The Battery Location/Specification Thread

[headup240]

After searching for a battery thread I found a couple that included details on brands and specs as far as cranking amps but none on slim battery fitment up front, dimensions, and kit used whether custom or not.

This information would be helpful if included:

1. What kind of battery
2. Battery Specs
3. Intercooler piping fitment with compact batteries up front
4. What type of wire used for relocations
5. Misc details such as fuse kit, tie down, battery box, etc.

The purpose of this thread is to serve as source of info people can use to find the setup that suits their setup.

Post away.

[KendallH]

Autocraft Miata battery, 380CCA, Greddy intercooler piping fits around it no problem, and I used the stock harness. Starts the car fine.

[MrChow]

oh god... JK Should be a good thread if everyone keeps on topic.

First off I'm try to find the best of all worlds when I'm getting a battery. In no order.
Good cranking (something that'll won't have any problems cranking)
Weight (weight saving who doesn't like it?)
Sealed (fuck acid and that shit)
Deep cycling (so I can do w/e I want without needing to turn the car on)


XS Power | Real Power, Unreal Performance (http://4xspower.com/)
XS Power has of the best batteries for the price I've ever seen. Youtube them you'll seem them. The next best that have the same designs are Stingers which I currently own.

I personally have used Redtops and the small Yellowtop the Redtop isn't anything specially the Yellowtop has been with me for almost 5 years now and it works fine good draw never had it die out, but I always throw it on a charger to maintenance charge it every 6 months or so.

My current battery is Stinger SPV35
Cranking Amps: 525
Watts: 1050
CCA: 438A
Amp Hours: 35
Weight: 23.59 lbs

I love this thing soo much. With nice jumper cables I've jumped trucks without having to turn on the car. The only time I haven't been able to start my car is where I left my Fans on while I was working but even after 8 hours the fans were still moving but ya the battery was dying. Otherwise I've left my music on while working on the car or anything around it for hours around 5 hours max and it never had problems starting up.
IMO batteries are something good to invest in specially when normally batteries should go out after 3 years. Also they look a lot better and can lead to cleaner bay or install.

Also with every car I own or personal good friend I do BIG 3 upgrade to it if not just the 2 youtube or google it.

[Anhell_ito]

I went with the lawn & garden one at auto zone! so far so good lol
cant remember specs but believe it was about 325cca and 480ca for like 60 bucks

[slideways2004]

I went with the lawn & garden one at auto zone! so far so good lol
cant remember specs but believe it was about 325cca and 480ca for like 60 bucks

Yea, I have the same one on my 350Z and it works great. I like it way better than optima

[rwtf]

Anyone got pics?

I'm looking to relocated my battery to the back but need to find a holder or something.

[jr_ss]

If you want a good cheap battery, Deka AGM's is where it's at.

[headup240]

Here's my current setup. Can't remember where I got the hold down but I just drilled two holes for the threaded rods on the left side of the trunk. It's not going anywhere when I push it it shakes the whole car. Just a shitty Economy battery but I'm going with a compact battery for the front this week.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/StuartMace/image_zpscb335939.jpg

[dawagarage]

Here's my current setup. Can't remember where I got the hold down but I just drilled two holes for the threaded rods on the left side of the trunk. It's not going anywhere when I push it it shakes the whole car. Just a shitty Economy battery but I'm going with a compact battery for the front this week.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/StuartMace/image_zpscb335939.jpg

the problem with your set up is that although it is secured and kept away from the elements, it isnt contained. your battery isnt sealed, so it needs a vent to OUTSIDE atmosphere as well as nothing is there to catch battery acid.

battery hold downs can be had for $10 or less at any parts store.

example:
this is $4.99 from oreilly auto
http://images.oreillyauto.com/parts/img/medium/ss/rubberxbar.jpg
http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/SS01/01409/N0363.oap?ck=Search_N0363_1209103_3448&categoryRedirect=N0363&pt=N0363&ppt=C0005

[headup240]

Yea that's basically the same one I have here. I'm installing a compact battery in the original location on Friday but good points. Thanks.

[blessedhellrider]

welding lead , boat terminal ,plastic box ,blam-O

[towlie]

In my old car I ran an optima red top. Can't remember the cca's tho lol. I had an eBay deka (rebranded Braille) and after leaving me stranded I said never again. In my old car when it was wrecked the optima was thrown 15 feet (no tie down lol) it still works great!

I relocated it by using napa batt cable ($60) and doing work with the solder gun

Used the ac vent holes to run the line. Other wires are gauge connections. I trimmed and replaced the rubber gasket trim to accommodate the wires to prevent water and shit from getting in after I snapped the pic

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u51/qwerty_7878/251.jpg (http://s165.photobucket.com/user/qwerty_7878/media/251.jpg.html)

Placed it behind the pass seat, best weight distribution I figured.

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u51/qwerty_7878/247.jpg (http://s165.photobucket.com/user/qwerty_7878/media/247.jpg.html)

Bay still looking like shit

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u51/qwerty_7878/246.jpg (http://s165.photobucket.com/user/qwerty_7878/media/246.jpg.html)


Ill be doing the exact same setup in the next project only with a battery box and solid tie down.

[stacksondeck]

No battery tie down is a good way to die a shitty death in the event of a crash. A not so bad crash and a battery to the back of the head would be a lame way to go.

[Drift_FX]

http://sphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/481001_561081130593182_2110458388_n.jpg
here is where im putting mine.... fabrication back there is done nnow.... just didnt have a finished pic....

[mr.nismo.]

i have a Maserati battery in the back of the hatch. i never have issues lol

[jr_ss]

Optima redtops have 850CCAs if I remember correctly. If you can't start your car with that, you've got issues.

[shift_down]

http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g438/ramyswar/12-47F56272-1138268-960.jpg
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http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g438/ramyswar/utf-8BSU1BRzAyMzUuanBn.jpg

[racer98]

I went with the lawn & garden one at auto zone! so far so good lolhttp://hicag.mhcomputer.com/6.jpg
http://hicag.mhcomputer.com/7.jpg
http://hicag.mhcomputer.com/8.jpg
http://hicag.mhcomputer.com/9.jpg

Yes really how is that nigiran scam working out with the fake paypal payments ? hmm how does it work out to pay with fake lottos cheuqing papers ? must be awawsome - LOL. How can you sleep at night ?

[d_nice]

cool ideas for the battery..keep posting

[racepar1]

Pretty much everything posted in this thread is WRONG. First of all ONLY dry cell batteries can safely be mounted inside the cabin without a sealed battery box. Non-drycell batteries emit gasses as they charge/dis-charge. These gasses are not only potentially dangerous to your health, they are also potentially flammable. The Optimas are NOT dry cell, they are gel-cell. Those batteries should be mounted in a sealed box as well as they do still emit the same gasses. NONE of your setups would pass a real tech inspection. IMO drift organizations need to step up their tech. This thread is specifically why I have no respect for drift kids or 240 guys in general. You've got no appreciation or respect for anything safety related. This shit is not a game...

:mephfawk:

[teh smithers]

First of all ONLY dry cell batteries can safely be mounted inside the cabin without a sealed battery box....knowledge knowledge angry knowledge... You've got no appreciation or respect for anything safety related.

Just bought a dry cell Odyssey PC925 for my relocation to the trunk. :hug:

[mr.nismo.]

wanted to get a pic of my setup
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g398/dev71893/IMG_1279_zps580af645.jpg

[MrChow]

Pretty much everything posted in this thread is WRONG. First of all ONLY dry cell batteries can safely be mounted inside the cabin without a sealed battery box. Non-drycell batteries emit gasses as they charge/dis-charge. These gasses are not only potentially dangerous to your health, they are also potentially flammable. The Optimas are NOT dry cell, they are gel-cell. Those batteries should be mounted in a sealed box as well as they do still emit the same gasses. NONE of your setups would pass a real tech inspection. IMO drift organizations need to step up their tech. This thread is specifically why I have no respect for drift kids or 240 guys in general. You've got no appreciation or respect for anything safety related. This shit is not a game...

:mephfawk:

Thank you...

[KiLLeR2001]

Support - FAQs :: OPTIMA® Batteries (http://www.optimabatteries.com/us/en/support/faqs/)



What is a gel battery? Is OPTIMA® a gel battery?

A gel battery design is typically a modification of the standard lead-acid automotive or marine battery. A gelling agent is added to the electrolyte to reduce movement inside the battery case. Many gel batteries also use one-way valves in place of open vents, which help the normal internal gasses to recombine back into water in the battery, reducing gassing. Generally, gel batteries are less tolerant of high heat and are charged at lower power than traditional or AGM batteries. An OPTIMA battery is neither a gel battery nor regular flooded battery. OPTIMA is a SPIRALCELLTECHNOLOGY AGM battery.




Does an OPTIMA® battery ever gas?

When used with a properly regulated constant voltage charging system (such as an alternator), the OPTIMA will not emit hydrogen gas. However, gassing can occur when charging at excessive voltage levels or in extreme high-temperature conditions. In automotive applications, this typically will not happen if the alternator/regulator stays below 15 volts.

[boyou2]

odyssey pc680, I pulled off the OEM battery bracket, it sits right :

http://free0.hiboox.com/images/2512/e318a95f5d87c0eb603a92da3b36f31d.jpg (http://www.hiboox.fr/go/images/divers/imag0697,e318a95f5d87c0eb603a92da3b36f31d.jpg.html )

no issue with it, it starts well even after a few weeks.

[Drift_FX]

Pretty much everything posted in this thread is WRONG. First of all ONLY dry cell batteries can safely be mounted inside the cabin without a sealed battery box. Non-drycell batteries emit gasses as they charge/dis-charge. These gasses are not only potentially dangerous to your health, they are also potentially flammable. The Optimas are NOT dry cell, they are gel-cell. Those batteries should be mounted in a sealed box as well as they do still emit the same gasses. NONE of your setups would pass a real tech inspection. IMO drift organizations need to step up their tech. This thread is specifically why I have no respect for drift kids or 240 guys in general. You've got no appreciation or respect for anything safety related. This shit is not a game...

:mephfawk:


mines tech legal..... but im also running a rear firewall not pictured, that's why I said fabrication in the pic wasn't finished.....

[racepar1]

mines tech legal..... but im also running a rear firewall not pictured, that's why I said fabrication in the pic wasn't finished.....

With a firewall that would work fine. Your setup (as pictured) was actually the MOST non-techable of all of them since you had no firewall between the cabin and the gas tank. I was hopeful that one would be installed on the finished setup though. The work done looked too nice to be missing something that important!

:bigok:

That's why I used the wording "pretty much everything"...

[mr.nismo.]

What's wrong with my setup? I've been allowed to track at Fontana with it

[Drift_FX]

With a firewall that would work fine. Your setup (as pictured) was actually the MOST non-techable of all of them since you had no firewall between the cabin and the gas tank. I was hopeful that one would be installed on the finished setup though. The work done looked too nice to be missing something that important!

:bigok:

That's why I used the wording "pretty much everything"...


what? you mean there is something wrong with having your gas tank inside the cabin?.....lol.... yeah that was a mid construction picture...

[racepar1]

What's wrong with my setup? I've been allowed to track at Fontana with it

That depends on what kind of battery you have. The box in your setup is a non-sealed marine box. It's basically the cheapest crap you can get. If your battery is NOT a dry cell it should be sealed with a vent hose to outside the cabin. Just because you have a battery box doesn't make it correct. I would guess that the positive cable is not properly routed, secured and insulated, based on the jankyness I see in your pic...

"Tech inspection" at most track and drift events is a JOKE...

Also, if you'll notice I made my post before you posted your setup.


Just for reference, THIS is a sealed battery box...

Summit Racing® Premium Battery Boxes SUM-G1230 - Free Shipping on Orders Over $99 at DX Engineering (http://www.dxengineering.com/parts/sum-g1230?seid=dxese1&gclid=CI-1wIXDsLcCFYLm7AodqSYA1w)

[mr.nismo.]

Jankyness? I asked what's wrong not be an asshole. And as a matter of fact it is insulted and routed correctly. You shouldn't assume things

[racepar1]

Jankyness? I asked what's wrong not be an asshole. And as a matter of fact it is insulted and routed correctly. You shouldn't assume things

Well, there's a rat's nest of wires all over that is evidence of the opposite of what you're claiming. I'm an asshole, you've got a cheap ass battery box with wires hanging all over. Get over it...

I have little confidence that you would know what "routed, secured, and insulated properly" would look like...

Sorry dude, I call it like I see it.

[mr.nismo.]

So two wires from the pos and one for the neg is a rats nest? Wow someone's anal. I'm not even done. I have a cut off handle en route. Btw it's a dry battery. Made by Maserati that has theirs in the trunk as well. Again don't assume things

[mantas]

That cheap tie down does not work well. I used it in my datsun and it gets loose within a few months. Does the job but in a car that goes sideways or sees track time - could be a hazard. Im using an optima with 750cca and its been great for over 4 years, no corrosion at always at 12.75v when car is off.

[mr.nismo.]

I'm not using the plastic mounts, I made mine from metal

[racepar1]

So two wires from the pos and one for the neg is a rats nest? Wow someone's anal. I'm not even done. I have a cut off handle en route. Btw it's a dry battery. Made by Maserati that has theirs in the trunk as well. Again don't assume things

I've never seen a dry cell from an OE, I'd like to see it. Just because the battery is inside the car from the factory doesn't necessarily make it a dry cell. BMW's and a lot of other europeans have regular wet cell batteries in the trunk. The vents just have hoses going outside the cabin.

As for the wires I'm also looking at all the stereo wires. Not only that, but I'm commenting on how the wiring is routed, loomed, and secured in the pic. IMO the routing isn't very good. They all seem to be routed individually rather than looming them together, and the way their routed just looks sloppy IMO.

There are a couple positive things about your setup. You have a fuse, which is good, and it's FAR from the worst thing in this thread.

Yes I am anal. I don't like sloppy looking shit, ESPECIALLY wiring. That is a big pet-peeve of mine. I work on other people's 240's all the time. I have to deal with sloppy wiring all the time. I HATE it...

[mr.nismo.]

I didn't install my amp as i didnt have enough knowledge to do so at the time. I never really looked into rerouting the wiring

[headup240]

Like I said I moved mine up front. Big Crank ETX30L. I squeezed it in next to the intercooler piping.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/StuartMace/DSC01952_zpsbbb8c802.jpg

Big Crank ETX30L Battery - Free Shipping: BatteryMart.com (http://www.batterymart.com/p-Big-Crank-ETX30L-Battery.html)

[ov1989]

subbed!! interesting