D2 coilovers

[Powashiftin]

I know Ace has them, but is there anyone else whos got them ? I wanna hear some more reviews on them before i get em...

[Zemus]

Their still on "The docks" from what I hear, im tired of this, I want mine NOW, Ill post of review of them once I get em, their will be in my car once they hit my steps :-D

[AceInHole]

my friend just got his and we installed them on saturday during the 45 minutes we were supposed to be walking the course at autocross. everyone that saw them was impressed, as well as my friend who drove on them. my other friends (1 with an S13 and 1 with a B15) are now looking into getting them.... and i strongly encourage paying the extra for express shipping. shipping by boat sucks.

[PSI240SX]

Still waiting on mine to get here but my friend payed the extra for fedex like a month ago and he loves them. Really nice quality, not a bad ride at all. Overall, well worth the price paid.

[SimpleS14]

hmmm....where can I buy these from and how much do they go for?

I'm very interested...but have no idea what specs that have and what not.

[Zemus]

Ace did your friends pay extra to get them shipped from the boat to them or extra from the dealer to them? I should have shelled out the extra money..

[KiDyNomiTe]

hmmm....where can I buy these from and how much do they go for?

I'm very interested...but have no idea what specs that have and what not.
They are like 670 shipped I thinkk. Any odd combo of spring rates 9/7 and 7/5 are the popular 240 ones. You have to pay extra for pillowball upper mounts, but I think that 670 price includes it (it's just off the top of my head). I should have gotten them, but oh well.

[PSI240SX]

I was in on the original group buy which had pillow ball mounts included. It was $600 shipped for me. :) there is a threadf on NICO about the group buy. you could contact mark about selling you an extra set. The price will be higher though but still worth it in my opinion.

[SimpleS14]

I was in on the original group buy which had pillow ball mounts included. It was $600 shipped for me. :) there is a threadf on NICO about the group buy. you could contact mark about selling you an extra set. The price will be higher though but still worth it in my opinion.

Thanks I just found the most recent group buy thread and posted a question.

For anyone that wants a direct link to the group buy...here it is...

http://www.nissaninfiniticlub.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=619761

[Jeff240sx]

Thanks I just found the most recent group buy thread and posted a question.

For anyone that wants a direct link to the group buy...here it is...

http://www.nissaninfiniticlub.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=619761

No you didn't. That order is lost and gone and dead forever. The most recent is http://www.nissaninfiniticlub.net/forums/showthread.php?threadid=56575&perpage=35&pagenumber=1
It's KSport coilovers.. same exact thing. Today is the last day to get in and pay.. it's $600 + $40 shipping + $80 for pillowball mounts. Subtract $20 for paying check/money order. If you are gonna pay the latter two, call them today to lock in at $700 shipped with PBM. Or call and pay credit or paypal for $720. If you wait until tomorrow (I think you have 6 more days before the order it placed) it's $100 extra for the late fee.
-Jeff

[Var]

wtf is the deal. everyone says "you get what you pay for"..,.,??

who can comment in comparison with HE's or FLTA-2's or something else popular.

[the240sxer95]

hmm d2.. ksport.. i think i wanna order those! haha but i think i am still gonna try and wait for the works yamaguchi dampers..

[the240sxer95]

ahh the deadline is TODAY! who has ordered the Ksport dampers. or plan to order them..

umm also.. what spring rates should i get if i order them? haha they're are some pretty crazy rates..

[Jeff240sx]

I ordered 9/7 on Friday. Ace has the D2 (as I said.. same thing, same company, same manufacturer.. EXACT SAME) with 9/7 and his reviews went along the lines of "They are very comfortable with these spring rates.. far from teeth chattering" and "But, if a mouse took a shit on the road and you ran over it, you'd know exactly what it had for dinner."
So anyway, I ordered the K-Sport coilovers. Who did say "You get what you paid for?" They have a really good reputation (d2/ksport) in Japan, and have *just* come over to the states. They retail for $1100, and this is going to be the last groupbuy for $600 on these, since d2/ksport has authorized distributors and a repair facility in the US now.
-Jeff

[Jeff240sx]

ahh the deadline is TODAY! who has ordered the Ksport dampers. or plan to order them..

umm also.. what spring rates should i get if i order them? haha they're are some pretty crazy rates..

Most lower priced tien come in 5/4. For an s13, 7/5 is what's recommended by K-Sport.. 8/6 for S14.
-Jeff

[the240sxer95]

ahh icici so i guess ill be going witht he 9/7 OR maybe the 15/13 LOL

[Zemus]

Is anyone else waiting for that first shippment? Im getting a bit ancey cuz its been like 3-4 months, and I have everything ready, I just want them already :(

[the240sxer95]

3/4 months? how long does it take to ship those things?

[Hawd]

thats on a diff group buy. I ordered a set of the k-sports today for an s14 and they said they will be coming in around mid june. I might be getting another s14 soon to replace mine,hopefully everything works out.

[PSI240SX]

I have been waiting since before christmas lol. They will get here, dont worry.

[the240sxer95]

:) hope so! anyways still stuck on which spring rates to go with.. the ones it comes with is 8/6 he said if i order today i get a set of springs for free! soo what should i go with?? 3.5, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13, 15, 18, and 22 kg/mm

13/11 and 11/9 sound fun :O haha anyone input please! k thanks!

[PSI240SX]

well my buddy got the 7/5 combo and it bounces a little. Doesnt beat you to death or anything but I would like it to be a little bit softer so I ordered 7/5 for track setup and an extra pair of 3.5's to use with the 5's for street use.

[Var]

:) hope so! anyways still stuck on which spring rates to go with.. the ones it comes with is 8/6 he said if i order today i get a set of springs for free! soo what should i go with?? 3.5, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13, 15, 18, and 22 kg/mm

13/11 and 11/9 sound fun :O haha anyone input please! k thanks!


go with 13/11 for track. that would be my choice.... :loco:

[ucfz31s13]

8/6 on the street is not bad at all...

[AceInHole]

well my buddy got the 7/5 combo and it bounces a little. Doesnt beat you to death or anything but I would like it to be a little bit softer so I ordered 7/5 for track setup and an extra pair of 3.5's to use with the 5's for street use.

Tell him to turn up the dampening.... with the 9/7's on at least a dampening level of 24 (4 full turns from soft) is pretty good. I'm running 5.5 turns in front, 5 in rear. Feels very well damped.

Also, after playing around with the shocks for a bit, I don't think they'll handle much over 11's. I think 11's would work, though.

[Powashiftin]

ace, did you get yours from marcus?

[the240sxer95]

so you dont recommend getting anyting over 11? you think an 11/9 would be ok? or is that 11 still pushing it?

[AceInHole]

ace, did you get yours from marcus?
i got mine from mark at the nico group buy.

so you dont recommend getting anyting over 11? you think an 11/9 would be ok? or is that 11 still pushing it?
i wouldn't recommend over 11.... but it doesn't mean it won't work. I still haven't played around with the settings much, and haven't tried full stiff at all, actually. I suppose you might be able to get higher, but since I'm almost at max damping, I don't think anything over 11 would be worth it.

However, these are rebuildable, so who knows.... maybe the valving can be changed.

[the240sxer95]

i guess imma go with 9/7 then

[SimpleS14]

No you didn't. That order is lost and gone and dead forever. The most recent is http://www.nissaninfiniticlub.net/forums/showthread.php?threadid=56575&perpage=35&pagenumber=1
It's KSport coilovers.. same exact thing. Today is the last day to get in and pay.. it's $600 + $40 shipping + $80 for pillowball mounts. Subtract $20 for paying check/money order. If you are gonna pay the latter two, call them today to lock in at $700 shipped with PBM. Or call and pay credit or paypal for $720. If you wait until tomorrow (I think you have 6 more days before the order it placed) it's $100 extra for the late fee.
-Jeff

umm....then why is the date on the first post of the thread I linked newer than the date on the first post on the thread you just linked? :tweak:

[sticky240]

its funny cuz On the K-Sports and [email protected] coilovers they both have the same specs including "36-way Adjustable dampining" and if you look on the d2 group buy the guy says that thats the difference, "D2 is the only company in the world with this technoligy"

I don't know, i missed out on the D2 buy so I jumped on the K-Sports (plus I like the orange better then the purple :ghey: :))

[Zemus]

Ha I think the purlpe is sweet, looks really nice IMO

[sticky240]

yeah I do like the purple/black color of the D2's, I was just kidding

[Zemus]

Yea I just payed 175 for express now that I couldent wait any longer, they should be here in 1-3 days :-D YAY

[DRFT180]

does anyone know of any GB's going on now for either the D2's or K-Sports? And are there any reviews on these? And I've heard of the K-Sports being hard to adjust the height in the rear, or not being able to go low enough? Any comments on these would help alot? I'm thinking of selling my TEIN/AGX combo for either of these coilovers, what do you all think?
Thanks
Lance F.

[Jesus]

anyone got pics? I want to see how low they can go.

[KA24DESOneThree]

I like the idea of good quality and low price... however, I've only found two places outside of Nissan forums to buy them. Reviews would be sweet.

[Uniac]

http://www.vitalmotion.net/gallery/063004/39.jpg
http://members.rogers.com/fifthgencelica/vm/vmwash021.JPG
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/1/web/445000-445999/445254_86_full.jpg

Hope these help

the rear is kind of an illusion, there is no finger gap anywhere, it just looks that way because of the streched tires.

The rims are only 16's and the tires are 205's if that helps

[Jesus]

http://www.vitalmotion.net/gallery/063004/39.jpg
http://members.rogers.com/fifthgencelica/vm/vmwash021.JPG
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/1/web/445000-445999/445254_86_full.jpg

Hope these help

the rear is kind of an illusion, there is no finger gap anywhere, it just looks that way because of the streched tires.

The rims are only 16's and the tires are 205's if that helps

thanks for the pics? Is there anyway to get closer pics in the rear? I was thinking about getting them but i wasnt sure how low the rear end can go. Can it go down lower from were it is now?

[dvdevo]

hrmm wow your rear can go pretty low.

[DRFT180]

how do the feel uniac? What spring do you have and what is you opinion on these? OH and do you have the D2's or K-Sports? Thanks for the help

[DRFT180]

I like the idea of good quality and low price... however, I've only found two places outside of Nissan forums to buy them. Reviews would be sweet.


What other places have you found? Can you post links?

[HaLo]

Actually, the D2 coilovers don't go high enough IMHO!!!

[Steeles]

What other places have you found? Can you post links?

both www.urbanimport.com and www.upspeed.com carries them on the east coast.

[Uniac]

I'm running d2's with 7/5 springs. I've got no complaints other than the camberplates won' let you go with to much - camber.

They are very stiff and the car handles well, not too bouncy, but that may be because of my 55 series sidewalls. Sittign this low upfront isn't the greatest idea around here, i'm constantly bottoming out on the top of the wheel well when goign over big bumps at speed.

To drop the rear that low, i had to get rid of the preload, actually, if i pull out my rears, the top spring perch will be 3/4" above the spring, so if i go over train tracks real fact, the rears are noisey.

Hope i answered the questions, anymore lemme know

[michael1284]

me and a buddy of mine both got these, installed them the same day, they feel great. much better than my sportlines/agx combo that i was using. make sure you play w/ the dampening because it does make a huge difference.

[s13driver]

both www.urbanimport.com and www.upspeed.com carries them on the east coast.

can't find it for the 240sx on their website :/

[Steeles]

email them both their slack with the updates :) ask for chris (spork) at urban or Justin (justified2.4) at up speed

[gogeeta13]

are these ksports or d2 still available anywhere??

[Steeles]

are these ksports or d2 still available anywhere??

you...just... dont.... READ!! do you? FIVE freaking posts up I TELL you where to inquire about the damn things!!!! :smash: :smash: how fucking hard is that?

edit; hell the post ABOVE yours I tell you who and where to call and one up from that is a quote of me telling you 2 places to check with

[Uniac]

you can also contact Marcus at [email protected]

he was the one that did mos the Gb's that i know about. Good guy

[HaLo]

Can't read 5 posts above... I believe that's a new record. :D

Yup, I dealt with Marcus AFTER the group buys and he managed to make me a good deal: 800$ shipped for 7/5 coilovers + pillowball mounts + extra pair of 9kg/mm springs

[Uniac]

Can't read 5 posts above... I believe that's a new record. :D

Yup, I dealt with Marcus AFTER the group buys and he managed to make me a good deal: 800$ shipped for 7/5 coilovers + pillowball mounts + extra pair of 9kg/mm springs


did i ever say i was part of the gb? Got express shipped and everything else for 875, a set of 9 springs would have been nice tho.

Your price was CAD right?

[Jesus]

if anyone got any d2 or k1 in stock.. please pm me

[HaLo]

No, it was USD... But I got them 1 week after ordering, shipped to Montreal, Canada.

[DRFT180]

I would also liek to know if anyone has these in stock. I would be happy to pay the same price as you HaLo. I just don't want to wait months for these if I do order them.

[HaLo]

you can also contact Marcus at [email protected]

he was the one that did mos the Gb's that i know about. Good guy

He's the guy that had them in stock

[KA24DESOneThree]

http://www.trixracing.com orchestrated a group buy on the Nissan Forums. Their website doesn't mention them but it's worth an e-mail inquiry. They're located in Chandler, Arizona in case you were wondering.

[NismoSilvia270R]

are the guys a urbanimport and advauto REALLY busy or what?
i tried ordering from them and havent heard from them in almost three weeks.

[Powashiftin]

yea ... go to 240sx.us and go to the buy/sell forum ... theres a 23 page D2 discussion going on...

I just got mine actually. I was in GB3 and I jus got mine expressed cause D2 was backordered... anyways.. I got them, they look great and i got 9/7 combo plus an extra set of 5's

[Uniac]

No, it was USD... But I got them 1 week after ordering, shipped to Montreal, Canada.


not to bad then, my stuff was supposed to come with gb stuff but there was a mixup, so i got mystuff 3 days later express shipped to marcus' door. No big deal, and i got a steal of a deal for 875CAD when his going rate was 1200.

[gogeeta13]

thanks for the flamings guys, but I still can't get ahold of anyone with these...

I emailed [email protected] and it said email does not exist, returned to sender...

[HaLo]

try [email protected]

[gogeeta13]

thanks Halo!

I ordered a set with 9/7. I can't wait.

I bought another S13, perfect shell. swapping in a fresh KA with some bolt ons.

got ES master bushings, subframe spacers, SPL tension rods, SPL RUCAS, STBs and the coilovers for it. should handle well, I hope, I want to dominate STS.

[Blues13]

I've got D2 in mine with 9/7 recently.. I've been playing around with damping, but it seems full hard seems to work best.. otherwise it's a bit bouncy. Anyone else experiencing this? I actually wish the ride was stiffer, but it handles pretty good.. I've got 16"/55 series tires as well so I'm sure that's a lot of it. Does it wear out the dampers faster at full hardness?

[Mikes14240sx]

I've got 9/7 d2's on my s14 and even on the first dampener setting i couldn't say they were bouncy.

To me the way the car rides with these things is almost a direct reflection of the road surface. If the road is wavy the car fallows them.

I couldn't imagine running anything stiffer, they hardly compress as it is. :eek3d:

[HaLo]

true... I got mine too and they do the same thing..

I do find them noisy though...

[Var]

the bounciness isnt from the stiffness..it's the way the shock is valved...bump vs rebound. So just cause it follows the road and feels stiff doesnt mean it's too stiff. It could be the bump is too stiff but the rebound isnt. Same as when you say they hardly compress...that's bump valving. Also there's high speed, mid, and low speed characteristics. Perks to buying a quality setup is you get ride comfort plus performance. Thats why people say dont run high spring rates with D2's cause the shock dont really work right with them. I would run 7/6 or 6/5 if i bought a set.

[HaLo]

And what's your definition of high springs rates? My definition is something around 12/10... But that's just me. I currently have 7/5 and plan on going 9/7 (have the springs at my place)

[jonnnny23]

true... I got mine too and they do the same thing..

I do find them noisy though...

i just want to know if you were referring to what Mikes14240sx said even on the first dampener setting i couldn't say they were bouncy, or what Blues13 said full hard seems to work best.. otherwise it's a bit bouncy.

Thanks,
Jon

[HaLo]

It's not really bouncy... it follows the road... that how i feel it is..

[stealthx32]

They bounce with 9/7 rates, especially on uneven lots. I co-drove Ace's car @ an autocross last weekend...his D2s were set to 5.5 front, 5 rear, and I set mine to full dampening all around. We both run 9/7 and its a noticeable less amount of bounce with full dampening, but I still feel like I lose the rear end alot on uneven surfaces. Plus my ass hurts. :axe: I'm gonna call Mark and see how much rebuilding/revalving is gonna run. If I'm running full dampening now, when the start to wear, its gonna be reallllllly underdampened.

[Powashiftin]

I havent installed them yet but im thinking i should swap the springs for a 7/5 combo ...

decisions..

[Blues13]

Wasn't recommended spring rates for the D2s 9/5? This seems like a odd combination, but I think I saw that somewhere..

Tires make a world of a difference in ride quality and perceived stiffness, and I've driven on both 40 series and 55 series on the same suspension and the ride comfort is night and day.. I think the discrepencies are probably due to sidewall stiffness. I know this won't effect the bounciness much.. but just talking about the ride quality.

In any case, 9/7 at full damping is pretty good, just wondering if that'll wear them out faster or not. Maybe sway bars would help settle some of the bounciness? Do you guys have them? That'll be next on the list..

[Var]

And what's your definition of high springs rates? My definition is something around 12/10... But that's just me. I currently have 7/5 and plan on going 9/7 (have the springs at my place)


My definition of high spring rates is between 10 and 14Kg/mm
BUt that wasnt my point. I was saying high spring rates as in too high for D2's. So it depends on the shock.

In comparison, the lowest end teins, (the HA's which i have) you can get for about 1100 bucks and they feel great and they can be rebuilt in the USA. 8/6 rates and they are JdM TytE yO

[stealthx32]

In any case, 9/7 at full damping is pretty good, just wondering if that'll wear them out faster or not. Maybe sway bars would help settle some of the bounciness? Do you guys have them? That'll be next on the list..

All shocks will wear through use. Faster w/ the high rates? Probably. Adjustable shocks were first invented for the purpose of being able to retain dampening characteristics after the shock wears out. Its only a matter till you'll be underdampened if you run out of ability to adjust stiffer.

[sykikchimp]

Sounds to me like the bound, and rebound damping are poorly setup for the spring rates you guys are running. 9/7 is high on the street, not high for track, but probably very nice.

Springs absorb irregularities, and mangae sway. Dampers manage ocilation in all modes of spring operation. It takes an observent, and experienced driver to be able to detect small nuances with how the dampers are controlling occilation.

If the ass is skipping out around a corner, then the damping in the rear is set too high. The springs bound action is being restricted by the damper, and so the tire, and rear of the car is literally launched off the bump, and sent skipping across the pavement. Having too high of a spring rate can do this as well.

If your auto-xing on bumpy parking lots, I would recommend much lower spring rates than 9/7. If your racing around professionaly maintained private road courses, even higher COULD be warranted depending on your tire choise.

[HaLo]

Well... all our Auto-X events are on private road courses / tracks... so It justifies me wanting 9/7. :) But 7/5 does wonders. I thought it would be too soft compared to my AGX + GC combo (7.5/6.9) but isn't.

[Powashiftin]

for street use and I mean ONLY street use for now, would the 9/7 combo be too much on the shocks? Since I wont be seeing any track time for a few months I was thinking of swapping in my 7/5 combo instead ... what are your thoughts?

[Var]

If the ass is skipping out around a corner, then the damping in the rear is set too high. The springs bound action is being restricted by the damper, and so the tire, and rear of the car is literally launched off the bump, and sent skipping across the pavement. Having too high of a spring rate can do this as well.




Correct me if i'm wrong.

too stiff of rebound makes it so the damper is restricting the rebound action of the spring when it wants to open up to make contact with the ground on a concave area on the road, making it skip. If it's convex then the stiff bound would make you skip. Or when you smoke to much crack you come up with wierd theories.

[Hawd]

for street use and I mean ONLY street use for now, would the 9/7 combo be too much on the shocks? Since I wont be seeing any track time for a few months I was thinking of swapping in my 7/5 combo instead ... what are your thoughts?

I ordered 7/5 k-sports for my s14 having street use in mind. I'll let you know how it is when I get them. So far I have had tein HE's and it was a bit too much for my tastes. If everything doesn't work out the way I want it to I'm just going to go with Tein Flex. I don't mind trying different suspension setups. I don't know anyone else at all in my area with any 240's so I have to go by word of mouth and trial and error.

[HaLo]

for street use and I mean ONLY street use for now, would the 9/7 combo be too much on the shocks? Since I wont be seeing any track time for a few months I was thinking of swapping in my 7/5 combo instead ... what are your thoughts?

7/5 is better for street... 9/7 is too much for bumpy roads.

[Var]

7/5 is better for street... 9/7 is too much for bumpy roads.

depends on the shocks. you can have good shocks feeling better with 9/7 than D2's with 7/5

[HaLo]

talking about the D2's here...

[Var]

ya ya i'm just being a post whore.

[HaLo]

ya ya i'm just being a post whore.

You still post some good information tid-bits.

Indeed, my 7/5 D2s feel stiffer that my 7.5/7 on my AGX... ;)

But, that's according to butt springometer

[bing]

if you guys are still interested in these, i work closely with mark and have been selling the D2's for a few months.

i dont have any in stock right now, but i know there is one S13 set and 1 S14 set in the warehouse.

i run 7/5 and i love them, as mentioned here, far better than the AGX's with any spring.

[stealthx32]

If the ass is skipping out around a corner, then the damping in the rear is set too high. The springs bound action is being restricted by the damper, and so the tire, and rear of the car is literally launched off the bump, and sent skipping across the pavement. Having too high of a spring rate can do this as well.

Wouldn't underdampening cause similar effects? If you get the rear to oscillate, you're effectively loading and unloading the rear tires in a harmonic wave. Yes, the tires are still touching the ground (versus when overdampened, they can leave the ground), but the grip doesn't exist for you to put down power, or to corner without the ass-end poking its head out.