New sound system

[drifterx]

do i want 10s or 12s? i want to get 2 of what ever i am getting... or maybe even 3 10s....
but probably get 2

10s hit every beat and sounds better
12s are louder and looks better......

3 tens or 1 15 <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>

believe it or not the fifteen can be as tight and accurate as a ten if its the right one..... my 15 inch solo-baric out plays my two ten inch cerwin vega vega series that i had

[ca18guy]

I'd go with 2 or 3 10's. I nearly bought a box that holds 4 10's but the day I planned to go get them was Sept. 11th so I was'nt able to get it <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('> Oh well saved me money I don't need to spend.

hmmmmm maybe two tens and one twelve all the same brand and series ? that would be neat

[gregshin]

i say go with 12's they play all the notes and don't get sloppy like a 15. &nbsp;Remember tho is 50% product and 50% install.

[DuffMan]

It's more cost effective to go with one 10 or 12. Having 2 wont make your system any louder. 600 watts going to one sub will be just as loud as 300 watts going to 2 of the same sub. You'll hit the exact same dB.

So instead of spending $100 per sub on each sub, and getting just okay subs. Spend $200 and get a really good sub. There are plenty out there that can handle a lot of power and still sound good. How much power do you intend to have available for your subs?

[whateverjames]

my 10's don't hit as low as they should, but i'm also missing 80 watts and i'm using the amps crappy crossover. i have 520 watts for bass. should be 600 <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

i'd say 12's are better if you're getting cheap speakers. but if you want good sound quality speakers, 10's may be better.

(Edited by whateverjames at 6:21 pm on Dec. 6, 2001)

[transient]

2 10s or one 12. I've got an alpine 12 inch and it's definately sweet, but I do hear it skip now and then on really fast jungle beats. Overall i'm really happy with it, but 10's would definately be faster.

[DragonReborn214]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from DuffMan on 3:14 pm on Dec. 6, 2001
It's more cost effective to go with one 10 or 12. Having 2 wont make your system any louder. 600 watts going to one sub will be just as loud as 300 watts going to 2 of the same sub. You'll hit the exact same dB.

So instead of spending $100 per sub on each sub, and getting just okay subs. Spend $200 and get a really good sub. There are plenty out there that can handle a lot of power and still sound good. How much power do you intend to have available for your subs?
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Agreed. All you really need is one 10 inch JL W6, powered by a RF 800 a2. That should give you the sound you need. Trust me, thats plenty.

[Arcane]

i understand your concern for a mix of clean sound and a good appearance. &nbsp;I suggest the 12&quot; JL W3's...the subwoofers have combined the crisp sound of a W0 and the loud deep bass of the 6...so you can get the best of both worlds...also, one should suffice but if you do decide to get two...just use two different amps to power them...you may need another battery for one...

or you could get one and the money you save from not buying the other one could go to a alarm system this time...

[bing]

i say grab a small non-heist worthy 10 incher, and really really good components inside the car, nobody takes those, just get a bottom of the line simple looking Nakamichi head unit, it looks simple and most people dont know what it is and it will smoke most shit out of any other domestic unit (sony, kenwood, pioneer etc.)

play it safe dude, and if you get really good speaks you may not have an complaints...

infinity has a 6.5 inch speak that is equivalent to a 8 inch sub in diameter and sound... hint hint

yah but that won't give u explosive bass.... but then again if u dont bump too much.... i suppose that would do eh?

[bing]

i think i was on crutchfield and they had Nak decks for a good deal, they are top end shit but they look real unassuming.... &nbsp;anyone who steals shit will probably think its an old legacy deck like the one they have in their car

[AJ]

what infiniti speakers are those?.. i need some 6.5's for my rear deck, any suggestions? i'll be running them with the stock amps, does anyone know what kinda peak and rms these put out and at what ohms? thanks.

im guessing he's talking abou the kappa's?

[my240likenoother]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from DuffMan on 6:14 pm on Dec. 6, 2001
It's more cost effective to go with one 10 or 12. Having 2 wont make your system any louder. 600 watts going to one sub will be just as loud as 300 watts going to 2 of the same sub. You'll hit the exact same dB.

So instead of spending $100 per sub on each sub, and getting just okay subs. Spend $200 and get a really good sub. There are plenty out there that can handle a lot of power and still sound good. How much power do you intend to have available for your subs?
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sorry to tell you that adding 1 more sub will increas you DB level by 10 db's

i have had 3 JLaudios 10w6,s and switched to 2 12w3's i love 12's you get a full range out of them

[whateverjames]

i've always heard if you have one sub, it takes three more to be twice as loud, and that each sub adds about 3db. and a 9db increase = twice as loud.

(Edited by whateverjames at 12:20 am on Dec. 7, 2001)

[bing]

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what infiniti speakers are those?.. i need some 6.5's for my rear deck, any suggestions? i'll be running them with the stock amps, does anyone know what kinda peak and rms these put out and at what ohms? thanks.
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yeah i looked at soem kappa's, they are extra wide but still 6.5, i &nbsp;dont know how but they are supposed to have equal bass response to a 8 inch sub, probably not a great 8 inch sub.

if i had to get a discreet system i'd launch those, a Nak deck and just sit a small 4 channel amp somewhere and amp all 4 speaks... word word

+3 db is doubling the sound.

[bing]

i should have mine measured, it's pretty loud with just a JL 12w3, but i got a 4 channel bridged into each voice coil and she br shaken

[whateverjames]

bah you're right &nbsp;+3 is double. &nbsp; anyone know if the other statement is true or false? if you have one speaker it takes 3 more to double the sound?

nope thats not true either..... the addition of one speaker can double the output effectively giving that +3db its just he fact that u can't exactly hear the difference all the time.

[misnomer]

I'm runnin Infinite Kappa 6.5&quot; components up front, 4&quot; Kappas in the back, and a 10&quot; Sony sub runnin' on 150 watts. Sounds good enough for me. . . &nbsp;I'm not one who likes to share his music with everybody else on the street (and I tend to dislike those who do <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>). I do want to amp my components, but that can wait. I am content.

A lot of the speaker size comes down to the music you listen to. A 12 will give you deeper and louder bass than a 10, also better for drawn out beats. But, a 10 will hit the quick beats better. Like someone said earlier though, installation is everything. Do it right or the best system will sound like shit

[mistert]

on the subject of stealth systems, dont certain manufacturers make subs designed to fit underneith the seats? i may be rockin' the rock here or somethin, but im pretty sure i remember reading about some subs which are specifically designed to fire out the side, and be low profile, looks sort of like a ufo with something coming out of the top, and sits right underneith your seats, where nobody can see them...anyone know anything about this?

[DuffMan]

Adding one sub will give you 3db, if you give it as much power as you gave the other one. The only other difference is that having more cone surface area will effect the way they sound, but wont make them louder. How loud your system gets depends entirely on your amp or amps (and the sensitivity, but thats not as important). That's how it works.

Why do people always look at me funny when I say I only have one sub? Perhaps because it goes louder than the average Best Buy installed 2 12 based system.

the stealth boxes house like a 6 1/2 inch &quot;deep excursion&quot; woofer..... thats bogus no 6 1/2 inch speaker can REALLY amount to the bass of one good 10 inch that can be mounted in the wheel well... and the under-seat subs get muffled even firing out the side its going to get muffled........ they didnt last long cuz they were too expensive..... and Clarion had that UFO looking thing <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>

[Sws681]

I've worked in car stereo for 5 years. &nbsp;I've done everything from fiberglassing to molding. &nbsp;I have an S14. &nbsp;I originally had two twelves with an V12 amp. It sounded sweet not to mention what it looked like. &nbsp;It was painted fiberglass to match the car. &nbsp;I recently just sold all of my old stuff and installed Two POLK DX 12s. &nbsp;With a 1200w Kenwood 401m. &nbsp;Instead of going with the crazy look I built two boxes that fit in each corner of the rear fenders in the trunk, with my amp located where my spare tire is. &nbsp;Everything is blended in.. &nbsp;I'm the process of getting a Digital Camara. &nbsp;So as soon as I do, I'll send you a pic. &nbsp;Go with really good twelves and a real nice amp or you going to kick yourself in the ass. &nbsp;If you want the best possible sound out of the speakers you buy. &nbsp;Then get the speaker box built to the speakers specs. &nbsp;If you do it right, you wont regret it. &nbsp;

[drifterx]

hmm.... i dont think i will go with 1 12&quot; cuz then it doesnt look as impressive... i am going for style, sound, and cost....
also i am sick of ppl saying their system sounds louder from outside cuz the 240sx holds in the sound so well.....
unlike the hondas.....

u cant mix sizes of the subs right? cuz then they wont sound right?
i might get 2 12&quot;s

[Sws681]

Thats right, You CAN'T mix different sub sizes because they have different response times. Result: horrible sound. &nbsp;You could put one twelve where the spare tire is. &nbsp;It will require some time and skill, but can be done. &nbsp; I don't know how much you want to spend. &nbsp;Tell me and I'll try to help you out.

[rabbit23]

a friend of mine has a nakimichi (sp?) deck, that thing is crap, it has broken more times than i can remember. nakimichi used to be the shit about 10 years ago, not anymore. i would stay away. also stay away from kenwood, i've already had my cd changer in for repairs twice. go with alpine, jvc or pioneer for a head unit. jl audio subs (i have 2 10w3's sound is incredible), precision power amps and mb quart mids and highs. just doesn't get any better than that.

[319]

Box design has a big effect towards personal preference. &nbsp;Sealed, ported, bandpass...etc. box designs all have a different sound, &nbsp;I would suggest trying different types of enclosures and subwoofer combinations at the local audio store when you make a decision. &nbsp;It is better to spend the extra cash on higher end speakers, something like the 10w6's. &nbsp;Dual 6ohm voice coils, so you can wire three into a 4ohm load that most amps will easily handle in mono. &nbsp;Just get a big enough amp. &nbsp;Or take a look at the L7 series kicker subz. &nbsp;

[bing]

actually my system sounds way better inside the car, i got good highs and real deep bass,

it sounds okay outside the car but who cares...

sure i want people to shake a bit from bass, but i'll keep the treats for myself

[thewholefnshow]

I was thinking about something, Since there is a full bench in back, but there is only 2 real places to sit, I want to cut the center part of the seat, and make 2 subs flush in the center seat. I was wondering if anyone has ever seen this or thought of doing so. I would put 2 10's I think....

And I think 2 10's (good ones) is a ton of power. Unless you go all out and get the new ATX thunder 8000 or whatever it is called, it has like a 10 pound magnet on the back and is one of the sickest things I have ever seen.

[rabbit23]

i am actually thinking of removing my back seat completely and custom installing my 10's back there. also for added security since our trunks are pretty flimsy. plus i'd be able to put a spare tire back in the trunk. also if i ever decided to put a nitrous tank in the back i could custom make something back there and make it look tight.

[319]

If your really keen you could put a ten behind the panels next to the rear seats....very stealthy.

[misnomer]

I've seen a setup with subs in the panels on other sides of the bench. Very nice, I was gonna try it myself, but I only have one sub and don't see the need for more :-)