Clutch pilot bushing vs clutch pilot bearing

[ILoveJDM]

Im confused on these 2 parts. which should I be using, both? are these just 2 different styles or?

Nissan Genuine OEM Crankshaft Clutch Pilot Roller Bearing (http://www.frsport.com/Nissan-Genuine-OEM-Crankshaft-Clutch-Pilot-Roller-Bearing_p_32133.html)

Nissan OEM Crankshaft Clutch Pilot Bushing Bearing (http://www.frsport.com/Nissan-OEM-Crankshaft-Clutch-Pilot-Bushing-Bearing_p_12514.html)

[Matej]

They are the same thing. The one that is an actual bearing is supposed to be better and fancier, but I had one break on me.

[Renelovesnike]

Could only run one or the other, I'm running an oem brass one and no problem here.

im assuming roller bearing is just fancier but more of a chance of it going out on you.

all it does is support the imput shaft for the tranny and keeps it from titter totting/keep stable.

[ze12o]

The roller bearing is known to seize up if not regularly maintained. It provides little to no improvement. I changed mine (which was rusted to hell) to a oem brass one and felt no difference.

[chiboy002]

what is the bearing one from?

wondering why nissan would switch to a bearing and never recall it or put technical sheets notifying the failures

[ze12o]

Well usually I see them sold as a nismo part. Used for race car that have their trans/motor regularly pulled. I don't think the roller bearings comes stock on our cars.

[ILoveJDM]

thanks for the input guys.

looking on nissanpartscc the roller bearing one is used for the 300zx as well as the 350z, someone found out they worked on the sr20 i guess.

I was really confused at first why nissan would have both as OEM parts, but this makes sense.

[boxofchocolate]

ive heard from many people that the roller type are easy to go bad, and the brass ones you never have to worry about

[Matej]

what is the bearing one from?

wondering why nissan would switch to a bearing and never recall it or put technical sheets notifying the failures
Well usually I see them sold as a nismo part. Used for race car that have their trans/motor regularly pulled. I don't think the roller bearings comes stock on our cars.
Pretty sure it is not even really a Nissan part, as lots of cars use the same one. Nismo just repackaged it, as happens with lots of parts. I would not be surprised if you can find it at any parts store, as long as you know what other cars it cross-references with:
http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/search/Clutch+Pilot+Bearing!s!Bushing/C2325/C0015.oap?make=Ford&model=Bronco+II&year=1989&vi=1106187


Things like this happen with them. On mine, a chunk of one of the edges chipped off.
http://www.ffcars.com/photopost/data/623/medium/Transmisson_install_2_019a.jpg
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h219/DZAUTO/Driveline/DSCN0371.jpg

[zerodameaon]

I have two years on my brass one and it did not even look worn. Pulled a buddies S14 trans with 5000mi on it and the roller bearing was shot.

[hufqnjhu]

It provides little to no improvement.http://webcardid.com/apple/images/26.gif