View Full Version : D2 coilovers headsup
popey
04-13-2004, 09:18 PM
Just wanted to let you guys know theres another GB going on--nico forums...720shipped w/ upper mounts.
http://www.nissaninfiniticlub.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=58712
spread the word around if you got the chance...a pretty good deal
Matt
aw fuck I ordered the orange ksport ones for an s14 I am in the process of obtaining. I want purple :(
popey
04-17-2004, 11:43 PM
bumpity bump for those who didn't see it!! ends on the 25th
mike13
04-17-2004, 11:58 PM
aw fuck I ordered the orange ksport ones for an s14 I am in the process of obtaining. I want purple :(
orange > purple
true story.
stillmatic
04-18-2004, 12:13 AM
But Ksport < D2 even though they're the same company.
japboy06
04-18-2004, 12:29 PM
jus wondering...what would you compare the D2 to?...what other coilover would be just as equal to it?
Zemus
04-18-2004, 12:38 PM
I just put the D2s on my car with the 9/7 kg and their AMAZING, I love them. Great Coils, Great Buy, do it :-D. Also I took em out on the track, their great for grip and Drift :-D
YellwMonky
04-18-2004, 12:54 PM
But Ksport < D2 even though they're the same company.
why do you say that ?
Salty_X
04-18-2004, 01:18 PM
why do you say that ?
He probably doesn't like orange.
Even though orange kills purple...
Zemus
04-18-2004, 01:36 PM
pff yea right, purple freaking owns, and seeing as i have all purple suspention conponents their rock even more
Siizzzoooo
04-18-2004, 01:38 PM
arent D2 aka, DropZones brand?
if they are... :ghey:
YellwMonky
04-18-2004, 01:42 PM
yeah i think people are just full of sh*t :blah:
jus cause orange owns you bitches :rawk:
Zemus
04-18-2004, 01:53 PM
arent D2 aka, DropZones brand?
if they are... :ghey:
AHHAA no..
Their really hq coils, ive used Tein HEs before and their equal if not better than those :-D
Salty_X
04-18-2004, 02:10 PM
i have all purple suspention conponents
That is so very :ghey:
Zemus
04-18-2004, 02:40 PM
pff it looks so sweet, I love how people can run all pink and its (WHOA MAN JDM TIGHT PINK IS THE SHIT) Put when people run purple its "Gay". PFF So everything HKS is gay cuz its purlpe, ahha OKaaa
Salty_X
04-18-2004, 02:49 PM
Chill dude, it was a joke. :mepoke:
JDM tight pink is awesome though.
pruto
04-18-2004, 03:17 PM
all my god damn red components are turning pink =( my car is black and pink. grrrr
ISTOTOSAO
04-18-2004, 03:17 PM
Both people for D2 and K-Sport say they are the same (different badging). same spring options, same adjustability, same manufacturer. Just color. And everybody knows ORANGE is WAY better than purple. j/k. Those are just the ones I can pick up.
brianglawson
04-18-2004, 04:49 PM
would my 17x8 +30 with a 225 45 clear them? also would everything i need to install be included with them...ha it ends on my b-day:)
brianglawson
04-18-2004, 04:51 PM
aslo about how much height adjustment would they have??
mandoz85
04-18-2004, 05:43 PM
When i ordered mine they told me they have 0-4 inch height adjust.
mike13
04-18-2004, 09:49 PM
machined brackets are sick... the only thing i wasnt happy about on my Tein flex were the cheap ass welds on the brackets.
ryan hagen
04-18-2004, 10:47 PM
pff it looks so sweet, I love how people can run all pink and its (WHOA MAN JDM TIGHT PINK IS THE SHIT) Put when people run purple its "Gay". PFF So everything HKS is gay cuz its purlpe, ahha OKaaa
hks are junk, lol actaully i really like them but as soon as any one buys a pair you should take them in and get them clear coated if you like chrome or painted, they rust like a mother fucker...... had to have mine sand blasted and now they wear about 6 coats ob black paint..... still got the purple bling
PSI240SX
04-19-2004, 05:59 AM
you cant see em once they are in anyway, trust me. I love these coilovers, best mod yet on my car. I have the 7/5 combo. For those with S13 coupes who buy these.... You must install the rear adjustment tools before you install the coilovers, once you have them installed, you cannot fit the adjustment tool in because of lack of rear deck height. I still havent pulled mine back out yet LOL.
Hows the ride with the 7/5 spring rates? I personally got 7/5 for my s14 not the reccomended 8/6. Not my crashed s14 heh, I'm using all my sr money to pickup another black s14 and wait for this insurance crap with the accident I got into
the240sxer95
04-19-2004, 06:26 PM
i read that WORKS is closed?? so i guess ill jump on these dampers.. with a 11/9 spring rate.. BTW for those who ordered how long did it take to arrive? i MIGHT consider doing it express mail.. but thats an extra 200 :O
AceInHole
04-19-2004, 08:52 PM
Check the motorsports section to see the D2's in action.
meh. for the lazy people, the video can be found here:
http://www.engr.uconn.edu/~corrales/carsIM/autox/NER_event1/
save files before viewing. thanks.
Zemus
04-19-2004, 09:04 PM
Yea, Ive been driving them for days, their great, I havent even touched their limits, so awesome
the240sxer95
04-19-2004, 10:14 PM
i guess ill be getting some d2's also!
sticky240
04-19-2004, 11:46 PM
just so everyone knows, its posted on NICO that D2 & Ksport are the same coilover except for the fact that D2 Has an adjustment knob and Ksport doesnt. The reason the K's don't is because in the future they will be a electronic dampining controll device for them.
Also, the K's were designed in japan and the D2's in Taiwan
Torso
04-20-2004, 10:08 AM
I thought from the pics the adjustment knob was removeable on the D2's, is that the case or are they fixed and permanent?. If they just pop out, what would prevent someone attaching the EDC mentioned for the KSport to the D2's?
Also, if these were actually designed seperately as quoted here from sticky240 "just so everyone knows, its posted on NICO that D2 & Ksport are the same coilover except for the fact that D2 Has an adjustment knob and Ksport doesnt. The reason the K's don't is because in the future they will be a electronic dampining controll device for them.
Also, the K's were designed in Japan and the D2's in Taiwan" end quote
Why would they be identical, down to "almost" every detail (one knob has marks on it, other doesn't from what I understand)? someone had to copy the others design, unless of course there is actually only one design. If so, who gets the credit, the Japanese or the Taiwanese? What purpose does it serve trying to highlight the country they were designed in and the difference in applied graphics and color? Sounds like the same product to me in the end. So can anyone clarify this? And I hope this made sense to those who read it and thanks to those that address my questions
Torso
nissan slut
04-20-2004, 09:37 PM
so who's gonna rebuild these things when they eventually blow? and they will. all coilovers need to be rebuilt, sooner or later.
Toahk
04-20-2004, 10:02 PM
These questions were asked on NICO.
Are they rebuildable? Yes
Revalvable? Yes
Can I use any Rear UPBM's? Yes
The front UPBM's are camber adjustable, correct? Yes
Instructions? Yes
Tools? Yes
What is the height adjustability range? 0" - 4"
DamnedButDetermined
04-21-2004, 11:29 AM
I thought from the pics the adjustment knob was removeable on the D2's, is that the case or are they fixed and permanent?. If they just pop out, what would prevent someone attaching the EDC mentioned for the KSport to the D2's?
Also, if these were actually designed seperately as quoted here from sticky240 "just so everyone knows, its posted on NICO that D2 & Ksport are the same coilover except for the fact that D2 Has an adjustment knob and Ksport doesnt. The reason the K's don't is because in the future they will be a electronic dampining controll device for them.
Also, the K's were designed in Japan and the D2's in Taiwan" end quote
Why would they be identical, down to "almost" every detail (one knob has marks on it, other doesn't from what I understand)? someone had to copy the others design, unless of course there is actually only one design. If so, who gets the credit, the Japanese or the Taiwanese? What purpose does it serve trying to highlight the country they were designed in and the difference in applied graphics and color? Sounds like the same product to me in the end. So can anyone clarify this? And I hope this made sense to those who read it and thanks to those that address my questions
Torso
The coilovers are manufactured in the same plant then they are shipped to each respective company in japan/taiwan and they are spray painted, have the adjustment knobs and graphics put on!
from what i understand
Torso
04-21-2004, 01:20 PM
Yeah that was my point, maybe my wordiness didn't make that apparent. From all reports these are the same item just with different colors and "graphics". If that is the case, differentiating the country of design makes no sense, other than to make a buyer "feel" more confident about them because Japan is mentioned in their design (not production) lineage. Also as stated, wouldn't this duplicity in design allow any "addons" (an EDC device for example) for one, be applicable to the other.
Again thanks to all that reply
Torso
nissan slut
04-21-2004, 07:59 PM
do i just send them back to D2 to gtet them rebuilt?
KiDyNomiTe
04-21-2004, 08:03 PM
do i just send them back to D2 to gtet them rebuilt?
haha oh that would take like 5+ months, and if customs is still a bitch then like they are at the current moment (got my shit held up :angry:) It could take a really long time.
Try finding some shop that makes custom shocks, they might rebuild them.
AceInHole
04-21-2004, 08:15 PM
i wonder if GC would rebuild them....?
DuffMan
04-21-2004, 08:27 PM
I seriously doubt anyone but the manufacturer of the shock (whoever that is) could rebuild them.
If you send them EMS or UPS they should clear customs instantly but for the price of a rebuild and air shipping you might as well just buy a new one. The real question is will there be an english-speaking person who can arrange for you to purchase a new shock years from now when one of them goes bad.
Zemus
04-21-2004, 08:34 PM
So will the EDC work on the D2s??
S13FREEAAK
04-21-2004, 09:18 PM
Mark from NICO said that D2 USA will be able to rebuild them. D2 USA should be established within the next two months.
AceInHole
04-21-2004, 10:01 PM
I seriously doubt anyone but the manufacturer of the shock (whoever that is) could rebuild them.
why not? the shock comes apart fairly easily. the charge valve is located on the bottom and is a very simple valve resembling the air valve found on your wheels. all i've gotta do is get the bottom cap off and i can pull it all apart to look at.
If you send them EMS or UPS they should clear customs instantly but for the price of a rebuild and air shipping you might as well just buy a new one. The real question is will there be an english-speaking person who can arrange for you to purchase a new shock years from now when one of them goes bad.
I got mine within a week. $250 for the replacement shock shipped EMS.
DuffMan
04-21-2004, 10:38 PM
Okay but you need valves and the mechanicisms with apertures for adjustment that are identical to this particular shock. Maybe the adjustment mechanism would not need to be replaced, but the question is who makes the shocks?
Most JDM coilover companies dont make their own shocks. They attach a threaded case to them. Since the company that makes them is probably taiwanesse, it makes it very difficult to find the valves. Generally the valves arent sold off the shelf.
The valves need to be matched to the aperatures, and sizes of the chambers in the shock. Its not like you can just get a generic valve that dampens for your particular application and it will work in any shock.
If there is a D2 USA in a few months that can revalve them, thats great. I'm not trying to put this product down or anything, just identify the risks involved.
ISTOTOSAO
04-22-2004, 11:17 AM
K-Sport in up and running from what I hear. They said that they offer full service for the coils. I would assume that intails revalving/ rebuilding. And since they are the same shock, I would think that you could send your D2s there.
DamnedButDetermined
04-22-2004, 04:02 PM
K-Sport in up and running from what I hear. They said that they offer full service for the coils. I would assume that intails revalving/ rebuilding. And since they are the same shock, I would think that you could send your D2s there.
They are up and running, but their website suck b/c half of their pages don't load. I sent them an e-mail a while ago and I still haven't gottena reply yet.
AceInHole
04-22-2004, 07:04 PM
Okay but you need valves and the mechanicisms with apertures for adjustment that are identical to this particular shock. Maybe the adjustment mechanism would not need to be replaced, but the question is who makes the shocks?
Most JDM coilover companies dont make their own shocks. They attach a threaded case to them. Since the company that makes them is probably taiwanesse, it makes it very difficult to find the valves. Generally the valves arent sold off the shelf.
The valves need to be matched to the aperatures, and sizes of the chambers in the shock. Its not like you can just get a generic valve that dampens for your particular application and it will work in any shock.
If there is a D2 USA in a few months that can revalve them, thats great. I'm not trying to put this product down or anything, just identify the risks involved.
My guess: if GC has their own line of shocks built in-house, they might be able to obtain/ make the shims. Guess we'll just have to see.
Powashiftin
04-22-2004, 10:18 PM
Just ordered my D2 coils 9/7 with an extra pair of 5's ... muwahahaha
nokuntrol
04-24-2004, 01:52 PM
Just ordered a set. Hope they are as good as everyone says.
rupertaker1
04-24-2004, 04:27 PM
About to order two sets. :)
popey
04-25-2004, 11:44 AM
Mark has indicated that D2 will be up and running in the USA very soon..so rebuild would be available.
And there are no instructions for instsll, maybe ace can write one up for everyone? :coold: :coold: :kiss:
is that the price of the set of 4? or the price for a pair? O_o
Jeff240sx
04-25-2004, 02:37 PM
Set of four.
-Jeff
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