PBM Comps NOW LOW AT ALL WTF?!

[jeremyuhh]

UPDATE: i removed BOTH collars and added about 1 turn of preload this morning on each front coilover and i am no where near how i was with my stance gr+ pro (pictured below on my red coupe) im at 0 camber and i dont even rub. yes, no rubbing at all. i thought PBMs had "FAMOUS Super low ride height ability" as quoted straight off their site.

tons of preload to where i need frim grip with 2 hands and the wheel off to turn the spring
both collars removed
completely maxed out
0 fucking camber
not even covering or touching tire.
and i can drive with no rubbing issues. my sidewalls should be demolished by now
Before it settled:
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l292/willbreakforrice/DE25A309-C025-4FC3-89C4-C07692FFFDD8-346-0000002B5ECBF88E_zps1057c9b6.jpg

After it settled:
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l292/willbreakforrice/no-collars-not-low_zps6d037172.jpg


when i had both collars on, 0 preload, maxed out low. nasty gap:
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l292/willbreakforrice/IMG_2539_zps72b2c3de.jpg

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i have pbm comp coils, maxed out fronts, collars still there, and im not even touching tire. theres at least half an inch of wheel gap still. i thought PBMs were supposed to go suuuuper low without removing collars.

specs:
pbm comp coils. 10k front spring rate. 0 preload. maxed out. 2 collars on.
17x9.5 +15 battles on 205/40R17.
0 camber & 0.9 toe from running stock wheels

wtf is going on?

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l292/willbreakforrice/IMG_2528_zps020e28e0.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l292/willbreakforrice/asdfa_zps5fbd8aa1.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l292/willbreakforrice/E6C3034D-5D6E-4D47-9EF9-72FE600D5825-9176-000006AEA898CE3B_zps2b2c0845.jpg

i had stance gr+ pro with 1 collar removed, same wheel and tire size, except +12 offset and they went alot lower:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7185/6955071915_19b4e7bdcd_c.jpg

[PureRush]

Flip the lower bracket bro

[jeremyuhh]

Flip the lower bracket bro

these are the new comp models. the lower bracket has negative camber built in. if i flip it it will become positive.

http://www.gtfactory.jp/cms/e107_files/public/1308809126_2_FT8306_dsc02535.jpg

flipping the lower bracket was for the older models i believe.

[VENICE_DRIFT]

Really I'm tucking 18s in the front with PBM comps on my s14 and my s13 has the old comps and I'm half way down the tire with a 205/45/17 on a 9" no collars removed?

[om3ga]

Any preload?

[bladetech8]

^ I know that guy.... :fruit:

[brian310]

..............................:picardfp:

[VENICE_DRIFT]

Just a little preload maybe one half turn of the collar

[jeremyuhh]

Really I'm tucking 18s in the front with PBM comps on my s14 and my s13 has the old comps and I'm half way down the tire with a 205/45/17 on a 9" no collars removed?

Yes really. I'm in disbelief.

Any preload?

Already stated. 0 preload.

..............................:picardfp:

?

Just a little preload maybe one half turn of the collar

I don't feel that will compensate for almost over a half inch of gap.

[VENICE_DRIFT]

Ill take pics tomorrow if you don't believe me and I just realized you don't have camber
Camber makes it LOOK like your cars lower because it brings the top of the wheels in torwards the fender but idk

[Wake]

Any preload?

^ I know that guy.... :fruit:

I know both those guys^^

Ill take pics tomorrow if you don't believe me and I just realized you don't have camber
Camber makes it LOOK like your cars lower because it brings the top of the wheels in torwards the fender but idk

uh what?
"it brings the top of the wheels in torwards the fender but idk"
Do you know what direction is in and what is out? and what a fender is? and what camber is?

[TheRealSy90]

Should have got Fortune Auto.

[KendallH]

Should have got Fortune Auto.

My FA's go barely just this low with one collar removed and the bracket flipped

[delado]

Should have got Fortune Auto.
Sorry but FA is terrible at going low specially in the front.

[tengo240]

your doing something wrong , im on tein winding masters and have 18's ,im tucking rim in the front,preload is your friend

i messed up trying to post this so sorry guys if it shows up 3 times

[tengo240]

and by looking at those pbm pics it looks even if you do flip the brackets it will be the same, aside from the camber obviously ,but the bracket is flat top and bottom.

[tengo240]

and lastly why wouldnt you have just removed the other two collars when they were off the car? even if your not slamming it you dont need them ...... but why buy pbm coilovers if your not gonna slam it .you bought "high end" coilovers for there performance asspects?

[jeremyuhh]

Ill take pics tomorrow if you don't believe me and I just realized you don't have camber
Camber makes it LOOK like your cars lower because it brings the top of the wheels in torwards the fender but idk

camber doesnt matter, that wont fix the height of the coilover.

your doing something wrong , im on tein winding masters and have 18's ,im tucking rim in the front,preload is your friend

i messed up trying to post this so sorry guys if it shows up 3 times

theyre installed correctly. im not new to this shit. i heard PBMs require 0 preload. if i am doing something wrong what could it be?

i guess im gonna have to remove collars but i dont think that will get me THAT low. both collars combined will give me a 1" drop at the most.

[jeremyuhh]

and lastly why wouldnt you have just removed the other two collars when they were off the car? even if your not slamming it you dont need them ...... but why buy pbm coilovers if your not gonna slam it .you bought "high end" coilovers for there performance asspects?

because i was running stock up til now. i was going to remove them anyway when i got wheels. im just surprised this is the "FAMOUS super low ride height ability" that PBM says on their site.

and yes i bought these coils for the its height capabilities and for drift.

[ZX88]

maybe you have higher spring rates in the front than you should. 12k would be a longer spring than 10k right?

[jeremyuhh]

maybe you have higher spring rates in the front than you should. 12k would be a longer spring than 10k right?

maybe? but i bought them brand new from Pbm. they should have come with 10kg/8kg. theyre 180mm in length so thats already pretty short.

[Touge_Monster]

I would contact them about this. They have pretty awesome customer service and I'm sure would be willing to help out

[jeremyuhh]

I would contact them about this. They have pretty awesome customer service and I'm sure would be willing to help out

yea i emailed them. just waiting on a response. but really though, what could it be?

[benarovi]

i have even the regulars and the fronts are maxed out with collars removed and preload up just a tad. and rear i have about an inch left. im tucking alot of 35series tire my cars super low. 10k front 8k rear. somethings wrong

[brian310]

i say you just drive the damn car and quit trying to achieve fan boy stance

[DomChan]

Maybe they gave you s14 model coilovers. I've heard of s14 coils fitting on s13, but sitting way high. Make sure they gave you the right model haha.

[zooopreme]

Maybe they gave you s14 model coilovers. I've heard of s14 coils fitting on s13, but sitting way high. Make sure they gave you the right model haha.

If they sent him a set of S14 coilovers, the rears would have been high as well. Also, the top hat would not have lined up with the strut towers of the S13.

[Matej]

First of all, your tires are tiny. Switch to 205/45.

After that, contact MAX and confirm that you have the correct part numbers. If so and if you want to keep the coilovers, your only option will be shorter springs. Maybe they will be willing to give you some sort of a deal, since you are dissatisfied. If not, get Swift Springs.

[delado]

First of all, your tires are tiny. Switch to 205/45


What in the fucks are you talking about man.

[Matej]

What in the fucks are you talking about man.
19th Century literature.

[ZX88]

19th Century literature.

yes.lol


i just got some comps like two days ago. I hope im not in the same boat.

[MidnightKouki]

My FA's go barely just this low with one collar removed and the bracket flipped

If it's a problem i'd go for the swift springs. my FA's w/swifts are almost tucking rim on 18's and i no joke have almost 2 inches of thread left between collars. all collars still installed

[jeremyuhh]

Maybe they gave you s14 model coilovers. I've heard of s14 coils fitting on s13, but sitting way high. Make sure they gave you the right model haha.

If they sent him a set of S14 coilovers, the rears would have been high as well. Also, the top hat would not have lined up with the strut towers of the S13.

this. im pretty sure theyre s13 coilovers man, other wise they wouldnt have fit to begin with.

First of all, your tires are tiny. Switch to 205/45.

After that, contact MAX and confirm that you have the correct part numbers. If so and if you want to keep the coilovers, your only option will be shorter springs. Maybe they will be willing to give you some sort of a deal, since you are dissatisfied. If not, get Swift Springs.

first of all, do you not read? ive had the same setup on my old coupe.
second of all, sidewall of the tire has no relation to the adjustment of the coilover.

yes.lol


i just got some comps like two days ago. I hope im not in the same boat.

install them and let me know.

[Matej]

first of all, do you not read? ive had the same setup on my old coupe.
second of all, sidewall of the tire has no relation to the adjustment of the coilover.
Third of all, 205/40r17 looks tiny and stupid on an S13, and only exaggerates the wheel gap.

[jeremyuhh]

Third of all, 205/40/17 looks tiny and stupid on an S13, and only exaggerates the wheel gap.

holy fuck, why do you care so much? like i said my previous coupe had THE SAME SET UP.

do you see any wheel gap there?

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7185/6955071915_19b4e7bdcd_c.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7205/6808962070_50d344b8f3_c.jpg

[TheRealSy90]

Sorry but FA is terrible at going low specially in the front.

Really? This is with tall ass FA 12k springs.

http://www.battle-stance.com/uploads/7/9/9/7/7997978/8554838.jpg?1309599467

[xoxide]

^Just because your poorly fitting lip touches the ground doesnt mean you're low. haha


I will vouch (like always) for Fortune products though. Im about 3/4 inch away from tucking 17's up front and still have thread left on the coil to go lower. All collars still in tact, mounts upright.

On my kouki, I have fortune gen 3's, and they are maxed on 18's im about an inch away from tucking wheel up front, collars in tact and mounts upright..

I dont think Fortune's have a problem going low, and I have never heard someone complain about PBM's not going low. Very odd to say the least.

[corby_baby]

Are the coils brand new? You have to give them time to set. Mine are the exact same and i had the same reaction. Give it a little bit, drive around, but in the end i did have to end up removing one collar.

[theStig880]

Man that's really weird. I have the exact same coils, PBM Comps, and a similar tire size, 215-40-17 on a 9.5, and I'm waaaayyy lower than your pics. I'm tucking the front tires by half an inch and I still have another inch I could go down. Weird stuff man

[duballstar37]

1. Why does everyone want to be slammed these days? Whatever happened to functionality?

2. Why are people posting pictures of their Fortune Auto coil-over ride height? This isn't helping the OP at all.

3. Did you Stance set have helper springs? They height of the spring may have been different.

Good luck. I'm interested to see what comes of this. Maybe a defective set??? Maybe they used the wrong damper to build the front coilovers. IE. The rear strut bodies are larger and might have gotten swapped around, but this still wouldn't effect the height that much. I'm thinking the spring is wrong or they just don't go that low.

[Beas]

1. Why does everyone want to be slammed these days? Whatever happened to functionality?


functionality for what? off-roading? look at matt powers' first year in formula drift. car was on the ground competing at the highest level.



@OP sounds like something is up with the set u received. I just put Pros on and can go lower than that. PBM told me when I bought the pros that they wont go as low as the comps.

[ZX88]

Really? This is with tall ass FA 12k springs.

http://www.battle-stance.com/uploads/7/9/9/7/7997978/8554838.jpg?1309599467

you also stated you cut your front springs in the FA thread...

[shalezzz]

functionality for what? off-roading? look at matt powers' first year in formula drift. car was on the ground competing at the highest level.
competion drifting is one function, i didnt see matt powers going through a parking garage or going through a mall parking lot.

but anyways see if you can ship back just the springs and get shorter swift ones at a better spring rate

[zooopreme]

1. Why does everyone want to be slammed these days? Whatever happened to functionality?

You must be new to the S-Chassis community. You don't need to have a completely functional car to drift. There are ways to remedy the geometry that comes with slamming your car. It will limit your skill progression if you are trying to become a professional though.

functionality for what? off-roading? look at matt powers' first year in formula drift. car was on the ground competing at the highest level.

Nut hugging a little too much here. Is Power's car still that low and on PBM coilovers at the "highest level" (whatever that means)? ...exactly.

you also stated you cut your front springs in the FA thread...

It was for the rears. Not the fronts. Still stupid though.

[yomisiu]

1. Why does everyone want to be slammed these days? Whatever happened to functionality?


the lower a japanese sports car, the better.

want a functional car? get a mini-van.

[wh0aitznic0]

Something's definitely wrong. My car on PBM Comps for reference.

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w95/wh0aitznic0/F9859D6F-12CD-44DD-B067-DEB5D1314F6D-1189-0000006AF17BAA0A_zpsc3a30b11.jpg

[jeremyuhh]

Are the coils brand new? You have to give them time to set. Mine are the exact same and i had the same reaction. Give it a little bit, drive around, but in the end i did have to end up removing one collar.

yea 5 months old. but they should be able to go low low without having to settle. theyre PBMs. thats why i bought them.

Man that's really weird. I have the exact same coils, PBM Comps, and a similar tire size, 215-40-17 on a 9.5, and I'm waaaayyy lower than your pics. I'm tucking the front tires by half an inch and I still have another inch I could go down. Weird stuff man

exactly. i want to know why.

1. Why does everyone want to be slammed these days? Whatever happened to functionality?

2. Why are people posting pictures of their Fortune Auto coil-over ride height? This isn't helping the OP at all.

3. Did you Stance set have helper springs? They height of the spring may have been different.

Good luck. I'm interested to see what comes of this. Maybe a defective set??? Maybe they used the wrong damper to build the front coilovers. IE. The rear strut bodies are larger and might have gotten swapped around, but this still wouldn't effect the height that much. I'm thinking the spring is wrong or they just don't go that low.

defective, maybe. its the only other explanation. or my car is magical and posses anti low powers. the spring isnt wrong. i measured it, it comes out to 180mm like its supposed to.

functionality for what? off-roading? look at matt powers' first year in formula drift. car was on the ground competing at the highest level.



@OP sounds like something is up with the set u received. I just put Pros on and can go lower than that. PBM told me when I bought the pros that they wont go as low as the comps.

yes, im coming to believe that my set is some what defective.

competion drifting is one function, i didnt see matt powers going through a parking garage or going through a mall parking lot.

but anyways see if you can ship back just the springs and get shorter swift ones at a better spring rate

yea, waiting for a reply from PBM.

Something's definitely wrong. My car on PBM Comps for reference.

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w95/wh0aitznic0/F9859D6F-12CD-44DD-B067-DEB5D1314F6D-1189-0000006AF17BAA0A_zpsc3a30b11.jpg

yes. what are you coilover specs? spring rates, preload, collars, blah blah.

that what i was trying to achieve. ive done it with my stance gr+ pro. i know these coils are supposed to give me the ride height you have.

[wh0aitznic0]

yes. what are you coilover specs? spring rates, preload, collars, blah blah.

that what i was trying to achieve. ive done it with my stance gr+ pro. i know these coils are supposed to give me the ride height you have.

Out the box 10/8 KG Comps (the ones with orange springs), collar just keeping the spring in place so 0 preload, 2 collars removed.

I was playing with the preload when I first got them (3 years ago) and I was able to tuck rim in the front with my 17s. Definitely not driveable like that though so I just settled for this height.

[yzrider450f]

Really? This is with tall ass FA 12k springs.

please, please do something with that fender

[yetijeff]

Maybe flip mounts put them on opposite side?

[TheRealSy90]

^Just because your poorly fitting lip touches the ground doesnt mean you're low. haha

Don't look at the fucking lip how about the fender to ground distance...

you also stated you cut your front springs in the FA thread...

No I did not. I cut the rear springs so I could tuck 17's.

Keep in mind my car is lower than that red one with the body kit...

[TheRealSy90]

yes. what are you coilover specs? spring rates, preload, collars, blah blah.

that what i was trying to achieve. ive done it with my stance gr+ pro. i know these coils are supposed to give me the ride height you have.

So do you have the same wheel and tire specs and body kit as him to be expecting the same result?

[xoxide]

Don't look at the fucking lip how about the fender to ground distance...

Keep in mind my car is lower than that red one with the body kit...

That didnt help your case any. Still not impressive

If fender gap is how you measure ride height now days, then by your law... Your car is still higher than wh0aitznic0's car. And 1000 times shittier looking.

[yzrider450f]

Don't look at the fucking lip how about the fender to ground distance...


So do you have the same wheel and tire specs and body kit as him to be expecting the same result?


stop talking

[future]

Didn't your car get stolen?

[Schwiegz]

stop talking

Said the guy with 36 posts.

[Marcus]

the lower a japanese sports car, the better.

want a functional car? get a mini-van.


HAHA. THIS!!!
(i am only interested in drifting/driving something that looks fucking cool as shit)

to op, good luck. anyone over there at pbm will gladly help you. my coils allowed me to tuck a 225/35-17. that tire has a stupid small OD. im sure there is a solution to this problem.

[om3ga]

Preload them around 10-20mm and lower it that amount all around.

Third of all, 205/40r17 looks tiny and stupid on an S13, and only exaggerates the wheel gap.

235/40/17 are best

[Tempo]

How about you contact PBM about this problem first instead of making a giant shitstorm thread on zilvia. :facepalm:

[jeremyuhh]

How about you contact PBM about this problem first instead of making a giant shitstorm thread on zilvia. :facepalm:

I already did. I was wondering if there was a common solution and an immediate answer from an experienced member on here. Sorry I can't control people's responses

[TheRealSy90]

Cut your springs.

[1gr8bar10der]

Cut your springs.

I hope you're joking...

[EvoVIII808]

im thinking you may have the wrong spring rate. My comps go plenty low on my 18x9s I can tuck in the front with no problem. the only other thing i can think of is to move the collars to the bottom.

[SaVAgES14]

I read this thread yesterday and it had me nervous but just got done installing my pro's and was satisfied with ride height so far. I haven't touched the camber settings out the box. The tires are already starting to tuck under the fender.
18x9.5 +12 with 235/40/18 falken ziex 912's
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c301/Marcssj4/0ac29843-d5c5-437d-9f48-81a94c0a52d4_zps99d1e2a8.jpg http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c301/Marcssj4/6b84770f-233a-4ae8-959c-bc9b181f54bc_zps4e903f52.jpg
Could there be something binding up with the rest of the front suspension? maybe the sway bar?

[zooopreme]

^Hey buddy, pros =/= comps. Comps are what OP has, you have a different model.

[jeremyuhh]

I read this thread yesterday and it had me nervous but just got done installing my pro's and was satisfied with ride height so far. I haven't touched the camber settings out the box. The tires are already starting to tuck under the fender.
18x9.5 +12 with 235/40/18 falken ziex 912's
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c301/Marcssj4/0ac29843-d5c5-437d-9f48-81a94c0a52d4_zps99d1e2a8.jpg http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c301/Marcssj4/6b84770f-233a-4ae8-959c-bc9b181f54bc_zps4e903f52.jpg
Could there be something binding up with the rest of the front suspension? maybe the sway bar?

Nah can't be the swaybar. As I said many times my stance gr+ pro went lower than this with 1 collar off. And I have the comps. Not the pros.

[240drifter1]

PBM comps. All collers gone, 205-40-17

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p61/kornothekob/268104_10150225619091767_589861766_7734804_1554559 _n.jpg

[xoxide]

Nah can't be the swaybar. As I said many times my stance gr+ pro went lower than this with 1 collar off. And I have the comps. Not the pros.
Out of curiosity, why did you get rid of your GR+ pro's for the PBM's? Sounds like you were pretty happy with the stance's.

[jeremyuhh]

Out of curiosity, why did you get rid of your GR+ pro's for the PBM's? Sounds like you were pretty happy with the stance's.

I didnt get rid of them. My red coupe with stances got stolen and stripped.

I bought PBMs for my next car cause I heard and even saw that they could go low low without removing collars, the price, and drift performace

[SaVAgES14]

^Hey buddy, pros =/= comps. Comps are what OP has, you have a different model.

So your saying there's that big of a difference between the two as far as the length of the coilover and its ride height adjustability....please. Anyway OP good luck with figuring it out.

[zooopreme]

So your saying there's that big of a difference between the two as far as the length of the coilover and its ride height adjustability....please.

Actually, yes. Several people have pointed to the idea of comps and pros being different period-- where pros go lower.

To add on to that idea, comps and pros use different dampers and are not interchangeable.

http://www.gtfactory.jp/cms/e107_files/public/1353972018_2_FT10580_dsc04409.jpg

Relax, smart guy. You're wrong.

[SaVAgES14]

Actually, yes. Several people have pointed to the idea of comps and pros being different period-- where pros go lower.

To add on to that idea, comps and pros use different dampers and are not interchangeable.

http://www.gtfactory.jp/cms/e107_files/public/1353972018_2_FT10580_dsc04409.jpg

Relax, smart guy. You're wrong.

Hmm, I dont remember mentioning anything about the obvious difference in the dampening capabilities between the two since that would'nt be pertaining to the ride height. Mainly would be affecting the jounce and rebound of the shock. Also are you trying to use that pic from the website as a way to compare the pro's and comp's??? Please tell me this is a joke because that pic shows the fronts and the REARS!

[zooopreme]

Also are you trying to use that pic from the website as a way to compare the pro's and comp's??? Please tell me this is a joke because that pic shows the fronts and the REARS!

You're probably right. I don't have comps to compare or take apart. I was under the assumption (without a label/caption for their photo on their website), that these were a comp vs pro damper comparison.

I never mentioned "damping capabilities pertaining to ride height" either. I said their dampers are not interchangeable which could support the idea of comps not going as low as pros.

Because of the picture I posted, I was under the assumption that the dampers used for pros were shorter thus confirming those that say that comps do not go as low as their pros which could have been attributed to OP's low woes.

[thefro526]

FWIW, camber does have an effect on 'real' ride height (car from ground) and perceived ride height (usually wheel to tire.)

If you look at the geometry of S-Chassis front suspension, you'll see that as you dial in negative camber, you're moving the wheel lip 'up' towards the fender while also moving it 'in' towards the strut in a radius with the ball joint at the center. Depending on the wheel specs the exact end result will change a bit, but the TLDR is that camber does have an effect on ride height.

(Pretty sure OP said something about camber not changing ride height. If he and/or someone else didn't then please ignore me, I'm tired.)

[pacotaco345]

^^ Both front and rear camber have an affect on ride height, but only rear camber affects how much tire you tuck. Anyways, here's my car on gen 2 (i think) comps, all collars still in place and 0 preload. I tuck about a half inch of tire up front. (Please forgive my wrong color red back bumper...)

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e392/pacotaco345/0C296112-B02C-4EF6-8BE5-AF04534E880D-863-0000005D4C672703_zpsd36c3e81.jpg

[jeremyuhh]

^^ Both front and rear camber have an affect on ride height, but only rear camber affects how much tire you tuck. Anyways, here's my car on gen 2 (i think) comps, all collars still in place and 0 preload. I tuck about a half inch of tire up front. (Please forgive my wrong color red back bumper...)

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e392/pacotaco345/0C296112-B02C-4EF6-8BE5-AF04534E880D-863-0000005D4C672703_zpsd36c3e81.jpg

so strange. i dont get why my coils cant do this.

for those of you who have competition coilovers, what are your spring lengths?

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l292/willbreakforrice/180mm_zps2591f03f.jpg

i measured 7" from top to bottom of the spring. with a lot of preload. to the point where i need 2 hands and firm grip with the wheel off to slightly move it.

[pacotaco345]

so strange. i dont get why my coils cant do this.

for those of you who have competition coilovers, what are your spring lengths?

i measured 7" from top to bottom of the spring. with a lot of preload. to the point where i need 2 hands and firm grip with the wheel off to slightly move it.

I'll check my spring length this week, maybe they just sent the wrong springs? does it feel stiffer/softer than PBMs normally do?

[jeremyuhh]

I'll check my spring length this week, maybe they just sent the wrong springs? does it feel stiffer/softer than PBMs normally do?

i wouldnt know, these are my first set of PBM coils. it feels okay to me. a little stiffer than my stance coils which were 8kg/6kg but i wouldnt know. nice coupe by the way.

[rwtf]

I'm interested in what they have to say...i'm gonna be ordering some max comp pros soon.

[Future_gohan]

I've had 2 different sets of PBM coilovers, and neither set has springs that big, From your pic mine was around 6" and even the ones on my z go the whole way up the dampener without preload i only have a few threads left from the top.

I think something happened and you should contact PBM about this directly they're very good with customer support and are even on zilvia you could find them and send them a PM. Good luck on getting it fixed i'm sure it'll get figured out.

[jeremyuhh]

I'm interested in what they have to say...i'm gonna be ordering some max comp pros soon.

Comp pros don't exist. Either you're getting comps or pros lol

I've had 2 different sets of PBM coilovers, and neither set has springs that big, From your pic mine was around 6" and even the ones on my z go the whole way up the dampener without preload i only have a few threads left from the top.

I think something happened and you should contact PBM about this directly they're very good with customer support and are even on zilvia you could find them and send them a PM. Good luck on getting it fixed i'm sure it'll get figured out.

Another reason why I'm so shocked as to why this particular set isn't allowing me to "properly" get low. Haha

And thanks, I hope to hear from them tomorrow

[bladetech8]

Hey OP! Please do not forget to bend/pound flat those chassis seams in your front wheel wells else you can kiss your tires good BYE! :hs:

[jeremyuhh]

Hey OP! Please do not forget to bend/pound flat those chassis seams in your front wheel wells else you can kiss your tires good BYE! :hs:

lol, i already did. the angle makes it seem like i didnt. but once im able to go lower ill flatten them some more.

[LovetoSlide]

This thread is so full of rape.

[dontxploitme]

215/40 17x9 -5 (with adapter) -3* of camber 2 collars removed and a small amount or preload. I also have the newest model of pbm comps. Something is wrong with yours.

http://imageshack.us/a/img341/5604/fr0006.jpg

[ZX88]

7 inch spring is longer than the ones I have. mine are just under 6 inches ( rough measurement) they must have accidentally put 12k springs or a higher spring rate causing a longer spring allowing you to not go as low. Send them the info and see if in fact thier 12k springs are 7 inches long.

[thefro526]

For what it's worth, PBM's 'Super Light Linear Spring' (SLL) measures 180mm (7.08") according to their website... Don't think the springs are too long.

[dil han]

Problem is 17's with rubber bands. 17's need to have 45 sidewall or will look goofy like yours. Just get 18's or maybe 20's

[pacotaco345]

i wouldnt know, these are my first set of PBM coils. it feels okay to me. a little stiffer than my stance coils which were 8kg/6kg but i wouldnt know. nice coupe by the way.

Seems by everyone else's response its probably just the springs.. And thanks, haha I just need to take the time to actually fix my back bumper.

Problem is 17's with rubber bands. 17's need to have 45 sidewall or will look goofy like yours. Just get 18's or maybe 20's
http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p609/Pamie_Sky/BeFunky_Capturegy.jpg

[dontxploitme]

I'm not positive but I believe 12k, 10k, and 8k springs are all 180mm which is just over 7". The 6k are the only ones that are longer so it's most likely not the springs. And it's definitely not the tire size for the 80th time lol. If they're new they probably need to "settle" you should put some mileage on them and see what happens.

[jeremyuhh]

I'm not positive but I believe 12k, 10k, and 8k springs are all 180mm which is just over 7". The 6k are the only ones that are longer so it's most likely not the springs. And it's definitely not the tire size for the 80th time lol. If they're new they probably need to "settle" you should put some mileage on them and see what happens.

PBM coils should go low without having to "settle" and ive had them for 5 months. daily driving. probably has around 8500~ miles on it.

and yes their site says the springs lengths are 180mm, which is why im confused now.

[jeremyuhh]

Problem is 17's with rubber bands. 17's need to have 45 sidewall or will look goofy like yours. Just get 18's or maybe 20's

its not the fucking tire size. it amazes me that zilvia members' reading comprehension and common sense is no where to be found.

I HAD THE SAME SET UP ON MY OLD COUPE AND WAS ABLE TO COVER CLOSE TO MORE THAN HALF THE TIRE WITH 205/40 WITH JUST 1 COLLAR REMOVED.

the damn tire has nothing to do with how low the coilover can adjust. because of the problem i have, even if i had 215/45 or 205/45 my fender would barely be touching the tire

[jeremyuhh]

7 inch spring is longer than the ones I have. mine are just under 6 inches ( rough measurement) they must have accidentally put 12k springs or a higher spring rate causing a longer spring allowing you to not go as low. Send them the info and see if in fact thier 12k springs are 7 inches long.

do you have comps or pros ?

[bigs]

Are you afraid to call parts shop max or something?

Pick up the fucking phone....

[jeremyuhh]

Are you afraid to call parts shop max or something?

Pick up the fucking phone....

ive already emailed them on saturday when this happened. i havent called them because theyre close sat and sun. if they dont respond to my email, ill call them on my lunch break cause im at work. calm the fuck down.

[bc.]

Looks like you might have to be uncool for a while, sorry. But on the bright side, you probably wont dent your oil pan any time soon.

Sorry to hear you car got stolen though, that does suck.

[alexisthemovie]

When I first put mine on (brand new Comp, purchased a few weeks back), I turned everything all the way down and felt the same way. You should max out front negative camber and pull out all collars. After doing that, I was still unsatisfied with the height, but then again my car doesn't have any drivetrain installed yet.

With a new top mount hole drilled, I'm happy with the front height (lots of negative camber, as a result). I've preloaded the rears half an inch (crushed to 6.5") and it's still not low enough so I'm going to get 6" Swifts.

[jeremyuhh]

When I first put mine on (brand new Comp, purchased a few weeks back), I turned everything all the way down and felt the same way. You should max out front negative camber and pull out all collars. After doing that, I was still unsatisfied with the height, but then again my car doesn't have any drivetrain installed yet.

With a new top mount hole drilled, I'm happy with the front height (lots of negative camber, as a result). I've preloaded the rears half an inch (crushed to 6.5") and it's still not low enough so I'm going to get 6" Swifts.

ive already removed both collars and added about 1/4" maybe of preload, i wouldnt know cause the spring still measures 7" but i need 2 hands and proper grip to turn the spring.

i dont think adding negative camber will make a difference. my old coupe had -2.85 degrees of camber, 1 collar removed and was a lot lower than my current coupe.

[alexisthemovie]

ive already removed both collars and added about 1/4" maybe of preload, i wouldnt know cause the spring still measures 7" but i need 2 hands and proper grip to turn the spring.

i dont think adding negative camber will make a difference. my old coupe had -2.85 degrees of camber, 1 collar removed and was a lot lower than my current coupe.

Negative camber makes a significant difference - try it. I did not preload my front springs at all and it is now tucking rim simply from the camber (though I am on 19's).

[jeremyuhh]

Negative camber makes a significant difference - try it. I did not preload my front springs at all and it is now tucking rim simply from the camber (though I am on 19's).

ill give it a try. but i cant imagine ill be close to tucking tire from the pics i provided. theres close to an inch of gap from where the fender is and to where i want it to be, with the spring preloaded and both collars removed. but ill try it when i get home.

what im trying to achieve is this:
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l292/willbreakforrice/whatiwant_zpsf80bd690.jpg

this is the gap i have now:
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l292/willbreakforrice/gap_zps68e29d64.jpg

[jerry_beans]

Are you afraid to call parts shop max or something?

Pick up the fucking phone....

+1

msglth

[jeremyuhh]

+1

msglth

wow. did you not read my reply? and if you must know, i called twice already and no one picked up.

[denian_cellphone]

im about to pick some up for my s14, im curious to see what your problem might be.

[PeaceOnesxWai]

imo your rack is gonna be an inch off the floor running that low on 17s. If you have 18s w 35 sidewalls you would have the look you want.

[alexisthemovie]

ill give it a try. but i cant imagine ill be close to tucking tire from the pics i provided. theres close to an inch of gap from where the fender is and to where i want it to be, with the spring preloaded and both collars removed. but ill try it when i get home.

what im trying to achieve is this:
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l292/willbreakforrice/whatiwant_zpsf80bd690.jpg

this is the gap i have now:
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l292/willbreakforrice/gap_zps68e29d64.jpg

Max out camber (with the second screw moved to the middle) and you'll achieve that.

[DreEzed]

I think the look he's goin for is for the sidewalls to be gone. Either way adding camber would probably increase the gap from fender to tire.

Just run a 255/45 all around and raise it lulz... Thats what I did.

[yzrider450f]

Pretty sure neg- camber in the front has little to do with it. I just pulled all my camber out of the front and it didn't change where the fender met the tire.

And I believe I am lower.

Good luck bro!

[yzrider450f]

Not trying to be condescending, but you do have the motor/trans installed now right?

[dahveed]

Cut your springs.

Lol is this real life

[jeremyuhh]

imo your rack is gonna be an inch off the floor running that low on 17s. If you have 18s w 35 sidewalls you would have the look you want.

again, ive done this with my old coupe. ive gotten the look i wanted with 1 collar off. and yes i do realize my rack will be very close to the ground. never had a problem on my old coupe.

[jeremyuhh]

Not trying to be condescending, but you do have the motor/trans installed now right?

yes i do. ive mentioned that ive been driving on these for about 5 months now and that they dont even rub when driving...

[jeremyuhh]

Max out camber (with the second screw moved to the middle) and you'll achieve that.

ill try it when i get home.

[Tempo]

im about to pick some up for my s14, im curious to see what your problem might be.

if you're getting pbm pros, this was my ride height with the coilovers set all the way low with all 3 collars still on

http://i.imgur.com/0Op0Wy2.jpg?1

[jeremyuhh]

if you're getting pbm pros, this was my ride height with the coilovers set all the way low with all 3 collars still on



what size wheel and tire?

[Tempo]

what size wheel and tire?

17x9j+35 17x10j+20 215/45/17 all around in this pic but i was rubbing so much up front it put a hole in my wheel well :wan:, so i went down to 215/40/17's and i was quiet lower than before with the smaller sidewall and zero rub

[Casperjay]

function over form..
il trade you my set of megan tracks. my frame rails are about 1 3/4'' from the ground

[ghoti]

LOL at Megan's being more functional than PBMs

[~s14~]

Real weird man. Somethings seems weird. PBMS do go extremely low. I have them on my fc and im pretty dang low and still can keep going.

On the real though man if you need help or if they take too long to contact you to talk about it let me know. If i can help out i will. I actually live 10-15 mins from their warehouse here in San Diego. PM if I can help out, this is my dead week with nothing to do lol.

[Casperjay]

LOL at Megan's being more functional than PBMs

i never said they were. im saying its better to have function rather than form then i said my megan's were low. never did i say megan's are more functional then pbm's.
But imo megan tracks are perfectly functional, actually i (with my own eyes) have never seen pbm's on anything race related, while megan tracks on the other hand are on the majority of the pro am drift cars that i see in the midwest.

[ZX88]

i never said they were. im saying its better to have function rather than form then i said my megan's were low. never did i say megan's are more functional then pbm's.
But imo megan tracks are perfectly functional, actually i (with my own eyes) have never seen pbm's on anything race related, while megan tracks on the other hand are on the majority of the pro am drift cars that i see in the midwest.

you need to get out more.

[FaLKoN240]

Do this. Stop crying.

LRNriaSdfl4

[Casperjay]

you need to get out more.

why? lol so i can see a bunch of people over pay for coils that probably preform the same?

[Tempo]

LOL at Megan's being more functional than PBMs

he was implying he'd rather trade his megans(form) for OP's PBM's(function)...:picardfp:

i never said they were. im saying its better to have function rather than form then i said my megan's were low. never did i say megan's are more functional then pbm's.
But imo megan tracks are perfectly functional, actually i (with my own eyes) have never seen pbm's on anything race related, while megan tracks on the other hand are on the majority of the pro am drift cars that i see in the midwest.

so you've never heard of matt powers, matt field, and ryan kado?

[jeremyuhh]

Do this. Stop crying.

LRNriaSdfl4

Wow have you not read anything ? I already did that. I've known to do that if coils don't go as low as you want them. These aren't my first set of coils. I've already removed both collars and added a good amount of preload. Added some camber and its still not as low my old coupe

[corby_baby]

Im kinda with the op, not sure where this whole super low thing comes from. 1 collar removed no preload, 17's. Dosnt bother me too much since texas roads are shit and going lower makes the car almost undriveable.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b187/corbeybaby/3D591FA1-C7F3-4C5C-8C33-BAE48AFCA9A2-696-0000003F7E830FDC.jpg

[Tempo]

not sure where this whole super low thing comes from.



ohhh i dont know, maybe..

http://i.imgur.com/i3lZTdH.jpg

hopefully all goes well tomorrow and OP gets ahold of pbm, chime in and let us know afterwards op :bigok:

[corby_baby]

ohhh i dont know, maybe..

http://i.imgur.com/i3lZTdH.jpg

hopefully all goes well tomorrow and OP gets ahold of pbm, chime in and let us know afterwards op :bigok:

Ohh thank god you found that banner, exactly what i was trying to convey when posting that sentence....

[pacotaco345]

Im kinda with the op, not sure where this whole super low thing comes from. 1 collar removed no preload, 17's. Dosnt bother me too much since texas roads are shit and going lower makes the car almost undriveable.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b187/corbeybaby/3D591FA1-C7F3-4C5C-8C33-BAE48AFCA9A2-696-0000003F7E830FDC.jpg

Texas roads are not an excuse, lol I commute back and forth from DFW to So-Cal twice a year like this:

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e392/pacotaco345/1454F602-1FDD-47D3-B6AA-55E5EBC28370-2576-00000177445C7EA7_zps5372e419.jpg

Once again with all collars in tact..

[FaLKoN240]

Wow have you not read anything ? I already did that. I've known to do that if coils don't go as low as you want them. These aren't my first set of coils. I've already removed both collars and added a good amount of preload. Added some camber and its still not as low my old coupe

But you didn't do that. I still see all the collars between your spring and perch mount. Until you've done EVERYTHING you can do, (with pics) to show us you've lowered the car, you haven't.

[pacotaco345]

But you didn't do that. I still see all the collars between your spring and perch mount. Until you've done EVERYTHING you can do, (with pics) to show us you've lowered the car, you haven't.

UPDATE: i removed BOTH collars and added about 1 turn of preload this morning... bla bla

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l292/willbreakforrice/DE25A309-C025-4FC3-89C4-C07692FFFDD8-346-0000002B5ECBF88E_zps1057c9b6.jpg


I'm pretty sure he pulled the collars...

[CleanAndLegit]

he's just doing it wrong.

[jeremyuhh]

he's just doing it wrong.

yea im doing it totally wrong. i have no idea what im doing

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7205/6808962070_50d344b8f3_c.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7061/6955071855_b17beeabf0_c.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7200/6955071737_6b7344d81d_c.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7197/6808962232_16c4388f53_c.jpg

[e5s4y]

i know its not the same, but heres mine. pbm pro's maxed out in the front, can still drop a bit more in the rear, but still have all the collars in place up front. tires are 215/45/17 and 225/45/17
http://imageshack.us/a/img109/3606/photo4rl.jpg

[ayuaddict]

Get 6" springs for front. Swift, Hyperco, Eibach.

[jeremyuhh]

But you didn't do that. I still see all the collars between your spring and perch mount. Until you've done EVERYTHING you can do, (with pics) to show us you've lowered the car, you haven't.

what are you talking about? the collar that is left is the spring collar. without it the spring would have no where to sit. how are all my collars still there?

Martin from PBM and alexisthemovie told me add camber. added camber and still not where i want it to be.:

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l292/willbreakforrice/IMG_2659_zps78bf9435.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l292/willbreakforrice/IMG_2656_zpsb2ec54f7.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l292/willbreakforrice/IMG_2658_zps11dba09c.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l292/willbreakforrice/IMG_2653_zps2204d389.jpg

[jeremyuhh]

Get 6" springs for front. Swift, Hyperco, Eibach.

Thats what PBM told me as well. if the problem still persists theyll send me shorter springs.

[coty_garcia]

..............................:picardfp:

riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiight :fruit:

[Drift_FX]

measure the distance from spring seat to the top of threads, subtract that from the length of your spring, order that size spring...... no change in preload and you'll have extra ~2" of drop possible.... /endthread

[ayuaddict]

Your coilovers look to have an unusual amount of space between the camber plate/pillow ball mount and the upper spring perch. Post a close up photo of that area?

[jeremyuhh]

Your coilovers look to have an unusual amount of space between the camber plate/pillow ball mount and the upper spring perch. Post a close up photo of that area?

looks normal to me ?


http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l292/willbreakforrice/FD123EAC-0C8C-4C17-923E-244DE25A2DB8-1871-000001CDDE2EE843_zpsd6687657.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l292/willbreakforrice/AB609AE5-5E00-4E9A-96F8-5883EA4DB0EE-1871-000001CDE346A9FD_zpsfd04df24.jpg

[bigs]

So what did psm say when you called them?

[jeremyuhh]

So what did psm say when you called them?

they never gave me a real solution. they said to add camber. i did and its still not as low and where i want it to be. theyre waiting on Dan to return from japan but they at least forwarded the emails i sent them to him. they said they would get me shorter springs if its still not going low enough.

[ayuaddict]

It does look normal, perhaps it was just the angle.

Several years ago, before we had options such as PBM, KTS super lows, D Max etc. I used to shave down the lower insert/spacer that goes between the pillowball and upper perch for an additional 5-10mm of low. If going with a smaller spring is not enough, that may be an option for you.

[jeremyuhh]

It does look normal, perhaps it was just the angle.

Several years ago, before we had options such as PBM, KTS super lows, D Max etc. I used to shave down the lower insert/spacer that goes between the pillowball and upper perch for an additional 5-10mm of low. If going with a smaller spring is not enough, that may be an option for you.

i also compared it to the photos they have on their site and it looked about the same to me.

i think the smaller spring should do it, but i shouldnt i be able to go low even with both collars on?

[alexisthemovie]

To be honest, my setup looked to be about the same as your fronts with collars removed and camber maxed.

[jerry_beans]

Do this. Stop crying.

NISSAN 240sx on fire in hialeah building - YouTube (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I7-V4GH0-fU)



Fixed your link... I think you ment for him to do this

[jeremyuhh]

To be honest, my setup looked to be about the same as your fronts with collars removed and camber maxed.

wouldnt you think 2 collars off and PBMs ability of going super low, as seen on other zilvia members' cars, would make my 2nd coupe lower? something isnt right. i do see and realize the ride height and the amount of tire the fender is covering is almost similar, but i was under the impression of PBMs going low without having to remove collars. im just waiting to see what Dan from PBM has to say.

1 collar removed, 0 preload, -2.8 camber, same tire and wheel size:
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l292/willbreakforrice/oldfitment_zpsbe6a4c9c.jpg

2 collars removed, a lot of preload, ~-3 camber:
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l292/willbreakforrice/IMG_2656_zpsb2ec54f7.jpg

[DC Dan MAX USA]

Back from Japan today

Lots of good suggestions here.

dont preload

springs do settle over time

Photoshopped ride height is not really drivable

45 series tire on 17 is correct, better for traction and ride and tucking

In the first post you said 0 camber, and the last post said -3 camber? Having 0 camber certainly makes the car higher, and negitive camber makes the car lower.

the standard for any drift car is maximum front camber and add wheel spacers to get the fitment back many people increase camber with the aftermarket FLCA which adds track width which is also good
When the car is cambered in the cars weight focuses on the inside of the tire, and it can compress it more. For tire wear its not good but for drift traction at lock its great because the caster adds too much positive camber when you camber in and change offset with spacers the car also gets lower because wheels are going out and up due to the camber.

Anyhow I have ordered 135mm springs.. only $60 plus shipping but air freight will cost you if you are in a hurry

[Xicor01]

How about you just return them, wait a little and buy pro's? Especially if all the people with pros are going lower than low?

[jeremyuhh]

Back from Japan today

Lots of good suggestions here.

dont preload

springs do settle over time

Photoshopped ride height is not really drivable

45 series tire on 17 is correct, better for traction and ride and tucking

In the first post you said 0 camber, and the last post said -3 camber? Having 0 camber certainly makes the car higher, and negitive camber makes the car lower.

the standard for any drift car is maximum front camber and add wheel spacers to get the fitment back many people increase camber with the aftermarket FLCA which adds track width which is also good
When the car is cambered in the cars weight focuses on the inside of the tire, and it can compress it more. For tire wear its not good but for drift traction at lock its great because the caster adds too much positive camber when you camber in and change offset with spacers the car also gets lower because wheels are going out and up due to the camber.

Anyhow I have ordered 135mm springs.. only $60 plus shipping but air freight will cost you if you are in a hurry

The first post was the first time i lowered my car. before the 5 lug conversion and wheels, i was running stock wheels with 0 camber. all i did was lower it to its max. the last post was when i was advised to add camber, so i added about -3 if my measurements were correct.

Never though camber would change the ride height that dramatically. on my first coupe, i also maxed out my coils after installing wheels and my fenders were already jammed up against the tire at 0 camber, thats why i was wondering why these coils didnt do that and thats why i thought camber didnt affect ride height. but now i know.

and lastly, Thank you for ordering the springs. im not in a hurry. what are the springs rates ? 10kg/mm ?do i pay now or wait until they have arrived?

[DC Dan MAX USA]

Xicor01- Pro does not go as low as comps because of the thicker top plate that has camber & caster and you cant return used product.

Jeremy - 10KG. Does not matter when they get paid for Dave sent you some mail about that.

[CleanAndLegit]

like I said op isn't doing it right this is maxed with no collars removed 18x10-12 225 40

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b51/KoolGuy306/S13%20Coupe%20Build/732ab10a9fdc11e28e5d22000a1f979a_7_zps313c6a2d.jpg

[jeremyuhh]

So what am I doing wrong ?

[ixfxi]

So what am I doing wrong ?

your driving a 240sx


sell your car and quit giving us a bad rep by excessively lowering your piece of shit car

[EsChassisLove]

Zero preload and no wonder all these coil overs ride like shit lol.

[jerry_beans]

http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/s506/friskynippsjerry/12D32D4A-A0A4-45BB-94AC-682E04E6C772-980-000000AE90E0D02C_zps3528e6ff.jpg

[CAR_sileighty]

http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/s506/friskynippsjerry/12D32D4A-A0A4-45BB-94AC-682E04E6C772-980-000000AE90E0D02C_zps3528e6ff.jpg

I was wondering how long it would take for this ^

[xoxide]

your driving a 240sx


sell your car and quit giving us a bad rep by excessively lowering your piece of shit car
Ah, yes... Mike is back. :naughtyd:

[PureRush]

your driving a 240sx


sell your car and quit giving us a bad rep by excessively lowering your piece of shit car

**you're

What, you never learned how to spell in elementary school?

[ixfxi]

sorry

i wrote my message in spanglish. you know, for the majority of zilvia to understand

[da_crew10]

like I said op isn't doing it right this is maxed with no collars removed 18x10-12 225 40

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b51/KoolGuy306/S13%20Coupe%20Build/732ab10a9fdc11e28e5d22000a1f979a_7_zps313c6a2d.jpg

You're also running a lot of negative camber. How would it look without it?

[yomisiu]

You're also running a lot of negative camber. How would it look without it?
"no collars removed "

he'd be lower than op no matter.

[FaLKoN240]

sorry

i wrote my message in spanglish. You know, for the majority of zilvia to understand

ooooooooooooo

[Martino]

So what am I doing wrong ?

Playing with cars when you shouldn't be playing with cars.

[EsChassisLove]

Playing with cars when you shouldn't be playing with cars.

Truth hurts.

[TheRealSy90]

I still get a kick out of this thread. Couldn't even low.

[pancakes562]

I think you have low profile tires and smaller wheel size. If you ran, lets say 225/40 on an 18x10 inch wheel you wouldn't have this problem.

[dirtiee]

mine dont go low either

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3665/11941828033_c98abc3cdb_z.jpg

18x9 215 35

[bataangpinoy]

i hope this dude realizes that tire size varies from brand to brand, even model to model within the same brand.

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/sideofhill/240sx%20coupe/dyingclutch_zps16c4d608.jpg

both are 215/45/17.

from are sumitomo, rear is bridgestone. tell me which ones are shorter

[gallo]

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u272/knockemdeadgrl/1173894_561874623848696_1401276632_n.jpg (http://s170.photobucket.com/user/knockemdeadgrl/media/1173894_561874623848696_1401276632_n.jpg.html)
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u272/knockemdeadgrl/1234302_560073577362134_2014371989_n.jpg (http://s170.photobucket.com/user/knockemdeadgrl/media/1234302_560073577362134_2014371989_n.jpg.html)

Mine sit just fine 18x9.5

[jay70]

like I said op isn't doing it right this is maxed with no collars removed 18x10-12 225 40

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b51/KoolGuy306/S13%20Coupe%20Build/732ab10a9fdc11e28e5d22000a1f979a_7_zps313c6a2d.jpg

you realise your tyre radius is like an inch taller? of course you're tucking an inch more

but seriously op if all collars are removed and it's not low enough just get shorter springs. not that hard to figure out?

[Tempo]

Thread bump from the dead lol...

I don't think OP's main goal is to be low more like get his wheel closer to the fender(low in otherwords whatever) tire size
doesn't matter 35/40/45 series it'll just help you not rub and will differentiate your cars ground clearance. If OP were to take
those tires off and just mocked up his rim without any tires on then that will be his fitment(granted he lowered the rim on some wood to compress coilover)
no matter what tire - i still can't believe people think getting a smaller profile tire will bring their wheel closer to the fender. shit i
run 215/35/18 to not rub and i could've just got some 40's and STILL have some same fender/wheel gap.

[Your240sucks]

2 weeks later = NEW THREAD CALLED " MY PBM COILOVERS BLEW"

[UGLYLOWLIFE]

stupid ass op. remove preload and you will go low

[boost86]

^getting rid of preload would make the car higher

[UGLYLOWLIFE]

getting rid of preload will make car lower. OP has maximum preload

[PeaceOnesxWai]

^I dont think you understand what preload is..

[xoxide]

LOL!

Please, Uglylowlife.... Explain to us how this magical preload you speak of will lower the car.....

[FaLKoN240]

I think he's talking about drooping the spring. But drooping the spring only works in the rear.

For the front if he has removed the collars and dropped the shock as far down into the perch as it will go, the only other option is to get a shorter spring.

[Mishkin_707]

Does anyone look at the damn dates on these threads? I mean really people.


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[KOUKIboy]

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u272/knockemdeadgrl/1173894_561874623848696_1401276632_n.jpg (http://s170.photobucket.com/user/knockemdeadgrl/media/1173894_561874623848696_1401276632_n.jpg.html)


Mine sit just fine 18x9.5

Off topic, what wheels are those?? in the rear, car looks awesome man!!!

[brian310]

when my pbm's wouldnt get low enough i just heated the springs.

cant believe the amount of people on here who dont understand how suspension geometry works but want to be hellatightflushomgscrapelife low

[tricky_ab]

when my pbm's wouldnt get low enough i just heated the springs.

cant believe the amount of people on here who dont understand how suspension geometry works but want to be hellatightflushomgscrapelife low

Um...Does that not potentially mess up the spring rates, and potentially weaken the spring?!?!

I wouldn't recommend doing such a thing... at all...

[brian310]

Um...Does that not potentially mess up the spring rates, and potentially weaken the spring?!?!

I wouldn't recommend doing such a thing... at all...

lol are you serious? i was being sarcastic.

[GreenApple]

I'm already tucking my tire treads under the fender and quarter panels already with my hks hipermax III. If I remove all the soft helper springs on all four struts I can drop another 2.5 in witch will be tucking half my tires to all of it lol. I'm surprise your pbm is having issue being low, their reputation is to be low isn't it.

[GreenApple]

when my pbm's wouldnt get low enough i just heated the springs.

cant believe the amount of people on here who dont understand how suspension geometry works but want to be hellatightflushomgscrapelife low

Understand, heating up any kind of metal to an extreme will soften it to a certain degree. However once cooled to operating normal tempurature the springs will be extremely stiff and brittle. It may crack or fall in pieces after a certain amount of shocks absorbed and vibrations. Springs are already heated once just enough heat to have it stable combo with the springs spreads and coil diameter. Their engineered from the manufacturer already, heating will gamble it's reliability. if you're getting away with your idea then I think you're really lucky.

[brian310]

holy crap guys i was being extremely sarcastic i did not mean that in any serious way lmao calm down

[tricky_ab]

lol are you serious? i was being sarcastic.

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view7/20131218/4927722/simpsons-sarcasm-detector-broken-o.gif

[S14DB]

I still get a kick out of this thread. Couldn't even low.

Doesn't matter what you think. Don't need to be bumping old threads.