when building a drift car what corners can be cut?

[89hatchman]

What parts should you buy new name brand?

What parts can you buy used?

What parts can you get away with ebay?

I've heard that you can get away with an ebay BOV and intercooler set up, is this true? It makes sense, its a pretty simple part of the car

Can you get away with buying coilovers used? Typically most used set ups haven't been on for more than 2 years so so I guess you could...

Anyone have a list for this?

[FaLKoN240]

You can buy everything used as long as they're quality parts.

Buying NEW eBay suspension arms or anything with moving parts for that matter is not advisable.

I daily drive all my "drift" cars so I only put parts on my car that I can count on. Getting a tow home is not cheap for me.

[OrangeVirus1]

Who said you have to even have a turbo to drift?
I would not buy a ebay intercooler, unless it is a decent one. Some are so crappy made that they would probably have like 10% efficiency on a freezing cold day.


I don't see how having an ebay exhaust would hurt your drifting.

I wouldn't buy used coil-overs. hell most coil-overs aren't even made to last many miles ( I've read some are only good to like 20k miles )

[240boi115]

my god.... put your flame suit on buddy.... do research man! honestly you should never cut corners on anything in life but im not your mammy, but even more so why would you cut corners with a car your going to be putting in high stress situations anyway? dpo you have a dathwish?

if you want to buy e bay stuff go ahead but dont complain about the quaility later on when your car is falling apart on the track, dont mean to be an ass but im going to be one of the lighter critics here.

[89hatchman]

Who said you have to even have a turbo to drift?
I would not buy a ebay intercooler, unless it is a decent one. Some are so crappy made that they would probably have like 10% efficiency on a freezing cold day.


I don't see how having an ebay exhaust would hurt your drifting.

I wouldn't buy used coil-overs. hell most coil-overs aren't even made to last many miles ( I've read some are only good to like 20k miles )

No one said it had to be turbo'd, but I sprung for the SR20 since my sohc threw a rod and called it quits.

Alright, thats what I was figuring with the coilovers. I'm looking at the isis or megan racing coil overs, which would you suggest?

*ISIS HR Pro Series Coilovers - Nissan 240sx 89-94 - Enjuku Racing Parts, LLC (http://www.enjukuracing.com/products/%2AISIS-HR-Pro-Series-Coilovers-%252d-Nissan-240sx-89%252d94.html)

Megan Racing Street Coilovers For Nissan 240sx - Enjuku Racing Parts, LLC (http://www.enjukuracing.com/products/Megan-Racing-Street-Coilovers-For-Nissan-240sx.html)

Shame that enjuku gouges the shit out of shipping though.

[Matej]

First of all, do not buy a used car. Make sure to start with a new brand name car. It will save you a lot of headache.

[89hatchman]

First of all, do not buy a used car. Make sure to start with a new brand name car. It will save you a lot of headache.

ah, I see, that is where I went wrong.

[OrangeVirus1]

For real drifting, I wouldn't get either of those coil-overs. I don't know how well they would handle the abuse in the long term.

All "ebay is shit aside" you can get away with a damn ebay exhaust. I mean it's a damn metal pipe, it isn't going to make your car spin out and flip over on the track.

Get a decent intercooler, it will be better both ways. Lower intake temps + wont look like shit + better efficiency.

I dunno personally I know like 0.01% about drifting and drifting setups. but I know a few people out here who drift like serious business and they always talk about control arms.

[!Zar!]

What corners can be cut? According to most of the cars on zilvia, all of them.

[Drift_FX]

the less corners you cut...... the less problems you will have later..... if you have to cut corners, go ahead and sign up for AAA insurance and get there roadside assistance, because your gonna need some tows....

my advice, do it right the first time, so you wont have to do it again......and again...... and again......

[240boi115]

ok but on a serious note name brand should be done with your suspension because thats what keeps you planted on the road. megan coils are a good start and then eventually you can move to name brands if they dont fit your driving style (most people cant really feel the difference between name brand and lower grade parts anyway)

as for motor stuff thats up to you but i know for sure that a blits BOV will sound and perform better than an ebay one

did you try frsport or the nismo shop?

[racepar1]

I can tell that you've got the wrong mindset already.

First off, FORGET building a drift car. Unless you've got a truck and trailer you need something that can reliably be driven to and from the track. The "drift car" mentality won't get you that. Even if you DO have a truck and trailer you still want a car that you can reliably beat the shit out of all day at the track.

Start with the little things. Bushings, brake pads, engine maintenance, leaks. If your belts and hoses are old as fuck and your car leaks like crap it's not going to be anywhere near reliable. Attention to detail is key.

DO NOT BUY ANY E-BAY/ KNOCK-OFF PART THAT HAS ANY MOVING PARTS. Anything that moves is a wearable item. Any cheap-o crap is going to wear out way faster than a quality part. This includes a BOV...

Used parts can be fine. Just make sure that you're buying from a reputable seller and you have detailed pics and description. If an item looks beat in the pic, it IS beat.

[OutlawLui]

What corners can be cut? According to most of the cars on zilvia, all of them.

Hahahahahahhaha you SOB

[racepar1]

megan coils are a good start

Megan is NEVER a "good start"...

:down:

[OrangeVirus1]

the less corners you cut...... the less problems you will have later..... if you have to cut corners, go ahead and sign up for AAA insurance and get there roadside assistance, because your gonna need some tows....

my advice, do it right the first time, so you wont have to do it again......and again...... and again......

AAA is no joke. I thank myself that I had that when my timing belt broke on my gsx in middle of town.

and it's only like 70$ a YEAR

[89hatchman]

ok but on a serious note name brand should be done with your suspension because thats what keeps you planted on the road. megan coils are a good start and then eventually you can move to name brands if they dont fit your driving style (most people cant really feel the difference between name brand and lower grade parts anyway)

as for motor stuff thats up to you but i know for sure that a blits BOV will sound and perform better than an ebay one

did you try frsport or the nismo shop?

Megan isn't considered name brand? I thought it was the lower end of the name brand spectrum


Megan is NEVER a "good start"...

:down:

Why not?

[racepar1]

Why not?

Megan/godspeed are the cheapest of the cheap. Their coilovers ride/perform like crap. The bearings in their suspension arms wear very quickly. basically don't buy anything with a moving part from these companies. Megan/godspeed IS cheap e-bay crap...

[240boi115]

Megan is NEVER a "good start"...

:down:

the track coils are fine for someone who wants to get low and pass time as they save up for good coils...i have plenty of friends who rock megan while they save up for the real coils they want.. id hate looking at a stock ride height too man...

[OrangeVirus1]

what you should do is just beat up the stock suspension and upgrade it when it fails.

[240boi115]

you opinions on isis then mr?

[S14jake]

dont listen to all these haters, you can get everything you need on ebay from reputable sellers like "superhappydriftcar"

slip on coil-over springs, replica seats, non inspected harnesses, no name roll cages and of course herra dope stickers. Everything you need in one place!!

[240boi115]

^^^^ did you follow your own advice???? ive bought items fromt e bay before and seriously its all cheap chinese crap that falls apart. godspeed coils are even better than some weird off brand coils ive seen on e bay. we arent hating... we are saving this kids life from headaches later on with his car man.

[OrangeVirus1]

dont listen to all these haters, you can get everything you need on ebay from reputable sellers like "superhappydriftcar"

slip on coil-over springs, replica seats, non inspected harnesses, no name roll cages and of course herra dope stickers. Everything you need in one place!!

Harnesses and Roll cages are over rated. If you crash you die, so don't crash.

I do believe the best ebay seller is actually I-LoveTACOTACO and BoostMASTERS.

OP, just Upgrade when your stock suspension fails ( like next week )

[racepar1]

the track coils are fine for someone who wants to get low and pass time as they save up for good coils...i have plenty of friends who rock megan while they save up for the real coils they want.. id hate looking at a stock ride height too man...

This is the problem with kids now-a-days. You've just gotta have everything right now. Why not just skip the Megan's and buy the coilovers you really want in the first place? Have a little patience rather than throwing money away on crap...

[S14jake]

what you should do is just beat up the stock suspension and upgrade it when it fails.

Get out of here with this logic and common sense. Next you're gonna tell the guy that he doesn't need an sr to drift

[racepar1]

^^^^ did you follow your own advice???? ive bought items fromt e bay before and seriously its all cheap chinese crap that falls apart. godspeed coils are even better than some weird off brand coils ive seen on e bay. we arent hating... we are saving this kids life from headaches later on with his car man.

The sarcasm in that post obviously went right over your head, didn't it???

:duh:

[89hatchman]

This is the problem with kids now-a-days. You've just gotta have everything right now. Why not just skip the Megan's and buy the coilovers you really want in the first place? Have a little patience rather than throwing money away on crap...

Alright, then what is the best brand for the buck? I'm not made of money but I'll spend the extra dough for a set up that functions better and lasts a bit longer


Get out of here with this logic and common sense. Next you're gonna tell the guy that he doesn't need an sr to drift

ah shit man, I just blew all that money for nothing!

[OrangeVirus1]

Get out of here with this logic and common sense. Next you're gonna tell the guy that he doesn't need an sr to drift

no no no.. without a SR drifting is impossible..

best track setup is a 3 T66 turbos with nos, and a MoTeC system exhaust.

[240boi115]

The sarcasm in that post obviously went right over your head, didn't it???

:duh:

it did so my bad... and I do wait, save and buy but there are people that cant afford everything name brand and would end up having a 25 year build if they saved up for every part( yes its a slight exageration there) we dont all make uber bank i mean people tend to buy an s13 because its cheap and easy to modify on a budget.. others see it as a cheap drift rocket.

im not saying your wrong at all and do agree with you that name brand is the way to go.

[240boi115]

no no no.. without a SR drifting is impossible..

best track setup is a 3 T66 turbos with nos, and a MoTeC system exhaust.

hahaha ??? well according to fd the ls motor is the perfect drift motor. lol

[OrangeVirus1]

hahaha ??? well according to fd the ls motor is the perfect drift motor. lol

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[240boi115]

.....swear to god (flame suit on)

[InsTanCeZ]

All you need for drifting is a bucket seat, coilovers, and a 2 way lsd. Used will work fine. Also, you can get cool wheels and a loud exhaust for extra coolness. Everything else can be purchased later once you get bored or reach the max potential of your setup, or just have extra money to spend lol.

[OrangeVirus1]

.....swear to god (flame suit on)

we were obviously trolling / being sarcastically dumb.

the SR20 is crap.

[240boi115]

^^^ true dat.

[racepar1]

Alright, then what is the best brand for the buck? I'm not made of money but I'll spend the extra dough for a set up that functions better and lasts a bit longer

Stance and Fortune Auto are the first to come to mind. I'm a shock snob, if it doesn't say Koni or Bilstein I'm probably not interested. I'm not very up to date on the entry level stuff...

[trxrx7]

im gonna tell you one thing, getting cheap suspension parts etc. is ok if you are too cheap to buy quality parts(prepare yourself for buying the same parts more than once), but anything related to the engine i wouldn't cheap out because engine work is expensive(if your coilovers are blown you can still drift on them they will ride like crap but you will still be able to drive, if the motor goes bang your not going anywhere) i think you get what you pay for and if you are to cheap to buy quality parts maybe drifting is not for you, just saying cause drifting is gonna make a few changes to your bank account!

[240boi115]

we were obviously trolling / being sarcastically dumb.

the SR20 is crap.

wel lno need to state anything about the sr from you lol we all know you're an rb20 finatic:ddog:

[kOOpA]

Spend $1000~ on coils, get a diff, get a bucket seat, go drive.

[jamg]

AAA is no joke. I thank myself that I had that when my timing belt broke on my gsx in middle of town.

and it's only like 70$ a YEAR

srsly..

i bought the $100 package. i've got 1 tow left, already used up 3 of my other tows for different cars.

a must have for every 240 owner.

[240boi115]

srsly..

i bought the $100 package. i've got 1 tow left, already used up 3 of my other tows for different cars.

a must have for every 240 owner.

same here... ive been told plenty of times ''when you buy a 240 your also buyin a lifetime project'' ;)

[tricky_ab]

Oh god this thread...I think it's time to put my parts up for sale...

What corners can be cut? According to most of the cars on zilvia, all of them.

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[DJPimpFlex]

i hate you and this thread.

[240boi115]

how has this thread not been shut down yet? xD

[S14jake]

Spend $1000~ on coils, get a diff, get a bucket seat, go drive.

op..In all seriousness do this. end of story.

[xoxide]

For real drifting, I wouldn't get either of those coil-overs. I don't know how well they would handle the abuse in the long term.


If you dont know , then why the fuck are you giving advice. Stop talking out of your ass about stuff you have no experience with.


That being said, the Isis HR series coilovers have been getting some decent reviews as of late. Would I buy them? No. If I was you, I would purchase a set of Fortune Auto 500 series coilovers, weld your diff (or go with an LSD if you have the budget for it), buy suspension arms, and go have fun.

On the topic of suspension arms- Ive had Megan arms, and liked them. They lasted me a good while (until I sold them for PBM's), Isis arms have a lot of good reviews, and the Ebay arms arent as bad as people make them out to be. I have the RUCA's and Toe arms from ebay on my daily, and they have held up for almost a year with no issues. No signs of abnormal wear (I just checked today when I was replacing my brakes).

Suspension is probably one of the most important components to buy new/ quality if its in your budget. I would never buy used suspension arms.

Coilovers are alright to buy used, just make sure the seller is reputable, and they are not blown, leaking, etc.

Lots of people have good success with Ebay turbo's, BOV's, and intercoolers, so thats kind of up to you- you need to do some research and decide for yourself. I run an ebay intercooler core, but I run a real HKS bov. Stay away from the ebay turbos, and just stick with the stock Garrett T25 or 28.

Hope this helps some, and if you have any more questions feel free to shoot me a PM. Dont listen to anything Orangevirus has to say, he is the resident dumbass that likes to troll when he himself asks more dumb questions than most noobs combined on this forum.

[ZX88]

you want a good set up for drifting Godspeed, ISIS, Megan, Ksport, Circute sport all of them, one car and youll be all set.

[K_style]

For real drifting, I wouldn't get either of those coil-overs. I don't know how well they would handle the abuse in the long term.

All "ebay is shit aside" you can get away with a damn ebay exhaust. I mean it's a damn metal pipe, it isn't going to make your car spin out and flip over on the track.

Get a decent intercooler, it will be better both ways. Lower intake temps + wont look like shit + better efficiency.

I dunno personally I know like 0.01% about drifting and drifting setups. but I know a few people out here who drift like serious business and they always talk about control arms.

You talk about "Real" Drifting, Do you even know how to drive?

[240boi115]

^^^^ well i know people that call doing doughnuts in a parking lot drifting and that my friend is not "real drifting" when it comes to suspension go all name brand...if you cant afford it then save the money.... megan stuff is ok but its a simple replacement for when youre waiting for the real deal to be put on your car. nuff said. i ran megans and they were ok and i have friends that ride megans and they love it.. i rode in my homie Wyatt's 240 hatch ( clean as fuuh by the way) and he runs tiens.... after feeling how his car handles those are the coils i want. seriously though!!!! you get what you pay for!!! thats LIFE!

[S14jake]

I thought this was a how to cut corners thread not a suspension review. I want more help making my car worse and pretending I'm an FD driver.

[Purestock240]

please cut your idea of owning a 240

[suspectu1]

This is the problem with kids now-a-days. You've just gotta have everything right now. Why not just skip the Megan's and buy the coilovers you really want in the first place? Have a little patience rather than throwing money away on crap...

agreed! I actually fell for the Megan bullshit like 4 years ago :cj:
I got a good deal on a set of brand new KW v3s (1400$) last summer and have been praising the german gods ever since for making REAL suspension for these cars.
good things happen to those who wait ;) shouldn't have bought the Megans in the first place. Car was far better off on stock shocks and springs.
Raise money and buy good parts, you won't be sorry.

Oh btw, i'm ALL FOR the ebay intercooler, as long as you go with brand-name bov (NEW! used ones leak)

[240boi115]

I thought this was a how to cut corners thread not a suspension review. I want more help making my car worse and pretending I'm an FD driver.
oh my bad drifted off topic...like the OPs 240 might do off a road with the suspension he'll put on it..
please cut your idea of owning a 240

lmao ftw:wiggle::bowrofl::bowrofl:

[Shift n Drift]

ebay exhaust and intercooler are fine, been running a godspeed IC for over 5 years, no problems. IC couplings- money on, not fun replacing em after 2 run at the track, and then the next run, Injectors, you can get used from someone that just upgraded and is reputable. Cams?, shit i got my HKS steps 1's for my s14sr for 100 a peice shipped from different sellers and had em micropolished at machine shop for 10 each, that was 240 bucks saved..., power fc's or any stand alone you can get used from a reputable seller. and really, if you're gonna spend 800 on coils why cant you just wait for another paycheck to get the ones you want?, weld your diff, or j30 from junkyard, reshim it though and you're good on that. Im tired of typing.

[PoorMans180SX]

Any quality part will outperform it's knock-off Chinese counterpart in some aspect.

There's an old saying that goes something like this:

Cheap. Fast. Reliable.

Pick two.

/Thread.

[GroundPerformance]

when building a drift car what corners can be cut?


You could always do a RB20DET Swap.

[Purestock240]

I can't believe people are actually giving this person a serious answer.

how fucking hard is it for people to use their heads these days.

write down everything that is necessary to have a car that will drift,

chances are corners can be cut on everything else. ahhhh duhhhh

[xoxide]

You could always do a RB20DET Swap. Bahahaha I see what you did there. To bad he's pinked and won't see this for a bit.

[fliprayzin240sx]

^^^He's pinked, he can still see chat...

[Om1kron]

You can start off by giving up vagina, and letting mom and dad know you're going to be a professional drifter.

[PandahZ650]

what is this, the how much of a peasant car can i build and still drift thread?

why don't you do some research, find the parts you want that suit your needs, talk to people you know that have used the parts you are considering and then buy them.

from your thread, i'm assuming you dont know how to drift. i dont know if you know yet but you don't need some crazy setup to drift. All you need is a safe running car with a working diff to drift. Learn to drift and then upgrade your car before you possibly crash it with all your new/used/good/bad(whatever path you choose) parts on it

[EsChassisLove]

This is the economies fault lolol

[EnemyS15]

I hope this K-mart drift mobile loses a wheel in mid "drift" and the car becomes a crushed can.

I wouldn't wish you any harm. Just your soon-to-be shitty drift mobile.

[SuperBlackS14]

You can start off by giving up vagina, and letting mom and dad know you're going to be a professional drifter.

Welcome Back.

How To Setup a Nissan 240SX for Drifting – The Basic Guide - Redline360 (http://www.redline360.com/garage/how-to-setup-a-nissan-240sx-for-drifting-the-basic-guide)

Here. From now on, before you ask stupid questions, you should probably ask google. He knows more than you and always will.

Let me sum up the general attitude here. Buying quality parts will ALWAYS pay dividends in the long run. You won't end up crying over broken parts no matter how cheap and waiting weeks for your warranty-replacement-shitty-part to arrive.

Quality parts, made by quality companies, have quality control, and quality customer service. That's what you pay for. Hell, you COULD drift in a stock car. YOU SHOULD IN FACT, because it will teach you how your car handles.

Season 5 Premiere - Drift Car - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ThG_keOLEE)
Drift Car Build - Part 2 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDe-CMZmXXo)
180SX Coilover Suspension - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7aXjnQkVOA)

These will give you basics. They can be applied to your car, obviously not the specific-engine-specific stuff, but the whole "reliability first" idea is something you should follow.

Motorsports is not for the faint of heart, or light of wallet. It's very much a pay to play. Yes, some people buy used/cheap parts to make events. But you don't sound like the type of person who NEEDS to make events. You sound like the type of person who would rather be driving than fixing your car every week...

[uraznfriend]

im surprised no one has said this yet,

The only thing you cant cheap out on are ZIPTIES
its like basics of drifting

[Rustys14]

^^^ that post made me lol.

In all seriousness here is another decent guide for setting up a basic drift car ALL THOSE NEW TO DRIFTING OR RELATIVELY NEW, CAR GUIDELINES! (http://www.clubloose.com/clubloose/forum/index.php?topic=1127.0)

Remember, having a reliable car will help you progress faster and have more fun on the track so focus most of your efforts on making your car as reliable as possible.

[Petitt]

Dear god the amount of stupid in this thread makes me wanna sell my car and buy a unicycle.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Dear god the amount of stupid in this thread makes me wanna sell my car and buy a unicycle.

Is that a promise?

[Tank_4g63]

You can't really cheap out on stuff if you want to be able to drive your car back home after an event. This is a basic law of any performance driving event. From autocross to drag racing to drifting to rallyx.

But if you have a truck, and a trailer, feel free to invest good money in a wench or some come-a-longs and cheap out on suspension,tires,seats, and driveline parts. Then be prepared to install those same parts several times, or pay others to install them for you several times.

I work in a shop and we have no problem installing cheap ass parts customers buy, because we know in the long run we will be doing the same work again in a few months, charging them the same amount of money, or more when the part fails and damages other things as well. Now we all ways recommend top of the line parts, not just because we get a better profit margin off top dollar parts, but because the customer stays happy and recommends us to others.

[Petitt]

Is that a promise?

Not even a threat.

[fliprayzin240sx]

I just wanna see you on a unicycle...

[Petitt]

That's got faceplant written all over it.

I'll get the video camera.

[nekrodev]

I'd say you can cheap on on fenders and bumpers, but nothing functional.

Stupid question, though. Seriously, what parts can I get cheap, shitty version of and still drift? Gotta pay to play, dude.

[bigs]

all of them, cut all of the corners