View Full Version : S13 with sr start and idle issue help ASAP
GentlemenDRiFT
04-08-2013, 07:21 PM
Okay s13 with blacktop sr running a e6 Ecu with a auto TPS. Car will start and idle at about 1100rpm for about 2 seconds then dies out. If hold throttle and start it will go to about 3k then die. MAF seems fine not sure what issue would be other than that Ny help would be appreciated I'm in Clarksville Tennessee about to deploy so tight on time 8084920650
BGeezy
04-09-2013, 05:36 PM
Sounds like a Maf issuer for sure
cotbu
04-09-2013, 06:41 PM
Seems like more than just a mafs issue. pull codes before you do anything to see if theres a mafs code. take a screw driver and open up the IACV just 1 full turn, start the car. After the car stays idling on it's own, rev it to see if it'll pass 3k rpm
Have you looked at the voltage from the tps?
set the tps per fsm, if the idle is still high after warm up? just set base idle per fsm too.
GentlemenDRiFT
04-09-2013, 07:58 PM
Well the Ecu light isn't even lighting up and not to sure how to test for a bad Ecu.
However the TPS is at correct voltage So cancels that's out MAF is clean and clear. It i can't get it to stay running it dies off
GentlemenDRiFT
04-10-2013, 08:22 PM
UPDATE.
IF I unplug MAF and TPS it will idle and run but can't touch throttle or dies. Of either are plugged in it won't idle. Which to replace auto TPS or MAF.
Also of I were to get a 5apeed TPS I need a 5speed Ecu and does anything else need changed?
cotbu
04-10-2013, 09:44 PM
We need to know the values of things to actually help over the interweb.
I asked if you looked at the tps voltage? you repliedWell the Ecu light isn't even lighting up and not to sure how to test for a bad Ecu.
However the TPS is at correct voltage So cancels that's out MAF is clean and clear. It i can't get it to stay running it dies off
Then for some reason you update with
IF I unplug MAF and TPS it will idle and run but can't touch throttle or dies. Of either are plugged in it won't idle. Which to replace auto TPS or MAF.
Also of I were to get a 5apeed TPS I need a 5speed Ecu and does anything else need changed?
Why would you even consider thinking the TPS and MAFS are Bad, without knowing what they should be reporting to the ecu.
Did you even try this?
take a screw driver and open up the IACV just 1 full turn,
If you don't want my help you can tell me, I wont be offended.
If you do want my help, I'm usually giving 100% and will walk you through any test i may request.
Plug in the tps and mafs! Check the ecu for codes!
You should have a code for them well because you unplugged them and then started the engine. So you'll have to clear the codes verify codes are gone. start the car or at least try. then check for codes again. If no codes, you may have an ecu problem, mafs and tps could be good. we can test to verify!
Im gonna post this now...you might not even want my help, so I'll wait for you to reply.
And you should have a multimeter in you list of tools, if you want my help?
GentlemenDRiFT
04-11-2013, 10:15 AM
No I appreciate the help if you could text me to speed up process I'd appreciate it. 8084920650. And TPS or MAF because wont idle with either plugged in and I can't get any lights on Ecu to light up or flash. I'm military so always busy but I get off early today if u could call text me and I'll walk u through the issue and what volts are and shit man. Really appreciate it
cotbu
04-12-2013, 07:17 AM
I would rather keep it to the forum or i would have to charge you.
We would need to make sure the ecu is working first, or everything else goes out the window.
Does the check engine light, illuminate when the key is turned to the on position? If so, maybe the consult port is wired up as well. If you can put the ecu into diagnostic mode, check the cluster for the check engine light to flash. If none of that works we would have to check the ecu's power and backup power/grounds etc. So check the egi relay make sure it works, swap it with a matching relay, probe the pins of the relay socket
find the ign power wires, the find the ecu power and trace that to the ecu. The pins you'll be working with on the ecu are 4,38,39,46,47, and 48. That's of the top of my head so you'll need a diagram for that.
If you had a consult cable and program it would be as simple as connecting to port then, clicking connect.
Whatever you do to verify the ecu is working should be fine as long as it's in the car that wont stay running. Maybe swap a known working ecu into the car to see if you get ecu lights.
GentlemenDRiFT
04-12-2013, 06:09 PM
Okay so I swapped new MAF and wired in a manual TPS to my auto harness and a manual e5 Ecu and it won't start at all now. And no led on the Ecu at all. If I out e6 in it will at least start but won't stay running. Ignition has power change all relays out.
wangan_cruiser
04-13-2013, 01:47 AM
Man u dont know how to listen
GentlemenDRiFT
04-13-2013, 06:27 AM
Lol just because I didn't repeat all he said ice traced all wires checked all ground tested Ecu. There's no light on dash. It's stil won't run blah blah blah. It's not the MAF TPS or e u it's something stupid probably
inopsey
04-13-2013, 09:50 AM
never read the update :edit
GentlemenDRiFT
04-13-2013, 02:03 PM
Okay here's what I got someone jump in please.
Manual TPS, e5 manual Ecu car won't start at all.
Manual TPS e6 auto Ecu tries to sart but won't idle.
Unplug the MAF and TPS car starts idles at 1000rpm let it idle for 10 minutes to warm up then I threw the TPS and MAF plug back in while running and it started to die then caught itself and idled at 1700 rpm but wouldn't come down, if I hit throttle it will rev but if I hit throttle fast it cuts out. Any ideas. MAF TPS coil packs all have power ground. Idk why the manual Ecu won't start nor why it cuts out.
Kriskouki
04-20-2013, 02:08 AM
I think you'd better take it a little step-by-step problem solving procedure.....
Now, what it seems to be is you have an stable idle and once it turned over, it died out.....
If the car is manual then you should start with manual TPS.....Check the Factory Service Manual to see if the TPS is functonal......You can perform Throttle Position Sensor: TPS checking by following the service manual........But, one thing I need to tell you is that please don't just swap things over and tell which is bad or which is good
As for MAF& ECU, you can google it to check that the MAF and ECU are compatible.....SR20DET has more than one part number on MAFs....For example, as for s14 SR20DET notchtop has 2 different MAFs, which are 69F00 and 69F01, and they both work on different ECUs.....I personally have no ideas on s13 Red top or black top, but it is your job to check....... So, be sure that you have matching P/N on the MAF and ECU......
Lastly, you haven't mentioned that the car has been freshly done the swap or not.....But, if you car has been freshly done the motor swap and haven't ran before, I would recommend to check the wiring as well.....Most of the problems caused by the bad wiring......
Hope this helps.....
GentlemenDRiFT
04-20-2013, 03:43 PM
UPDATE!!!!
Okay so got a new issue. I had car plugged in on NISTUNE and found out I was only getting 9.9 on injectors At wot. I pulled all fuel out of tank cleaned it added new fuel and new fuel filter. Replaced pump and now it won't fire I hear the pump prime but no fuel comes out of the hoses after the filter. Not sure if pump is bad or a bad wiring.
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