Holy jeebus my ZEAL's came in!!! +pix

[240eggsx]

:rawk: Function V-6 with "Circuit" springrates :rawk:

Here is a link to a bunch of high res pix for you all to enjoy...

http://incredibleedible.net/zeal

Cant wait to install them!!!!!!!!!!! :love: :love: :love:

[lbcklik1486]

Holy fawk!!!! :bigok:

[FRpilot]

wow. where did you pick these up at and how much?

[240eggsx]

I have a brother in law in Okinawa, JP... He just drove down to the local AUTOBACS store and ordered them for me =] They were $$$ =P

[sykikchimp]

Zeal are badass.

If I had to do it again, I would have got function B6 instead of my FLT-A2's..

btw- they are gonna be stiff as FAWK being jdm. Most US spec coilovers are valved much softer than their JDM counterparts.

What is the difference b/w the V6 and B6?

[Halz]

Damn it, I'll keep posting this about Zeal coilovers..

http://www.sccaforums.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/7/676.html#000000

They are being given more credit than they actually earn (and that goes for all JDM coilovers, frankly).. Get them dyno tested before you install them so you know how things change when you turn the adjuster knob.

This person here will test them for free
http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=578768

[sykikchimp]

I speak from my limited experience with them. They are very well controlled, and worked beautifully on track. adjustment mechanisms worked smoothly, and are easy to operate. Build quality appeared excellent. They were already sorted at that time, and the owner had done a lot of tweaking. So no idea how hard they were to get to that point.

[Halz]

What about them other than them not totally falling apart or rusting after being driven on salted roads and further neglected, is good?
Are they easy to rebuild or something? Low total cost of ownership? Well documented and/or open, well spoken staff? Well defined, large controllable dampening range?

For a strut that is theoretically supposed to be used on the track, why should a JDM strut be stiffer than a US strut? Is it because race tracks in Japan are in better condition than race tracks in the US? Dampening is not something that is culturally or regionally defined; its *entirely* objective.. as constant as physics can be

I know people/companies do not try to make bad products.. so maybe that guy's dynoed struts still need to be tuned still, somehow. I'm glad hes brought his issues up with the producer

[240eggsx]

Damn it, I'll keep posting this about Zeal coilovers..

http://www.sccaforums.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/7/676.html#000000

They are being given more credit than they actually earn (and that goes for all JDM coilovers, frankly).. Get them dyno tested before you install them so you know how things change when you turn the adjuster knob.

This person here will test them for free
http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=578768

Good info on the sccaforums site, but how can you compare celica coilovers to silvia coilovers. You cant.

[Salty_X]

They look nice. :)
Only problem I have with Zeals is their tiny brackets... :ughd:

[240eggsx]

Tiny brackets? Care to elaborate on that?

[mistaanime]

damn those are sickk.....

[West]

Mmmmmmmm. One of my fav coils ever. Only ones I would get over those would be a set of DMS Gold 40mm. I couldnt imagine having a set of coilovers worth more then my car though :) Congrats man! Hope you put them to good use!

[sykikchimp]

He never says what model Zeal coilovers those are on the SCCA thread, and the one guy that made negative comments was wrong b/c he read the graph upside down. They are very nice coilovers.

The ones this guy bought come with what I must assume are higher spring rates since they are rated "Circuit". Most of these types of coilovers are made for the street. (despite the "Off-road use only" legal disclaimer)

Japan's street's are generally in much better shape than ours in America (at least that's the hearsay I'm going off of.) To better accomodate US drivers they use softer valving.

Whats so hard to understand about this?

No one is trying to say that Zeal's or any other JDM coilover is better than Koni's, or any other american suspension mfg. There are plenty of other companies that make dampers that are likely a fair margin better. But those are typically also much more expensive. $2000 for a set of Zeals is pricey.. but still cheaper than a set of Advance Designs, or Motons which I know are likely better just from reputation.

I personally didn't buy my coilovers b/c they were JDM. I bought them b/c they are a matched spring shock combo with good adjustability, and US support that uses quality componants. There aren't exactly a whole lot of US companies making these types of parts if you haven't noticed.

[SR_TeXaN]

How Reputable is Tien, and some of there higherend models?

[drift freaq]

snip happens....
No one is trying to say that Zeal's or any other JDM coilover is better than Koni's, or any other american suspension mfg. There are plenty of other companies that make dampers that are likely a fair margin better. But those are typically also much more expensive. $2000 for a set of Zeals is pricey.. but still cheaper than a set of Advance Designs, or Motons which I know are likely better just from reputation.

I personally didn't buy my coilovers b/c they were JDM. I bought them b/c they are a matched spring shock combo with good adjustability, and US support that uses quality componants. There aren't exactly a whole lot of US companies making these types of parts if you haven't noticed.


Ok your wrong on Advanced Designs being more expensive than the Zeal's you can get all 4 corners of Advanced Designs for $1600 for our cars. they are the deal of the century when it comes to high performance race coilovers.

[DuffMan]

Yeah it isnt really new info that a lof of adjustable shocks/struts including the ones on many coilovers arent very adjustable.

That being said the Zeals on that dyno were still pretty decent. Not much change in the front ones. Basicly 2 modes, a "street" mode with less low speed dampening. My Tein HE's I would guess from the way they drive, would show similar results. The low speed is probably adjustable for comfort, while medium to high speed isnt going to change, especially with the fronts.

In Japan when you order coilovers lots of times you can specify the spring rate you want and they will CHANGE the valving on them for that spring. When you order a different spring rate here, I doubt that gets done.

Koni's are very nice for a car like a civic. If I had a civic I would probably get koni's+GC coilovers. The problem with the 240sx is that our front struts have a lack of suspension travel. Koni inserts doent address this problem. They also arent easily adjustable in insert form which is a PITA.

Other options are:
Ohlins - very expensive
Penske - No idea if they could make a strut for our car, but if they do I'm sure it would be very expensive
DMS - Good coilover setup. Doesnt look like the lower mount is adjustable, but they have a lot of travel so should be okay.
GC + Advanced Design - I think this would cost about $2000. Also a good setup and what I would get if I had the money. Not sure if they make a lower mount for our front struts yet, or if it costs extra than the normal $400 per side.


So basicly, if you are able to drop $2000 for coilovers, I would probably go with AD or DMS. But for less the JDM brands are usually good units, and the lower adjustable mount is great for our cars.

[Salty_X]

Tiny brackets? Care to elaborate on that?
I mean compared to other coilovers the front lower bracket is smaller, which can cause clearance problems with certain wheels depending on their width and offset. This is easily remedied with a spacer though, it's just a minor inconvenience.

[DuffMan]

Ok your wrong on Advanced Designs being more expensive than the Zeal's you can get all 4 corners of Advanced Designs for $1600 for our cars. they are the deal of the century when it comes to high performance race coilovers.

I was under the perception that that covers the shocks/struts, you still need to buy springs and seats.

[AAA240SX]

Have any of you guys had an experience(s)/info. on the Function-D Coilovers from Zeal? They're even more pricey than the V6. Are those any better?

I'm researching for a set and I may go with Cusco CompZR or Zeal V6. To be daily driven and for track usage every spring -> mid-fall.

[ThatGuy]

AAA this thread is a year old.

[AAA240SX]

Damn...i didn't notice...o well...