WRX accident pic

[yenpit]

this was just north of us. this guy was well known as salesman (32yrs at same dealer!) at nearby Scoobie dealer. we heard he scared the crap out of some people on test drives. true idiot to take two teenagers out and end up like this. the article says "...he apparently exceeded the capabilities of the (WRX) car....". yea right , more like HIS OWN capabilities!!!! dumb ass. and yes, he was decapitated. last we heard the two kids survived but critical. dumb ass.
link here: http://www.b15sentra.net/vbb....d=15806 (http://www.b15sentra.net/vbb/showthread.php?threadid=15806)

[Zexel]

sad story.  it was kind of idiotic to do it on test drivers, risking other lives but your own.  he died doing what he loved.  that is very sad to hear.

<a href="http://www.b15sentra.net/vbb/showthread.php?threadid=15806" target='_blank'>http://www.b15sentra.net/vbb....d=15806</a> for the lazy bums once again <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>

[streetpower]

Hey I have an idea, when it comes to someone that has passed on why dont you leave your personal comments asside about how stupid you may think he is, show some respect for them...

Vent..it really just irritates me how today people have such little respect for the dead, if you notice on the otherboard everyone is talking about how sad it is that he died on the job, just give some respect and pass your personal shallow comments on later...

you can't tell people how to react to something like that, some of these guys see death everyday and when someone does/says something that you don't agree with that doesnt mean that you have to tell them how to act/respond. &nbsp;life is fragile and there's nothing any of us can do about it..... if he was an idiot or not its irrelevant he's dead.... but if some people wish to call him an idiot that's their choice, so if you feel like these guys aren't showing respect, thats tough, deal with it. &nbsp;no need to tell anyone how they should act.

Yeah but I'm sure we've all done some stupid driving that would have gotten us killed if the proper circusmstances surrounded us. &nbsp;Who knows this guy might have not been a stupider driver then any of us.

[drifterx]

it is sad but this guy was a true idiot.... he is a stupid 60 year old man who never grew up since he was 16

sorry but the guy thinks he can drive better than he actually could....
i bet he tried to show off and show how the WRX can drift and though it

[mistert]

this is what i've been talking about...I.E. why we have no EVO VII, or skyline. its not just the market (of course that plays a huge factor), but cars like these claim the lives of idiots who cannot drive properly. they're simply too fast for the average person to handle. this was also the problem with some of the original factory NSX's. controlling a car that fast, with a race tuned suspension, is just too much for some people.

you know if that truck hadn't been there he might have made it through ..... he just didnt anticipate the truck being there... you can never tell these things..... it was just his time to go.... what else could it be?

[yenpit]

streetpower, point well taken! dont get me wrong...i have respect where deserved, but this guy simply shouldve known better. the people on the other board dont know the inside scoop on this, we heard it all cuz its so close to us. my problem with this guy was how he could be so careless.....two teenagers, what was he thinking. peace. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

[dave2u]

mistert </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">they're simply too fast for the average person to handle.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

I want one :sad:
I must have one NOOOOOW!!!

Dave2u is the man i think he's the funniest m'fer on this site :biggrin: every single post from you is hilarious! no exceptions.. and your not VERY snooty lol j/k <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>

[streetpower]

I will agree the fact that he should have not been driving like that with customers or anyone else in the car, it just kinda hurts as cheesy as that sounds to hear about someone dying and people putting him down...but I understand all opinions I have plenty myslef <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> hopefully I didnt offend to many of ya <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>!

[HippoSleek]

I agree that it is both sad and stupid. &nbsp;Sad because someone had to die - but stupid because of HOW he died and what chances he took. &nbsp;In this case, I think stupid wins.

Too many people think of a car as a toy and don't imagine the consequences of a mistake. &nbsp;I regularly sit back and appreciate that my car is a 3000 lbs killing machine. &nbsp;It can take multiple lives very easily. &nbsp;That said, when I run the #### out of my car on a closed track I accept the risks involved. &nbsp;If I run the #### out of my car on the streets, neither my passengers nor the other drivers have accepted that risk. &nbsp;

To drift a car around an uphill corner, at speed, with passengers, on a public road is asinine. &nbsp;Period. &nbsp;You never know what's over the next crest or around the next bend - maybe nothing, maybe a deer, maybe a broken down car, maybe a leaf-vacuum truck, or maybe a car with kids or parents or YOUR parents. &nbsp;In any event, while I have respect for the dead, I think the best part of this story is that only the idoit driving died.

[AJ]

took the words right out of my mouth hippo, it's sad that he died, but i'm just so glad that no one else was hurt. &nbsp;He took a chance,... he got unlucky. &nbsp;If he was by himself in the middle of no where on an open windy road, i'd tell him to go for it. &nbsp;But i've had crazy drivers almost hit me, i had to nail my breaks for a truck that thought he could pass 4 cars on a winding road,, he barely got back over in time. &nbsp;Can we all try to learn something from his mistake? don't overdrive your car when other peoples lives are on the line as well.

[whateverjames]

i kind of think not only was the guy crazy for driving like that, but these cars do have limits. ever see the people in 4 wheel drive vehicles flyind down the highway in a snow storm? WRX handles nice i'm sure, but i'm sure it has it's limits

[HippoSleek]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from whateverjames on 1:15 pm on Nov. 29, 2001
ever see the people in 4 wheel drive vehicles flyind down the highway in a snow storm? WRX handles nice i'm sure, but i'm sure it has it's limits</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I saw a Jeep Cherokee come off a free way exit onto an overpass that was covered in ice and attempt to make a sharp right hand turn. &nbsp;AWD folks don't seem to realize that it will get you going, but won't let you stop or turn any better. &nbsp;BTW: the Cherokee slid past the turn and into a police cruiser that was sitting at the stop light of the street he tried to turn down. &nbsp;Oops.

[chickenmanq]

Personally, I think driving fast as shit on public roads is perfectly fine. &nbsp;As long as there are no cars. &nbsp;To hit a #$%ing leaf sucker or whatever, takes a lot of skill. &nbsp;He could have steered into the skid, and just threw the car in the ditch. &nbsp;

However, there's no excuse for driving like that with passengers in rear. &nbsp;He couldn't even hit the ebrake and spin the car around, cause it would have hurt if not killed the teenagers.

As for other drivers, I pay close attention. &nbsp;I assume all of them just got their license, and it pays. &nbsp;I'm almost always ready to throw it down a gear and look for a way out should someone come for me.

Unfortunately, some people just don't know what to do, or don't think they have other options. &nbsp;Like sliding towards someone on ice. &nbsp;Most people just hit their brakes and hope to stop. &nbsp;I have almost run into people due to icy conditions, but I steered off the road while I was slowing down. &nbsp;No problems. &nbsp;Car may get screwed up, but it's better than hitting someone else.

It depends on how well you know your car too. &nbsp;A lot of people can't fathom when I turn around in a confined space and drive over the curb so I don't have to make a million point turn in traffic. &nbsp;They're sitting in their SUV, afraid a pothole will knock it out of alignment.

Sorry, kinda venting. &nbsp;Had a guy today in a Suburban pull up behind me on an icy hill, with only 5 feet between me and him. &nbsp;Every time I went forward to get farther away from him, in case someone rear-ended him into me, he'd pull closer. &nbsp;I finally turned completely around, and gestured with my hands while yelling &quot;Full carlength, a$$hole!&quot; &nbsp;He didn't get it til I started thumping Beastie Boys, and throwing out the rear end while we were moving slowly in traffic.

[JeffNJ]

Now, perhaps my heart goes out to him a little more than some because I can relate to doing the same thing, but we also don't know a #### thing about what the passengers were thinking. When I'm alone, I try to never push my car past it's limits - but when I have passengers, I try to never it push it past their limits. For all we know, these passengers were excited at watching a skilled driver (we don't know) perform some kind of nice manuver in an impressive vehicle. &nbsp;And something - in this case, a truck - went wrong. &nbsp;But people, stuff happens. &nbsp;Things go wrong sometimes.

It happens on the road, and it happens off. It happens if you're driving safely and when you're not. Stuff happens, and people die. And it's not like this guy was driving sixty on the wrong side of a highway for kicks - THAT would be stupid. He was doing something that should have worked, but didn't. And it killed him. Quite frankly, any way you slice it . . . that sucks.

So, in closing, yeah, have some respect.

(Edited by JeffNJ at 10:35 am on Nov. 30, 2001)

[konkman]

This gives new mean to the, &quot;Death of a Salesman&quot;

yeah i have respect for the guy....but #### would you really trust a 61 year old driving a WRX like he was the rally king???...no #### NO...unless this guy is just gonna drive around the parking garage then MAYBE and thats a MAYBE only...

[IceTekGuy]

or unless he is JEFF GORDON (sorry, the only race car driver i know) then i dont trust anyone i dont know... this one kid i got a ride from, tried squeezing between a rig and a DOT truck while i knew he couldnt do it... so i looked back and noticed no one behind him....(this is on &nbsp;the highway... at 75mph) i grabbed the e-brake handle eased it to 40... the yanked it tight... came to a skidding stop, i jumped out an walked home, i walked for 4 hours, but hey... better get tired &nbsp;the gettin dead by a retard i didnt even know...
Moral of story = DONT TRUST ANYONE YOU DONT KNOW WHEN IT COMES TO DRIVING... MAKE EM TAKE IT EASY

[blissed]

this is truly a sad story... &nbsp;i bet it was a perfectly good subaru... &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('>