View Full Version : got the car now gimme some ideas!
sr20det240pa
04-14-2004, 07:26 AM
I bought this 1991 240 for $250. I'm just looking for some suggestions. This car actually has a trunk most styles I see around here are just fastbacks. I see a few on this site but not many so maybe you guys have some better style ideas for me. Heres future plans
sr20 swap
300zx rims
s14 front end swap
300zx brakes
FMI
TheTimanator
04-14-2004, 07:44 AM
What you have is a coupe. There are definatley less coupes than fastbacks, but there still a lot of them out there. Are you planning on swapping in a 5 speed or staying auto? As far as suggestions, do some suspension work asap. I did my swap first and some other things and now I wish I would have started with suspension :duh:
Zemus
04-14-2004, 07:47 AM
Well you need a motor first, before he needs to worry about any suspention. Get a stock motor, look around on the forums, find a nice 95+ motor, swap her in. And then ungrade suspention, then upgrade power and drive train, then you do brakes.
NervGS
04-14-2004, 07:51 AM
Swap a 4AG!!! Everyone will be doing it soon.
-glenn
TheTimanator
04-14-2004, 08:50 AM
Well you need a motor first, before he needs to worry about any suspention. Get a stock motor, look around on the forums, find a nice 95+ motor, swap her in. And then ungrade suspention, then upgrade power and drive train, then you do brakes.
yeah, thats what I meant. But if then engine is out, I think it would be a waste of time and money to swap in a stock motor and then swap out a year later or whenever. Just leave the SR stock, don't turn up the boost or anything and learn on that...
s14falcon
04-14-2004, 09:02 AM
Just chill here alot and look around and you will get ideas. Your mind will change a lot too once you see different things. I wouldnt bother with 300zx wheels, as they are 5 lug, and if you spend the mondy to swap to 5 lug, then you might as well get some nice looking wheels. i never really liked the s14 front on s13, but thats all personal tastes. You'll see that a lot of people here will tell you to do suspension first, but really, it all depends on what you will be using the car for.
sr20det240pa
04-14-2004, 10:40 AM
The Ka is on the ground next to it, the guy said he drove it home to that spot, but it was ticking real bad and had planned to do a sr20 swap but ran out of money. I am getting the engine too. Also the parts for manual conversion came with the car too. I got alot of shit for $250 lucky me. Hmm didn't know about the 4/5 lug contradiction. I found a nice set for $300. Have to think about that. I was looking into suspension kits on enjuku racing, but I wasn't sure what was best. I guess I'll just have to read up some more, thanks for the input. By the way what engine is a 4AG? Also I am getting the swap done at www.hybridynamics.com, just thought I'd throw a shot out. They built two 240's so far, one ran 11.6 1/4mile and the other 11.9. That was last year, and the track opens this weekend can't wait to see what the times are for this year. Anyways check em out. Thanks guys/gals last time i was on here I got my head ripped off for saying newbie....I guess thats like cussing in kindergarten. :D
sr20det240pa
04-14-2004, 10:50 AM
nevermind....ae86....4ag can stay in the toyota...did you know toyota works with chevy over there...cavyqueers over there are toyota...not really into the TRD parts = turd = shit....supra maybe...
nokeone
04-14-2004, 10:55 AM
drag racing sucks...
4AG is the corolla (ae86) motor..lol..don't listen to them...
do not swap an s14 front end on..that is just lame and expensive for no reason...if anything do the silvia front end...or keep it onevia..
don't waste time putting a ticking stock KA back in the car...go straight for SR...since you got such a good deal on the shell it's the best way to go...i would also prolly just have hybrid dynamics do the 5 spd swap when they install the motor for you...should be easy for them since they will be doing all the tranny work anyway...i guess you could get the pedals and such done to save them time and yourself money...
5 lug swap is required to run any nicer wheels...otherwise you are stuck with older, usually poor sized and offset, wheels in 4 lug...nice ones can be found in 16in if you look hard enough and are willing to shell out some cash...but it's easy enough to get the rear hubs from a 300zx from a junkyard for cheap...fronts are most costly...
for suspension...get something simple and functional like Tein HE's..they are good coils with nice rates, decent damper, camber adjustment, etc for a relatively good price...of course there are endless options out there for suspension...
pick up a used VLSD for 300$ or so and have some fun with it...
as you decide what path you want to take as far as road racing, drag racing, drifting, autoX, or somethin else you will be able to get more parts which suit your needs and your goals...
good luck..
nokeone
04-14-2004, 10:57 AM
not really into the TRD parts = turd = shit....supra maybe...
don't be close minded and stupid...
TRD is very high quality, very nice parts...there are many TRD tuned cars which will rape you a new one in all aspects of motoring...
:rolleyes:
sr20det240pa
04-14-2004, 12:04 PM
cool that was alot of info thanks. i am planning on drag racing/street racing and maybe some drifting, i'm from pittsburgh area, we don't really do autox and all that, northern areas have drift tracks, but we just street race around here and go to the track. Bunch of hicks haha. Example....trans am, raised up pick up, vs imports...haha...I may be confused on a s14 front end? I thought that was a silvia front end. Thats what I want. I don't like the flip up lights, sure its kindda cool but I like the JDM look.
nokeone
04-14-2004, 12:11 PM
yeah you mean silvia front, S13, get brick lights...non-projectors..much hotter...s14 is the other body style...95-98 here in the states...
check out some of the picture threads for ideas..:)
if you want anything specific just ask...people have pics of everything on here...lol
s14falcon
04-14-2004, 12:15 PM
Ok, ill show you some pics of front ends. This is a zenki s14(95-96)http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid93/p52229a4e85173316623ff097f49aa5f5/fa45f692.jpg
This is a kouki s14(97-98)http://images.cardomain.com/member_img_a/194000-194999/194060_45_full.jpg
This is an s13 silvia front, maybe what you were thinking of, its much more common than either s14 front on an s13.http://www.zilvia.net/f/attachment.php?attachmentid=6514
And then theres ths s15, or strawberry front.
nightwalker
04-14-2004, 01:49 PM
do what ever you want with your car. It's your money. Fuck what everyone else thinks. If you want some performance related upgrades, do a search.
JDM K's
04-14-2004, 06:18 PM
I started out with a basic 240sx just like yours and have done 5sp swap, SR, 5lug, VLSD, Silvia front, 300zx breaks and etc. Anyway my page is http://members.cardomain.com/silviak
By the way your car is either a '89 or '90 model because your car has a pig nose.
Chernobyl
04-14-2004, 08:01 PM
Ideas.. hmm
put a vg30et in it.
and "mo lowa, mo camba"
sleep
04-14-2004, 08:17 PM
By the way your car is either a '89 or '90 model because your car has a pig nose.
cant believe no one else saw that........
MakotoS13
04-14-2004, 08:19 PM
if you need an idea i recommend you sell it... to me... 500 cash...
for real though... you shouldn't ask for style advice, that makes it seem like you're jumping on a bandwagon.
put a motor in it and drive the hoe :)
sr20det240pa
04-14-2004, 09:53 PM
i dunno i was told it was an 91, is that a problem for a swap or is it still pretty straight forward?
sykikchimp
04-14-2004, 09:59 PM
unless someone put the ol;der bumper on it.. (unlikely)
What does the Tach redline at?
TougeRacing
04-14-2004, 10:01 PM
i thought only 1989 models had pig nose bumpers..hmmm anyone wanna confirm this or re-enlighten me?
SilviaDriver
04-14-2004, 10:05 PM
street racing are for girls.
89-90s had pignose. both 90 s13s out in my driveway has pig nose
sr20det240pa
04-14-2004, 10:09 PM
i'm not sure what it redlines at, I only went to check if it was in decent shape at this guys house then bought it, i still gotta tow it home. I know it has heads up speedometer on the windshield?
TheTimanator
04-14-2004, 10:12 PM
i dunno i was told it was an 91, is that a problem for a swap or is it still pretty straight forward? Yeah, it's pretty much the same deal. The only difference (that I can think of right now) is the power steering. Do some research on it if you want pwr steering. I just did without it and don't think it's worth the trouble.
EDIT: remembered the speedo. You have to replace it with a DOHC speedo (91-94) or the SR factory speedo. I'm not sure about HUD, maybe the same thing....
sr20det240pa
04-14-2004, 10:16 PM
and i dunno what ur thinking about street racing but its not like fast and furious. more like bad boys 2 chase scene in and out of traffic....I get in this same argument with my cousin in florida he does autox...which is great but i can do that on the typical roads we have here anytime i want i don't have to be at a track. There fore its something different then draggin red light to red light. Here since we have that autox luxery we tend to want to street race or drag cuz we can't really do that all that much on the weird ass curved roads around here.
TheTimanator
04-14-2004, 10:22 PM
i'm not sure what it redlines at, I only went to check if it was in decent shape at this guys house then bought it, i still gotta tow it home. I know it has heads up speedometer on the windshield?Although it could be a different bumper...the carpet is out of an 89-90. Also I've never seen those hubcaps on a 91+. Then again I've never seen factory hubcaps on a 91-94. Anyway, next time you buy a car you should look at a little closer. But for $250...who cares. Lucky for you zenki (89-90) and chuki (91-94) aren't all that different...
Street Racing...especially in traffic like you said, is for morons who don't care about others safety let alone there own
Salty_X
04-14-2004, 10:30 PM
Although it could be a different bumper...the carpet is out of an 89-90.
Yep. The seats are zenki ones as well.
sr20det240pa
04-14-2004, 10:32 PM
i bought the car from people i trust when it comes to cars, no one really knows anything about nissans around here haha. Only a few people whom I really don't talk to. The basic knowledge is here, just not like carpets, bumpers, etc...sr20 in a 240 = sick is about all i hear haha. I have no help. But thanks guys. I am getting some of this lingo haha. Never thought there was so much to just one car.
SilviaDriver
04-14-2004, 10:36 PM
and i dunno what ur thinking about street racing but its not like fast and furious. more like bad boys 2 chase scene in and out of traffic....I get in this same argument with my cousin in florida he does autox...which is great but i can do that on the typical roads we have here anytime i want i don't have to be at a track. There fore its something different then draggin red light to red light. Here since we have that autox luxery we tend to want to street race or drag cuz we can't really do that all that much on the weird ass curved roads around here.
it doesnt matter wat kind of street racing it is. street racing is stupid.
you think street racing more like "bad boys 2" where u swerve in and of traffic is BETTER/SAFER!?!?!? thats even MORE stupid!
im glad u get into an argument with ur cousin bout this all the time. y? becuz hez right.
do u really still think doing autoX stuff on the street is safer??? it doesnt matter if u dont need to go on a track to do it or not. doing it on the street is plain stupid.
sr20 in a 240 = sick is about all i hear haha
*sigh*
sr20det240pa
04-14-2004, 10:46 PM
i know its stupid....i guess thats why i do it. Plus the fact I like to piss people off, and I have a bad case of road rage...maybe when i lost my license awhile back I shoulda never got it back...
celerrime
04-14-2004, 11:17 PM
i know its stupid....i guess thats why i do it. Plus the fact I like to piss people off, and I have a bad case of road rage...maybe when i lost my license awhile back I shoulda never got it back...
It's one thing to just piss people off but it's another to put innocent peoples lives at danger. :nono: Grow up.
240Driver39
04-14-2004, 11:47 PM
where bout in pa are u? seems like u need a lil guidance haha, some good guys in pa round where i live
SilviaBoston
04-14-2004, 11:49 PM
You got your self a 89-90 240sx bro not a 91 look at the pig nose, seat w/o head rest and the steering wheel...someone lied to you...i say go an get some of your money back...:hahano:
FRpilot
04-15-2004, 01:12 AM
you think street racing more like "bad boys 2" where u swerve in and of traffic is BETTER/SAFER!?!?!? thats even MORE stupid!
*sigh*
what you are explaining is toky highway battle. keep it on the ps2 or dreamcast. LoL. street racing is not a crime. hahaha stupid sro slogan. yea street racing is dumb. race at the track.
sr20det240pa
04-15-2004, 08:30 AM
i'm 30 miles south of pittsburgh off the turnpike, most guys just have hondas around here. Only see like 2 or 3 240's, and they don't come around much. :-/ ...i don't really care what year the car is, as long as I can get a sr20 in it. I wasn't looking for something specific just "something" to start with.
NervGS
04-15-2004, 10:45 AM
HAAHAHAHAHA.
Man, comparing racing to a fucking movie chase scene is one of the greatest comparisons I've ever heard... If thats the case, I want to drive up so I can blow up cars and shit, I'm sure that'd make Jerry Bruckheimer and Michael Bay happy, and also have Don Simpson rolling in his grave (literally).
This is awesome. First you got people wanting to be like Paul Walker, now it's like a Bruckheimer film, whats next?
-glenn
MakotoS13
04-15-2004, 10:58 AM
i know its stupid....i guess thats why i do it. Plus the fact I like to piss people off, and I have a bad case of road rage...maybe when i lost my license awhile back I shoulda never got it back...
do me a favor and lay under the next truck that you happen to see backing up. you are correct. if this is an accurate representation of you i must assume that you're one of these retards that gets people killed because of some paul walker wannabee fetish.
my adivce:
sell your car before you hurt it or yourself.
edit: i'd like to clarify that i'd rather you hurt yourself before the car. i've seen too many good cars get fouled by morons owning them... sigh
NervGS
04-15-2004, 11:14 AM
Thanks guys/gals last time i was on here I got my head ripped off for saying newbie....
Here are some suggestions.
1. Maybe you should learn to drive the car before doing all these modifications.
2. Maybe you should learn about the car in general.
From what I understand you're presenting yourself as (a newbie, nothing bad), it seems as if you have very little knowledge of the car, skills behind the wheel, and ZERO common sense.
-glenn
rrobe99999
04-15-2004, 11:32 AM
Here are some suggestions.
1. Maybe you should learn to drive the car before doing all these modifications.
2. Maybe you should learn about the car in general.
From what I understand you're presenting yourself as (a newbie, nothing bad), it seems as if you have very little knowledge of the car, skills behind the wheel, and ZERO common sense.
-glenn
I'll stick up for the newbie:
1.) The car cannot be driven without modifications (like an engine).
2.) That's what he's trying to do by posting on this forum.
NervGS
04-15-2004, 11:56 AM
I'll stick up for the newbie:
1.) The car cannot be driven without modifications (like an engine).
2.) That's what he's trying to do by posting on this forum.
1. You're kidding me right? Any car can be driven without modifications, it's when you come to that limit and your need for more exceeds of what the car is capable of in stock trim is when you start modifying. Having a stock car and learning to drive to its limits is in my opinion the best way to learn how the car is.
2. That was quite ignorant of me to say, but something like this:
>>sr20 in a 240 = sick
Makes me think otherwise. First thing when newbs hear 240 they think of a SR.
-glenn
rrobe99999
04-15-2004, 01:28 PM
1. You're kidding me right? Any car can be driven without modifications, it's when you come to that limit and your need for more exceeds of what the car is capable of in stock trim is when you start modifying. Having a stock car and learning to drive to its limits is in my opinion the best way to learn how the car is.
-glenn
1. I'm serious. The car has no engine. He must perform that mod B4 he can drive it.
sr20det240pa
04-16-2004, 09:14 AM
wow....i've stirred some shit in this forum lol. Just so you guys know I say stuff to get you guys all wound up cuz your all quick to shoot off and go through the roof, i think thats the most amusing thing about this forum....I'm actually a very good driver, i got a speeding ticket in a minivan at an incorrect radar time...come on give me a break, and as for driving in traffic...A) its not crowded...B) we usually slow down if it is....c) usually we wait for an open part of the road and just do a roll......You guys are correct I know nothing really about this car at all. Just trying to learn and have something different and something I can be proud of that is done right. Theres only one place that does swaps near me and they are cocky about thier work, they are the only ones that know about JDM shit and if u don't let them put it in might as well start calling japan. I want to learn as much as I can that way i don't have to deal with them, and i'd like to learn and put the engine in myself. I have a grandfather who just retired from being a mechanic after 50 years and my father built a racecar. So I am dumb but they know the basics. I just want to learn shit myself so I can be proud and have a sweet product that turns heads in the end. I look to you guys as the pros as i look to my friends that work for honda and honda performance that know shit about thier cars.
aznpoopy
04-16-2004, 11:00 AM
hmm.. dont any assumptions on a public forum. there are plenty of people who dont know shit about their cars (like me w00t). seriously though, here's what you should do:
1. find a ka24de and put it in the car. do it yourself (great learning exp. drive the damn car. you said ur dad was a mech? he should be able to help u with this.
2. learn about all the basic systems of the car. learn how everything works. get a service manual; check places like howstuffworks.com.
3. read about modification options. zilvia had a review section that was great at least for a listing of available mods. don't know if its up right now
4. track the car, learn how to race.
5. repair/upgrade shit as it breaks or you get good enough to need better shit.
good luck and have fun. importfanatix.com for a forum of east coast 240sx'rs.
sr20det240pa
04-16-2004, 12:25 PM
no KA waste of money, i can put an engine in no problem its the wiring, thats the bitch but I gotta ACE from ITT whose gonna do the wiring for me, and he also does a few nifty things with the ECU's ; ) The car came with a chiltons too, might help with the wiring but the engine part will be useless due to me getting an sr20. I've put on turbo kits, and done swaps on hondas, so i know the general idea. Thanks for the heads up tho
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