Got Boost? Turbo KA! Just done installing greddy kit w/ intercooler and w/ Pro E-01

[Red]

Well my Greddy turbo kit install is done on my 95 240sx...

The kit works fine, Cept for the over boost... I think the shop that put my turbo back together messd up my spring setting... No biggie I'm guna get it tuned at 8 PSI it only spiked to 12 PSI my first drive... yes thats no good.

Anyways lots of pics... in no order. Took about 35 hrs to install with my bro's help.

[Red]

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[Red]

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[OptionZero]

How can it work on a '95...i thought it a '95 was OBDI and the E-manage was wired for OBDII....which is '96 and up

[240Stilo]

I dunno if you wanna scratch off license plate numbers on the pics. Very oily cross member, I hope it's not a bad oil leak.

[Maeda]

Nice. Finally more KA-T's.

[Steeles]

looking good, how's it driving?

[Red]

The oil is from an old... Problem... My last oilpan had a run in with somehting large and ended up with about a 2 inch wide crack that you could put a toothpick through... Needless to say it dumped my oil all over the place...

About the OBD...

No where ever does it say only OBDII... The Greddy E-manage will wire up to just about anything.

The only wires it truly changes are the MAS flow signal, and your Ignition signal...

All the other wires draw data... None but the two above break the lines so all they can do is look

As far as I can tell the only reason the kit states 96-98 is emmisions crap... Its the only way they could get the certs.

The car drives fine... I did a test drive to check for leaks... No leaks... Then I took it on the freeway to get it nice and hot... Drove for like an hour... still no leaks... Smokes a little... I think its oil buring off the turbo, I think thats norm for now...

I only hit the gas hard once becuse I've never had a turbo car or driven one... All I saw was vacume pressure I thought maby I put my E-01 on wrong... But once I stood on the gas a little and the boost hit 6-8-10-12 and the car seemd to just JUMP forward... my bro yelld at me soon as as it hit 8 psi but it already hit 12 befor I could react...

No damge tho... The KA is a horse and can take it...


How do you set a manual wasegate?? I need to get it back down to 6psi on the wasegate then I can have my E-01 bring it up to 8 psi...

[Red]

Well I cant get in to get a tune and dyno untill next thursday... So I guess I'll try and set a hard boost, and hope I dont blow up my engine...

But the A/F is at 14.7 (no shit) cruzing and 12.5ish when I get on it... So it looks hella good already.

[orion::S14]

Ahhhhh....

Looks good, but get rid of the fuel hard lines on the intake manifold. Just run rubber hose from the filter to the rail, etc...

- Brian

[Red]

Well I got the System to hold 6 psi... I ran the hose strait to the hot pipe to the wastgate and it holds... I'll put it back on the E-01 and see if it will not spike... It should run the stock 6 psi with the boost off on the E-01

EDIT: Yes the hard lines will go soon... Full braid when I get the chance.

EDIT: Also it is SOOOOOOOOOOOOO fun to drive now... My car has get up and go power now... Makes getting to freeway speed that much more fun!


BTW the wasegate makes a cherp cherp cherp cherp when you let off the gas while in boost...

[CleanS14]

Nice job man... I'm thinking of getting this kit too... how many miles did you have on your KA? I'm just curious.

[Jeff240sx]

370cc injectors (isn't that what GReddy kit comes with) will NOT handle 12psi many more times. That should be nearing the 300hp area, 20-30hp past 370cc is good for.
-Jeff

[eyustfu]

nice kit, im planning on getting it within the next few weeks, are you planning on dynoing it?

[Red]

I have 120k on my engine...

Yeah it has 370cc's in it... I got the boost to hold at 6-7psi now...

I will dyno it when i get it tuned next thursday.

[russian]

which intercooler did you use and how hard was it to line it up?

[Red]

which intercooler did you use and how hard was it to line it up?

Greddy sells an intercooler for the kit. the fit is very good!

EDIT: Also if ANY of you need the instructions for the intercooler I have them and can E-mail them to you in PDF form... I also have the Updated Turbo kit instructions... (the ones on there site are wrong, but the new one leaves out parts too... haha!) Its to big to E-mail to hotmail and others like that... I will try and shrink it down so I can E-mail it in pic form. Or get someone to host it for download... like zilvia?

[aznpoopy]

put up the updated instructions! i wanna read it. if the kit's popularity takes off i imagine that would be a pretty useful resource. i'm always thinking about turbo down the road. you did this to a 120k engine? and a OBDI too; i also have a '95 OBDI and was wondering if any extra work was needed to get it working. did your engine have any problems before? (major or minor - timing chain rattle, noisy lifters, detonation, etc.)

edit: i just finished looking through your pictures. great shots... you could turn that into a 'how to install your own turbo' diy lol...

[TNathe]

awsome pics man. Those definantly are useful for a guide to make your own intercooler piping and what not.

[Red]

The only problem I have right now...

Right after the install of the E-manage ( I installed it 2-3 weeks before the turbo kit) my idle is kinda messd up... It will sit and 750-760 rpms for a while then just drop to 500 rpms... some times killing the engine. I run the AC to keep it at 1k rpm and the car does not die...

Also I have a small kink in my power stearing line which makes it whine... I'm going to buy hose guide so it cant kink... and more PS fluid.

I need to get those worked out.

Other then that. No my car ran fine before the install...

I took out the silencer :) its got a nice tone with the turbo...

Also this kit keeps your CAT... and emmisions stuff... Which I like, less chance I will fail smog.

I cant upload the PDF's to big... I will try and hack them down to multy files.

[Red]

I cant get my hands on the full adobe pdf creator right now... So this is a short notice slap job...

IC instructions... Dont let the pics fool you... Its a shit load of cutting! and trimming... took a while to keep test fitting so I did not cut off to much bumper.

EDIT: Get someone to make the upload 1.2 megs and I can toss the Greddy PDF's on here... Much better then the jpg's cuz you can zoom!

[TNathe]

if you guys want the instructions just go to Greddy.com and then go to Technics. I downloaded their installation guide for the turbo kit and intercooler kit and am using those to base my custom turbo kit off of so I don't get half way through the project and come across something I forgot to buy like some little gay fitting or something.

[Red]

HAHA! they just put those up... I calld them up and bitched at them a few times becuse there were no IC instructions and the TK instructions were fukd up bad... Like use my fuel rail part # to bolt on the turbo heat shield... (wtf?)

yay for them they listen good... took them... umm 6 days to do it... not bad!

EDIT: also the front line people piss me off at greddy they say no we cant e-mail then docs to you... the techs are great, He went out of his way to E-mail me the correct docs!

[Powashiftin]

What was the total cost for the greddy kit and intercooler?
Does the kit come with all the oil lines to the oil pan and all that stuff?

[Red]

The avrage price for the kit is $2800 the E-01 is $500 and the intercooler is $750ish... Yes thats allot but the turbo is rated for up to 470hp so I think its not so bad, I priced out how much a TD06-20G turbo costs and its $1100 just for it... I think I'll be running on this system for a long while.

I cant wait to dyno and see what it did for me.

[russian]

i was thinking about the same setup. i dunno if i want to get a kit tho, i definately wanna peice my own together, but i was seriously considerin profec e-01 and emanage for Fm. time will show. go to the dyno!! :spank:

[TheSnail]

I Hope the ka's bottom end will be able to hold together for a couple of oil changes.

[Powashiftin]

did you have to drill a hole into the oil pan for this setup or no?

the E-01 is a boost controller right?

[russian]

e-01 is a boost controller. yes.

[TheSnail]

e-01 yeste boost controler, da

[russian]

pticsa Govorun. popugai ti. :cool:

[Red]

did you have to drill a hole into the oil pan for this setup or no?

the E-01 is a boost controller right?

Yes... I think there is a pic of the oil return... what you do is mount it to the oil pan with the spacer and bolt... then drill a hole where it lines up... weld it on and paint.

I had the shop install the oil return... I dont have a welder and it was the only part I did not want to do...

[TheSnail]

tell me if I get close to translating

"writing G...(?). Guess it " :cool:

[russian]

i was joking, i called you "Talkalot" bird. and a perot since you repeated me :Owned:

[Red]

I'm just guna take a wild guess and say that was russian right?

I think its just amazeing that people like you can pick up 2 lang's and have them both fluent...

My bud Max is like that, he is russian and it always blows me away that its like second nature.

I would like to learn japanese that good, Not becuse i'm some ricer tho, I hae always liked Japan and the culture they have over there. I love the Anime and the way they express things. I would like to save up and try to live there for a year...

[russian]

most definately learn at least 1 other language. it will open a world for you. another world. whether is russian, spanish or japanese, you will learn to understand those things that are "not meant to be translated". its also cultural

[Powashiftin]

any news on the car man? im interested in the dyno #'s

[Red]

This thursday man... I'll post #'s don't worrie...

Its running better... It idles fine now...

I think it was the anti stall... it was at 1% with no imputer #'s and I turned it to 0% and it idles fine now...

[jetbill]

any recomendations on adding this kit to a motor with 180k? or just go sr being the motors high milage. DAMN TIMING CHAIN RATTLE.

[crioten]

damn, i didnt know that it would work on OBDI...i might have to get this now...

[crioten]

id also like to know everything that you had to buy as well, like gauges and did you buy a fuel pump?

[Powashiftin]

i heard it will work on OBD1 cars, but you need the Greddy E-01 to properly use the E-Manage

[Red]

All you "need" is the TD06-20G turbo kit...

I opted to buy the E-01 becuse its a nice system, does lots. takes out the need for a boost gauge, But I am going to get one anyways so I can leave the E-01 showing my duty cycles and what-not.

The intercooler is just a good thing to have, I plan to run more boost soon and did not want to mess around with the turbo twice, Also, it just looks cool.
(what I dont like about it, is people look at my car now while its parked, I'ma bitch slap the next guy eye-ballin my woman) lmao

I have a walbro fuel pump that I need to install still... I hear they are shotty tho... Ohh well, if it blows I'll just get a damn fuel cell...

I also got some Heat range 8 plugs I will be installing today...

But still no dyno tell Thursday.

About the SR, I chose to stay KA becuse its in the car... I would like to see what type of HP I can get. Also I have no need of another 4 banger engine when I have a fine one now. If I do ever get an engine it will be something bigger.

It's all up to you. (Use the FORCE!)

[Powashiftin]

enjuku's site says that for obd1 cars (1995) like yours, you will need either the greddy profec E-01, or the support tool to reprogram the emanage

good luck on the thursday, post some pics and all that crap

[Powashiftin]

by the way, where did you mount your E-01?

[Red]

The E-01 is right above the middle air vents... Slightly to the left... For how I sit it works good... I can see the warning light easy.

I'll post pic's. I gota barrow my friends camera and get some engine bay pic's too...

btw the spark on the spark plugs are awsome... Most plugs have a little spark like - <-- this long, these new plugs sparks --- <-- that long. Its huge.

I'll see if I can get a side by side spark pic of the 4 prong plats vrs's these new ones...

[4-20sx]

how much was ur kits?..

[Red]

The avrage price for the kit is $2800 the E-01 is $500 and the intercooler is $750ish....

I will quote myself from the 1st page...

Also Enjuku is selling the TD06 kit for 2699.99 right now.

[crioten]

so you dont have any other gauges besides the one on the E-01?

i really think that im going to get this kit...i dont think that i have enough balls for a custom turbo setup or a sr swap...

[Red]

so you dont have any other gauges besides the one on the E-01?

i really think that im going to get this kit...i dont think that i have enough balls for a custom turbo setup or a sr swap...

I have a autometer volt gauge, and a/f gauge...

But the E-01 is awsome!

Its got tuns of things you can display.

Boost Pressure, Engine RPM, Speed (in KPH), Analog signal 1(a/f) , Analog signal 2 (volts), Pulse 1 (not used yet), Pulse 2 (same), TPS, Boost contrller valve duty cycle, Airflow input, Airflow output, normal injector duration, Total injector duration, normal injector duty cycly, Total injector duty cycly, Ignition Timing Adj, Also the extra injector duty cycles... (2 injectors)...

You also have 3 boost setting... You have (Lo boost) (Hi boost) (Overtake Boost)

I was thinking of like (8 lo) (10 hi)

[crioten]

man, thats awesome, i cant wait to get the greddy kit later this year!!! get on the dyno lol...i want to see charts :)

what is the normal boost setting for the greddy kit? isnt it 6 or something?

[Red]

Its 6 psi... It hits 6 - 6.5 most the time... .5 no big.

[jetbill]

any recomendations on adding this kit to a motor with 180k? or just go sr being the motors high milage. DAMN TIMING CHAIN RATTLE.


any recomendations??
:lockd:

[SilviaDriver]

check your compression and ahve a leak down test

if the numbers are good.then the motor is good to go

milage doesnt mean nothing

[mutkung]

so this kit does work with a 95 right??? I'm saving money for this kit too but I've red so many things about it and most of it said that it'll fit 96-98.
I got a 95 model but just recently put a 96 engine on.
Really Really nice though.

[crioten]

so this kit does work with a 95 right??? I'm saving money for this kit too but I've red so many things about it and most of it said that it'll fit 96-98.
I got a 95 model but just recently put a 96 engine on.
Really Really nice though.

it works on OBDI and OBDII, so that means any 240sx...

only question is how does the IC kit work on s13's? think its the same?

-glen

[Red]

Well I know a few of you have been waiting for Dyno #'s from me...

Well your guna needa keep waiting...

I went in to get my car tuned and they did not have the laptop at the shop...

We were going to try and tune it with the E-01 but it only has 3 channels that you can display at a time...

Also... Somthing that I did not think about is my old plugs and my new plugs cant be regapped... My car hits about 4k rpm with 6psi and starts to have huge stutter issues... They say my car is having issues tossing a spak accross the huge gap... its had this issue the whole time I have had the kit on... I thought it was tuning issue they say its my plug gap...

They are the car guys so I'll listen to them, He said all the way up to 4k looked very good... A/F was about 12/1 Fuel pressure was around 55-60psi

But as soon as my pressure built to high and hit about 4k rpm my car would crap itself... He said the A/F went to about 13/1 and the base tune looks fine, but the ignision wire he connects to for RPM spikes out...

There spark plug guy is ordering me some new NGK's with a small gap.

Also I notice when I hit both power windows at the same time my idle drops to -500 rpm... this has always been an issue... I do have a volt gauge and it reads 14 volts norm so thats fine...

I'ma price out an MSD now... May as well fix this right.

Anyways... I'll post whats up when I find out so you guys dont have the same issue...

[Powashiftin]

cool cool, what are you tuning with? are you going to use the emanage, im a little confused

[Red]

cool cool, what are you tuning with? are you going to use the emanage, im a little confused

I will use the software for the E-manage to tune (on a laptop), a wideband 02, and a dynojet...

I was going to use the E-01 But we need to view more then just 3 things at a time.

I wish I had my own dynojet... Tuning does not look that hard.

I hope the spark plugs solve my issue, and i'm glad it is not leaning out...

Anyways I'll be calling them monday to see if my plugs are in to see if that fix's my studder issue, and to set up another day to tune... (if the spark works) The dude is keeping my software so that he can learn to use it, so it wont cost me all the ca$h while he reads the manual...

[Powashiftin]

did you buy the software tool for the Emanage? Im getting a laptop soon , so when i get the kit i might as well order the software tool and all that shit... idk

[ICKY]

Hopefully the price for this kit will drop alittle bit. I was also thinking about putting this kit on my 95 KA. Seems like a very good kit. I havnt heard to many bad things about it. I've heard worse problems with people who have swapped SRs.

[Powashiftin]

yea definately. Seems good. Asad over at the freshalloy.com forums got 265HP/284 TQ at 11psi on a homemade kit with a t3/t04e.

You guys think the greddy kit could produce equal, if not better numbers?

[AJ]

so about that software... where did ya get that from?

[Red]

I own a laptop already,

And I orderd the software from Enjukuracing... You have to call em up.

[Maeda]

Red, We gotta share some numbers from your profec e-01.
I don't think mine is working...

[Red]

Red, We gotta share some numbers from your profec e-01.
I don't think mine is working...

Let me finish makin mine run perfect, I dont want to give you any bad #'s.

I'm guna set my laptop in the pasnager seat all F&F style! :rolleyes: :ugh: lmoa

I'm rich beotch! :loco:

Almost time to go home, Sooooo guna party this weekend! :coold:

[Powashiftin]

so once you get your emanage all tuned up, you can share your numbers?

[sil80drifter]

nice job.
is russian really russian.
cuz i am

sil80

[Maeda]

Heh, I can't steal the fuel map cuz i'm running a really weird setup, I just wanted to know your gain and start boost settings o.O.

[Red]

Right now I'm at 5% 10 Gain 3.0 start...

I duno how to work this yet :) Its like 6.3 psi

I also have 33% 10 gain 3.0 start Its like 8 psi

Those help?

[russian]

nice job.
is russian really russian.
cuz i am

sil80

da. :Ownedd:

[sxse240]

As far as pricing, the best I have found for the Greddy kit (http://www.city-speed.com/webstore/eng_GreddyTurbos.html) is at www.City-Speed.com (http://www.city-speed.com) for $2515, plus another $690 for the intercooler (http://www.city-speed.com/webstore/eng_GreddyIntercooler.html). Anybody ever dealt with these guys to know if the are legit/reputable?

[fdapolice]

i just bought the kit from hopupracing.com with a price match of city-speed.com. They actually beat them. I'm gonna wait to install though, i might be buying internals.

[sil80drifter]

too legit to quit?

sorry, not very contributable.

sil80

[S14DRFTER]

As far as pricing, the best I have found for the Greddy kit (http://www.city-speed.com/webstore/eng_GreddyTurbos.html) is at www.City-Speed.com (http://www.city-speed.com) for $2515, plus another $690 for the intercooler (http://www.city-speed.com/webstore/eng_GreddyIntercooler.html). Anybody ever dealt with these guys to know if the are legit/reputable?

I bought my kit from them and everything was really smooth. I called them once to make sure things were on track and they told me that the FMIC was on backorder and would be shipped later than the turbo, but then said they would try and get it as soon as possible. They both ended up here in a week. Great service. No problems.

[Colorado S14]

Hey Red any update on the dyno?

[Red]

Update:

Car door got tore up by some a hole that wanted my shet...

Other then that my car runs at 9/1 AFR... The jack ass who was tuning my car was reading it a the tail pipe through the CAT... So he was guess'n on the #'s some what...

I only got 188hp at 8psi at 9/1...

My psi is now 8-10 and still at 9/1...

As soon as I get my car back from the repairs on my door... I'm guna lean it out to 10.5/1 or 11/1 and crank the boost to 10psi all the time...

Should be a bit better... I'll have to go to a dyno after i do that...

+ I still need to install my Walbro FP

[S14DRFTER]

Red- Just wanted to know where you put your BOV? Did you put it closer to the intake manifold or the turbo? (any pictures would help)I bought the Blitz DD to go with my Greddy kit, Blitz DTT, and just finished installing my Walbro pump. I have been putting off the install of the Emanage because I still wasn't sure how to do it and didn't want to mess it up but plan on finishing that today, just going to match wires from the emanage with the wires from the ECU and hope for the best.

[Red]

I dont have a BOV yet... Too poor now to get one...

I tore my back right tire up bad... Had to replace my back tires which put me out 300$

And I got a GF so all my cash is gone now...

Ohh well...

I'm going to get a cheep ass bosch bov, if any at all... Finish my tuning and call it good... For now.

[S14DRFTER]

Red-
I always wondered if I could run the kit without a BOV. (Since Greddy doesn't include one, I figured I could) I may just go ahead and start it up without the BOV just to see if everything is running correctly, then when I get the chance have the BOV installed. Plus I'm not sure where to put it yet, I keep hearing two different stories. Put it closer to the turbo or closer to the throttle body? Any suggestions from anyone?

[kandyflip445]

I think it would be better to not crank up the psi till you get a BOV. The more psi you run without a BOV the more strain you're putting on your turbo. If you keep the psi up without a BOV you'll eventually ruin your new turbo.

[Red]

Well I was thinking of running mine right next to the intercooler on the hot side... Thats the 1st spot the air hits resistance and I think it would vent well there...

But I think one right next to the intercooler on the cold side would also be good becuse when the air backed up that would be the same resistance...

Also a reason for those spots is it would be able to be seen from the front of the car... which would look nice...

I also would like to vent both to air so I need to switch to a blow through MAF.

Thats just my idea.

UPDATE: Nissan has my door handle on back order... It will be in tuesday so i'm not getting back my car untill next week... "sigh"

But I am going to turn down my spring so the boost stop near 6-7psi more often.

[Ghst 01]

I ordered my FMIC from www.city-speed.com. and they already emailed me wiht my tracking #... so hopefully it will be here by the first part of next week.....

in regards to the BOV.... since the boost is set so low... the BOV is not so important for now... and what i heard it is better to place it closer to the TB so u dont run the risk of running to much boost into the engine.

[orion::S14]

It's fine to run with no BOV...

The Z31 300ZX had no BOV, and those factory turbos are known to last over 100,000 miles...

Will it extend the life of your turbo, and give better boost response between shifts...YES.

Is it an absolute necessity...NO.

Can you run your car for a while (start it to check for leaks, etc...drive it, whatever...)...YES.

I ran my car for a month without a BOV, and the only issue I ran into was the high pressure when you shift tend to pop off intercooler piping unless they're REALLY tight.

- Brian

[S14DRFTER]

Thanks for the responses, I appreciate everyone's input. Thanks to Ghst 01
I have the emanage wires sorted out and will finish that today. I should be able to start her up today or tomorrow, I will keep everyone posted on the results. I have also documented everything on the install and in very anal detail. So if anyone needs any info on the turbo install, FMIC install, Emanage install, or anything else associated with the kit let me know and I will email you what I have. I would post it here but there are a lot of pictures, so unless someone can host it I will send them to those that request it.

1995 240sxse (140K) Blk/Blk
-Greddy Turbo Kit
-Greddy FMIC
-Tein Tension Rods
-Blitz BOV (waiting to install)
-Blitz DTT (waiting to install)
-300zx Front Calipers / Rotors crossed-slotted
-300zx Fuel Filter
-Takata Harness
-Nismo Power Brace
-Denso Iridium Plugs IR20
-Nismo Shift Knob
-Walbro Fuel Pump

[Ghst 01]

damn that was fast I ordered my FMIC from www.city-speed.com yesterday moring and it was delivered today.... any one got the instructions.... greddy's site doesnt have them up

[stil bil]

Way to go man, glad to hear some guys out there still have faith in the good ol' KA. hurry up and get the thing back so we can have some numbers!




i am going to make my own kit, but use the greddy kit as my guide!!

you guys have any idea what kinda power a 57 trim t3/t04 is capable of?