Former LAPD Officer Attempted to Flee Country Before Allegedly Shooting Cops

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Serious shit going on in Socal..

Christopher Dorner Manhunt: Former LAPD Officer Attempted to Flee Country Before Allegedly Shooting Cops - Yahoo! (http://gma.yahoo.com/ex-la-cop-sought-shootings-3-cops-2-101603335--abc-news-topstories.html)


The fired ex-California cop who set off a region-wide manhunt after allegedly shooting three police officers this morning -- one fatally -- had initially gone to a yacht club near San Diego where police say he attempted to steal a boat and flee to Mexico.
Police say that former police officer Christopher Jordan Dorner, 33, who officials believe posted an online manifesto outlining his plan to "terminate" his former colleagues and their families, is armed with a long gun and might have several other guns and high-capacity magazines. He is also believed to have access to military uniforms because he has served in the Navy.
"We are considering him armed and dangerous," Lt. Julia Engen of the Irvine Police Department said.
Police allege that he went to the yacht club Wednesday night at Point Loma, Calif., near San Diego to steal the boat. He aborted the attempted theft when the boat's propeller became entangled in a rope, law enforcement officials said. It was at that point he is believed to have headed to Riverside, where he allegedly shot two police officers.
"He pointed a handgun at the victim [at the yacht club] and demanded the boat," Lt. David Rohowits of the San Diego Police Department said.
Police say the rifle marksman shot at four officers in two incidents overnight, hitting three of them: one in Corona, Calif., and the two in Riverside, Calif.
Sgt. Rudy Lopez of the LAPD said two LAPD officers were in Corona and headed out on special detail to check on one of the individuals named in Dorner's manifesto. Dorner allegedly grazed one of them but missed the other.
"[This is an] extremely tense situation," Lopez said. "We call this a manhunt. We approach it cautiously because of the propensity of what has already happened."
The Riverside Police Department said two of its officers were shot before one of them died, KABC-TV reported. The other is in stable condition with two gunshot wounds, police say.
"They were on routine patrol stopped at a stop light when they were ambushed," Lt. Guy Toussant of the Riverside police department said.
In the manifesto Dorner published online, he threatened at least 12 people by name, along with their families.
"Your lack of ethics and conspiring to wrong a just individual are over. Suppressing the truth will leave to deadly consequences for you and your family," Dorner wrote in his manifesto.
A badge and identification belonging to Dorner have been found in San Diego, according to San Diego police Sgt. Ray Battrick. Dorner's LAPD badge and ID were found by someone near the city's airport, and turned in to police overnight, The Associated Press reported.
Police around Southern California are wearing tactical gear, including helmets and guns across their chests. The light-up signs along California highways show the license plate number of Dorner's car, and say to call 911 if it is seen. The problem, police say, is that they believe Dorner is switching license plates on his car, a 2005 charcoal-gray Nissan Titan pickup truck.
Los Angeles Police Department Chief Charlie Beck said today that 40 protective details have been deployed to protect officers and their families.

"We are taking all measures possible to ensure safety of our officers and their families," he said.

Dorner is also believed to be responsible for the weekend slayings of an assistant women's college basketball coach and her fiancé in what cops believe are acts of revenge against the LAPD, as suggested in his online manifesto.
Lawrence was found slumped behind the wheel of his white Kia in the parking lot of their upscale apartment complex in Irvine Sunday and Quan was in the passenger seat.
"A particular interest at this point in the investigation is a multi-page manifesto in which the suspect has implicated himself in the slayings," Maggard said.
Police said Dorner's manifesto included threats against members of the LAPD. Police say they are taking extra measures to ensure the safety of officers and their families.
The document, allegedly posted on an Internet message board this week, apparently blames Quan's father, retired LAPD Capt. Randy Quan, for his firing from the department.
One passage from the manifesto reads, "I will bring unconventional and asymmetrical warfare to those in LAPD uniform whether on or off duty."
"I never had the opportunity to have a family of my own," it reads. "I'm terminating yours."
Dorner was with the department from 2005 until 2008, when he was fired for making false statements.
Randy Quan, who became a lawyer in retirement, represented Dorner in front of the Board of Rights, a tribunal that ruled against Dorner at the time of his dismissal, LAPD Capt. William Hayes told The Associated Press Wednesday night.
According to documents from a court of appeals hearing in October 2011, Dorner was fired from the LAPD after he made a complaint against his field-training officer, Sgt. Teresa Evans, saying in the course of an arrest she had kicked a suspect who was a schizophrenic with severe dementia.
After an investigation, Dorner was fired for making false statements.
"We have strong cause to believe Dorner is armed and dangerous," Maggard said.
Donner was also a Navy reservist who'd just finished his military career as a lieutenant Friday. His only overseas deployment was to a Navy base in Bahrain. He also received a Rifle Marksman Ribbon and Pistol Expert Medal, meaning he received superior scores when he tested at the range.
A Navy official confirms Naval Base Point Loma is on lockdown.
Police say Dorner is black, 6-feet tall and weighs 270 pounds. He has black hair and brown eyes, and believed to be driving the Nissan pickup truck.
Meanwhile, Cal State-Fullerton is still mourning the loss of their beloved assistant coach.
"There are really no words to convey the sadness that our program feels, that the young women who have had the privilege of working with such a bright and passionate woman," head coach Marcia Foster said earlier this week. "I want to especially send out condolences to Randal and Sylvia Quan, and her brother Ryan."
After college, Quan coached at Lutheran University in Thousand Oaks and has spent the past two years as an assistant coach at Cal State-Fullerton. The university has posted a memorial page on its sports website dedicated to Quan.
Lawrence was a business graduate who recently started working as a public-safety officer at USC.

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all that corruption finally came back and bit them in the ass.

it sucks to be a black guy, swoll, and bald in so cal today.

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Well, I have a conspiracy theory that LAPD won't capture him alive because he might speak about corruption.

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over here at submarine base point loma the base was put on lock down at around 1000. i was down in the magazines (where we store munitions) handling missiles when the word to "take shelter" came over the radio. we didnt know if there was an incoming thunderstorm, active shooter on base, or what. we later got back yo work around 15-20 minutes later and still didnt know what was going on. one of the guys checks the news on his phone and read something about a stolen yacht

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fuck the police fuck fuck the police jay and silent bob funny scene - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKuMhpb1gOI)

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His Manifesto


From: Christopher Jordan Dorner /7648




To: America




Subj: Last resort




Regarding CF# 07-004281




I know most of you who personally know me are in disbelief to hear from media reports that I am suspected of committing such horrendous murders and have taken drastic and shocking actions in the last couple of days. You are saying to yourself that this is completely out of character of the man you knew who always wore a smile wherever he was seen. I know I will be villified by the LAPD and the media.




Unfortunately, this is a necessary evil that I do not enjoy but must partake and complete for substantial change to occur within the LAPD and reclaim my name. The department has not changed since the Rampart and Rodney King days. It has gotten worse. The consent decree should never have been lifted. The only thing that has evolved from the consent decree is those officers involved in the Rampart scandal and Rodney King incidents have since promoted to supervisor, commanders, and command staff, and executive positions.




The question is, what would you do to clear your name?




Name;




A word or set of words by which a person, animal, place, or thing is known, addressed, or referred to.




Name Synonyms;




reputation, title, appellation, denomination, repute.




A name is more than just a noun, verb, or adjective. It’s your life, your legacy, your journey, sacrifices, and everything you’ve worked hard for every day of your life as and adolescent, young adult and adult. Don’t let anybody tarnish it when you know you’ve live up to your own set of ethics and personal ethos.




In 8/07 I reported an officer (Ofcr. Teresa Evans/now a Sergeant), for kicking a suspect (excessive force) during a Use of Force while I was assigned as a patrol officer at LAPD’s Harbor Division. While cuffing the suspect, (Christopher Gettler), Evans kicked the suspect twice in the chest and once in the face. The kick to the face left a visible injury on the left cheek below the eye. Unfortunately after reporting it to supervisors and investigated by PSB (internal affairs investigator Det. Villanueva/Gallegos), nothing was done. I had broken their supposed “Blue Line”.




Unfortunately, It’s not JUST US, it’s JUSTICE!!! In fact, 10 months later on 6/25/08, after already successfully completing probation, acquiring a basic Post Certificate, and Intermediate Post Certificate, I was relieved of duty by the LAPD while assigned to patrol at Southwest division. It is clear as day that the department retaliated toward me for reporting Evans for kicking Mr. Christopher Gettler. The department stated that I had lied and made up the report that Evans had kicked the suspect.




I later went to a Board of Rights (department hearing for decision of continued employment) from 10/08 to 1/09. During this BOR hearing a video was played for the BOR panel where Christopher Gettler stated that he was indeed kicked by Officer Evans (video sent to multiple news agencies). In addition to Christopher Gettler stating he was kicked, his father Richard Gettler, also stated that his son had stated he was kicked by an officer when he was arrested after being released from custody. This was all presented for the department at the BOR hearing. They still found me guilty and terminated me.




What they didn’t mention was that the BOR panel made up of Capt. Phil Tingirides, Capt. Justin Eisenberg, and City Attorney Martella had a signigicant problem from the time the board was assembled. Capt. Phil Tingirides was a personal friend of Teresa Evans from when he was her supervisor at Harbor station. That is a clear conflict of interest and I made my argument for his removal early and was denied. The advocate for the LAPD BOR was Sgt. Anderson. Anderson also had a conflict of interest as she was Evans friend and former partner from Harbor division where they both worked patrol together. I made my argument for her removal when I discovered her relation to Evans and it was denied.




During the BOR, the department attempted to label me unsuccessfully as a bully. They stated that I had bullied a recruit, Abraham Schefres, in the academy when in reality and unfounded disposition from the official 1.28 formal complaint investigation found that I was the one who stood up for Abraham Schefres when other recruits sang nazi hitler youth songs about burning Jewish ghettos in WWII Germany where his father was a survivor of a concentration camp. How f***ing dare you attempt to label me with such a nasty vile word. I ask that all earnest journalist investigating this story ask Ofcr. Abraham Schefres about the incident when Ofcr. Burdios began singing a nazi youth song about burning jewish ghettos.




The internal affairs investigation in the academy involving Schefres was spurned by a complaint that I had initiated toward two fellow recruit/offifcers. While on a assigned patrol footbeat in Hollywood Division, Officers Hermilio Buridios IV and Marlon Magana (both current LAPD officers) decided that they would voice their personal feelings about the black community. While traveling back to the station in a 12 passenger van I heard Magana refer to another individual as a n****r. I wasn’t sure if I heard correctly as there were many conversations in the van that was compiled of at least 8 officers and he was sitting in the very rear and me in the very front.




Even with the multiple conversations and ambient noise I heard Officer Magana call an indivdual a n****r again. Now that I had confirmed it, I told Magana not to use that word again. I explained that it was a well known offensive word that should not be used by anyone. He replied, “I’ll say it when I want”. Officer Burdios, a friend of his, also stated that he would say n****r when he wanted. At that point I jumped over my front passenger seat and two other officers where I placed my hands around Burdios’ neck and squeezed. I stated to Burdios, “Don’t f***ing say that”. At that point there was pushing and shoving and we were separated by several other officers. What I should have done, was put a Winchester Ranger SXT 9mm 147 grain bullet in his skull and Officer Magana’s skull.




The Situation would have been resolved effective, immediately. The sad thing about this incident was that when Detective Ty from internal affairs investigated this incident only (1) officer (unknown) in the van other than myself had statements constistent with what actually happened. The other six officers (John Carey, Gary Parker, Jacob Waks, Abraham Schefres and names I have forgotten) all stated they heard nothing and saw nothing. Shame on every one of you. Shame on Detective Ty (same ethnicity as Burdios) for creating a separate 1.28 formal complaint against me (Schefres complaint) in retaliation for initiating the complaint against Burdios and Magana. Don’t retaliate against honest officers for breaking your so called blue line.




I hope your son Ryan Ty, who I knew, is a better officer than you, Detective Ty.The saddest part of this ordeal was that Officer Burdios and Magana were only given 22 day suspensions and are still LAPD officers to this day. That day, the LAPD stated that it is acceptable for fellow officers to call black officers n****rs to their face and you will receive a slap on the wrist. Even sadder is that during that 22 day suspension Buridios and Magana received is that the LAPPL (Los Angeles Police Protective League) paid the officers their salaries while they were suspended. When I took a two day suspension for an accidental discharge, I took my suspension and never applied for a league salary. Its called integrity.




Journalist, I want you to investigate every location I resided in growing up. Find any incidents where I was ever accused of being a bully. You won’t, because it doesn’t exist. It’s not in my DNA. Never was. I was the only black kid in each of my elementary school classes from first grade to seventh grade in junior high and any instances where I was disciplined for fighting was in response to fellow students provoking common childhood schoolyard fights, or calling me a n****r or other derogatory racial names. I grew up in neighborhoods where blacks make up less than 1%. My first recollection of racism was in the first grade at Norwalk Christian elementary school in Norwalk, CA. A fellow student, Jim Armstrong if I can recall, called me a n****r on the playground. My response was swift and non-lethal. I struck him fast and hard with a punch an kick. He cried and reported it to a teacher. The teacher reported it to the principal. The principal swatted Jim for using a derogatory word toward me. He then for some unknown reason swatted me for striking Jim in response to him calling me a n****r. He stated as good Christians we are to turn the other cheek as Jesus did. Problem is, I’m not a f***ing Christian and that old book, made of fiction and limited non-fiction, called the bible, never once stated Jesus was called a n****r. How dare you swat me for standing up for my rights for demanding that I be treated as a equal human being. That day I made a life decision that i will not tolerate racial derogatory terms spoken to me. Unfortunately I was swatted multiple times for the same exact reason up until junior high. Terminating me for telling the truth of a caucasian officer kicking a mentally ill man is disgusting. Don’t ever call me a f***ing bully. I want all journalist to utilize every source you have that specializes in collections for your reports. With the discovery and evidence available you will see the truth. Unfortunately, I will not be alive to see my name cleared. That’s what this is about, my name. A man is nothing without his name. Below is a list of locations where I resided from childhood to adulthood.




Cerritos, CA.




Pico Rivera, CA.




La Palma, CA.




Thousand Oaks, CA.




Cedar City, UT.




Pensacola, FL.




Enid, OK.




Yorba Linda, CA.




Las Vegas, NV.




During the BOR an officer named, Sgt. Hernandez, from Los Angeles Port Police testified on behalf of the LAPD. Hernandez stated for the BOR that he arrived at the location of the UOF shortly before I cuffed the suspect. He also stated that he assisted in cuffing the suspect and that’s old the BOR he told me to fix my tie. All of those statements were LIES!!! Hernandez, you arrived at the UOF location up to 30 seconds after I had cuffed Mr. Gettler. All you did was help me lift the suspect to his feet as it was difficult for me to do by myself because of his heavy weight. You did not tell me to fix my tie as the BOR members and everyone else in the room know you lied because the photographic evidence from the UOF scene where Gettler’s injuries were photographed clearly shows me wearing a class B uniform on that day. A class B uniform is a short sleeved uniform blouse. A short sleeved uniform blouse for the LAPD does not have a tie included. This is not Super Troopers uniform, you jackass. Why did you feel the need to embellish and lie about your involvement in the UOF? Are you ashamed that you could not get hired on by any other department other than port police? Do you have delusions of grandeur? What you did was perjury, exactly what Evans did when she stated she did not kick Christopher Gettler.




What they failed to mention in the BOR was Teresa Evans own use of force history during her career on the LAPD. She has admitted that she has a lengthy use of force record and has been flagged several times by risk management. She has a very well known nickname, Chupacabra, which she was very proud to flaunt around the division. She found it very funny and entertaining to draw blood from suspects and arrestees. At one point she even intentionally ripped the flesh off the arm of a woman we had arrested for battery (sprayed her neighbor with a garden water hose). Knowing the woman had thin elastic skin, she performed and Indian burn to the woman’s arm after cuffing her. That woman was in her mid-70′s, a mother and grandmother, and was angry at her tenants who failed to pay rent on time. Something I can completely understand and I am sure many have wanted to do toward tenants who do not pay their rent. Teresa Evans was also demoted from a senior lead officer rank/position for performance issues. During my two months of working patrol with Teresa Evans, I found her as a woman who was very angry that she had been pulled from patrol for a short time because of a domestic violence report made by Long Beach Police Department because of an incident involving her active LAPD officer boyfriend, Dominick Fuentes, and herself. Dominick Fuentes is the same officer investigated for witness tampering. She also was visibly angry on a daily basis that she was going to have to file for bankruptcy because her ex-husband, a former LAPD officer and not Dominick Fuentes, who had left the department, state, and was nowhere to be found had left her with a tax bill and debt that she was unable to pay because of a lack of financial means. Evans, you are a POS and you lied right to the BOR panel when Randy Quan asked you if you kicked Christopher Gettler. You destroyed my life and name because of your actions. Time is up. The time is now to confess to Chief Beck.




I ask that all journalist investigating this story submit request for FOIA with the LAPD to gain access to the BOR transcripts which occurred from 10/08 to 2/09. There, you will see that a video was played for the BOR members of Mr. Christopher Gettler who suffers from Schizophrenia and Dementia stating that he was kicked by a female officer. That video evidence supports my claim that Evans kicked him twice in the upper body and once in the face. I would like all journalist to also request copies of all reports that I had written while employed by LAPD. Whether in the academy, or during my 3 years as a police officer. There are DR#’s attached to each report (investigative report) that I have ever written so they all exist. A FOIA request will most likely be needed to access these at Parker center or at the Personnel/Records. Judge my writin/grammar skills for yourself. The department attempted to paint me as an officer who could not write reports. Even though Sgt. Joel Sydanmaa a training officer who trained me stated for the BOR panel that there was nothing wrong with my report writing and that I was better than all rookie/probationer officers he has ever trained. Officer David Drew stated the same but refused to testify as he did not want to “get involved” with the BOR’s. Contact Sgt. Donald Deming ,(now a Captain at Lompoc PD), Sgt. Thaddeus Faulk, and Sgt. Ed Clark. All will state that my report writing was impeccable. I will tell you this, I always type my reports because I have messy handwriting/penmanship. I never had a single kickback/redlined report at Southwest division and Sgt. Faulk and Sgt. Clark can testify to that. I never received an UNSATISFACTORY on any day or week. The same can be said within the U.S. Naval Reserves. All commanders will state that my report writing was always clear, concise, and impeccable. Even search my AAR (after action reports),chits, Memorandum’s, IIR’s (Intelligence Information Reports) which were written in the Navy. All were pristine.




I had worked patrol at LAPD’s Harbor Division from 2/06 until 7/06 when I was involuntarily recalled back to active duty (US Navy) for a 12 month mobilization/deployment to Centcom in support of OIF/OEF. I returned back to LAPD’s Harbor division on 7/07 and immediately returned to patrol. I worked at Harbor division until 11/07 where I then transferred to Southwest Division. I worked At Southwest division until 6/25/08 when I was relieved of duty.




I have exhausted all available means at obtaining my name back. I have attempted all legal court efforts within appeals at the Superior Courts and California Appellate courts. This is my last resort. The LAPD has suppressed the truth and it has now lead to deadly consequences. The LAPD’s actions have cost me my law enforcement career that began on 2/7/05 and ended on 1/2/09. They cost me my Naval career which started on 4/02 and ends on 2/13. I had a TS/SCI clearance(Top Secret Sensitive Compartmentalized Information clearance) up until shortly after my termination with LAPD. This is the highest clearance a service member can attain other than a Yankee White TS/SCI which is only granted for those working with and around the President/Vice President of the United States. I lost my position as a Commanding Officer of a Naval Security Forces reserve unit at NAS Fallon because of the LAPD. I’ve lost a relationship with my mother and sister because of the LAPD. I’ve lost a relationship with close friends because of the LAPD. In essence, I’ve lost everything because the LAPD took my name and new I was INNOCENT!!! Capt Phil Tingirides, Justin Eisenberg, Martella, Randy Quan, and Sgt. Anderson all new I was innocent but decided to terminate me so they could continue Ofcr. Teresa Evans career. I know about the meeting between all of you where Evans attorney, Rico, confessed that she kicked Christopher Gettler (excessive force). Your day has come.




I’m not an aspiring rapper, I’m not a gang member, I’m not a dope dealer, I don’t have multiple babies momma’s. I am an American by choice, I am a son, I am a brother, I am a military service member, I am a man who has lost complete faith in the system, when the system betrayed, slandered, and libeled me. I lived a good life and though not a religious man I always stuck to my own personal code of ethics, ethos and always stuck to my shoreline and true North. I didn’t need the US Navy to instill Honor, Courage, and Commitment in me but I thank them for re-enforcing it. It’s in my DNA.




Luckily I don’t have to live everyday like most of you. Concerned if the misconduct you were apart of is going to be discovered. Looking over your shoulder, scurrying at every phone call from internal affairs or from the Captains office wondering if that is the day PSB comes after you for the suspects you struck when they were cuffed months/years ago or that $500 you pocketed from the narcotics dealer, or when the other guys on your watch beat a transient nearly to death and you never reported the UOF to the supervisor. No, I don’t have that concern, I stood up for what was right but unfortunately have dealt with the reprocussions of doing the right thing and now losing my name and everything I ever stood for. You f***ers knew Evans was guilty of kicking (excessive force) Gettler and you did nothing but get rid of what you saw as the problem, the whistleblower. Gettler himself stated on video tape ( provided for the BOR and in transcripts) he was kicked and even his father stated that his son said he was kicked by Evans when he was released from custody. The video was played for the entire BOR to hear. Tingirides, Eisenberg, and Martella all heard it. You’re going to see what a whistleblower can do when you take everything from him especially his NAME!!!




Look what you did to Sgt. Gavin (now lieutenant) when he exposed the truth of your lying, racism, and PSB cover-ups to frame and convict an innocent man. You can not police yourselves and the consent decree was unsuccessful. Sgt. Gavin, I met you on the range several times as a recruit and as an officer. You’re a good man and I saw it in your eyes an actions.




Self Preservation is no longer important to me. I do not fear death as I died long ago on 1/2/09. I was told by my mother that sometimes bad things happen to good people. I refuse to accept that.




From 2/05 to 1/09 I saw some of the most vile things humans can inflict on others as a police officer in Los Angeles. Unfortunately, it wasn’t in the streets of LA. It was in the confounds of LAPD police stations and shops (cruisers). The enemy combatants in LA are not the citizens and suspects, it’s the police officers.




People who live in glass houses should not throw stones. How ironic that you utilize a fixed glass structure as your command HQ. You use as a luminous building to symbolize that you are transparent, have nothing to hide, or suppress when in essence, concealing, omitting, and obscuring is your forte.




Chief Beck, this is when you need to have that come to Jesus talk with Sgt. Teresa Evans and everyone else who was involved in the conspiracy to have me terminated for doing the right thing. you also need to speak with her attorney, Rico, and his conversation with the BOR members and her confession of guilt in kicking Mr. Gettler. I’ll be waiting for a PUBLIC response at a press conference. When the truth comes out, the killing stops.




Why didn’t you charge me with filing a false police report when I came forward stating that Evans kicked Mr. Christopher Gettler? You file criminal charges against every other officer who is accused and terminated for filing a false police report. You didn’t because you knew I was innocent and a criminal court would find me innocent and expose your department for suppressing the truth and retaliation, that’s why.




The attacks will stop when the department states the truth about my innocence, PUBLICLY!!! I will not accept any type of currency/goods in exchange for the attacks to stop, nor do i want it. I want my name back, period. There is no negotiation. I am not the state department who states they do not negotiate with terrorist, because anybody with a Secret or TS/SCI has seen IIR’s on SIPR and knows that the US state department always negotiates by using CF countries or independent sovereign/neutral country to mediate and compromising.




This department has not changed from the Daryl Gates and Mark Fuhrman days. Those officers are still employed and have all promoted to Command staff and supervisory positions. I will correct this error. Are you aware that an officer (a rookie/probationer at the time) seen on the Rodney King videotape striking Mr. King multiple times with a baton on 3/3/91 is still employed by the LAPD and is now a Captain on the police department? Captain Rolando Solano is now the commanding officer of a LAPD police station (West LA division). As a commanding officer, he is now responsible for over 200 officers. Do you trust him to enforce department policy and investigate use of force investigations on arrestees by his officers? Are you aware Evans has since promoted to Sergeant after kicking Mr. Gettler in the face. Oh, you Violated a citizens civil rights? We will promote you. Same as LAPD did with the the officers from Metro involved in the May Day melee at MacArthur Park. They promoted them to Sergeant (a supervisor role).




No one is saying you can’t be prejudiced or a bigot. We are all human and hold prejudices. If you state that you don’t have prejudices, your lying! But, when you act on it and victimize innocent citizens and fellow innocen officers, than that is a concern.




For you officers who do the job in the name of JUSTICE, those of you who lost honest officers to this event, look at the name of those on the BOR and the investigating officers from PSB and Evans and ask them, how come you couldn’t tell the truth? Why did you terminate an honest officer and cover for a dishonest officer who victimized a mentally ill citizen.




Sometimes humans feel a need to prove they are the dominant race of a species and they inadvertently take kindness for weakness from another individual. You chose wrong.




Terminating officers because they expose a culture of lying, racism (from the academy), and excessive use of force will immediately change. PSB can not police their own and that has been proven. The blue line will forever be severed and a cultural change will be implanted. You have awoken a sleeping giant.




I am here to change and make policy. The culture of LAPD versus the community and honest/good officers needs to and will change. I am here to correct and calibrate your morale compasses to true north.




Those Caucasian officers who join South Bureau divisions (77th,SW,SE, an Harbor) with the sole intent to victimize minorities who are uneducated, and unaware of criminal law, civil law, and civil rights. You prefer the South bureau because a use of force/deadly force is likely and the individual you use UOF on will likely not report it. You are a high value target.




Those Black officers in supervisory ranks and pay grades who stay in south bureau (even though you live in the valley or OC) for the sole intent of getting retribution toward subordinate caucasians officers for the pain and hostile work environment their elders inflicted on you as probationers (P-1′s) and novice P-2′s. You are a high value target. You perpetuated the cycle of racism in the department as well. You breed a new generation of bigoted caucasian officer when you belittle them and treat them unfairly.




Those Hispanic officers who victimize their own ethnicity because they are new immigrants to this country and are unaware of their civil rights. You call them wetbacks to their face and demean them in front of fellow officers of different ethnicities so that you will receive some sort of acceptance from your colleagues. I’m not impressed. Most likely, your parents or grandparents were immigrants at one time, but you have forgotten that. You are a high value target.




Those lesbian officers in supervising positions who go to work, day in day out, with the sole intent of attempting to prove your misandrist authority (not feminism) to degrade male officers. You are a high value target.




Those Asian officers who stand by and observe everything I previously mentioned other officers participate in on a daily basis but you say nothing, stand for nothing and protect nothing. Why? Because of your usual saying, ” I……don’t like conflict”. You are a high value target as well.




Those of you who “go along to get along” have no backbone and destroy the foundation of courage. You are the enablers of those who are guilty of misconduct. You are just as guilty as those who break the code of ethics and oath you swore.




Citizens/non-combatants, do not render medical aid to downed officers/enemy combatants. They would not do the same for you. They will let you bleed out just so they can brag to other officers that they had a 187 caper the other day and can’t wait to accrue the overtime in future court subpoenas. As they always say, “that’s the paramedics job…not mine”. Let the balance of loss of life take place. Sometimes a reset needs to occur.




It is endless the amount of times per week officers arrest an individual, label him a suspect-arrestee-defendant and then before arraignment or trial realize that he is innocent based on evidence. You know what they say when they realize an innocent man just had his life turned upside down?. “I guess he should have stayed at home that day he was discovered walking down the street and matching the suspects description. Oh well, he appeared to be a dirtbag anyways”. Meanwhile the falsely accused is left to pick up his life, get a new, family, friends, and sense of self worth.




Don’t honor these fallen officers/dirtbags. When your family members die, they just see you as extra overtime at a crime scene and at a perimeter. Why would you value their lives when they clearly don’t value yours or your family members lives? I’ve heard many officers who state they see dead victims as ATV’s, Waverunners, RV’s and new clothes for their kids. Why would you shed a tear for them when they in return crack a smile for your loss because of the impending extra money they will receive in their next paycheck for sitting at your loved ones crime scene of 6 hours because of the overtime they will accrue. They take photos of your loved ones recently deceased bodies with their cellphones and play a game of who has the most graphic dead body of the night with officers from other divisions. This isn’t just the 20 something year old officers, this is the 50 year old officers with significant time on the job as well who participate.




You allow an officer, Thaniya Sungruenyos, to attempt to hack into my credit union account and still remain on the job even when Det. Zolezzi shows the evidence that the IP address (provided by LAPFCU) that attempted to hack into my account and change my username and password leads directly to her residence. You even allow this visibly disgusting looking officer to stay on the job when she perjures (lies) in court (Clark County Family Court) to the judge’s face and denies hacking into my personal credit union online account when I attempted to get my restraint order extended. Det. Zolezzi provided the evidence and you still do nothing.




How do you know when a police officer is lying??? When he begins his sentence with, “based on my experience and training”.




No one grows up and wants to be a cop killer. It was against everything I’ve ever was. As a young police explorer I found my calling in life. But, As a young police officer I found that the violent suspects on the street are not the only people you have to watch. It is the officer who was hired on to the department (pre-2000) before polygraphs were standard for all new hires and an substantial vetting in a backround investigation.




To those children of the officers who are eradicated, your parent was not the individual you thought they were. As you get older,you will see the evidence that your parent was a tyrant who loss their ethos and instead followed the path of moral corruptness. They conspired to hide and suppress the truth of misconduct on others behalf’s. Your parent will have a name and plaque on the fallen officers memorial in D.C. But, In all honesty, your parents name will be a reminder to other officers to maintain the oath they swore and to stay along the shoreline that has guided them from childhood to that of a local, state, or federal law enforcement officer.




Bratton, Beck, Hayes, Tingirides, Eisenberg, Martella, Quan, Evans, Hernandez, Villanueva/Gallegos, and Anderson. Your lack of ethics and conspiring to wrong a just individual are over.




Suppressing the truth will leave to deadly consequences for you and your family. There will be an element of surprise where you work, live, eat, and sleep. I will utilize ISR at your home, workplace, and all locations in between. I will utilize OSINT to discover your residences, spouses workplaces, and children’s schools. IMINT to coordinate and plan attacks on your fixed locations. Its amazing whats on NIPR. HUMINT will be utilized to collect personal schedules of targets. I never had the opportunity to have a family of my own, I’m terminating yours. Quan, Anderson, Evans, and BOR members Look your wives/husbands and surviving children directly in the face and tell them the truth as to why your children are dead.




Never allow a LAPPL union attorney to be a retired LAPD Captain,(Quan). He doesn’t work for you, your interest, or your name. He works for the department, period. His job is to protect the department from civil lawsuits being filed and their best interest which is the almighty dollar. His loyalty is to the department, not his client. Even when he knowingly knows your innocent and the BOR also knows your innocent after Christopher Gettler stated on videotape that he was kicked and Evans attorney confessed to the BOR off the record that she kicked Gettler.




The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants-TJ. This quote is not directed toward the US government which I fully support 100%. This is toward the LAPD who can not monitor itself. The consent decree should not have been lifted, ever.




I know your TTP’s, (techniques, tactics, and procedures). Any threat assessments you you generate will be useless. This is simple, I know your TTP’s and PPR’s. I will mitigate any of your attempts at preservation. ORM is my friend. I will mitigate all risks, threats and hazards. I assure you that Incident Command Posts will be target rich environments. KMA-367 license plate frames are great target indicators and make target selection even easier.




I will conduct DA operations to destroy, exploit and seize designated targets. If unsuccessful or unable to meet objectives in these initial small scale offensive actions, I will reassess my BDA and re-attack until objectives are met. I have nothing to lose. My personal casualty means nothing. Just alike AAF’s, ACM’s, and AIF’s, you can not prevail against an enemy combatant who has no fear of death. An enemy who embraces death is a lose, lose situation for their enemy combatants.




Hopefully you analyst have done your homework. You are aware that I have always been the top shot, highest score, an expert in rifle qualifications in every unit I’ve been in. I will utilize every bit of small arms training, demolition, ordnance, and survival training I’ve been given.

[K_style]

Manifesto part 2


Do you know why we are unsuccessful in asymmetrical and guerrilla warfare in CENTCOM theatre of operations? I’ll tell you. It’s not the inefficiency of our combatant commanders, planning, readiness or training of troops. Much like the Vietnam war, ACM, AAF, foreign fighters, Jihadist, and JAM have nothing to lose. They embrace death as it is a way of life. I simply don’t fear it. I am the walking exigent circumstance you created.

The Violence of action will be HIGH. I am the reason TAC alert was established. I will bring unconventional and asymmetrical warfare to those in LAPD uniform whether on or off duty. ISR is my strength and your weakness. You will now live the life of the prey. Your RD’s and homes away from work will be my AO and battle space. I will utilize every tool within INT collections that I learned from NMITC in Dam Neck. You have misjudged a sleeping giant. There is no conventional threat assessment for me. JAM, New Ba’ath party, 1920 rev BGE, ACM, AAF, AQAP, AQIM and AQIZ have nothing on me. Do not deploy airships or gunships. SA-7 Manpads will be waiting. As you know I also own Barrett .50′s so your APC are defunct and futile.

You better have all your officers radio/phone muster (code 1) on or off duty every hour, on the hour.

Do not attempt to shadow or conduct any type of ISR on me. I have the inventory listing of all UC vehicles at Piper Tech and the home addresses of any INT analyst at JRIC and detachment locations. My POA is always POI and always true. This will be a war of attrition and a Pyrrhic and Camdean Victory for myself. You may have the resources and manpower but you are reactive and predictable in your op plans and TTP’s. I have the strength and benefits of being unpredictable, unconventional, and unforgiving. Do not waste your time with briefs and tabletops.

Whatever pre-planned responses you have established for a scenario like me, shelve it. Whatever contingency plan you have, shelve it. Whatever tertiary plan you’ve created, shelve it. I am a walking exigent circumstance with no OFF or reset button. JRIC, DOJ, LASD, FBI and other local LE can’t assist and should not involve themselves in a matter that does not concern them. For all other agencies, do not involve yourself in this capture or recovery of me. Look at the big picture of the situation. They (LAPD) created the situation. I will harm no outside agency unless it is a deadly force/IDOL situation. With today’s budgeting and fiscal mess, you guys can not afford lose several officers to IOD or KIA/EOW. Plus, other officers should not have to take on the additional duties and responsibilities of dead officers. Think about their families, outside agencies, Chiefs/Directors.

Outside agencies and individual officers on patrol. If you recognize my vehicle, and confirm it is my vehicle thru a dmv/want warrant check. It behoves you to respond to dispatch that your query was for information purposes only. If you proceed with a traffic stop or attempt to notify other officers of my location or for backup you will not live to see the medal of valor you were hoping to receive for your actions. Think before you attempt to intervene. You will not survive. Your family will receive that medal of valor posthumously. It will gather dust on the fireplace mantel for years. Then one day, it will go in a shoe box with other memories. Your mother will lose a son or daughter. Your significant other will be left alone, but they will find someone else to fill your void in the future and make them just as happy. Your children, if you have them, will call someone else mommy or daddy. Don’t be selfish. Your vest is only a level II or IIIA, think about it.

No amount of IMINT, MASINT, and ELINT assist you in capturing me. I am off the grid. You better use your feet, tongue and every available DOD/ NON-DOD HUMINT agency, contractor to find me. I know your route to and from home, and your division. I know your significant others routine, your children’s best friends and recess. I know Your Sancha’s gym hours and routine. I assure you that the casualty rate will be high. Because of that, no one will remember your name. You will merely be a DR# and “that guy” who was KIA/EOW or long term IOD/light duty in the kit room. This is exactly why “station 500″ was created. Unfortunately, orphanages will be making a comeback in the 21st century.

If you had a well regulated AWB, this would not happen. The time is now to reinstitute a ban that will save lives. Why does any sportsman need a 30 round magazine for hunting? Why does anyone need a suppressor? Why does anyone need a AR15 rifle? This is the same small arms weapons system utilized in eradicating Al Qaeda, Taliban, and every enemy combatant since the Vietnam war. Don’t give me that crap that its not a select fire or full auto rifle like the DoD uses. That’s bullshit because troops who carry the M-4/M-16 weapon system for combat ops outside the wire rarely utilize the select fire function when in contact with enemy combatants. The use of select fire probably isn’t even 1% in combat. So in essence, the AR-15 semiautomatic rifle is the same as the M-4/M-16. These do not need to be purchased as easily as walking to your local Walmart or striking the enter key on your keyboard to “add to cart”. All the firearms utilized in my activities are registered to me and were legally purchased at gun stores and private party transfers. All concealable weapons (pistols) were also legally register in my name at police stations or FFL’s. Unfortunately, are you aware that I obtained class III weapons (suppressors) without a background check thru NICS or DROS completely LEGALLY several times? I was able to use a trust account that I created on quicken will maker and a $10 notary charge at a mailbox etc. to obtain them legally. Granted, I am not a felon, nor have a DV misdemeanor conviction or active TRO against me on a NCIC file. I can buy any firearm I want, but should I be able to purchase these class III weapons (SBR’s, and suppressors) without a background check and just a $10 notary signature on a quicken will maker program? The answer is NO. I’m not even a resident of the state i purchased them in. Lock n Load just wanted money so they allow you to purchase class III weapons with just a notarized trust, military ID. Shame on you, Lock n Load. NFA and ATF need new laws and policies that do not allow loopholes such as this. In the end, I hope that you will realize that the small arms I utilize should not be accessed with the ease that I obtained them. Who in there right mind needs a f***ing silencer!!! who needs a freaking SBR AR15? No one. No more Virginia Tech, Columbine HS, Wisconsin temple, Aurora theatre, Portland malls, Tucson rally, Newtown Sandy Hook. Whether by executive order or thru a bi-partisan congress an assault weapons ban needs to be re-instituted. Period!!!

Mia Farrow said it best. “Gun control is no longer debatable, it’s not a conversation, its a moral mandate.”

Sen. Feinstein, you are doing the right thing in leading the re-institution of a national AWB. Never again should any public official state that their prayers and thoughts are with the family. That has become cliche’ and meaningless. Its time for action. Let this be your legacy that you bestow to America. Do not be swayed by obstacles, antagaonist, and naysayers. Remember the innocent children at Austin, Kent, Stockton, Fullerton, San Diego, Iowa City, Jonesboro, Columbine, Nickel Mines, Blacksburg, Springfield, Red Lake, Chardon, Aurora, and Newtown. Make sure this never happens again!!!

In my cache you will find several small arms. In the cache, Bushmaster firearms, Remington precision rifles, and AAC Suppressors (silencers). All of these small arms are manufactured by Cerberus/Freedom Group. The same company responsible for the Portland mall shooting, Webster , NY, and Sandy Hook massacre.

You disrespect the office of the POTUS/Presidency and Commander in Chief. You call him Kenyan, mongroid, halfrican, muslim, and FBHO when in essence you are to address him as simply, President. The same as you did to President George W. Bush and all those in the highest ranking position of our land before him. Just as I always have. You question his birth certificate, his educational and professional accomplishments, and his judeo-christian beliefs. You make disparaging remarks about his dead parents. You never questioned the fact that his former opponent, the honorable Senator John McCain, was not born in the CONUS or that Bush had a C average in his undergrad. Electoral Candidates children (Romney) state they want to punch the president in the face during debates with no formal repercussions. No one even questioned the fact that the son just made a criminal threat toward the President. You call his wife a Wookie. Off the record, I love your new bangs, Mrs. Obama. A woman whose professional and educational accomplishments are second to none when compared to recent First wives. You call his supporters, whether black, brown, yellow, or white, leeches, FSA, welfare recipients, and ni$&er lovers. You say this openly without any discretion. Before you start with your argument that you believe I would vote for Obama because he has the same skin color as me, f*** you. I didn’t vote in this last election as my choice of candidate, John Huntsman, didn’t win the primary candidacy for his party. Mr. President, I haven’t agreed with all of your decisions but of course I haven’t agreed with all of your predecessors decisions. I think you’ve done a hell of a job with what you have been dealt and how you have managed it. I shed a tear the night you were initially elected President in 2008. I never thought that day would occur. A black man elected president in the U.S. in my lifetime. I cracked a smiled when you were re-elected in 2012 because I really didn’t think you were going to pull that one off. Romney, stop being a sore loser. You could’ve exited graciously and still contributed significantly to public service, not now. Mr. President, get back to work. Many want to see you fail as they have stated so many times previously. Unfortunately, if you fail, the U.S. fails but your opponents do not concern themselves about the big picture. Do not forget your commitment to transparency in your administration. Sometimes I believe your administration forgets that. America, you will realize today and tomorrow that this world is made up of all human beings who have the same general needs and wants in life for themselves, their kin, community, and state. That is the freedom to LIVE and LOVE. They may eat different foods, enjoy different music, have different dialects, or speak a second language, but in essence are no different from you and I. This is America. We are not a perfect sovereign country as we have our own flaws but we are the closest that will ever exist.

Unfortunately, this is not the first time an authoritative figure has lied on me.

Mr. Freid, assistant principal, Cypress HS. Remember when you lied to my mother and the police officer in your office about stating that you never stated to me in a private conversation that you know the theft suspect (Miranda) stole my watch. Let me refresh your memory. A physical education teachers assistant, a student, stole the list of combination codes to peoples lockers, from the P.E. teacher. That student then opened many of those lockers and stole students personal property. My watch was taken in that multi theft an I reported it to you. A week later you discovered that the theft suspect was Paul Miranda, a student. You stated to me in private that you know for a fact he stole my property. When I attempted to retrieve my property from the suspect. Campus security was called and you lied and stated that you never stated to me that you “know he stole my watch”. You sat there and lied to their faces right in front of me. You said it with such a deliberate, stern face. I never forgot that and was not surprised when 13 years later I was lied on again in the BOR by Teresa Evans. maybe you can confess to your family at the very least in the private of your own home. After that, contact my mother and apologize for lying to her in 1996.

If possible, I want my brain preserved for science/research to study the effects of severe depression on an individual’s brain. Since 6/26/08 when I was relieved of duty and 1/2/09 when I was terminated I have been afflicted with severe depression. I’ve had two CT scans during my lifetime that are in my medical record at Kaiser Permanente. Both are from concussions resulting from playing football. The first one was in high school, 10/96. The second was in college and occurred in 10/99. Both were conducted at Kaiser Permanente hospitals in LA/Orange county. These two CT scans should give a good baseline for my brain activity before severe depression began in late 2008.

Sure, many of you “law enforcement experts and specialist” will state, “in all my years this is the worst……..”, Stop!!! That’s not important. Ask yourselves what would cause somebody to take these drastic measures like I did. That’s what is important.

To my friends listed below, I wish we could have grown old together and spent more time together. When you reminisce of our friendship and experiences, think of that and that only. Do not dwell on my recent actions the last few days. This was a necessary evil that had to be executed in order for me to obtain my NAME back. The only thing that changes policy and garners attention is death.

Luis Sanchez, greatest friend, Marine officer, aviator, and an even better father and husband. I Couldn’t have had a better big brother than you. Your spoken wisdom was always retained by me, you old salty Mustang. You sternly told me that no matter what I accomplish I will always be a ni#%er in many individuals eyes. At the time, I did not comprehend your words. I do now. I never forgot the quote you state below. I love you bro.

I never saw a wild thing feel sorry for itself. A small bird will drop frozen dead from a bough without ever feeling sorry for itself. –D.H. Lawrence

Jason Valadao, greatest friend, Naval officer, aviator, Great Father, husband, doctor, and even better human being. I always strived to live my life parallel to your similar values and personal disciplines. Danika is lucky to have found a man like yourself, and you are fortunate to have married an irrefutable imperfect woman. Always focus on your IMMEDIATE family as they are the ones who have loved you unconditionally and always been their to support you in difficult times. I always lived my life as WWJD (what would Jason do). Danika, take care of this guy. Jason, I’m sorry I missed your wedding and you had to find another best man. I’m sorry my predicament with the department stopped me from watching you and Danika get married and arguing with you about issues that were insignificant when I was really angry at the LAPD for what they did to me. I’m deeply sorry and I love you guys.

James Usera, great friend, attorney, father, husband, and the most cynical/blatant/politically incorrect friend a man can have. Best quality about you in college and now is that you never sugar coated the truth. I will miss our political discussions that always turned argumentative. Thanks for introducing me to outdoor sports like fishing, hunting, mudding, and also respect for the land and resources. Us city boys don’t get out much like you Alaskans. You even introduced me to PBR. A beer, that when you’re a poor college student is completely acceptable to get buzzed off of. I’m sorry I’ll never get to go on that moose and bear hunt with you. I love you bro.

Kinta Smith, greatest friend, accountant, entrepreneur, and even better Human being. You are probably the most well balanced person I’ve ever met and the most driven for success. In college, and after graduation, I was inspired by your personal drive. Never settle. When you make your first million, promise me you won’t forget to enjoy it a bit. I know your first reaction will be to invest it somewhere else. Spend a little, just a little. I love you bro.

Jason Young, great friend, entrepeneur, husband and father. You showed me the importance of fatherhood and friendship. Love you bro.

Suzie Clark Cunningham, Kassandra Harrell, Melinda Yates, Cal Jackson, Ryan Smith, The Rebelledos, The Banks, Ben Bines, J. Work, Bill O’neill, Jeremy Fletcher, and Rob Harriston.

You guys were all important and very special to me. Don’t be angry with me. I missed some of your weddings and unfortunately, some of your funerals. This was a necessary evil.

Some say it is my fault that I was terminated. Yes, DDX, I remember you stating this to me in an angry fit. You said that I should have kept my mouth shut about another officer’s misconduct. Maybe you were right. But I’m not built like others, it’s not in my DNA and my history has always shown that. When you view the video of the suspect stating he was kicked by Evans, maybe you will see that I was a decent person after all. I told the truth. It still hurt that you abandoned me in my time of need. I hope you’re happy, that’s all I ever wanted for you.

Sgt. Leonard Perez, you meant well but you should have known with your time on the job that the department would attempt to protect someone like Evans because of her time on the job, personal friendships, and ethicity. I’m not angry with you, but you should have known as an IA investigator.

Sgt Maggie Faust LPPD, Ofcr John Thomas LPPD (ret), and Chief Eric Nunez LPPD, your guidance and mentoring as a young police explorer was second to none and invaluable as a young man, police officer, and naval officer. Sgt Faust, you forewarned me long ago about joining LAPD as they were “different” and operated differently from other modern law enforcement agencies. I now know it was your humbleness and respect for all who wear the badge and protect their communities that you didn’t just express what you wanted to say, that they lack values and basic ethics as law enforcement officers. Chief Nunez, your f***ing awesome. Thanks for the long talks over the years when I was an explorer, college student, Naval officer, and Police officer. Your are a great leader and carry your heart on your sleeve. Your son will be a great Air Force officer with the upringing you provided. John, what can I say? Your just an awesome person and my first exposure to what law enforcement was really about was on our ride alongs. Your realistic approach and empathetic approach to treating all people as humans first is something I carried with me daily. Thank you, every one of you.

Dr. Funahashi, thank you for the superb surgery you performed on my knee on 7/98 in Irvine, CA. I never had the opportunity to thank you for allowing me to live a life free of knee joint pain. Thank you.

CM1 Bissett (Ret.), I learned more from you about leadership than most of my own commanders. You lived by a strict ethos of get it done, and get it done right. I wanted to attend your retirement, I really did. But because of my predicament I was unable to. Hope you and Ritchie are still together. I’ve always held you in high regard.

Sgt Maj. Kenneth “Rock” Rocquemore USMC, Thank you for the intense instruction and mentorship and time spent forging me into a never quit officer. You were challenging as a DI. You made sure the vicious and intense personality I possess was discovered. On a lighter note….Don’t feel humbled you never broke me. I made it a personal goal to never give up years before. The Corp is lucky to have you at the front. Your leadership is essential and needed for all marines, especially staff NCO’s and mentorship and advisement to company grade officers. You are the epitome of a US marine and never forget that.

I thank my friends for the awesome shared experiences. I thank the unnamed women I dated over my lifetime for the great and sometimes not so great sex.

It’s kind of sad I won’t be around to view and enjoy The Hangover III. What an awesome trilogy. Todd Phillips, don’t make anymore Hangovers after the third, takes away the originality of its foundation. World War Z looks good and The Walking Dead season 3 (second half) looked intriguing. Damn, gonna miss shark week.

Mr. Vice President, do your due diligence when formulating a concise and permanent national AWB plan. Future generations of Americans depend on your plan and advisement to the president. I’ve always been a fan of yours and consider you one of the few genuine and charismatic politicians. Damn, sounds like an oxymoron calling you an honest politician. It’s the truth.

Hillary Clinton. You’ll make one hell of a president in 2016. Much like your husband, Bill, you will be one of the greatest. Look at Castro in San Antonio as a running mate or possible secretary of state. He’s (good people) and I have faith and confidence in him. Look after Bill. He was always my favorite President. Chelsea grew up to be one hell of an attractive woman. No disrespect to her husband.

Gov. Chris Christie. What can I say? You’re the only person I would like to see in the White House in 2016 other than Hillary. You’re America’s no shit taking uncle. Do one thing for your wife, kids, and supporters. Start walking at night and eat a little less, not a lot less, just a little. We want to see you around for a long time. Your leadership is greatly needed.

Wayne LaPierre, President of the NRA, you’re a vile and inhumane piece of shit. You never even showed 30 seconds of empathy for the children, teachers, and families of Sandy Hook. You deflected any type of blame/responsibility and directed it toward the influence of movies and the media. You are a failure of a human being. May all of your immediate and distant family die horrific deaths in front of you.

Chris Matthews, Joe Scarborough, Pat Harvey, Brian Williams, Soledad Obrien, Wolf Blitzer, Meredith Viera, Tavis Smiley, and Anderson Cooper, keep up the great work and follow Cronkite’s lead. I hold many of you in the same regard as Tom Brokaw and the late Peter Jennings. Cooper, stop nagging and berating your guest, they’re your (guest). Mr. Scarborough, we met at McGuire’s pub in P-cola in 2002 when I was stationed there. It was an honor conversing with you about politics, family, and life.

Willie Geist, you’re a talented and charismatic journalist. Stop with all the talk show shenanigans and get back to your core of reporting. Your future is brighter than most.

Revoke the citizenship of Fareed Zakaria and deport him. I’ve never heard a positive word about America or its interest from his mouth, ever. On the same day, give Piers Morgan an indefinite resident alien and Visa card. Mr. Morgan, the problem that many American gun owners have with you and your continuous discussion of gun control is that you are not an American citizen and have an accent that is distinct and clarifies that you are a foreigner. I want you to know that I agree with you 100% on enacting stricter firearm laws but you must understand that your critics will always have in the back of their mind that you are native to a country that we won our sovereignty from while using firearms as a last resort in defense and you come from a country that has no legal private ownership of firearms. That is disheartening to American gun owners and rightfully so.

The honorable President George H.W. Bush, they never give you enough credit for your successful Presidency. You were always one of my favorite Presidents (2nd favorite). I hope your health improves greatly. You are the epitome of an American and service to country.

General Petraeus, you made a mistake that the majority of men make once, twice, or unfortunately many times in a lifetime. You are human. You thought with your penis. It’s okay.I personally believe you should have never resigned and told your critics to shove it. You only answer to two people regarding the affair, your wife and children, period. I hope you return to government service to your country as it is visibly in your DNA.

General Colin Powell, your book “My American Journey” solidified my decision to join the military after college. I had always intended to serve, but your book and journey motivated me. You are an inspiration to all Americans and influenced me greatly.

To all SEA’s (senior enlisted advisers), you are just as important if not a greater viability to large and small commands. It’s time you take a more active role in leading your enlisted and advising officers. These are not your twilight years or time to relax. You can either strengthen the tip of the spear, or make it brittle. You decide.

Pat Harvey, I’ve always thought you carried yourself professionally and personally the way a strong black woman should. Your articulation and speech is second to none. You are the epitome of a journalist/anchor. You are America.

Ellen Degeneres, continue your excellent contribution to entertaining America and bringing the human factor to entertainment. You changed the perception of your gay community and how we as Americans view the LGBT community. I congratulate you on your success and opening my eyes as a young adult, and my generation to the fact that you are know different from us other than who you choose to love. Oh, and you Prop 8 supporters, why the f*** do you care who your neighbor marries. Hypocritical pieces of shit.

Westboro Baptist Church, may you all burn slowly in a fire, not from smoke inhalation, but from the flames and only the flames.

Tebow, I really wanted to see you take charge of an offense again and the game. You are not a good QB by todays standards, but you are a great football player who knows how to lead a team and WIN. You will be “Tebowing” when you reach your next team. I have faith in you. Get out of that circus they call the Jets and away from the reality TV star, Rex Ryan, and Mark Rapist Sanchez.

Christopher Walz, you impressed me in Inglorious Basterds. After viewing Django Unchained, I was sold. I have come to the conclusion that you are well on your way to becoming one of the greats if not already and show glimpses of Daniel Day Lewis and Morgan Freeman-esque type qualities of greatness. Trust me when I say that you will be one of the greatest ever.

Jennifer Beals, Serena Williams, Grae Drake, Lisa Nicole-Carson, Diana Taurasi, N’bushe Wright, Brenda Villa, Kate Winslet, Ashley Graham, Erika Christensen, Gabrielle Union, Isabella Soprano, Zain Verjee, Tamron Hall, Gina Carano, America Ferrara, Giana Michaels, Nene, Natalie Portman, Queen Latifah, Michelle Rodriguez, Anjelah Johnson, Kelly Clarkson, Nora Jones, Laura Prepon, Margaret Cho, and Rutina Wesley, you are THE MOST beautiful women on this planet, period. Never settle, professionally or personally.

Dave Brubeck’s “Take Five” is the greatest piece of music ever, period. Hanz Zimmer, William Bell, Eric Clapton, BB King, Bob Marley, Sam Cooke, Metallica, Rob Zombie, Nora Jones, Marvin Gaye, Jay-Z, and the King (Louis Armstrong) are musical prodigies.

Jeffrey Toobin and David Gergen, you are political geniuses and modern scholars. Hopefully Toobin is nominated for the Supreme Court and implements some damn common sense and reasoning instead of partisan bickering. But in true Toobin fashion, we all know he would not accept the nomination.

John and Ken from KFI, never mute your facts and personal opinions. You are one of the few media personalities who speak the truth, even when the truth is not popular. I will miss listening to your discussions.

Bill Handel, your effin awesome. For years I enjoyed your show.

Anthony Bourdain, you’re a modern renaissance man who epitomizes the saying “too cool for school”.

Larry David, Kevin Hart, the late Patrice Oneal, Lisa Lampanelli, Chris Rock, Jerry Seinfeld, Louis CK, Dave Chapelle, Jon Stewart, Wanda Sykes, Dennis Miller, and Jeff Ross are pure geniuses. I’m a big fan of all of your work. As a child my mom caught me watching Def Jam comedy at midnight when I should have been asleep. Instead of scolding me, the next night she let me stay up late and watch George Carlin, Eddie Murphy and Richard Pryor comedy specials with her for hours. My sides were sore for days.

Larry David, I agree. 72-82 degrees is way to hot in a residence. 68 , degrees is perfect.

Cyclist, I have no problem sharing the road with you. But, at least go the f***ing speed limit posted or get off the road!!! That is a feasible request. Livestrong you fraudulent assholes.

Cardinal Mahoney, you are in essence a predator yourself as you enabled your subordinates to molest multiple children in the church over many decades. May you die a long and slow painful death.

If you continuously followed me while I was walking at dusk/night I would confront you as well. Too bad Trayvon didn’t smash your skull completely open, Zim. While Trayvon’s body erodes to bones 6 feet under, Zimmerman has put on no less than 40 pounds while out on bail. Zimmerman was arrested for battery on a Peace officer and avoided jail/prison because he completed a diversion program. Thats a history of being an asshole. Zimmerman couldn’t get hired by a LE agency because of poor credit/and a history of violence/restraining orders with women. So what does he do? Designate himself, neighborhood watch captain and make complaints to his city council about the horrible work ethic and laziness of the officers patrolling his neighborhood. Good one Zim. How classy that your father attempts to use his veterans status “disabled veteran” during your bail hearing but doesn’t state what his disability percentage is. Prior service personnel know it can be 5% disability to 100%. You and your attorneys always avoid mentioning your fathers occupation as a magistrate/judge because I’m sure he’s utilized his position to get you out of way more jams then the public has discovered and that your family is not indigent. Oh, tell your wife to stop perjuring herself in court.

KCCO

Anonymous, you are hated, vilified, and considered an enemy to the state. I personally view you as a culture and a necessity that brings truth to a cloaked world. Forge ahead!

Charlie Sheen, you’re effin awesome.

My opinion on women in combat MOS’, Designators, Rates, and AFSC’s. I wish all of you who attempt to pursue combat occupational roles the greatest success in completing, graduating, and qualifying in their respective schools/courses. Many want to see you fail. Remember, everyone of you is a pioneer. There was a time when they didn’t allow blacks to fight the good fight. This is your civil rights. Don’t quit!!!

It’s time to allow gay service member’s spouses to utilize the same benefits that all heterosexual dependents are eligible for. Medical, Dental, Tricare, Deers, SGLI, BX, Commissary, Milstar, MWR, etc. Flag officers, lets be honest. You can’t really give a valid argument to as why gays shouldn’t be eligible as every month a new state enacts laws that allow same sex marriage.

LGBT community and supporters, the same way you have the right to voice your opinion on acceptance of gay marriage, Chick Fil-A has a right to voice their beliefs as well. That’s what makes America so great. Freedom of expression. Don’t be assholes and boycott/degrade their business and customers who patronize the locations. They make some damn good chicken! Vandalizing (graffiti) their locations does not help any cause.

Mr. Bill Cosby, you are a reasonable and talented man who has spoken the truth of the cultural anomalies within the black communities that need to change now. The black communities’ resentment toward you is because they don’t like hearing the truth or having their clear and evident dirty laundry aired to the nation. The problem is, the country is not blind nor dumb. They believe we are animals. Do not mute your unvarnished truthful speech or moral compass. Blacks must strive for more in life than bling, hoes, and cars. The current culture is an epidemic that leaves them with no discernible future. They’re suffocating and don’t even know it. MLK Jr. Would be mortified at what he worked so hard for in our acceptance as equal beings and how unfortunately we stopped progressing and began digressing. Chicago’s youth violence is a prime example of how our black communities values have declined. We can not address this nation’s intolerant issues until we address our own communities morality issues first. Accountability. We need to hold ou”

[jamg]

a better link

http://content.clearchannel.com/cc-common/mlib/616/02/616_1360213161.pdf

[K_style]

a better link

http://content.clearchannel.com/cc-common/mlib/616/02/616_1360213161.pdf

Thanks.. I just heard he is still at large... wonder how it is in Socal right now..

[trentjsd]

Some of the craziest ISH I have ever read. But Im happy he is standing up for what he believes in. Our system is more then corrupt from cops to politicians.

[sw20>>s14]

I think it's hilarious that two pick up trucks were shot up by the police for mistaken identity and later classified as "collateral damage."

[trentjsd]

This is socal, Shot a kid outside my house for no reason. We all saw it then the next day in the paper. Kid shot after attempting to run cop over.... Just bs and those cops who try to be honest get the boot. If you can't beat them join them.:down:

[K_style]

This is socal, Shot a kid outside my house for no reason. We all saw it then the next day in the paper. Kid shot after attempting to run cop over.... Just bs and those cops who try to be honest get the boot. If you can't beat them join them.:down:

That is just sadness... whatever takes it to cover their mistakes and wrong doings..

Those bad ones make good cops look bad if still there are some.

[jordaninnovations]

Well, I have a conspiracy theory that LAPD won't capture him alive because he might speak about corruption.

FACT.

It will end in a "gun battle" and no one will care who shot first, because he's already labeled a "cop killer"

[drscooper]

dang man crazy read. thanks for sharing

[cgtdream]

Amazing how many people either show empathy for what is going on. Wouldnt of expected this from zilvia...or maybe some of the more vocal members havent shared there time honored thoughts yet...

I for one stand up for what the man is trying to do and his reasoning behind it all. Although is methods are a bit over the top and drastic...

On another note, there are alot of folks on other channels speaking of revolution because of this guy...what do you folks think?

[spiderlone]

once again!

fuck the police fuck fuck the police jay and silent bob funny scene - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKuMhpb1gOI)

[HyperTek]

I see he sent a cd/dvd or whatever to Anderson Cooper on Feb 1st. than Cooper didn't know about it til recently they brought it to his attention.... sadly from the news article I read, they turned it over to police, hope the got to watch it!!

This man will have wasted his life for nothing if this does not get brought up to a bigger picture.

[EDacIouSX]

Although I completely agree with this crazy christopher dorner guy.... I don't agree with how he killed innocent people. That girl and her fiance... totally wrong. If anything he should have just targeted the corrupt cops instead of innocent people.

And, I've been watching the news a lot today, you can totally tell that the cops are trying to distance themselves from this person as much as possible. Any time a reporter tries to ask if he did get wrongfully kicked out of the LAPD they COMPLETELY and UTTERLY dodge the question and do everything they can to convince people that it was justified. Local fox news was even able to dig up information that proves "Ofcr. Teresa Evans" kicked a suspect in the chest and face.



One of the chief of police even went as far to say that the people out there who are trying to protect you (referring to us civilians) are on the line and serving our country. They fail to remember that christopher dorner put his life on the line to serve and protect our country too.... I don't know man, the police are just trying to cover their asses right now for all the bullshit that they let slide. You would think people in such a profession would hold themselves to high morale and ethical standards but it's just not the case.

[FRpilot]

Sounds like some real life V for Vendetta shit going on...

His manifesto is too long to read right now, but I read bits and pieces of it and I also read that Yahoo article earlier. Of course, the Yahoo article only pulls certain quotes from his manifesto to make him look bad such as:

One passage from the manifesto reads, "I will bring unconventional and asymmetrical warfare to those in LAPD uniform whether on or off duty."
"I never had the opportunity to have a family of my own," it reads. "I'm terminating yours."

[cgtdream]

One thing to note, for those that really care at least, there are like 3 versions of that manifesto all over the interwebs so far all edited. The one in this thread is the only un-edited copy left almost...

[Matej]

One passage from the manifesto reads, "I will bring unconventional and asymmetrical warfare to those in LAPD uniform whether on or off duty."
"I never had the opportunity to have a family of my own," it reads. "I'm terminating yours."
Reporting and quoting out of context by official news outlets should be illegal. I do not understand how the media is allowed to regularly partake in this practice with no consequences.

(My post is unrelated to the specific case at hand and I am not defending the guy, only complaining about the general state of things.)

[mantas]

How about another liberal with a gun, killing innocent people and a bunch of zilvia liberals supporting it. I read the manifesto, i too have been targeted racially quite a few times. I have never been fired from a job but i would not kill anyone for being fired or having been called any racial term. Funny thing is he says in the manifesto that he is a supporter of gun control, what a joke. All of you saying its fine for him to do whay he is doing, you are all lunatics. What if he shot one of your family members? Your brother/sister and the finance. Im sure the LAPD has some corruption within but every organization does, and as long as humans are in charge of companies it will persist. Tell me none of you turned a blind eye on something you stood against! In no way is it justified for this pos to go around an kill innocent people.

[BoredEE]

Sounds like he got rail-roaded, but he rants a bit too much.


LAPD Shot Women During Manhunt For Christopher Dorner | Neon Tommy (http://www.neontommy.com/news/2013/02/lapd-shot-women-during-manhunt-christopher-dorner)

This is an interesting twist. He's really got the police nervous.

[cgtdream]

How about another liberal with a gun, killing innocent people and a bunch of zilvia liberals supporting it. I read the manifesto, i too have been targeted racially quite a few times. I have never been fired from a job but i would not kill anyone for being fired or having been called any racial term. Funny thing is he says in the manifesto that he is a supporter of gun control, what a joke. All of you saying its fine for him to do whay he is doing, you are all lunatics. What if he shot one of your family members? Your brother/sister and the finance. Im sure the LAPD has some corruption within but every organization does, and as long as humans are in charge of companies it will persist. Tell me none of you turned a blind eye on something you stood against! In no way is it justified for this pos to go around an kill innocent people.

Sounds like you read the media edited version....

[BoredEE]

It is endless the amount of times per week officers arrest an individual, label him a suspect-
arrestee-defendant and then before arraignment or trial realize that he is innocent based on
evidence. You know what they say when they realize an innocent man just had his life turned
upside down?. "I guess he should have stayed at home that day he was discovered walking down
the street and matching the suspects description. Oh well, he appeared to be a dirtbag anyways".
Meanwhile the falsely accused is left to pick up his life, get a new, family, friends, and sense of
self worth.

Oddly apt passage to the two women who were shot.

[mantas]

I highly doubt i read the edited version. I skimmed over all the versions and this was the longest and by far the most detailed. All im saying is, two wrongs does not make one right. Many people get fired, many careers get ruined by scum in corporations organizations whatever. But it does not justify the victim to go around and kill others. It does not matter how mad i got at anyone i would not kill any human being, unless i felt my life was in danger and te only way to prevent my death was to kill the attacker.

[Aroddalobster]

In the one sentence he addresses his writing skills, he leaves out a "g" from "writing"

"Judge my writin/grammar skills for yourself."

So close.

[240drifter1]

This is fucking crazy.

But it doesnt suprise me, and id say somthing big is about to go down if hes still on the loose.

[LB 180SX]

i wonder what going through the minds of the names stated on the manifesto .
reminds me of the movie 'Law Abiding Citizens"

[Teddy]

The two ladies that were shot happened about a mile from my house just as I was leaving for work...

I don't know what he will be able to accomplish if his plans go through, but I'm rooting for him.

[240drifter1]

They found his truck burned in the woods.

http://director-lang-ieng.medianewsgroup.com/p.php?a=QEFTLFFfWV1QWF5BWClHRFdEUj8nYXplKzU7MDQ%2B PiUiPjQnOicjKDM%2BLiIoNDsuPyYrOSc6LjIqPDE%3D&m=1360287443

[mantas]

In the one sentence he addresses his writing skills, he leaves out a "g" from "writing"

"Judge my writin/grammar skills for yourself."

So close.

You forgot your for you're. Many errors in there but he writes pretty good for a crazy person.

[mantas]

Food for thought - cops dont kill people because they want to, they do it because its purely human error. Every cop knows their job is on the line any time they draw their weapon. And since this is a career for almost all of them, they dont want to be that guy that got booted for a shooting or went to jail for it. Its human error, but when criminals go out and kill people, it is intended to cause harm or kill. Im sure there are a few that are former criminals or they cant wait to shoot at someone but most would rather not because it will only bring many headaches for them. This ex cop is a murderer and this is not a movie you are watching unfold, this is real life and rooting for the villain is not very cool in this situation.

[DS562]

I was actively learning the ropes of law enforcement because i was going to be an officer. i've been on many ride alongs and personally know a lot of officers. one thing many experienced officers will nail into your brain is "do not let this job become your life because any little move you make is a risk" many retired/terminated officers will commit suicide because they feel utterly useless without their badge. this guy may or may not have let law enforcement become his world, but if what he says happened (IA siding with commanding officer) is true and he did get fired because of department corruption, i can completely understand his rage. im not rooting for him in any way, but i can sympathize.
you can report a case of police brutality and hope you dont fall victim to corruption, or you can ignore it and hope no witnesses come forward. in most cases, damned if you do and damned if you dont.

[Homeboyx]

I knew it! The police shooting the 2 women was a complete disregard though, they didn't even give the chance for the people to walk out of the damn truck for peeps sake! That was the epitomy of the shoot now ask questions later saying. At this point it's a shoot on sight type of deal. He talked too much and now he's getting shut down for it, permanently. Pretty sad.. This will definitely raise further uprisings imo.

[HyperTek]

was there any evidence that pointed him to the double homicide in the first place? doesn't seem like any motive to kill that couple since he is mostly against corrupted cops as his target.

[jamg]

Cali brahs- i read on reddit that they are searching homes without warrants.

be careful and hide all your car stuff lol

[mantas]

Cali brahs- i read on reddit that they are searching homes without warrants.

be careful and hide all your car stuff lol

Now that would be fucked up. And i really do not doubt the fact that they would do that. The government has really pushed the boundaries of the constitution to its limits. People need to overthrow this whole administration and not by force, by voting for the right people. It would be great if we could get a brand new congress, house, local gov't etc. just vote in brand new leaders that give a shit about this country, i think then less psychos would go on killing sprees too.

[Supergoji]

saddly voting them out wont work at all

[mantas]

saddly voting them out wont work at all

On second thought you are right. I guess we are fucked for now, unless a miracle happens and all the scum politicians fall over and croak. Lol

[Aki180sx]

If you live in Cali and own a truck, have a friend drive you to a rental car place and get a car to drive around for a week or so.

Also park your truck at your neighbors house.

[VROOOM]

If you live in Cali and own a truck, have a friend drive you to a rental car place and get a car to drive around for a week or so.

Also park your truck at your neighbors house.

they found his truck burnt up in Big Bear. i dont think they are looking for that truck anymore.

[Aki180sx]

Ya I'm sure that will put an end to the obvious "shoot first ask questions later" plan of finding him.

They were also clearly looking for a Nissan not a Toyota tundra or Honda ridgeline.

I think at this point the police have used up all of what little logic they possessed when this started, so I think it's better just to play it safe and not get in the way of the firing squad that is ripping trough Cali wearing badges.

[Matej]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-7GB-7ZRzb4A/TtKEEd9499I/AAAAAAAAA08/pFRLh3Pnsu4/s400/Serpico_wallpapers_4175.jpg

[TougeLove]

They found his truck burned in the woods.

http://director-lang-ieng.medianewsgroup.com/p.php?a=QEFTLFFfWV1QWF5BWClHRFdEUj8nYXplKzU7MDQ%2B PiUiPjQnOicjKDM%2BLiIoNDsuPyYrOSc6LjIqPDE%3D&m=1360287443

my friends were staying at a cabin just down the street. they saw the truck on fire and had no clue he was that close until the next day.

although i dont COMPLETELY agree with him, I do applaud him for sticking up for what is right and taking any means necessary to do so.

I have a feeling a lot more people will follow suit from other departments.

[fyneyoungstunna]

i cant find a gif for it but if you have seen the movie you know what I mean.
http://www.milehighcinema.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/JackReacherBusAW-620x349.jpg

[overb0ost]

reminds me of "The Punisher"

[Inland Drift]

After I read his manifesto, the supervisor named Teresa Evans, started everything, and he cant accept it. He mention this name over and over again. My opinion is, this guy will not gonna stop until somebody bring back this woman to justice.

[Homeboyx]

Teresa Evans is more likely the person that broke the camel's back on this one imo.

[spiderlone]

Food for thought - cops dont kill people because they want to, they do it because its purely human error. Every cop knows their job is on the line any time they draw their weapon. And since this is a career for almost all of them, they dont want to be that guy that got booted for a shooting or went to jail for it. Its human error, but when criminals go out and kill people, it is intended to cause harm or kill. Im sure there are a few that are former criminals or they cant wait to shoot at someone but most would rather not because it will only bring many headaches for them. This ex cop is a murderer and this is not a movie you are watching unfold, this is real life and rooting for the villain is not very cool in this situation.

Human error? hahaha that's they're excuse! cops are always looking for any reason possible to pull that trigger Idk who you are tryying to fool

[spiderlone]

so the bitch cops are going around shooting random people in trucks now huh, wow thats awesome

[cnile51]

Michael Douglas- Falling Down.

Go Rent it.

[jamg]

Police Officer Slaps U.S. Soldier - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIGIcg27-0g)

power trippin thug cops.

sucks to get hit when you dont like what you're hearing

[Brian]

This sort of reminds me of Rambo.

[No 240.. No id]

too much info to post here. Nvm

[ghost_silvia]

This sort of reminds me of Rambo.
Just don't think it's going to end like that!
Kind of off topic but,
my dad just had a first hand experience of police code.
One cop saw an accident involving my dad and another motorist but
left when another officer arrived. The first officer saw the accident
and stated my dad was not at fault. After he left the second officer
wrote my dad a ticket, said it was his fault. WTF! He got it contact
with the officer who witnessed the accident and proceeded to tell him
what happened. He then told my dad that he's not going to go against
a fellow officer basically cause they stick together. Shits got to change.
Stand up for what's right not cause you're afraid of being ousted.

[Brian]

In the original ending, Rambo kills himself.
Weird.

[PeaceOnesxWai]

food for thought - cops dont kill people because they want to, they do it because its purely human error. Every cop knows their job is on the line any time they draw their weapon. And since this is a career for almost all of them, they dont want to be that guy that got booted for a shooting or went to jail for it. Its human error, but when criminals go out and kill people, it is intended to cause harm or kill. Im sure there are a few that are former criminals or they cant wait to shoot at someone but most would rather not because it will only bring many headaches for them. This ex cop is a murderer and this is not a movie you are watching unfold, this is real life and rooting for the villain is not very cool in this situation.


human error? Hahaha that's they're excuse! Cops are always looking for any reason possible to pull that trigger idk who you are tryying to fool

Cops are no different then you and I. Just because they have a badge and gun dont make their minds any more intellectual or righteous. If anything I would think the people who step up and become a police officer are those who are authoritarians, capricious bullies, adrenaline seekers and those set out to seek justice in forms of anger. To me, these people have improper judgement to view conflicting sides and their decisions usually dont equate the solution.

I think its time to start adding a deeper psychological test in recruitment for officers to further screen good/bad cops.

[mantas]

Cops are no different then you and I. Just because they have a badge and gun dont make their minds any more intellectual or righteous. If anything I would think the people who step up and become a police officer are those who are authoritarians, capricious bullies, adrenaline seekers and those set out to seek justice in forms of anger. To me, these people have improper judgement to view conflicting sides and their decisions usually dont equate the solution.

I think its time to start adding a deeper psychological test in recruitment for officers to further screen good/bad cops.

Agree 100% on that. Easiest test would be to put these cops through some really high stress environments and see which snap. Plenty of people dont have what it takes to be a cop mentally or physically, its a tough job, unfortunately a lot of people who join the force only want one two things - a badge and a gun.

[FaLKoN240]

Michael Douglas- Falling Down.

Go Rent it.

http://ilovecelluloid.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/fallingdown1993.jpg

Hell yeah... love that movie.

I am tired of everyone's bullshit too.

[Juantwo3]

http://ilovecelluloid.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/fallingdown1993.jpg

Hell yeah... love that movie.

I am tired of everyone's bullshit too.



one of the greatest movies ever.

[dawagarage]

i have another thing to add in regards to yesterday's 'lock down' of naval base point loma.

a friend of mine from work has to pull ASF (auxiliary security force) duty.
what this means is he has a different job but the master at arms (navy police) are so strapped for bodies that they have to pull 'volunteers' from other places on base.
anyways, in the morning meetings the civilian security manager asked if everyone had their body armor on, those that didnt have/bring their own personnel armor were lent some. the security manager then told everyone about droner or whatever and that he was recently sighted near navbase pt loma. he told them that if they see him (trying to gain access to the base) just let him through. that they arent trained/equipped to apprehend him, that he is familiar with use of force/apprehension techniques/etc. that there will be a team of trained personnel (US marshalls/fbi/etc) that will be used to apprehend him once he's on base.

[7RIFT0]

In the original ending, Rambo kills himself.
Weird.

This guy wont kill himself

[DS562]

Cops are no different then you and I. Just because they have a badge and gun dont make their minds any more intellectual or righteous. If anything I would think the people who step up and become a police officer are those who are authoritarians, capricious bullies, adrenaline seekers and those set out to seek justice in forms of anger. To me, these people have improper judgement to view conflicting sides and their decisions usually dont equate the solution.

I think its time to start adding a deeper psychological test in recruitment for officers to further screen good/bad cops.


while i do agree that some are in it for the reasons you stated, but its people with your mindset who make unfair generalizations that make an honest and conscientious officer's job that much more stressful. i know and have encountered a lot of good cops who exercise good judgment and use their words and power of reasoning first and foremost.

[DallasTXjdm]

Any new updates on this guy?

[Homeboyx]

Not that I know of. So far they have a small army and 2 heat seeking helicopters all over big bear forest. Guy probably faked them out into thinking he's in the forest all this time.. He's probably in a beach in Mexico right now sipping his drank while wearing sunglasses, a hawaiian shirt, some shorts and flip flops.

[yetijeff]

Any of you read his manifesto? The whole one not the censored one. What do u guys think? It's been a pretty heated topic of discussion out here in SoCal I'm really wondering what u guys from the other states think.

[jamescarter]

If your black and drive a pick up, keep your head down!

[VNG704]

http://zilvia.net/f/off-topic-chat/502385-former-lapd-officer-attempted-flee-country-before-allegedly-shooting-cops.html late, there is a thread on this already.

[onehundredoctane]

LL Cool J better keep his head down.

[enkei2k]

http://zilvia.net/f/off-topic-chat/502385-former-lapd-officer-attempted-flee-country-before-allegedly-shooting-cops.html late, there is a thread on this already.

Merged with other thread.

[Homeboyx]

I saw a truck with a huge sign on the back window that said something like, "I am not Christopher Dorner. PLEASE DO NOT SHOOT ME!" Shit is pretty ridiculous out here.

Btw.. those 2 women that got shot up, received a new truck "courtesy of the LAPD". LOL

[WIKID S4TEEN]

If your black and drive a pick up, keep your head down!

Better yet, stay home.

"courtesy of tax payers". LOL
Fixed

[FRpilot]

Btw.. those 2 women that got shot up, received a new truck "courtesy of the LAPD". LOL


If I was the two ladies, I would be careful taking the truck in case later the LAPD says "you accepted the truck, which means the issue of us accidentally shooting you is resolved and you can't sue us"

[7RIFT0]

If I was the two ladies, I would be careful taking the truck in case later the LAPD says "you accepted the truck, which means the issue of us accidentally shooting you is resolved and you can't sue us"

That is exactly what happens in a case like that. I'm sure they had to sign a document they can not sue them in the next 5-10 years.

[ZenkiKid]

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, will make violent revolution inevitable." - JFK.


Outside of those two senseless killings, Christopher Dorner is a hero. Guy gets fired for crossing the "blue line" by reporting Police Brutality and the LAPD decides to ruin his life. I normally dont say "Fuck the Police" because we need them at times, but I will say fuck the corruption and fuck the LAPD.

[ZenkiKid]

God Bless America

Watch it on Netflix.

http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/god-bless-america-movie-image-03-600x302.jpg

[godsmack]

I don't blame this guy one bit. If there weren't people like this then this country would have never been. He is a revolutionist that is standing up for what he believes in. Plus he attempted to do it the "right" way before what you see now. How do you know for sure that he shot the 2 "innocent victoms" Might be a conspiracy to try and badger his name further and keep everyone's interest away from the truth.

All I can say though is he already did what he wanted and that was to turn up the heat on the LAPD and show their true colors to those who are color blind. He's probably just sitting back and watching as they use excessive force to try to apprehend him and he's not even in the same country.

[Goofs]

Modern day Carl Johnson

[yetijeff]

Food for thought - cops dont kill people because they want to, they do it because its purely human error.

I'm sorry man that's complete bullshit. They are trained to shoot to kill. There is no human error. Any cop pulling a trigger at anyone else is pulling it for one thing to kill. Like many others I think his methods are extreme, and it's sad that innocent people had to pay the price for the corruption of lapd. I live right by where the police officer was shot in riverside and its sad for his family and friends. If I were them I'd sue LAPD for it. But if anything good comes of this. If dirty cops and politicians etc. are forced into the limelight, the ends justify the means IMO. He's not a lunatic, if he was crazy they would've got him already. People don't talk about how he is also in the military. In fact he carried one of the highest security clearances available, until he was wrongfully terminated by the lapd. His best bet would be to turn himself in in a very very public place. And tell everyone what he know, and the corruption behind the blue wall. Because let's face it if they catch him they're not going to arrest him, they'll murder him in the street. But if he turns himself in in a public place they'll be forced to arrest him and we the people can hear what else he has to say.

[wangan_cruiser]

LAPD want him dead so he cant speak what he found inside and about the corruption.


as for the 2 ladies who got the truck. i would be YOU GUYS CAN SHOVE IT TO YOUR ASS AND ILL SEE YOU GUYS IN COURT.

[Homeboyx]

Fixed

Thus the quotation marks. :keke:

If I was the two ladies, I would be careful taking the truck in case later the LAPD says "you accepted the truck, which means the issue of us accidentally shooting you is resolved and you can't sue us"

Exactly. I'm willing to bet they those ladies can get more of a settlement than OJ ever did. haha But I'm also willing to bet they were "persuaded" to take the truck and drop the case from going any further.

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, will make violent revolution inevitable." - JFK.


Outside of those two senseless killings, Christopher Dorner is a hero. Guy gets fired for crossing the "blue line" by reporting Police Brutality and the LAPD decides to ruin his life. I normally dont say "Fuck the Police" because we need them at times, but I will say fuck the corruption and fuck the LAPD.

Don't quote for what I am about to say, but I've read (forgot where exactly) that the authorities are *really* trying to frame him for his supposed murders. I even saw an article of saying that he had updated his facebook in one of these past days saying that he's being framed for the killings. That's some fucked up shit for real if it's true.. again, I'm not sure if the articles were stating cold hard facts or were biased or anything to that tone. I'm just sharing information is all..

[onehundredoctane]

LAPD want him dead so he cant speak what he found inside and about the corruption.


as for the 2 ladies who got the truck. i would be YOU GUYS CAN SHOVE IT TO YOUR ASS AND ILL SEE YOU GUYS IN COURT.


Get to court, get awarded millions, leave state of California.

that would be my plan at least.

[wangan_cruiser]

Thats shady if he was being framed.

[Brian]

we'll never know the 100% true story.

[Homeboyx]

Thats shady if he was being framed.

Unfortunately, it wouldn't be the first time.. :ugh:


Also, I just found out there was another case of mistaken identity. A white guy got shot this time from what I've read. :tardrim:

[sw20>>s14]

God Bless America

Watch it on Netflix.

http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/god-bless-america-movie-image-03-600x302.jpg

Agreed, this movie was beyond awesome.

[K_style]

Breaking News.

There was gun shooting exchange with the suspect and cops just a minutes ago.
Supposedly he was holding old couples as hostages.

[WIKID S4TEEN]

^^Yeah. He's in big bear!!!

EDIT: I thought he was spotted in T.J. last night??? WTF.

[VROOOM]

2 cops shots in the shoot out.

BREAKING: Police in gun battle with Dorner in Big Bear area - Press-Telegram (http://www.presstelegram.com/ci_22573349)

[sw20>>s14]

HAHAHA, I'm listening to CBS live in LA and a caller just pranked the reporter. Wow, lol.

[K_style]

HAHAHA, I'm listening to CBS live in LA and a caller just pranked the reporter. Wow, lol.

What??? LOL

Ban that guy.. :picardfp:

[Goofs]

Dam, it looks like they got him found in a cabin in Big Bear. However, when the news showed a camera view of the cabin they said, "this is not a live picture, the police advised the news choppers to move out." I wonder why?

[dawagarage]

because the police already 'accidentally' shop up other innocent civilians and they dont want any stray bullets reaching the helicopter

as well as dorner alluding to the fact that he has anti air weaponry

[Homeboyx]

They don't even know if it's him for sure. LOL Fucking failure..

[PeaceOnesxWai]

They don't even know if it's him for sure. LOL Fucking failure..

Lol thats what i read too!


"LAPD Cmdr. Andrew Smith tells reporters that authorities aren't 100% sure that the suspect in the cabin is Dorner, but they believe it's him."

[Goofs]

They don't even know if it's him for sure. LOL Fucking failure..

El oh el, are you serious? I hope it's not him

[future]

Watch him not be in there after all this shit. I mean they did already search the mountain and say he was in Mexico

[Goofs]

Well they threw tear gas in there, and now the cabin is on fire...

[future]

That wouldn't cause a fire. They said maybe the flash but it might just be him doing t, what if he shot himself and caught it on fire? There is a million possibilities

[7RIFT0]

If there are people dead in that burnt down house that's on the police

[7RIFT0]

That wouldn't cause a fire. They said maybe the flash but it might just be him doing t, what if he shot himself and caught it on fire? There is a million possibilities

Tear gas is known to and can easily cause a fire

[Goofs]

If there are people dead in that burnt down house that's on the police

Truth, they're just digging their own grave if he's not in there

[wangan_cruiser]

1 deputy killed and 1 injured per news. And yes they dont even know if its him

[Goofs]

1 deputy killed and 1 injured per news. And yes they dont even know if its him

So, does that mean that those two deputies might have been shot by friendly fire?

[PeaceOnesxWai]

Its been over 30min since they stormed the cabin.. still no news

Im guessing hes not in there lol

[Homeboyx]

They're not even doing anything about the burning cabin. It's been burning for the past half an hour and they still scurred to put it out. Can you say WTF? lol

[WIKID S4TEEN]

Fuq he better be in there or this gonna look bad on LAPD.
LAPD, pack your bags, you're moving to FL! LOL!

[Mofuhcka]

Prolly gonna let the cabin burn down along with the bodies of the innocent people the cops shot, then say nothing happened..

[7RIFT0]

So, does that mean that those two deputies might have been shot by friendly fire?

We will never know since there was no media coverage. No more freedom of press.

[future]

Prolly gonna let the cabin burn down along with the bodies of the innocent people the cops shot, then say nothing happened..


QFT

I hope LAPD doesn't make themselves look even worse. I can't get over how they swore he was in TJ this morning

[BOROSUN]

i thought this was an interesting quote...

"This is the largest local reward ever offered, to our knowledge," Los Angeles Police Chief Charlie Beck said at a news conference.
"This is an act of domestic terrorism. This is a man who has targeted those that we entrust to protect the public. His actions cannot go unanswered."

who is he kidding?

Fugitive ex-cop Dorner reportedly dead after standoff with police | The Lookout - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/report-ex-cop-fugitive-shoot-police-213309749.html)

[Goofs]

i thought this was an interesting quote...

"this is the largest local reward ever offered, to our knowledge," los angeles police chief charlie beck said at a news conference.
"this is an act of domestic terrorism. This is a man who has targeted those that we entrust to protect the public. His actions cannot go unanswered."

who is he kidding?

fugitive ex-cop dorner reportedly dead after standoff with police | the lookout - yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/report-ex-cop-fugitive-shoot-police-213309749.html)

"r.i.p. "

[TougeLove]

my guess is he kidnapped another black guy made it look like a suicide and set the place on fire all while sneaking out.

his manifesto and other actions do not make sense with him just setting the place on fire and dying.

[Goofs]

my guess is he kidnapped another black guy made it look like a suicide and set the place on fire all while sneaking out.

his manifesto and other actions do not make sense with him just setting the place on fire and dying.

Good theory, mine is he never was there in the 1st place and LAPD ended up killing an innocent civilian, so they had to tell the media he died or get destroyed by the whole US.

[TougeLove]

Or no one died and they just did this to make everyone believe they actually did something right.

Jason Bourne shit lol

[Homeboyx]

I heard someone saying there was a basement that was deep down in a cabin. Not sure if they were talking about the burning cabin.

Somebody better make a movie out of this shit or else I'm gonna be pissed!

[Goofs]

I heard someone saying there was a basement that was deep down in a cabin. Not sure if they were talking about the burning cabin.

Somebody better make a movie out of this shit or else I'm gonna be pissed!

Seriously.

[future]

Till I see pictures online I don't believe it

[7RIFT0]

Till I see pictures online I don't believe it

Second that. Off topic but same with Osama.

[240drifter1]

I put money on it he's not dead.

And this thread on honda-tech is awesome, it's a must see if youre interested in this.
I want to see him alive.

Im usually not into shit like this, but this has my attention for some reason.

[HyperTek]

In a way, I can see how he thought this was the best way to voice his thoughts, because he could have easily been silenced a long time ago by the LAPD if he just nicely tried to tell about the corruption. Hell, he has been reporting it and nothing ever happened/no one took notice of it.

ABC7 news (Los Angeles) facebook says his body has been removed from the cabin.. and to watch for their news later.

I was hoping he would just turn himself in , and settle it in trial. Was hoping to see his claims investigated, and not just swept under the rug and forgotten.

[gambit420s]

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q199/gambit420s/motivatorb580a1ff7ef7e15114b17bfd271fecfaf898db7b_ zps7508b295.jpg

[BoredEE]

LiveLeak.com - Radio transmissions of sheriff's officers deciding to burn Chris Dorner out of the cabin. (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=fbc_1360721946)

Unknown Authenticity

[S13-JOhNy.]

This is some good stuff!!! lol

It reminds me of the movie "shooter"..

[jamg]

I dont think he's dead either.

[WIKID S4TEEN]

Somebody better make a movie out of this shit or else I'm gonna be pissed!

Already in production. Starring LL Cool J.

[davirene]

Nahhh he is dead.....they didnt want to give him his day in court so they snuffed him out.

If you watched the news live they confirmed they have his body but yet the cabin was still fully engulfed in flames. They announced they would not let the fire department in because it was 2 dangerous, but yet the cops can clearly be seen walking around the blazing cabin from the air cam.

THEY WANTED IT BURNED TO COVER WHAT THEY DID. He said they were going to kill him no matter what. Look at what they did to the 2 asian ladies in the blue Toyota Truck. 50 holes in that one.

I am in no way justifying him killing other peace officers or any innocent people....especially my own from where I live....but there is corruption and there is a "blue line" that is not suppose to be crossed.

[ESmorz]

I put money on it he's not dead.

Well if you're just throwing away money I've got some beach front property in Oklahoma for sale, and when did this board fill up with 19 year old conspiracy loons? Anyways, they're saying now all reports of finding a body are false. It's still to hot to go into the building. Still believed to be dead though, this is how I like to imagine it happened:

http://i.imgur.com/HbZ1GzV.gif

http://i.imgur.com/9I6pYAx.gif

[LB 180SX]

like stated above they want him dead. although i find it very disturbing that those 2 women that where shot at, only got hit with 3 bullets total. out of like 50 bullet holes. no wonder innocent lifes get hit by LAPD almost on a daily. i highly doubt its him that was in there. lapd press just stated there is no confirmation a body was located. he's too smart.
there is crazy ass people that go on killing sprees and they get a trial, this guys has 4 kills and they want him dead!. that tells you alot.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d60/lbcjimmy2521/NewImage_zps25485485.jpg

[HyperTek]

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d60/lbcjimmy2521/NewImage_zps25485485.jpg

I want to agree with the content of this picture, but did those other guys run or turn themselves in without a fight?

But yeah, I think Dorner knew they where wanting to kill him, hence why he would fire back in defense. They clearly wanted him dead, as seen from the pick up truck getting shot up.

RIP to the innocent lives that had been taken away from this tragedy.

[ESmorz]

cNk-bV40XMc

[LB 180SX]

I want to agree with the content of this picture, but did those other guys run or turn themselves in without a fight?



nope. they all went down pretty easy. this guy had a purpose. and LAPD knows that he knows to much and if he opens his mouth all hell will break loose, .people dont trust LAPD as it is, now with someone testifying it will make matters worse. it will definatley make chief of police look horrible. I wouldn't doubt he's given an order to kill him if you see him. makes sense why 2 of my friends and 1 cousin in LAPD have been told if they talk to press they will be terminated. and many of them have been placed in hotels in the meantime. This guy is to smart, he planned it. yea hes crazy but one step ahead of law enforcement

[240drifter1]

Well if you're just throwing away money I've got some beach front property in Oklahoma for sale






Original :rolleyes:

[Aroddalobster]

Now they're saying there was no body?

I think they found out it wasnt him, and they're trying to cover their asses. Or maybe I just watch way too much TV

[kalypso123]

I still call bullshit on sandy hook

[Homeboyx]

Holy shit, he's alive! "No body was found in the cabin". Holy fucking trollfest. ROFL!
I hereby name him "RamBro". GO RAMBRO! Shit is better than a movie. *grabs popcorn bucket and booze*

[Homeboyx]

Also, anyone else noticed how there is no mention of the supposed kidnapees? My god.. what a shit storm..

[LB 180SX]

Or maybe I just watch way too much TV

haha this made me laugh.. i tell the gf all the time the media gets into ppls head. and they have a way of getting to people. they are told what to say. and we all argue that theyre right. its cool to inform yourself but i never believe shit they say. it all starts with the weather ppl lol


Now they're saying there was no body?
I think they found out it wasnt him, and they're trying to cover their asses.

exactly! so now they gotta come up with a story. im sure he was never there. every cop is dying to be a hero right now so they'll shoot anything and cross their fingers and hope its him

Also, anyone else noticed how there is no mention of the supposed kidnapees? My god.. what a shit storm..

i was thinking the same. its just a story to make people belive through the media they did something right for once

[future]

I still call bullshit on sandy hook

I'm with you on this

[No 240.. No id]

Nahhh he is dead.....they didnt want to give him his day in court so they snuffed him out.

If you watched the news live they confirmed they have his body but yet the cabin was still fully engulfed in flames. They announced they would not let the fire department in because it was 2 dangerous, but yet the cops can clearly be seen walking around the blazing cabin from the air cam.

THEY WANTED IT BURNED TO COVER WHAT THEY DID. He said they were going to kill him no matter what. Look at what they did to the 2 asian ladies in the blue Toyota Truck. 50 holes in that one.

I am in no way justifying him killing other peace officers or any innocent people....especially my own from where I live....but there is corruption and there is a "blue line" that is not suppose to be crossed.


I agree with you 100%. There is some business between him and LAPD/government and they did not NO ONEto know about it. They had set him up on this case. They said he killed 3 coups, but there is no proof.

[Bambi]

Hey anyone know about this "drone strike" I keep hearing about? That sending out a drone to strike him was considered?

[HyperTek]

That DVD he sent to Anderson Cooper probably explains everything, but of course they turned that over to the police!! He was probably hoping they would play it on the air, exposing dirt on LAPD.

[240drifter1]

Reports saying they found tracks leading away from cabin to a horse corral.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/c9b82f479272e372e00edd5aba3afbb9/tumblr_mi56065haH1qg3bflo1_500.jpg

[240drifter1]

Police Scanner - Cops torch cabin where Christopher Dorner was held up - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMU1RNURtHs)

People who didnt listen to the scanner, the cops set the cabin on fire, not him.

[Brian]

whats with the Drone talk?

[240drifter1]

They were talking about setting drones out acouple of days ago but I dont think they have, and I think they would fuck up if they did so, and they do too. Its to much of a risk for them, there already in deep shit.

[Brian]

And what would they do with a drone?

Record video? Drop bombs? Nothing?

[240drifter1]

Your guess is as good as mine.

[fyneyoungstunna]

"The revolution will not be apologized for"

I just hope more ppl join in.
Plus, and ive said this from the start: With all the minorities that are fed up with LAPD and other corrupt precincts, Im pretty sure he has a LOT of help/support all around Cali and really the Country. Plus I kinda figure since the military folks tend to stick together, he has some help there too?

Im hoping he is NOT dead, and all the corruption gets bought to light.....

[Brian]

LOT of questions surrounding this whole thing.
I wonder what becomes of it all.

[HyperTek]

xak2S5NdIzY
Anyone suspect friendly fire upon the death of the officer?
The guy at :46 shooting around the other guy by the tree, just saying, it could happen.

[CleanAndLegit]

more than likely nothing will be forgotten like the sandy hook "incident" and all the other "incidents"

[az_240]

Did they not have the cabin surrounded? I don't see how he could have got away...

[Juantwo3]

the media making him out to be "dead" so people forget about him while everyone hunts him down and kills him without making a big scene about it. trying to make it look like they have everything under control. One man is being hunted down by a platoon.

America Fuck Yea!!!!

[future]

I also think it was friendly fire. You know they will pull the built to see if so, but will lie to us done more about it

[eddieflo]

Reports saying they found tracks leading away from cabin to a horse corral.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/c9b82f479272e372e00edd5aba3afbb9/tumblr_mi56065haH1qg3bflo1_500.jpg


LMFAO!
I fucking love this!

I too hope he's not dead

[onehundredoctane]

LMFAO!
I fucking love this!

I too hope he's not dead

Same here. If he got out and continues it would be interesting to see what his next move it.

[240drifter1]

I can't wait till the media says it's his body so it doesn't look like they killed another innocent person, then dorner pops his head up.

[K_style]

What kind of tactic is put the place on fire so the "Suspect" can burn to death???

[Brian]

that is from page 17 of the book. It's the "we don't give a F about anything" tactic.

[K_style]

that is from page 17 of the book. It's the "we don't give a F about anything" tactic.

Or is it "We need to cover up our mistakes and messes" tactic?

[Oakville]

Reports saying they found tracks leading away from cabin to a horse corral.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/c9b82f479272e372e00edd5aba3afbb9/tumblr_mi56065haH1qg3bflo1_500.jpg

I LOL'd in the middle of my lecture. so is the guy dead or what?

[K_style]

I LOL'd in the middle of my lecture. so is the guy dead or what?

No one has confirmation. Media is pushing towards burnt body inside of cabin is him but I highly doubt it.

I heard LA spokesman talking earlier saying it is going to take some time to ID the body.

[gerardojdm]

I think it's fishy how the cops just started shooting at those innocent people without even asking questions.

[Brian]

I thought they were going to burn the forest down when I first saw the smoke.

[1 88 U]

News is his id was found on the body.

[Goofs]

News is his id was found on the body.

Doesn't really mean its him

[FaLKoN240]

(NSFW because of the ads)

Someone compiled all of the prank calls from yesterday.
Video: Christopher Dorner Standoff Newscast Pranked On Live TV + Christopher Dorner In Gun Battle With Authorities (http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhtHYHROyAZ39h42Wi)

[Nissansota240]

News is his id was found on the body.

So ID's are fire proof? If the body was found chared and shit I would think a piece of plastic wouldn't last to long.

[KiLLeR2001]

Reminds me of how they found IDs/passports from the suicide bombers on 9/11 amongst all the charred rubble. Very believable. :rolleyes:

[wangan_cruiser]

Same here. I do hope he is still alive. Media had already history of faking stories so whats new when they try to tell people that dorner is dead. I do hope so too he got back up from navy.this manhunt is getting big. Feda should interfere and take things from here. Get an investigation or something. Whatever cops do right shows they trying to silence this guy.

[EDacIouSX]

you guys hope he's still alive? For what, so he can prove to you all that he killed two innocent people and two cops? Get real.

Get off this murderers nuts and start supporting officers who were kicked out of the PD for the same reason Dorner was supposedly kicked out and support Non murderers.

[wangan_cruiser]

I dont support any of those killings. But i want to know the truth. Theres always 2 side of thr story. Do u really think he killed those cops? Wheres the investigation? Did they ever mentioned how the last deputy got killed? Lapd is already corrupted to begin with so how hard is it to believe what feed the media?

[Brian]

I dont support any of those killings. But i want to know the truth. Theres always 2 side of thr story. Do u really think he killed those cops? Wheres the investigation? Did they ever mentioned how the last deputy got killed? Lapd is already corrupted to begin with so how hard is it to believe what feed the media?

Nah, there are 3 sides.
1. Guy A
2. Guy B
3. The Truth


The public will NEVER know the whole story. That's just how it is.
Hopefully the guy who killed those officers got killed in that cabin.

[Mofuhcka]

(NSFW because of the ads)

Someone compiled all of the prank calls from yesterday.
Video: Christopher Dorner Standoff Newscast Pranked On Live TV + Christopher Dorner In Gun Battle With Authorities (http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhtHYHROyAZ39h42Wi)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
"Youre a real dumbass arent you?? You still dont know this is a prank?"

[mantas]

you guys hope he's still alive? For what, so he can prove to you all that he killed two innocent people and two cops? Get real.

Get off this murderers nuts and start supporting officers who were kicked out of the PD for the same reason Dorner was supposedly kicked out and support Non murderers.

This right here is the truth. All of you in support of this serial killer are uneducated and/or stupid. You lack something in your head and thats for you to determine and decide whether you want to do something about it.

[1 88 U]

What kind of tactic is put the place on fire so the "Suspect" can burn to death???

The same tactic police used in Philly against MOVE or Waco texas.

[Homeboyx]

That picture made me fall off my chair. ROFL!

No but seriously, I want one of those teleporting, fireproofed ID's. His wallet along with his ID/License was found in SD a couple of days ago.. now they found another one intact in the burning cabin?

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lshw4w5Thj1qhe380.png

[Grenade180sx]

Dorner had control of this whole situation, he could of ended it anytime by throwing in the towel. A man who "wants to get his side out" doesnt start shooting random people.

by doing so, your case is no longer valid and you turn into a murderer

[Goofs]

This right here is the truth. All of you in support of this serial killer are uneducated and/or stupid. You lack something in your head and thats for you to determine and decide whether you want to do something about it.

Didn't know you were a psychic

[KiLLeR2001]

Brb gonna throw my wallet with ID in a bon fire for a few hours and see how it turns out.

[mantas]

Didn't know you were a psychic

Not a psychic. Just pointing out that anyone who supports a serial killer must be an idiot. Dorner went about this the wrong way, even if LAPD is in the wrong. Life is not fair, and Chris D. could not deal with real life. He is a big cry baby, tough shit if you get fired or wrongfully accused - happens to many people all over the world. How is the couple shot in the parking lot responsible for his firing? Are the San Bernardino Sheriffs or the LAPD cops sitting at the light responsible for anything that went wrong in Dorner's life? I bet they have never heard or saw Dorner prior to this whole killing spree.

[Homeboyx]

There's no prove of him shooting anybody though.. that's the tinker.
And again even now, there's been no mention of the supposed kidnapees..

[Kingbaby]

He's still alive...


*leaves thread*

[i<3chicken]

Dam I just read all off this..this is crazy!! our world is on a rapid decline

Sent from my SGH-T769 using Tapatalk 2

[PeaceOnesxWai]

Not a psychic. Just pointing out that anyone who supports a serial killer must be an idiot. Dorner went about this the wrong way, even if LAPD is in the wrong. Life is not fair, and Chris D. could not deal with real life. He is a big cry baby, tough shit if you get fired or wrongfully accused - happens to many people all over the world. How is the couple shot in the parking lot responsible for his firing? Are the San Bernardino Sheriffs or the LAPD cops sitting at the light responsible for anything that went wrong in Dorner's life? I bet they have never heard or saw Dorner prior to this whole killing spree.

I agree it is wrong of him for killing innocents but the truth is people are going root for him because he made headlines for his drastic way to reveal the truth & turning vigilance against crooked cops. Not everyday you read headlines about corrupted cops being served justice for what they did wrong.. Hes standing up and making a big voice that is heard by many. Its a fked up world and people view this as entertainment, they also see it as a pity movie where they root the character as he fight his cause despite the whole gov. suppressing him.

Also cops are more hated/feared by most of the population mainly because they serve more then they protect.. who here hasnt been written a ticket that they dont think they deserved

[PeaceOnesxWai]

There's no prove of him shooting anybody though.. that's the tinker.
And again even now, there's been no mention of the supposed kidnapees..

Seriously, in the beginning they said he had 2 hostages tied up.. Wtf ever happened to them? Was it another media hoax?

[cnile51]

Basic principles of human nature. Guy was rubbed the wrong way, apparently tried to go about it by going through the proper channels, realized how fucked up the system is (most people don't because they never fully get the opportunity to do so) and nothing changed.

Ask anyone whose ever filed a complaint or dealt with law enforcement when they were wronged how messed up the system is and they will immediately get agitated. We see it all the time, captured on film, and the justification from the department is "well before the tape started rolling, or what you don't see in the tape is...."

I have a lot of contacts at various departments, NY/NJ. Trust me when I say every single officer has done something whether petty or not to cover their own or colleagues asses. And the justification is, "Well, if you dealt with some of the SCUM we deal with you'd do the same".

That maybe true, but that's why I'm not a police officer.

Dorner had a few options at that point.

1) Take it on the chin and keep it moving, find another career
(Best thing he could have done)
2) Protest with the same Occupy movement (which you don't hear about anymore) and make believe the higher ups will care about your signs. Or rant on some blog that noone gives a shit about.
3)Or Take the "By An Means Necessary Approach"

He had to either have been really really screwed by the LAPD to sit down and take the time to really think all this through and write that manifesto or just stopped giving a shit.

Or his mental health was completely gone and because of his training, he turned to what he was programmed and comfortable doing.

Either way, just another crime in the books in LA just like every other day.

In the words of JFK- "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."

It'll make a great movie some day, and no one had to think of the entire thing.

[fliprayzin240sx]

So is this muffo dead or alive?

[HyperTek]

I watched End of Watch last night, great movie, I suggest everyone see it. Reminded me of the good cops out there.

[roboticnissan]

Seriously, in the beginning they said he had 2 hostages tied up.. Wtf ever happened to them? Was it another media hoax?

You guys either hear what you want or are just plain dumb. The two tied up women escaped and called the police.

[yetijeff]

I just got done watching the interview with the couple that owned the unit he was in. They were tied up. Nobody else

[future]

Are you guys watching this on CNN? More to fuel the fire of this front. These people sound like idiots, the story has changed a million times. They are both trying to answer and both have different answers, even though she has a script to lie to read.

So these house maids are now the owners that were tied up? Please everything on the news is full of shit. Add this to the sandy shooting as another front

[240drifter1]

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/480879_4835052829123_1753565571_n.jpg

[HyperTek]

seems like the body story keeps changing, yes, no, yes, female, unknown, its him. etc.

[Oakville]

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/480879_4835052829123_1753565571_n.jpg
huh? :drama:

[ESmorz]

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/480879_4835052829123_1753565571_n.jpg

Fake. This shit was circulating this morning.

This thread has a depressing amount of retardation.

[Homeboyx]

Breaking News!: It wasn't a female, it was a U.F.O. that was teleported here through psychic powers from another universe. It just so happened to land at the wrong place, at the wrong time. Shortly after the MIB showed up and flashed everybody with the brain fart pen and told them that it was a female. Thus, concludes the bs about the female charred body found.

This is an actual sketch of said alien provided by a person that is to be remained anonymous.

http://www.search-best-cartoon.com/cartoon-aliens/cartoon-alien-in-spacesuit-3.jpg

/caseclosed

[az_240]

LA times reported finding Dorner's wallet and ID cards "at the San Ysidro Point of Entry" near the U.S.-Mexico border after he allegedly tried to hijack a boat.

Interesting that they also found his wallet and ID in the torched cabin... wonder how that works...

edit: here's the link http://articles.latimes.com/2013/feb/11/local/la-me-dorner-charges-20130212

I watched End of Watch last night, great movie, I suggest everyone see it. Reminded me of the good cops out there.

offtopic but LOL @ this.... that movie was terrible haha.

[Matej]

http://i.imgur.com/gDSUTBH.gif

[mau5trap]

He's still out there.....

[KiLLeR2001]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/579719_10151427063933189_2092129152_n.jpg

[Goofs]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/579719_10151427063933189_2092129152_n.jpg

Hahah that's great, I think he's alive though

[HyperTek]

Couple describes Dorner ordeal, and his unexpected compliment - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_162-57569362/couple-describes-dorner-ordeal-and-his-unexpected-compliment/)

"He talked to us trying to calm us down and saying very frequently he would not kill us," said Karen. "He had said 'I just want to clear my name.'"

Although the Reynolds were aware of Dorner's alleged trail of violence, they couldn't help but feel some compassion for their captor.

"I really didn't wish him dead, though. I really didn't. I prayed for him a lot and I'm praying for his family now," said Karen.

[PeaceOnesxWai]

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/44273_10151494671203708_519349770_n.jpg

[Homeboyx]

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/44273_10151494671203708_519349770_n.jpg

Mother of gawd...:rofl:

[sw20>>s14]

^^^^buahahahaha

Couple describes Dorner ordeal, and his unexpected compliment - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_162-57569362/couple-describes-dorner-ordeal-and-his-unexpected-compliment/)

Stockholm syndrome at its fullest.

[Brian]

gee whiz, figured the media would have an answer for us by now.

I'm so glad that ID survived, because that area where the cabin used to be looked TORCHED.

[AFSil80]

http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Chris-Dorner-Xzibit-Meme.jpg

[conrad_s13.5]

hHHAAHAAAHAHA

[Goofs]

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/44273_10151494671203708_519349770_n.jpg

http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Chris-Dorner-Xzibit-Meme.jpg

Gold .

[wangan_cruiser]

Mistakes ultimately halted suspected killer's rampage - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/repeated-gaffes-ultimately-halted-ex-cops-rampage-090541407.html)

[Goofs]

Supposedly the burned body is Dorner's. They match dental records.

[arck001]

Someone has made a video game already.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=L-kDyWU5Jos

[K_style]

Supposedly the burned body is Dorner's. They match dental records.

But who knows if that is true.

[K_style]

Someone has made a video game already.

Chris Dorner Last Stand Survival Game - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=L-kDyWU5Jos)

That's SOME FUCKED UP SHIT.

[Goofs]

That's why I said supposedly, that game is hillarious, KFC heals you, look at the top comment on the vid haha

[Corbic]

We need to ban Police Officers from having access to fire arms. They are already highly trained killers who are under constant stress - what a great idea to let them also have guns.

This was bound to happen.

[Goofs]

We need to ban Police Officers from having access to fire arms. They are already highly trained killers who are under constant stress - what a great idea to let them also have guns.

This was bound to happen.

I think you're over exaggerating. One cop out of all the hundred-thousand, maybe even million in America goes berserk, for a good reason, and you're calling for all of them not to be allowed to own guns? Pretty sure that goes against the 2nd amendment as well.

[Mofuhcka]

I saw some of my local news that were talking to the owners of the cabin that were "tied up" and they did the same shit as the "parents" of the Sandy Hook kids, laughing all through the interview, no signs of any sad emotions. If I had been tied up like they said, pillow cases over their heads and whatnot, thinking I was gonna be executed, I definitely wouldnt be laughing and smiling and joking around..

[Mofuhcka]

I think you're over exaggerating. One cop out of all the hundred-thousand, maybe even million in America goes berserk, for a good reason, and you're calling for all of them not to be allowed to own guns? Pretty sure that goes against the 2nd amendment as well.

There isnt really a "good" reason to go berserk haha, but I get your point.

[Matej]

The police needs to stop wasting resources on unimportant issues and focus more manpower on SR swaps and imported Skylines.

[wangan_cruiser]

The police needs to stop wasting resources on unimportant issues and focus more manpower on SR swaps and imported Skylines.

you are being sarcastic right?

[240drifter1]

you are being sarcastic right?

You must have never seen his other post on this forum, lol.

[wangan_cruiser]

possibly the first post i ever reply from his sarcasm LOL.

[Mofuhcka]

Any new info on what happened? Had quite a busy weekend and didnt keep up with any news at all.

[SimpleS14]

Any new info on what happened? Had quite a busy weekend and didnt keep up with any news at all.

Shootout in a cabin.

Cabin burned, guy is dead.

fin

[HyperTek]

LAPD suppose to have another conference on him today, lets see what they have to say. :drama:

[Mofuhcka]

Shootout in a cabin.

Cabin burned, guy is dead.

fin

Now is he DEAD or dead?

[Z_Spool]

Dead* :coolugh:

[Homeboyx]

He is now "dead".