S chassis height for drifitng

[wadhah]

hey guys , im kinda new to the s chassis got my first s13 and im building a drift car

ive noticed that most professional s chassis drift cars have their front end higher than the rear ( FD , D1 ) is there a reason for that in regards to handling or its done simply for clearnece when having crazy amounts of angle?

Thanks

[Frank_Jaeger]

s13s come from the factory with a noticeably larger front gap than the rear. If you maintain stock height with the proper coil setup (konis + ground controls are said to be the best), you'll have a fully functioning suspension. People lower their cars for looks more than anything. If you want maximum performance, replace your shocks / struts and keep your stock height. If you do lower your car, you should invest in adjustable suspension pieces to correct for having a lower roll center.

http://zilvia.net/f/archive-faqs/270829-writeup-custom-koni-ground-control-coilover-setup-assembly.html

[oni jake]

MotoIQ did a fabulous write up on suspension and handling setups. Its long and very useful. Most people (who actually drive competitively) won't talk to you about setups if you never read this. This guide also answers any questions you might have.

The Ultimate Guide to Suspension & Handling (http://www.motoiq.com/tech/the_ultimate_guide_to_suspension_handling.aspx)

[KevinEdgar]

The reverse rake you see is to allow the front suspension's geometry to be correct.

But suspension is driver preference I guess. Do what works(for you and your budget) whether it's lowering springs or fully adjustable coilovers and links.

[Wake]

Learn how to drift a completely stock car and build as your experience goes up.
That is the only way to keep performance in line with skill.

[Frank_Jaeger]

Learn how to drift a completely stock car and build as your experience goes up.
That is the only way to keep performance in line with skill.
What if stock entails having an open diff and an auto trans with a stock KA? I think at the very least a VLSD is in order. Having the open diff dump on you mid-drift isn't any fun.

[Wake]

I learned to drift on an open diff. but yes a vlsd would be recommended.

If your trying to drift an auto your just dumb.

[TheRealSy90]

Get on the floor, walk the dinosaur.

[90240sx07]

drifted my auto with welded diff stock ka just fine power over and steer
but thats just because im waiting for my 5 speed parts to come in

[wadhah]

s13s come from the factory with a noticeably larger front gap than the rear. If you maintain stock height with the proper coil setup (konis + ground controls are said to be the best), you'll have a fully functioning suspension. People lower their cars for looks more than anything. If you want maximum performance, replace your shocks / struts and keep your stock height. If you do lower your car, you should invest in adjustable suspension pieces to correct for having a lower roll center.

http://zilvia.net/f/archive-faqs/270829-writeup-custom-koni-ground-control-coilover-setup-assembly.html

thanks guy!

i complitely get the rollcenter , suspensions geometry , bump steer etc this is my second drift car , besically i have all PBM stuff on car, i was just to know why most s chasis drift cars are heigher at the front than rear, thats all

[NoPistons!]

drifted my auto with welded diff stock ka just fine power over and steer
but thats just because im waiting for my 5 speed parts to come in


Manhandle into slide then mash pedal to the floor. =D That's how i do it in slushbox open anything. It sucks. Very limiting in HOW you slide. You can slide and link. It's good for a driver. Teaches you how to shift weight and use the handbrake to control your entry. Teaches you how to go in FASTER than you think you should go. Teaches you to not lift. Good stuff. Heaps of fun!. If you really want to go sideways, the only thing stopping you should be a lack of a car, not lack of setup.


Try to tuck rim and then get an alignment. Go drifting.

Try to barely tuck tire on the same setup and get an alignment again. Go drifting.

Try to wheel gap a SMIDGE or rake either direction and you guessed it! Go drifting.


See what feels better and more manageable to you and you'll have your answer. I can't give you MY answer. You may not like to drive how i like to drive. There is no 'standard' setup really. Do some more reading and go tune your car one shakedown at a time until you are happy with it. Sorry. Probably not what you wanted to hear but it's what you need to hear.

Oh, read this thread too: http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/296725-roll-center-suspension-pickup-steering-angle-modification-thread.html

Might take a while to read every page (which i suggest) but there is ALOT of info in here that can help.