Best engine swap

[siLLyg00se]

I'm asking all these questions about the motor swaps cause i have to sell my 300zx tt :-/ because i have to goto college and my mom refuses to pay the insurance on it while im in college. i would get a job but wont have time. anyways im planning on getting an s14 and cant deside what motor i want. i know i cant afford the rb26dett. so obviosly its between the sr20 and rb25. im gearing more twards a better 1/4 mile time but also like to pull some nice drifts. so let me know. any info helps.

thanks

[mrmephistopheles]

if you're not even paying your own insurance, you shouldn't get a motorswap.
stick with KA until you can support yourself.

[theicecreamdan]

being tight for money, get your time/miles out of the KA, you paid for it, might as well get some use from it right? or save up and go KA-T

KA-T :wackit:

[OptionZero]

how does which engine you have determine your ability to drift?
Putting an RB26DETT into a civic won't make it a drift machine...i wonder why...

[skatanic28]

rb25 > sr20

try to not get rid of the z32 though, whore yourself out if you have to. for the price of a swap you could have your insurance payment.

[OptionZero]

seriously though, if you can't afford insurnace, how can you afford the $4g's for an engine swap and maintenance on it, not to mention tu ning?

[rps13sh]

haha, he swears he can run 1/4 mile race then just drift. simple as that. lolz. like its so damn simple. kids...

[siLLyg00se]

um engine does matter for drifting. its called weight....

[siLLyg00se]

ok i figure ill get 9-10g's for my z. the point of the 240 is my mom said she would pay the insurance on it and im not gunna go 2 years without a fast car. so i have a few grand anyways i have plenty for the car and swap. the thing is is that my mom said ya she will pay for 240. she hates the z

[siLLyg00se]

oh ya and i d o pay my own insurance now its $260 a month and that with out 2 tickets included haha and i paid for the z and all the mods. no help from parents.

[Daniel]

option... are the 91 cams from a 91 240?? why from 1991? I have a 1991 and was wondering whats so great about the cams

[nightwalker]

they're not that great. as for a motor swap, your mom will hate your 240 more when you swap it. guaranteed

[rps13sh]

um engine does matter for drifting. its called weight....

engine doesnt matter? so i can drift with a geo metro motor in my S13? lolz.

[aznpoopy]

ha... damn rich kids. i like how you take parental support through college for granted. too busy studying to get a job huh? someone should tell all those people work their own way through college without taking a penny from their parents.

anyway you can drift a KA, so i don't know :wtf: you are talking about with the 'engine does matter - its called weight.' eventually you'll need more power but i doubt you are serious enough about drifting (your 1/4 mile comment...) to ever actually need it. anyway, you're right about one thing. if you sell the Z you will have plenty for the swap and a car... unfortuanetly you'll have a 240sx with RB or SR on 10+ year old stock suspension, worn tires, crappy brakes and old fluids; which we all know is awesome for drifting.

[Red]

I'm asking all these questions about the motor swaps cause i have to sell my 300zx tt :-/ because i have to goto college and my mom refuses to pay the insurance on it while im in college. i would get a job but wont have time. anyways im planning on getting an s14 and cant deside what motor i want. i know i cant afford the rb26dett. so obviosly its between the sr20 and rb25. im gearing more twards a better 1/4 mile time but also like to pull some nice drifts. so let me know. any info helps.

thanks

Dont sell the 300ZX-TT... Put it on blocks... its like $15 a month or something lame like that... Then get your ass a GEO baby!

BAM! collage car...

At least that what I'm guna do If I have to move to spokane... untill i'm on my feet.

Is your 300zx paid for?

EDIT: I wish my parents would pay my insurance... Corse I have a full time job and do school 1/2 time...

[siLLyg00se]

lol i know you can drift with anything but better weight distribtution matters... also i do have a job but im going to a college were you finish a 4 year degree in 22 months. you really do not have time for a job trust me. wow all i ask for is a simple answer not to listen to you guys tell me what engine you have doesnt matter for drifting when it does.. lol you gunna drift better with a 60/40 compared to a 52/48 maaaybbbbeee but your alot better off with 52/48. and yes you can do 1/4 and drift. its called a torque-biasing differential. no understearing for drifting and lsd like traction for drag. lol simple question all i get is some stupid responces... 87camarondan, skatanic26 thanks for your reasonable responces. other people.... come on for drifting what would you rather have nice weight distribution or not? also that differantial makes its possible to drift without the gayness of understearing you get from clutch diff's and lsd like traction for drag. good thing i know what im talkin about. unlike you kids

[siLLyg00se]

ya Red the 300zx tt is paid for. and ya anzpoopy my parents wouldnt give me a dime for my 300zx and wouldnt even drive me to pick it up i had to go through my older brother to get it. paid for it myself and i do agree with you how its gay how parents give there kids everything but its not like that at all here for me. but anyways Red if i do that it will be sitting for 2 years. also i always did want a 240 so i decided todo a motor swap cause i plan on keeping it for a while. at least this way im not getting rapped on insurance $$.

[Red]

ya Red the 300zx tt is paid for. and ya anzpoopy my parents wouldnt give me a dime for my 300zx and wouldnt even drive me to pick it up i had to go through my older brother to get it. paid for it myself and i do agree with you how its gay how parents give there kids everything but its not like that at all here for me. but anyways Red if i do that it will be sitting for 2 years. also i always did want a 240 so i decided todo a motor swap cause i plan on keeping it for a while. at least this way im not getting rapped on insurance $$.

Ok well if your going 240 then here is my good info...

Save up and do the RB26DETT... Do it once do it right.

Save up a little more becuse the BR26DETT will cost like CAR + 10K you can do a few usefull mods while its out...


Personaly I still like grip driving better then drifting, but thats me.

[the240sxer95]

what about a B18?? made drifts witht that mother

[thelinja]

lol i know you can drift with anything but better weight distribtution matters... also i do have a job but im going to a college were you finish a 4 year degree in 22 months. you really do not have time for a job trust me. wow all i ask for is a simple answer not to listen to you guys tell me what engine you have doesnt matter for drifting when it does.. lol you gunna drift better with a 60/40 compared to a 52/48 maaaybbbbeee but your alot better off with 52/48. and yes you can do 1/4 and drift. its called a torque-biasing differential. no understearing for drifting and lsd like traction for drag. lol simple question all i get is some stupid responces... 87camarondan, skatanic26 thanks for your reasonable responces. other people.... come on for drifting what would you rather have nice weight distribution or not? also that differantial makes its possible to drift without the gayness of understearing you get from clutch diff's and lsd like traction for drag. good thing i know what im talkin about. unlike you kids

You have your diffs confused. A clutch type isn't going to give you understeer. It's the exact opposite. And also, a helical gear differential (torsen) isn't really conducive to drifting. It's more for road racing.

[FRpilot]

lol you gunna drift better with a 60/40 compared to a 52/48 maaaybbbbeee but your alot better off with 52/48.

weight distribution shouldn't play a big factor in drifting. its helps, but drifting is based on skill and is almost 100% driver. if you are good, you can control your drift by controlling weight transfer. you can drift w/ an open differential too, its just harder.

oh yea. not saying you're a ricer, but remember the cartoon. takumi drifted the ae85 low power sohc, non-lsd car and whopped those posers. :rofl:

[aznpoopy]

you want a serious answer?

you sell your car you will have a 10k budget that has to last you for 22 months. if you buy a 240sx (lets say a s13) you will have a bit over 7k left. that 7k now needs to last you for 22 months. if you apply that to motorsports ONLY you have a 7k budget for all upgrades, repairs and maintenance that will need to do for your car. first thing you should do is replace wear items, get new tires, and change your fluids. get the car in good running condition. that costs a good bit of money. hoses, belts, spark plugs, plug wires, rotor and cap, clutch fluid, brake fluid, engine oil, tranny oil, air filter, oil filter, fuel filter, brake pads, brake rotors, tires - you get the point. if you dont DIY you will spend alot of $$$ for this.

at this point you might be saying well why don't i just buy a SR and skip all that. #1 sr is still a used engine and u will still need to do this. #2 for a sr u will need items beyond whats in the clip. a good swap should run u 4k+ or so b/c you will be putting in clutch, flywheel, maybe resealing etc. stuff that is easy to do when the engine isn't in the car. DIY and u can save some $$$.

now that your car is in good condition you will probably have a bit over 6k left. now you start drifting. entering events, using lots of gas, going through tires like crazy. that costs alot of money. if your suspension pieces weren't broken before they will start breaking now. bushings, control arms, ball joints, tie ends, etc. if your shocks weren't blown before (this IS a 10+ year old car), they will be blown soon. if you are drifting seriously this shit will happen fast as you crash into things and wear our already time-worn components. bumpers, fenders, body panels, lights, etc.

your money is going fast. motorsports are not free. and you still have the better part of 2 years to go. i say at this point you have a 4k buffer. in case anything major happens you have 4k left over. the car still has to function as basic transportation, right? this plan actually leaves you some $$$ for a social life and a bit of security.

as for the perfect engine to start out drifting... KA24DE! why? reliable (seen 250k miles on one). parts are easy to come by. a replacement will run you 3-500 only. its easy enough for you to put it in yourself. if you blow one up drifting, who cares? put it in another. blowing up a SR (let alone a RB) at this point would cripple you financially. oh and its got the desired 'weight distribution' that you care so much about. near 50/50. w00t. you want more power? piece together a turbo kit for 1k. once again if the engine explodes, who cares? get another. ONE used $1500 sr20det = THREE used $500 ka24de. i'd be very surprsied if u blew up 3 KA's in 22 months.

[skatanic28]

if you do end up gettin a 240, i get the feeling you are going to want more power as soon as possible. its gonna be like driving a school bus compared to your z, well a good handling one at least. coming from a vg30dett i think youd be better off with a ka-t or rb25 if you like a motor with power everywhere. i dont care much for all the internet drifting that goes on here, so im not even considering that. good luck