the basics of high performance driving before you jump into drifting. If you have no basic skillset to draw from it's going to be a long road. It sounds like you expect to just jump right in and get the hang of it straight away. It doesn't work like that...

http://zilvia.net/f/motorsports-skilled-driving/505913-how-difficult-get-good-drifting.html

I guess once just wasn't enough...

:axe:

[MrChow]

Nothing new... You should hear the crap I get from some of my students...

[ocn]

HOW is this still open? :picardfp:

[InsTanCeZ]

Why would you even enter a competition if you've never drifted before? lol and do you even have an LSD? That's pretty essential for drifting.

[Perfect Balance]

Go faster. If you can't drift with an SR20 you're doing it wrong. I wasn't able to link the entire course, but I was able to drift every corner successfully at my first event, because I learned about drifting and understood it and just went out and applied what I knew and it fit like a glove.

People who think you just need "seat time" are the people who have been drifting for 4 years and still only get "ok" at it. Or they reach a certain point and simply don't get any better because they learned bad technique and developed bad habits from day 1, and have only become good at drifting the wrong way. Like when you see a dude with a fully built drift car spinning out run after run and then find out he drifts with one hand on the steering wheel, and now he can't become any better because he's been doing it that way for too long to change without relearning everything....

Learn how drifting works, the physics behind it and how it's done, and then go apply it. You'll find that everything just clicks and you'll progress quickly.

[89hatchman]

Why would you even enter a competition if you've never drifted before? lol and do you even have an LSD? That's pretty essential for drifting.

Its a welded diff. I only "entered" the competition because these past two events were competitions. I entered mainly for the practice time before and after those competitions. My options were enter the competition for the practice, or sit on the side lines for 3 months waiting for the next practice day.

Go faster. If you can't drift with an SR20 you're doing it wrong. I wasn't able to link the entire course, but I was able to drift every corner successfully at my first event, because I learned about drifting and understood it and just went out and applied what I knew and it fit like a glove.

People who think you just need "seat time" are the people who have been drifting for 4 years and still only get "ok" at it. Or they reach a certain point and simply don't get any better because they learned bad technique and developed bad habits from day 1, and have only become good at drifting the wrong way. Like when you see a dude with a fully built drift car spinning out run after run and then find out he drifts with one hand on the steering wheel, and now he can't become any better because he's been doing it that way for too long to change without relearning everything....

Learn how drifting works, the physics behind it and how it's done, and then go apply it. You'll find that everything just clicks and you'll progress quickly.


Well, thats another problem I have. My sr20 may be a shithole, some dude that rode with me was surprised I had my foot to the floor. I wouldn't be surprised if I wasn't getting full power out of it.

[Bambi]

Props to OP for having the balls to make these threads and then actually do shit like enter a contest for practice time and despite not knowing how to drift. I couldn't embarrass myself like that.

At least OP is committed. Just a little lost and misunderstanding of drifting and driving in general it seems.

[MidwestMyriad]

You should be improving at a rate of 3.7 per event.

[vehicle336]

Drifting, like all motorsports, is a form of advanced car control. Driving well is driving with absolute control and understanding of all facets of how a car handles. Want to be good a drifting? Get better at car control and start understanding all facets of what it means to drive competitively. There's a reason why guys like Mike Essa and Dai and McQuarrie and several other good drivers in FD are good. They all have backgrounds in motorsports. Fuck, next event will see the intro of a fucking Indy car driver.

Stop being a bitch about your slow learning pace and start driving at any and all types of events. AutoX is cheap, and within 3 events you'll officially be a better driver than an old Asian lady, which is where 99.9% of the general populace actually is. Spend a day out at a real track not drifting, look up NASA and SCCA and go do something that isn't just you failing at drift. Get your goddamn driving basics up to par first before wasting time drifting. If you can't understand baasic weight transferring techniques why bother drifting?

[240boi115]

everyone above me has a point

20 bucks says OP that your turbo is blown or seized! when mine did it felt like i was running on 23hp hahaha

seriously though nothing amazing happens overnight man... the more events you go to and the more practice you put in the better you will become.. at that event did you at all ask people around what techniques they use? learn heel toe downshifting, and shift lock maneuvers to improve your driving...in almost every place i do coarse driving at my first round/ lap is a soft study lap. to get a feel for the coarse and decide which driving lines will work for me best.

[Jesus_lopez405]

No such thing as dumb questions, just dumb threads.

[dluevanos01]

Ma3BXYeAlUg

Anyone notice the tow hook on the car? ahaha

[anti tyler]

Ma3BXYeAlUg



I'm sorry for adding to the non sense but this is just hilarious.

you know your life sucks when you can't even make a turn like that, let alone you trash your wheel that bad, and try to drive off!!

:ddog:

[Matej]

HOW is this still open? :picardfp:
Open differential?

[silva.240]

my first question to 89hatchman is.......? how old are you, how long have you been legally allowed to drive? and have somebody who knows "mechanics" check out your car. i'm assuming you obviously didn't build the car nor have been driving much. I suggest go find a local go-karting ring and spend time there drifting/ driving.
just me .02 cents

[240boi115]

my first question to 89hatchman is.......? how old are you, how long have you been legally allowed to drive? and have somebody who knows "mechanics" check out your car. i'm assuming you obviously didn't build the car nor have been driving much. I suggest go find a local go-karting ring and spend time there drifting/ driving.
just me .02 cents

sounds weird but whos down for some k1 racing????:D 89hatchman i challenge you!

[h1tman26]

you aint bout this life...

[Dagostino480]

you really wanna know how to drift ey? or drive?

I started when i was 12 years old now im turning 21 soon. I learn basic driving skills, counter steering, when to throttle in and out of a turn, and basic apex stuff from one simple shit that a good 90% of kids un knowingly learned from.


NEED FOR SPEED ON THE PLAYSTATION 2 (STEERING WHEEL CONTROLER OR REGULAR)

HAHA and people will agree with me cause that shit is a simulator


next time you want to drift go all the way on the outside on the turn and go full lock in the way you turn the car the smash that gas pedal. stay in second and you will spin out. learn how to spin out and you will learn how to control after that.

[Danger_Dorn]

Step 1: Watch Drift Bible many times

Step 2: Learn to drift on Forza 4 lol. Sounds stupid but the physics are pretty realistic. Use a stock tu-fo-tay

Step 3: Check over your real life (about to be destroyed) drift car for saftey and make sure it wont fall apart of blow up.

Step 4: Get alot of tires

Step 5: Find a big empty space and grow balls.

Repeat :wackit:

[koukistylejdm]

i sold one of my silvias to a kid and hes drifting good after something like 10 days.... he just has that 'driver's attitude' i think!

an other freind of mine bought a 180sx last summer and still bad after a whole year of trying...

[zombiewolf513]

Props to OP for having the balls to make these threads and then actually do shit like enter a contest for practice time and despite not knowing how to drift. I couldn't embarrass myself like that.

At least OP is committed. Just a little lost and misunderstanding of drifting and driving in general it seems.

Right on.

OP: practice initiating drift donuts around cones. Dont just floor the gas and turn the wheel. Ask someone thats half decent at your next event to give you some pointers, maybe do a ride along with you if theyre willing.

Watch all 4 parts over and over, especially what he does in the ae86 im somewhat decent but i still havent tried anything but clutch kicks, ebrakes, and feints (or combos of those 3), so dont get intimidated by the more advanced techniques (hes a pro!) and start from step one and practice practice practice:
Drift Bible part 1/4 - YouTube (http://youtu.be/8_Nr8dXctwE)

Also watch the ken nomura parts towards the bottom and pretend like youre his student, he is a very good instructor. there was one where he taught an american girl model how to drift, but i cant find it, and i used that video as a basis to teach my little brother how to drift, he was doing figure 8s in his first 45 minutes so that one is a good video. The videos arent in english but you can clearly see what hes doing:

Girls in Drifting: Drifting 101 (http://girlsindrifting.blogspot.com/p/drifting-101.html?m=0)


All i did was basically donuts and figure 8s in the kiddie pool for my first couple of events while my friends decided to do trial by fire like you are, gotta start small! Good luck, and rephrase how youre asking about drift technique or youre gonna keep getting flamed

[DJ-of-E]

Try doing it without clutch kicking. Ruined transmissoins suck.

[Driftwire]

Your probably not getting enough speed and trying initiate way to late. If your having trouble getting sideways with a clutch kick than stop clutch kicking.. Try to get speed and shift weight with a feint.
Maybe you should get footage of you drifting and the announcer telling everyone that your just surveying the track heh.

[mantas]

I'm not an expert or really that good at drifting but i was horrible the first time at the track. Made a fool out of myself and went home. Then i played this Live For Speed game for a while just for shits and giggles. The next time it was time to drift, i was doing quite well and was surprised myself, it seemed like it was just coming to me naturally. I don't care to learn drifting but something as simple as a video game could be a good start to get the basics. No point in tearing up the car or tires when you don't know what you are doing - just my :2c: