The 380sx

[smoked240]

If you missed this I am sorry. It's a must see!
Enjoy :)
SPEED CHALLENGER: THE BENSOPRA 380SX - Speedhunters (http://www.speedhunters.com/2013/01/speed-challenger-the-bensopra-380sx/)

[pacotaco345]

That car is stupid, but that's just my opinion...

[adam s]

definitely worthy of it's own thread.

[Jersthecool]

I honestly don't know how you can't like this car! Even without the engine it's such a well done amazing looking car, throw in a vr38 and you've got perfection

[smoked240]

That car is stupid, but that's just my opinion...

Could you please elaborate on your opinion? Just curious on what you don't like.

[Juantwo3]

i wish i was a baller :(

[2muchboost]

Thing looks like it will be slow lol. Regardless of whether or not you like the car you have to appreciate the type of creativity, mechanical know-how, and fabrication skills that it takes to make something like this happen.

Cant wait to see this bad boy moving down the track/streets.

[unwtdhero]

Broooo if it had lips and some stance.....fu.ck that. That thing is titz...

[WIKID S4TEEN]

Fun starts at 3:30
jMKFtu7q5k8

[DJPimpFlex]

Already a thread on this....

http://zilvia.net/f/media-forum-pictures-videos/492643-bensopra-180sx.html

[pacotaco345]

Could you please elaborate on your opinion? Just curious on what you don't like.

I think the front widebody looks okay, however the rear widebody was made to compliment a frs not a s chassis, so that doesn't look very good. Not to mention the sideskirts are pretty bland as well. In addition to that he put a $25k vr38 in a less than $2k shell and no matter what you do to that car I won't be a very good high speed chassis, its just too light and small.

Don't get me wrong its a very well put together car, I just think its the wrong motor in the wrong car with the wrong bodykit built for the wrong purpose..

[Corbic]

It's so god damn ugly.

[LockOn!]

^This.

I reeeeeeeeally hate this bubble flair trend thats been going on recently (save that shit for pre-90s cars). Not only that but the front bumper is killing me. Soooo sick of seeing it.

Car is baller as fuck though, one cannot deny that.

[Matej]

The engine bay looks like a robot covering its face with its hands.

http://cdn.speedhunters.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/BenSopra-380SX-12.jpg

[TigerII]

Not much love on Zilvia for the kit eh? I am suprised.

Can't say I like the bonnet but I do like the original concept (ie the fenders and skirt). His ductail wing from the old kit sets it off.
I am not a huge fan of the old kit but this one works for me.

I wonder how much info on the Speedhunters site is correct. For starters it's a Fuel Safe fuel cell rather than an ATL fuel cell...

Cheers

http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/547390_222066927927915_258060108_n.jpg

[TigerII]

The engine bay looks like a robot covering its face with its hands.

http://cdn.speedhunters.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/BenSopra-380SX-12.jpg

Haha he has his hands on his head.

[LockOn!]

Not much love on Zilvia for the kit eh? I am suprised.

Can't say I like the bonnet but I do like the original concept (ie the fenders and skirt). His ductail wing from the old kit sets it off.
I am not a huge fan of the old kit but this one works for me.



Hoooooly shit that looks way better. I guess the flat paint and jacked up hood and headlamps don't really help this cars case.

Also, that rear quarter angle photo is defiantly this cars best side. Concept or real version. The front end is just so.... bleh.

[TigerII]

Hoooooly shit that looks way better. I guess the flat paint and jacked up hood and headlamps don't really help this cars case.

Also, that rear quarter angle photo is defiantly this cars best side. Concept or real version. The front end is just so.... bleh.

I agree. Best quarter is the rear. Front bar is the weakest part.
I have wondered what Ikeya Formula bumper (Koguchi version) with these fenders would look like. It looks fantastic with Kouchi overfenders so I reckon it would be a good option for people who want to run wide wheels. Pity it's no longer made.

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p257/skeetz_skeetz/555555_zps3efe63f7.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p257/skeetz_skeetz/555555-2_zps428bfca3.jpg

[Miguelone]

I wonder how much info on the Speedhunters site is correct. For starters it's a Fuel Safe fuel cell rather than an ATL fuel cell...


It's rare when speedhunters have any fucking clue what they're talking about.

[kalypso123]

Considering its built to outrun R35s, and hit 250mph I can appreciate its value

http://cdn.speedhunters.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/BenSopra-380SX-20.jpg

[Matej]

During the build process I assumed it would end up gross because Rocket Bunny aero generally looks terrible, particularly on 180SX's. However, it actually ended up looking quite nice, especially for a race car. Sadly, it can even put most of today's drift cars to shame.

The ride height and wheel fitment play a big role, naturally. Though they will probably end up raising it and ruining it with decals and race car junk. :)

[kalypso123]

This Is how it should be.

http://zilvia.net/f/attachments/chat/49359d1358483462-380sx-643866_499412920089404_431062071_n.jpg

[TigerII]

During the build process I assumed it would end up gross because Rocket Bunny aero generally looks terrible, particularly on 180SX's. However, it actually ended up looking quite nice, especially for a race car. Sadly, it can even put most of today's drift cars to shame.

The ride height and wheel fitment play a big role, naturally. Though they will probably end up raising it and ruining it with decals and race car junk. :)

Too much camber on the front. 18 x 10.5 +15 would have been spot on assuming these are the same width as the old Rocket Bunny. (The Enkei's shown are 18x11 aparently but no mention of offset)

[ST34LthyN1NJ4]

i personally love the rocket bunny kits i wasnt sure about the new one when i first saw it but it grows on you... it reminds me of the old school z's im just curious to see what it would look like on a coupe

[_kouki_monster_]

i am not a big fan of the front it looks ok but from the back i kinda like it.

[kalypso123]

Too much camber on the front.

Performance wise, its a must for road racing at that speed.

[kalypso123]

Gets better the more you look at it

http://cdn.speedhunters.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/BenSopra-380SX-61.jpg

http://cdn.speedhunters.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/BenSopra-380SX-46.jpg

[BlewByYou]

Its on Air ride that's why its sitting like this for the photo shoot. This isn't a show car, its an all out race-car and looks so bad ass. Period!

Read the article before making comments on this and that.

[turbo2nr]

the car looks ridiculous from the back!

the hood fitment and lack or proper headlights is whats kiling the front.

and wtf is up with the coolant over flow?? you think after all the fab they could make a nice aluminum one 0_o

[uraznfriend]

i hate it because 9k racing posted this on facebook

[conrad_s13.5]

i fuckin dig the hell out of it,...its different,..and thats pretty damn impossible to pull off with these cars anyway.

...body kit fits its purpose perfectly. Aggressive wide curves. And this car isnt just going to be sitting at your autoshows,....they tryin to break records.

Cant argue much with any of it

[TwelveAM]

Ugly or not, this thing is insane.

[nismog35]

well it looks sick! so haters can eat it!

[WIKID S4TEEN]

Not suppose to look pretty because race car :picardfp:

[Corbic]

Not suppose to look pretty because race car :picardfp:

Whatever.

http://www.carstyling.ru/resources/classic/1966_Ford_GT40_Mk2.jpg

[sil14zenki]

am i the only one that wants to throw that coolant overflow tank into the fiery pits of hell?

[Miguelone]

SO many of you are stressing parts that probably aren't anywhere near how it will end up due to the car being in a half finished state for TAS and shit.

[Twinkies!]

I think the front widebody looks okay, however the rear widebody was made to compliment a frs not a s chassis, so that doesn't look very good. Not to mention the sideskirts are pretty bland as well. In addition to that he put a $25k vr38 in a less than $2k shell and no matter what you do to that car I won't be a very good high speed chassis, its just too light and small.

Don't get me wrong its a very well put together car, I just think its the wrong motor in the wrong car with the wrong bodykit built for the wrong purpose..

uhm no! this motor in this car is crazy insane, this thing will blow the doors off any car i bet

[7RIFT0]

love this car and wish I owned it

[s13_redSILVIA]

Where's the rear bumper?

[Roscoe.]

I think the front widebody looks okay, however the rear widebody was made to compliment a frs not a s chassis, so that doesn't look very good. Not to mention the sideskirts are pretty bland as well. In addition to that he put a $25k vr38 in a less than $2k shell and no matter what you do to that car I won't be a very good high speed chassis, its just too light and small.

Don't get me wrong its a very well put together car, I just think its the wrong motor in the wrong car with the wrong bodykit built for the wrong purpose..

Where do you get $25k for a VR38? Regardless, that sort of logic is rather appalling. Extending that logic, wouldn't a LS- swap be stupid since it costs more than the shell? And I'm generally pretty sure that this car was built with something other than the completely misguided "stance" trend of form over function in mind...

Regardless of how this thing looks, The amount of work it took to accomplish the goals of the project is pretty solidly impressive, and on a totally different level than anyone else right now.

[Oo skyline oO]

Awesome car all around fenders are bad ass!

[Daviticus]

My only question is, where are the awesome brakes that are going to haul this monster down from record speed?

I get that it's an unfinished car, so maybe that's one of many things left to finish. It was said that the glass and hatch were left off to show off the fabrication at TAS.

Being a hatch owner myself, I want to see this go places. Everyone is so bent on building coupes these days.

[kalypso123]

^really? I swear by hatches... Kouki love all the time.

I hope it gets the red paint in its final iteration.

[pacotaco345]

uhm no! this motor in this car is crazy insane, this thing will blow the doors off any car i bet
I never said it wasn't "crazy insane", I just think its stupid.

Where do you get $25k for a VR38? Regardless, that sort of logic is rather appalling. Extending that logic, wouldn't a LS- swap be stupid since it costs more than the shell? And I'm generally pretty sure that this car was built with something other than the completely misguided "stance" trend of form over function in mind...

Regardless of how this thing looks, The amount of work it took to accomplish the goals of the project is pretty solidly impressive, and on a totally different level than anyone else right now.
An 1100 hp vr38? Yes I think that would cost about 25k, and I do think LS swapped 240s are stupid, but that's a whole other can of worms. Also, I never said anything about stance so idk why you mentioned it.

Like I said before I admire the car from an engineering/craftsmanship standpoint. I can see why people like it, just like I can see why people like buttsex, but I don't.

[simmode1]

This car is purpose-built to withstand traveling at 250mph and whatever abuse the owner can throw at it when drifting. 'Stupid' is not an adjective I'd use to describe it.

Visually, there are some aspects I don't like. I usually don't like extreme aero that strays too far from OEM styling, but the front bumper and fender flares really help update the S13's looks and help it rival modern contemporaries like the FRS, IMO.

I think more will grow to like it when the hatch and windows are finally installed. I wanna see the completed version parked next to a Rocket Bunny 86.

[Roscoe.]

An 1100 hp vr38? Yes I think that would cost about 25k, and I do think LS swapped 240s are stupid, but that's a whole other can of worms. Also, I never said anything about stance so idk why you mentioned it.

Like I said before I admire the car from an engineering/craftsmanship standpoint. I can see why people like it, just like I can see why people like buttsex, but I don't.

Nearly any power goal over 300 is going to cost more than the shell. I'm just not following your logic. I mentioned stance in direct relation to form over function as a trend, as one of your major critiques of the car was the look of the wide kit, which is obviously a function over form choice on a car like this, that's all. I'm not trying to say you're wrong for not liking it, or your opinion is wrong, I'm just not following your logic regarding the motor choice, and (perhaps unfairly) was using your critique of the body of the car as a launching point to say that for a car like this the form over function trend inspired by the "stance" trend is a poor way to think.

[BOROSUN]

The engine bay looks like a robot covering its face with its hands.

http://cdn.speedhunters.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/BenSopra-380SX-12.jpg

its doing this...WTF am I doing here!

http://images.wikia.com/adventuretimewithfinnandjake/images/c/c3/3005_jackie-chan-meme-why.jpg

[2.5T_/<ouki]

That car is stupid, but that's just my opinion...

You've got to be retarded. Your age is showing big time with this post.

[KansaiDrifter]

I'm really happy to see this car come out and bring more light to the Nissan V6 into S chassis world! I'm a believer in the VQ, VR engines and like the fact it's all Nissan. I run a Vqvia since the vq is much less expensive then the vr but I think they're a great combo.

I'm surprised Top Secret didn't build this they usually do top speed builds with swaps haha.

[towlie]

Looking at the pics I'm like. That's kinda cool. I guess. *shrugs*

That means they essentially failed

[rwtf]

my asshole itches...

[90240sx07]

I'm really happy to see this car come out and bring more light to the Nissan V6 into S chassis world! I'm a believer in the VQ, VR engines and like the fact it's all Nissan. I run a Vqvia since the vq is much less expensive then the vr but I think they're a great combo.

I'm surprised Top Secret didn't build this they usually do top speed builds with swaps haha.

Agree with a 100% id love to get ahold of a vq but i think top secret could have done a better job but it'll be interesting to see what the finished project is and if it will break the 250 mph mark

[ST34LthyN1NJ4]

Does Any one know if they kept the AWD in this bad boy

[TigerII]

Does Any one know if they kept the AWD in this bad boy

Not according to Dino at Speedhunters.
It's the swap from their R35 but that driveline was based around a Hollinger sequential and an R34 rear end, so it's RWD :)


Too many pages without pics:

http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/537189_232285856906022_1553970047_n.jpg

[Matej]

http://cdn.speedhunters.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/BenSopra-380SX-20.jpg
http://cdn.speedhunters.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/BenSopra-380SX-61.jpg
Not sure if there is something I am missing, but to me this looks better than all the 'Rocket Bunny' renderings.
I like how the car actually looks kind of modern. Normally I find all Rocket Bunny-equipped cars to look atrocious (except for the original S13 and S14), but this one gives it a nice new whirl.

[yomisiu]

it would look cool if it had a better hood and if it still had the pop-ups (functioning or not)

[bc.]

Where do you get $25k for a VR38? Regardless, that sort of logic is rather appalling. Extending that logic, wouldn't a LS- swap be stupid since it costs more than the shell? And I'm generally pretty sure that this car was built with something other than the completely misguided "stance" trend of form over function in mind...
Haha, lawyered. ^basically what he said, shells are always cheaper than motors, unless you really have a shit motor.

[ZenkiKid]

Craziest 180 out next to the DSG 180sx.

[Bushido]

Cant believe all the whining... this car is fucking badass.

You guys should be happy that any company is making new parts for our outdated chassis.

[Corbic]

Cant believe all the whining... this car is fucking badass.

You guys should be happy that any company is making new parts for our outdated chassis.

Why don't you walk down to the advertisers section please.

Also, what on that car actually translates into a real-world part for us? A horrifically ugly body kit that belongs in the 90's along side such styling cues as "Invader" and "Bomber"?

Where is veilside when you need them.

[yomisiu]

veilside?

http://i.imgur.com/gXnnQSU.jpg?1

[kalypso123]

Well said. I could understand vertex...

[Corbic]

veilside?


Sarcasm.

To me, Rocketbunny looks like all the garbage that came out 20 years ago. I don't know why people are all giddy about it.

[yomisiu]

i love the rocket bunny gt86/fr-z/br-z whatevers

http://photos.backfromleave.com/Cars/Fuji-86-Style-2012/86-Style-at-Fuji-Speedway/i-jKFdCqQ/0/L/86%20Style%20at%20Fuji-016-L.jpg

http://lifestylesdefined.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/The-Rocket-Bunny-Toyota-FRS-720x403.jpg


http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=6155&d=1334086342

[pacotaco345]

You've got to be retarded. Your age is showing big time with this post.

If you kept reading you would have seen my educated, thought out post. But whatever its my opinion sorry it doesn't please you.

[pacotaco345]

Nearly any power goal over 300 is going to cost more than the shell. I'm just not following your logic. I mentioned stance in direct relation to form over function as a trend, as one of your major critiques of the car was the look of the wide kit, which is obviously a function over form choice on a car like this, that's all. I'm not trying to say you're wrong for not liking it, or your opinion is wrong, I'm just not following your logic regarding the motor choice, and (perhaps unfairly) was using your critique of the body of the car as a launching point to say that for a car like this the form over function trend inspired by the "stance" trend is a poor way to think.

I get what you mean, and i don't think you're opinion is wrong. Its your opinion not mine but this car just isnt my cup of tea. I like cars that look good and work well. This car only does one and we haven't even seen if it works well yet..

[kalypso123]

http://lifestylesdefined.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/The-Rocket-Bunny-Toyota-FRS-720x403.jpg



uuuggggghhhh yes

this car is leading the next generation of entry level RWD chassis.

I love this...

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7mc46f3KC1qdoifio1_1280.jpg

[indytrucks]

I'm surprised Top Secret didn't build this they usually do top speed builds with swaps haha.

Off topic bu this is what Top Secret is bringing to Nardo.

[Asuka]

I love the 380. It's a perfectly example of Ben Sopra's abilities.
I also do find it amusing the only people that I've heard/seen shit talking the car have no other reason that "It looks ugly." or "It's stupid." with no legitimate justification other than money.
Welcome to the world of real race cars, where money doesn't mean a damn thing. Guess some kids just think everything that doesn't line up with their drift missile bullshit ideals is stupid, it's getting old. But that's just my opinion.

[Legoctf]

I love the 380. It's a perfectly example of Ben Sopra's abilities.
I also do find it amusing the only people that I've heard/seen shit talking the car have no other reason that "It looks ugly." or "It's stupid." with no legitimate justification other than money.
Welcome to the world of real race cars, where money doesn't mean a damn thing. Guess some kids just think everything that doesn't line up with their drift missile bullshit ideals is stupid, it's getting old. But that's just my opinion.

Actually to be fair, in the world of race cars, money means everything...
Without it you are not gonna get very far

[treezzy]

Custom carbon dash WANT!!!! Someone should make aftermarket s13 dashes maybe not carbon but another material preferably crack resistant hah id definitely buy one

[Minz]

I love the 380. It's a perfectly example of Ben Sopra's abilities.
I also do find it amusing the only people that I've heard/seen shit talking the car have no other reason that "It looks ugly." or "It's stupid." with no legitimate justification other than money.
Welcome to the world of real race cars, where money doesn't mean a damn thing. Guess some kids just think everything that doesn't line up with their drift missile bullshit ideals is stupid, it's getting old. But that's just my opinion.

I think everyone comments on its looks (including me) simply because that is the only point of contention. Most people agree that Ben Sopra has done an amazing job with it, such as the engine and the swap, pulling it off etc. and thats the reason its aesthetics are discussed, because its the only point of the car some people don't agree with.

and yes the RB kit is good on certain cars but it just doesn't work here - it looks as though someone stuck a compressor in a piece of gum.
http://rosterwatch.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/adams.jpg

[yomisiu]

Custom carbon dash WANT!!!! Someone should make aftermarket s13 dashes maybe not carbon but another material preferably crack resistant hah id definitely buy one

new carbon dash

Robot Racing Carbon Fiber Dashboard - Nissan 240SX S13/S14 89-98 (http://www.enjukuracing.com/products/Robot-Racing-Carbon-Fiber-Dashboard-%252d-Nissan-240SX-S13%7B47%7DS14-89%252d98.html)

[heyguy]

OMG that Z33 makes me want to just stay away from the states...

[Corbic]

OMG that Z33 makes me want to just stay away from the states...

That's a Vielside kit, it's Jaydeemmm as fuck yo.

Seriously, it came from Japan and was hella expensive. Rocket Bunny looks just as bad to me.

[MamangSorbetero]

So many haters here haha

Appreciate the worksmanship instead of being elitists. Not like you guys can rock something like this right now anyway.

Would love just a basic inline 6 into my daily S13 beater but seeing something like this; a 90's car being used for professional racing is amazing. The old Nissan engineers are having a toast, never thought their secretary car would come this far. (Take a hint Nissan, lets see your S16)

[Corbic]

So many haters here haha

Appreciate the worksmanship instead of being elitists. Not like you guys can rock something like this right now anyway.

Would love just a basic inline 6 into my daily S13 beater but seeing something like this; a 90's car being used for professional racing is amazing. The old Nissan engineers are having a toast, never thought their secretary car would come this far. (Take a hint Nissan, lets see your S16)

Mean while Porsche laughs.

[silvia1991]

Haters gonna hate!

I actually like the car and kit. I guess it's just my opinion though.

[Corbic]

Haters gonna hate!

I actually like the car and kit. I guess it's just my opinion though.

Hoes gonna hoe!

[VNG704]

lol, function over form. /endhaterade

[PeaceOnesxWai]

Just a heads up VIS is starting to make the rocket bunny kit.. so for all those cool kids not looking to drop 2k on a kit, better start saving and hit me up. Ill be getting back my vendor privileges at the end of this month and start a group buy. PM me if interested.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y55/aznnoodleboi51/89NS2402DQS-001_V1.jpg

[tauntdevil]

I love this thread. Shows how much 90% of you hate function and prefer looks over performance... no wonder why you all have 240's xD hahaha.

I do love the cars look, not the front bumper but the rest of the car looks amazing. The engine is not my preference as well but I am sure it will meet their needs.

While at it...
https://static.prtst.net/asset-proxy/acc2e3fd6b41132f0805fa6bfc6a8c102f7c62cb/687474703a2f2f626f6263657363612e636f6d2f77702d636f 6e74656e742f75706c6f6164732f323031322f30312f506f70 636f726e2d5374657068656e2d436f6c626572742e676966/http://bobcesca.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Popcorn-Stephen-Colbert.gif

[LockOn!]

Just a heads up VIS is starting to make the rocket bunny kit.. [/IMG]

Looooool. Everyones gunna play that shit out so fast, just like what happened with Instant Gentleman replicas. :facepalm:

[kalypso123]

Florida group buy!!!