220HP N/A KA24E for sale in Wisconsin

[Mustangs Suck]

220HP N/A KA24E motor for sale

Currently in a body - but the body is complete junk.

Bought it from Maine, led to believe the body only needed little work, but when it arrived, it needed tons.

I have boughten another 240sx now, and just want to stop taking up space in my driveway.

The engine runs perfectly - no pops, no ticks, smooth idle.

Everything inside was customely done, and the total bill was about $4000.

Designed for a 200HP shot of Nitrous Oxide.

Before I bought it, it sat on a beach in maine, so it is VERY dirty, but roars and runs like a champ.

Due to it's dirty condition, and in a crapped body, I have no idea what to ask for it so basically it's up to you what you think it's worth.

Email me at: [email protected] if you have any questions or want pictures of the vehicle.

Thanks,
Chris.

[-=S14=-]

thats a lot of power for a KA. Wait, is that just the motor's power or did it put that to the wheels?

Ryan

[Mustangs Suck]

motor's - 180ish to the wheels

[ryan hagen]

any dyno sheets or anything? that would take alot of work

[drunkmonkalan]

"The engine runs perfectly - no pops, no ticks, smooth idle."

wouldnt 180rwhp require crazy cams? which means the idle would be all jumpy?

if this is for real though, i will probably take the motor off your hands

[Mustangs Suck]

Unfortunatley I have no dyno sheets, the previous owner was a guy that was all over the place and stored all his stuff on it by his mother's in Flordia for easy access (he lived in Maine), but his mom threw it all out since it sat there for so long she didn't think he needed it anymore.which really sucks.

As for the engine's idle - believe me - it chugs like a muscle car, but the idle is very smooth...as in it doesn't go up and down in rpm's, and isn't all uneven.

[Mustangs Suck]

any dyno sheets or anything? that would take alot of work

btw aren't you zemus's friend - his screen name was ryan hagen with some stuff after it.

This is the car he was wanted to buy in Wisconsin, but the guy from chicago offered more, then flaked :cry:

if not, just weird coincidence then i guess :o

[ryan hagen]

yah i am, only problem with us is u missed my window of time to get it, i start workin most likely next week, then i cant pick it up any more and u are about 6-8 hours drive for zemus, 4 hours for me. its sucks he flaked, but most likely i d ahve to miss a day of work to get it now....doubt i will

[Zemus]

Yea, im still consitering buying it, but yea, If you guys want pics ill help and show them, yea and just so you all know all the panels dented hard core (dont expect to fix the body) also only one of the STs is good, and in that pics, that is the frame sitting on the ground.

[Mustangs Suck]

Yeah I know I screwed up not letting you guys have it...guy from chicago fucked me over well - but *shrug*..I guess we'll see what happens.

Thanks for putting the pic up.

And as I've bluntly said in my ad, yes the body is completely crapped out, I told this to the guy that came to buy it..but for some reason he thought "completley crapped out" meant "oh i could still part it out and make $$ off of it "......but whatever.

[Zemus]

Yup, Lost your Time window, We will still see, and ill give you a lil bump up to the top.

[khemix]

I'll take the coolant overflow resevoir offer your hands. How much shipped to 37343?

Chris

[Zemus]

Hah, sorry, he isent parting it out, unless you want the whole car, its not leaving that engine bay

[Zemus]

More Pics, well pic

[Mustangs Suck]

I'll take the coolant overflow resevoir offer your hands. How much shipped to 37343?

Chris

As zemus said, i'm not parting out the car.

The ONLY thing i'll part out (for the right price) is the entire engine itself...and IF and ONLY IF that happens, i'll part out the rest of the body, but I'd like to wait and see if I can get rid of the entire car before then.

[ryan hagen]

i d be interested in the rear bumper if u part it out. but we ll see maybe we can work soemthing out for the car, whats the current price on it

[Zemus]

Ryan I have a Rear bumper for you, you can have it for the full price of... Free haha

[Mustangs Suck]

Highest offer is zemus's - which is my when I get desperate and just want it gone offer - I have a few other's interested, but no other offers yet...

[-=S14=-]

wow 180hp w/o even an intake.

Ryan

[Mustangs Suck]

wow 180hp w/o even an intake.

Ryan

Used to have a ractive intake, took it off and replaced with the stock one w/ cone filter when he sold it.

Take your sarcastic bs elsewhere.

[kidinthehall]

or header from the looks of it. I think the 220/180 figure is a lil far fetched really. not saying you're lying, but that maybe you were lied to.

[kidinthehall]

for reference the fully prepared SCCA 240's running KA24E's were in the 220hp neighborhood

[Mustangs Suck]

or header from the looks of it. I think the 220/180 figure is a lil far fetched really. not saying you're lying, but that maybe you were lied to.

headers were bored out...I was skeptical for awhile when I got it too, I admit, but after I got it all healthily running, there's no doubt in my mind it's beefed up - it's just too damn loud.

[KiDyNomiTe]

Need more info on this engine, 220HP, 180HP, whatever it is. I find it hard to believe you have that much HP and don't even post list of mods. Go get a dyno chart before making claims like that.

[Mustangs Suck]

220HP - crank 180ishHP - wheels

Modifications done to the entire car are as follows:

Fully Built Ka24E Motor - TOP END: Shaved Head, 5 Angle Valve Job, Port/Polish, Hypereutectic Valves, Hypereutectic Springs, Plained. BOTTOM END: bored .050 over, Hypereutectic Pistons, Hypereutectic Rods, Plained, Bored out Headers, Customely built cam.

ACT Puck 4 Kevlar Race Clutch, Short Shift Kit, Front and Rear Strut Tower Bars, Eibach Springs (lowered 2.2"), KYB shocks, American Racing Rims, Port/Polished Intake Throttle Body, Viper Alarm System, Custom White Grills, Supra Style Wing, 35% all around tint, Kamilion Painted Center Console, White Backround Console Gauges, Custom Gauges in Console, A-Pillar Guage Pods, Custom 2.5" Maxspeed Exhaust and Muffler, and NISMO Slave Cylinder, 4:11 Gears in rear..stock but a limited option, lightened flywheel, Turbo Injectors, Cone Intake System, Valve Breather, and Custom VEIN Pressure Controller.

[kidinthehall]

the car still has a MAF on it.....so the VPC makes no sense/isnt there. by "bored out headers" im guessing he port matched them....maybe

[ryan hagen]

"Hypereutectic Valves, Hypereutectic Springs, Plained. BOTTOM END: bored .050 over, Hypereutectic Pistons, Hypereutectic Rods"

damn aluminum springs wont last long, nor will valves, hypereutectic is high silicon content aluminum casting...............pistons yes, never heard of anyhting else like valves, springs, and rods

[Zemus]

Maybe he is just a bit misinformed, like I said Chris, my offer still stand

[DuffMan]

Haha, this is the car of 3si fame. I wouldnt touch this thing with a 10 ft poll. I thought it was never running.

[Mustangs Suck]

Haha, this is the car of 3si fame. I wouldnt touch this thing with a 10 ft poll. I thought it was never running.


wtf you talking about - yet another 3si fag...

car runs perfectly..body is just completely shitted out.

and please don't use "3si" and "fame" in the same sentence - only fame 3si has is from their pos vehicles and pathetic owners.

[Mustangs Suck]

the car still has a MAF on it.....so the VPC makes no sense/isnt there. by "bored out headers" im guessing he port matched them....maybe

As I've said - everything's been customely done for this engine..I have no clue what it all has in there that most don't and vice versa.

There are a few members on NICO (240sx.org) that have seen it in action before whatever the fuck happened to it (when he was trying to sell it for 6k in mint condition) and one assumed it had a SR swap, and was floored when he heard it was a N/A KA24E, and the other said it was very decently fast nice car......too bad no one knows what really happened to the body and just how it became so messed up.

[brokenben]

Haha, this is the car of 3si fame. I wouldnt touch this thing with a 10 ft poll. I thought it was never running.
3si? hmmm?

[Mustangs Suck]

"Hypereutectic Valves, Hypereutectic Springs, Plained. BOTTOM END: bored .050 over, Hypereutectic Pistons, Hypereutectic Rods"

damn aluminum springs wont last long, nor will valves, hypereutectic is high silicon content aluminum casting...............pistons yes, never heard of anyhting else like valves, springs, and rods

nope, i get this all the time - key word - CUSTOM is for this engine.

He took it to an engine company, told them to build it up - came back with a reciept claiming these parts were in it and a $4000 bill.

[Mustangs Suck]

3si? hmmm?
all the losers on 3si.org - a 3000gt/stealth website - I was a member on there for a LONG time and got this car awhile before I was banned from their gay site.

[brokenben]

all the losers on 3si.org - a 3000gt/stealth website - I was a member on there for a LONG time and got this car awhile before I was banned from their gay site.
how long have you had this engine? just out of curiosity. im waaaayy too poor for it.

[Mustangs Suck]

how long have you had this engine? just out of curiosity. im waaaayy too poor for it.

Man this fucker's been sitting here for at LEAST 2 yrs.

and yes, still to this date - it fires up in a second and roars.

[Mustangs Suck]

Maybe he is just a bit misinformed, like I said Chris, my offer still stand

Gonna give it to the weekend - after that - it's yours...I could put it up on Ebay with a $500.00 starting price just to see what I can get out of it..but in all honesty I'd rather give it to you so you can clean it up, throw it in a car, and actually post up some numbers so not only I, but everyone else can stop having their doubts about it and have the mystery solved one way or another.

The ONLY track time this car has ever run was a 15.6 in the 1/4 mile, with bald tires, spun the tires all the way through 3rd gear, a slipping clutch, and running VERY rich.....so if this was perfectly tuned up and you got perfect traction - it is estimated to be a high 14 sec. car, but as we all know, we'll never know until it's put into action...which I hope zemus will be able to do someday...as it looks like no one else is going to take the risk on this thing.

[SilviaBoston]

How much are you looking to get for it? Just throw out a number

[brokenben]

sure wud like to have 220 hp in my shell. oh well. haha

[Zemus]

Alright sounds good Chris, and what is this whole 3si rumor, message me with info and let me know

[ryan hagen]

nope, i get this all the time - key word - CUSTOM is for this engine.

He took it to an engine company, told them to build it up - came back with a reciept claiming these parts were in it and a $4000 bill.


doesnt matter if its custom if it cant be done, read this:
http://home.rochester.rr.com/simmdawg/Danzig/SQ-Perf.html

Pistons: Hypereutectic or Forged?

Hypereutectic Pistons use a high silicon (12-18%) content & are CNC machined to make a stronger casting (People used to call it "Forged Aluminum") They are more than enough for all, save serious race applications. Plus they are lighter, have better ring seal, & less thermal expansion. All things that turbo-charged cars like.

Turbo V6 High Performance Hypereutectic Aluminum Pistons are especially formulated aluminum alloy with substantially higher silcon content than pistons made from conventional aluminum alloy material. Hypereutectic refers to a Supersaturated condition of silicon in aluminum. These pistons have an average silicon content of 16.5% compared to 9.5% to 10% silicon in conventional aluminum alloy. Special casting techniques are used to disperse the additional silicon particles uniformly throughout the aluminum base metal. This characteristic, combined with silicon's extreme hardness, gives Hypereutectic aluminum pistons greatly increased wear resistance in the pin bores and on the piston skirt. http://www.paeenterprises.com/GrandNational56.html

and this explains the alloy pretty good:
http://home.wxs.nl/~meine119/tech/KB/aluminum.html

[ryan hagen]

i just dont want to go pick zemus up a engine that we cant test drivein a chaisis, and that i doubt alot of its internals are possible. if he wants it i will go get it but..........

[turbod240]

Ryan,
You are correct about the hypereutectic stuff. There is no such thing as a hypereutectic springs, rods, and valves. I have only heard of pistons. There is a dyno shop in Madison, the same place where mustangs suck car came from, a guy that works their used to own his new 240. It is hard to beleive all the engine mods, the only way to see would be to dyno it or pull it all apart. But why would someone dump 4 grand in a sohc engine when they could have boughten a swap that would have put out the same horespower for much less. I am not saying mustangs suck is a bad seller I just think he got lied to by the guy who owned it in Maine. Just my 2 cents!

[ryan hagen]

yes, i beleive that is what happened, it sucks, and i dont want to pick it up and it be not what zemus wanted

[Mustangs Suck]

Ryan,
You are correct about the hypereutectic stuff. There is no such thing as a hypereutectic springs, rods, and valves. I have only heard of pistons. There is a dyno shop in Madison, the same place where mustangs suck car came from, a guy that works their used to own his new 240. It is hard to beleive all the engine mods, the only way to see would be to dyno it or pull it all apart. But why would someone dump 4 grand in a sohc engine when they could have boughten a swap that would have put out the same horespower for much less. I am not saying mustangs suck is a bad seller I just think he got lied to by the guy who owned it in Maine. Just my 2 cents!


There'd be no reason for the guy in Maine to STILL talk about the engine then - it's been 2 yrs. if he was lying about it, I think he would of let it go by now.

This engine has been seen in action, and when it was in mint condition the previous owner posted about it all the time...so if he's lying to me - he was also lying to himself.

And no no one's HEARD of hypereutectic springs etc etc etc, but as i've said a hundred times - this engine was customely built - hypereutectic is just a term, and it's been done to all the internals customely from a engine company in Maine....the company BUILDS engines, they don't order parts and then put it in them.

This guy wanted to see how much he could get out of a NA SOHC engine, he has TONS of money and was just a curious person (there are a few of them on the N/A path) - since this 240sx, he's owned a corvette, buick grand national and now is on a Stealth - he mods the shit out of them - and then sells them to start a new project - just his hobby I guess.

[Mustangs Suck]

How much are you looking to get for it? Just throw out a number

Well $500 is where it's at right now..I had it for $950, but the fucker flaked - I've spent over $2500 on this car, and just want some money back...

[Mustangs Suck]

Alright sounds good Chris, and what is this whole 3si rumor, message me with info and let me know

there's no rumor, it was just a bunch of fags on a website that like to talk shit....you will soon begin to see it in this thread if it goes on long enough. people won't accept anything on this engine..so people tend to flame it, thus thinking they'll come out looking cool, so if you do get this engine and get it in a car, and it turns out to be what is claimed - please go on every fucking 240 website to piss on the fuckers that just give me shit for buying the car in the first place.

[Mustangs Suck]

doesnt matter if its custom if it cant be done, read this:
http://home.rochester.rr.com/simmdawg/Danzig/SQ-Perf.html

Pistons: Hypereutectic or Forged?

Hypereutectic Pistons use a high silicon (12-18%) content & are CNC machined to make a stronger casting (People used to call it "Forged Aluminum") They are more than enough for all, save serious race applications. Plus they are lighter, have better ring seal, & less thermal expansion. All things that turbo-charged cars like.

Turbo V6 High Performance Hypereutectic Aluminum Pistons are especially formulated aluminum alloy with substantially higher silcon content than pistons made from conventional aluminum alloy material. Hypereutectic refers to a Supersaturated condition of silicon in aluminum. These pistons have an average silicon content of 16.5% compared to 9.5% to 10% silicon in conventional aluminum alloy. Special casting techniques are used to disperse the additional silicon particles uniformly throughout the aluminum base metal. This characteristic, combined with silicon's extreme hardness, gives Hypereutectic aluminum pistons greatly increased wear resistance in the pin bores and on the piston skirt. http://www.paeenterprises.com/GrandNational56.html

and this explains the alloy pretty good:
http://home.wxs.nl/~meine119/tech/KB/aluminum.html

erm, you had me read what "hypereutectic" means - meaning it is possible, since it is such a thing......sorry if I missed where it said "this can't happen" - if I did - please do show me.

[ryan hagen]

erm, you had me read what "hypereutectic" means - meaning it is possible, since it is such a thing......sorry if I missed where it said "this can't happen" - if I did - please do show me.


i dont think u know much about engines if u thinkg you can make valves and valve springs out of aluminum , rods i highly doubt they would ahv ehad them made pistosn sure... i know there are aluminum rods (toyota) but still it costs alot and is still weak unless huge

[aeontony]

never mind-decided to remove post

[ryan hagen]

lol every one that is subscribed gets to read it anyways, but zemus if u wanna risk it get it, i ll still pick it for them body parts :doh: with some black panels i can do less prep work, unless i go real silver paint.....but since zemus is my friend and i am in on this deal i wanted him to be informed, not that zemus buys this and it isnt what it should be and some how i get hated on by him (im picking it up and helping him tear it apart, in return getting some body panels from it) .... but i still say u can custom make some things aluminum is too stiff for vlaves springs and would fatigue and break, same with itas a valve, it would still burn and strech and then snap, the process makes aluminum harder but in other ways more brittle, quite often harmonics from nitrous can shatter pistons like glass made out of this material/method. so i belive u on the pistons, but none of the rest of the internals, maybe cryogenically treated parts, but not Hypereutectic, i ve had pistons made of it on other motors and have looked into it pretty well.

[Mustangs Suck]

lol every one that is subscribed gets to read it anyways, but zemus if u wanna risk it get it, i ll still pick it for them body parts :doh: with some black panels i can do less prep work, unless i go real silver paint.....but since zemus is my friend and i am in on this deal i wanted him to be informed, not that zemus buys this and it isnt what it should be and some how i get hated on by him (im picking it up and helping him tear it apart, in return getting some body panels from it) .... but i still say u can custom make some things aluminum is too stiff for vlaves springs and would fatigue and break, same with itas a valve, it would still burn and strech and then snap, the process makes aluminum harder but in other ways more brittle, quite often harmonics from nitrous can shatter pistons like glass made out of this material/method. so i belive u on the pistons, but none of the rest of the internals, maybe cryogenically treated parts, but not Hypereutectic, i ve had pistons made of it on other motors and have looked into it pretty well.

You would be correct when you say I don't know much on engines - I'll give you that most definitley - Maybe they were just cryogenically treated for those parts, and the engine builders decided to just put "hypereutectic" in front of everything instead of trying to find the correct term *shurg* I have no clue - They all underwent a strenghtening process...what it is exactly, you won't know until you find out I suppose - the company said "hypereutectic", but might of meant "cryogenically" for certain ones over others.

[kidinthehall]

If anyone ever intends to make any real power with this motor, it will need REAL pistons in it. Hyperucraptic is a nice way of saying CAST pistons. They come stock in plenty of cars (mustangs included)..........i deal with supercharged mustangs on the dyno on a daily basis, and the list of crap in this motor looks like someone got fucked if they really put 4000 in it..........or at the very least got a bogus list of shit that does not exist.

This coming from someone who works at a shop that builds engines and produces some fairly quick cars ( our shop 10.5" tire car laid down 980rwhp on motor)....so take it for what its worth. the motor may very well be strong for an NA KA............but both the power and the parts claimed are pretty much BS.

would really like to see the car on a dyno tho.......hell if someone brought it to my shop id do it for free.

[ryan hagen]

i agree i was just trying to be nicer....... :rl:

[Mustangs Suck]

Well yeah - as we all know, the only way to tell is to get it in a car and dyno it...I have 2 others coming to look at it soon...either way, even if zemus doesn't end up getting the car, I will be making sure the future buyer will send me a dyno chart whenever they finally get it cleaned up and in a car just to put this thing's confusion/speculation to rest.

[brokenben]

i want to see the dyno charts for it too.. now im jus curious :D

[Mustangs Suck]

i want to see the dyno charts for it too.. now im jus curious :D

Get in line man....so many people on lots of forums just want to know wtf is up with this thing...hopefully the buyer will do something with it :)

[ryan hagen]

any news, whats the update

[Mustangs Suck]

Got 2 others interested in it still.... Had 3, but I found out he planned to fix the body, so I told him this isn't the car for him.....Yeah it would of been nice to get the money he was offering...but I just don't want to rip people off on this - I've said it once, and I'll say it again - the BODY is JUNK.

[Trppen37]

I need an engine for a project...e-mail me [email protected] or [email protected] Im seirous about this engine ! are you willing to ship?? anyways e-mail me..

[JagdStealth]

Still have to bad mouth 3si after you were booted off years ago? Man, you sure like to run your mouth. You were banned because you did nothing but flame and bad mouth people, not because of your magic 240. $2500? On what might I ask? Trying to get the strut towers welded back together?

Good Luck selling it and buyer beware...I wouldn't want someone to get ripped off, but $500 for at least a running KA, transmission, and some parts isn't too terrible.

[Mustangs Suck]

Still have to bad mouth 3si after you were booted off years ago? Man, you sure like to run your mouth. You were banned because you did nothing but flame and bad mouth people, not because of your magic 240. $2500? On what might I ask? Trying to get the strut towers welded back together?

Good Luck selling it and buyer beware...I wouldn't want someone to get ripped off, but $500 for at least a running KA, transmission, and some parts isn't too terrible.

I sure do still bad mouth 3si, just a bunch of fags. I remember a time when I got banned for a period of time because I was making fun of people that need to drink to have a good time, but when someone was making remarks about raping my girlfriend, he didn't even get a slap on the wrist, so yeah, after that, of course I have nothing to say but shit about that forum.

And yep $2500 was the estimate to re-weld the strut towers together - yes they are that bad.

[ridebmx]

you stated you have over 2500 in the car, and then you just stated that the estimate was 2500, so yeah, whats up with that

[Ietein]

hey really interested. where do you live. i live in wisconsin. how much are you selling it for.

[JoeC1982]

hey really interested. where do you live. i live in wisconsin. how much are you selling it for.
look at the date :loco:

[exitspeed]

Thread is from 04 man. Read the dates before you post please.