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Var
03-30-2004, 01:52 PM
Ok this sounds stupid to you but ...
I got adjustable whiteline sway bars.. Which hole on the end would be the stiffer setting A,B, or C?

Red
03-30-2004, 02:03 PM
I hear its C.... lever action, Longer lever harder to move... In close makes it EZ

SpeedMonkeyInc
03-30-2004, 02:07 PM
A

The shorter the bar, the less it can flex.

KaKa
03-30-2004, 02:15 PM
A.

Unfortunately the WL bars don't come with instructions. The install page on this site didn't mention it either, but I believe WL online tech support board does.

SpeedMonkeyInc
03-30-2004, 02:20 PM
A.

Unfortunately the WL bars don't come with instructions. The install page on this site didn't mention it either, but I believe WL online tech support board does.

To this day I have no idea if I installed my end links correctly. The bars work great so I guess so.

Here is Whileline's FAQ page on sway bars: http://www.whiteline.com.au/default.asp?page=/faqswaybars.htm

Var
03-30-2004, 02:43 PM
Here is Whileline's FAQ page on sway bars: http://www.whiteline.com.au/default.asp?page=/faqswaybars.htm


Like i said i'm a retard.. I dont get what they are saying on the FAQ page. They say shortening the length of the bar increases the rate but has less leverage??? wtf it's like it's stiffer and softer?
I got one guy saying C and two saying A. I've also heard that the further the mounting points are , the sway bar with act like it's bigger...so a 22mm rear bar with further mounting point will act like a 24mm for example... I'm trying to figure this shit out . maybe i should have put this in motorsports.

Flybert
03-30-2004, 02:52 PM
More leverage means that it can move easier so I'm thinking A for the stiffer setting because there is less leverage. You could always just put them on and switch them to test them, plus you'll get a good feel for what you like.

aznpoopy
03-30-2004, 03:00 PM
They say shortening the length of the bar increases the rate but has less leverage???

its simple if you think about it. a shorter bar is harder to 'twist' or 'snap' in a way. try taking a really short pencil stub and snap it. hard as hell. take a full length pencil and u can almost snap it with two fingers. on the other hand the longer bar has a leveraging advantage because of its length. thats obvious... imagine trying to get a stuck bolt out with a ratchet that is like 2 inches long. now if the ratchet was 1 foot long, it'd be way easier.

how this applies to a car i have no idea.

SpeedMonkeyInc
03-30-2004, 03:05 PM
Think of it this way: You are working on your car trying to turn a suck bolt. You are using a 3/8th inch ratchet, and you just can't get the bolt off. So what do you do? Grab a pipe and slip it over the end of the wrench and viola! The bolt comes loose. Why? Because you INCREASED the leverage, REDUCING the amount of FORCE needed to turn the bolt. Before, with just the ratchet, you had far less leverage, therefore requiring much more FORCE to turn the bolt.
With a shorter sway bar, you decrease the amount of leverage, thereby increasing the amount of force required to twist the bar. Because the bar is not twisting as much, the car rolls less in the corners.

SpeedMonkeyInc
03-30-2004, 03:07 PM
Aznpoopy beat me to that explanation by .02 seconds!

Var
03-30-2004, 03:46 PM
ok the way i figured it was that the sway bar works by leverage. It puts leverage on the opposite side of the car when you corner...so if the sway bar had more leverage, it would push harder on the opposite side when you took a turn, decreasing body roll. i dont think the sway bar twisting has anything to do with it.

Replicant_S14
03-30-2004, 04:05 PM
i dont think the sway bar twisting has anything to do with it.

haha, yeah it does.

It's sort of counterintuitive, but "A" = less roll

aznpoopy
03-31-2004, 09:42 AM
Aznpoopy beat me to that explanation by .02 seconds!

lol. maybe, but unlike me, you actually applied it to cars. :hs: