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12-12-2001, 08:33 PM
ya today i tried racein my friend hes got some v8 5.0 town car. well i brougt 1st gear to 7400 rpms lol not good for the motor but wtf. needless to say i got smoked. anyway no real point to this post just thought i would vent a little.

12-12-2001, 08:35 PM
revving to 7400 would slow u down... and ....... do u have an ecu? how were u able to rev so high?

my240likenoother
12-12-2001, 08:37 PM
dont even bother with the v8 a waste of time for him and you

12-12-2001, 08:45 PM
lol ya i know i had not a chance in #### is was just for the fuck of it. i felt bad for my car fter wards...i mean revin it so hard.

12-12-2001, 08:50 PM
how were u able to rev so high?

jay
12-12-2001, 08:52 PM
It is possible to take the rev limiter off. If memory serves, it is somewhere around the speed sensor on the tranny...

(Edited by jay at 8:52 pm on Dec. 12, 2001)

LanceS13
12-12-2001, 08:55 PM
nismo's right...revving to 7400 hurts (both acceleration and your engine) alot more than it helps.  Power peaks around 5600 and really starts to drop off around 5800-6000.  After that, shift...ther's no point to push it any further.

sykikchimp
12-12-2001, 08:59 PM
I had a 90 240 and I the only mod I ever did was a SRI and I don't think it had a speed limiter.  I've never been brave enough to try and bounce it off the rev limiter.

KoukiS14
12-12-2001, 09:04 PM
You lost to a town car?  How?  ####. .
240 can beat V8 thunderbird. . that's one of the funniest cars to race lol. . most domestic V8s are even slower. .

Example. . we inherited a 96 Caprice. . good working order. . but it's f-ing SLOW!!! Yeah. . it IS heavy. . it IS big. . but so is a Q45... It'd be cool if we (U.S.) could figure out how to work EFFICIENCY and QUALITY into the shit we make.  .#### .. hehe  not like I WANNA hate the product of my own country....  ugh

But. . anyway. . next time u see a punk in a V8 T-bird. . play with him. . it's very fun. =)  Right Chris?!

-Rob

samiam
12-12-2001, 09:06 PM
That's weird. I raced my friend in his 5.7 Caddy, spanked him. And a gs400, more spanking. You ask, why are you wasting time on those cars, gotta test and tune with someone......why not?<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>

True, about some of that. Domestics are kinda weird, but a 95-97 s.s. Impala...drooooool. Those will actually take a n/a 240 anyday. I love my nissan, but I always had/have a passion for certain domestics.


(Edited by samiam at 9<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>9 pm on Dec. 12, 2001)


(Edited by samiam at 9:10 pm on Dec. 12, 2001)

12-12-2001, 10:50 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from samiam on 11<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>6 pm on Dec. 12, 2001
That's weird. I raced my friend in his 5.7 Caddy, spanked him. And a gs400, more spanking. You ask, why are you wasting time on those cars, gotta test and tune with someone......why not?<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>

True, about some of that. Domestics are kinda weird, but a 95-97 s.s. Impala...drooooool. Those will actually take a n/a 240 anyday. I love my nissan, but I always had/have a passion for certain domestics.


(Edited by samiam at 9<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>9 pm on Dec. 12, 2001)


(Edited by samiam at 9:10 pm on Dec. 12, 2001)
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um a GS400 runs 0-60 in 5.6 how'd u spank him? u must have turbo....... otherwise he wasn't racing. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

Zenki Two40
12-13-2001, 06:21 AM
2 many ppl rely on 0-60 or 1/4 mile times to determine a race. u think that 1-2 seconds is really gonna matter if the other person can drive better. always down to drivers. unless ur on the track w/ a bunch of pro's, but on the street, it's always down to the drivers in my opinion.

HondaOwner
12-13-2001, 07:30 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from samiam on 9<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>6 pm on Dec. 12, 2001
but a 95-97 s.s. Impala...drooooool
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I agree! droool.

12-13-2001, 09:16 PM
I agree with the Impalla SS. . .

http://www.calcustoms.com/image/new-images/1996_impala_lg.jpg

http://www.fantasycars.com/sedans/misc/impala1.jpg

. . .LT1 engine, only downside is Opti-(S)park

(Edited by fastnissan at 9:20 pm on Dec. 13, 2001)

onebadm5
12-13-2001, 09:26 PM
impala ss was built from 1994 to 1996.

onebadm5
12-13-2001, 09:32 PM
CHEVROLET LT5 IMPALA SS: TIM ALLEN’S WAY OF SAYING ‘GET ME TO THE SHOW ON TIME’
LAS VEGAS -- Chevrolet isn’t normally in the “made-to-order” custom automobile business. But for the right opportunity, exceptions can be made. Several months ago television star Tim Allen approached Chevy with a fervent desire to create the Impala SS of his dreams. Chevrolet Specialty Vehicles Manager Jon Moss acknowledged that Allen’s vision had promise. And, it might serve as the perfect send-off for Chevy’s renowned SS in its final months of production. After due consideration, Moss agreed to help Allen build this interesting variation on the SS theme.

Allen dreamed of a ride to special events in a carriage distinctively different from the customary stretched limousine. He was thinking of something very black and menacingly fast but also supremely comfortable for two formally-attired, chauffeur-driven luminaries. He was imagining a custom-built, power-packed Impala SS, exactly the kind of machine his macho character Tim Taylor might create in his garage on Home Improvement.

Allen already owned and enjoyed a 1995 Impala SS. (That car’s tune-up is another story.) What he longed for was a DOHC 32-valve Corvette ZR1 V8 under the hood of a ‘96 edition.

That transplant sounds simple, but it turned out to be a sizable undertaking.

The LT5 is a rather bulky powerhouse that didn’t exactly drop into the space left by the original engine. Adapting it to an automatic transmission was another challenge because this engine was engineered solely for use with a manual transmission in the Corvette ZR1. The number of systems to be created rapidly grew to arm’s length: engine mounts, wiring, cooling, air induction, exhaust, power steering and driveline. The frame’s front crossmember had to be radically modified to provide the necessary clearance for the LT5’s nine-quart oil pan. The windshield wiper motor, ABS hardware, heater core and AC evaporator all required some fiddling.

Soon this project grew beyond the scope of an engine swap into a full-blown engineering program. Instead of using a salvage-yard engine, a new LT5 was acquired from GM’s Service Parts Operation and extensively modified for better-than-stock performance. An aftermarket crankshaft raised the stroke to 3.82 inches, while the cylinders were bored to 4.00 inches and new pistons boosted the compression ratio to 12.2:1. Those changes resulted in a new piston displacement of 385 cubic inches or 6.3 liters versus the standard LT5’s 350 cubic inches or 5.7 liters. Ported intake and exhaust passages in the otherwise stock 32-valve cylinder heads improved flow characteristics. Custom-made stainless-steel tubular headers routed exhaust to a pair of LT1 Camaro catalytic converters. The use of a specially calibrated PROM module in a Corvette engine control computer helped manage all of the LT5’s original functions including emissions controls. During dynamometer tests, Tim Allen’s highly tuned prime ride delivered a peak 515 net horsepower at 5500 rpm and well over 495 lb-ft of torque from 3250 to 5750 rpm.

To transport Allen to “openings” and the like without fail, various driveline upgrades were deemed necessary. The Impala’s 4L60-E automatic transmission was modified by Hydra-matic for high-rpm longevity and fitted with a 2000 rpm stall speed torque converter. A custom four-inch aluminum driveshaft was fortified with heavy-duty universal joints. A new 4.10:1 ratio limited-slip differential was specified to help provide the desired ‘off the line’ acceleration. A quicker steering-gear ratio should aid maneuverability through crowds of paparazzi.

Once the powertrain engineering was in hand, Allen focused on aesthetic details to achieve just the right look for his dream ride: Lower-profile BF Goodrich radials ride on wider Enkei alloy wheels; vent holes drilled through the disc brake rotors and aftermarket brake pads improve this hot Impala’s stopping performance; and a tasteful crossed-flag LT5 SS emblem on each front fender affirms the source of the commotion under the hood. To acknowledge credit where it’s due, Chevy’s bowtie badge floats on a blacked-out grille, while a new &quot;Binford 6100&quot; logo has been attached to the decklid. (Binford is the hypothetical tool manufacturer that sponsors Allen’s Tool Time TV show on Home Improvement. Every hand tool, drill press and band saw featured on the show is supposedly from that firm’s 6100 product line.)

Inside, seating accommodations were altered to maximize comfort for four passengers. Front-bucket side bolsters were enlarged for additional lateral support, and fold-down trays have been added to each front-seat backrest.

The center console is configured for auxiliary power jacks and the requisite cellular telephone. Seats and door panels are upholstered with supple leather trim and finished with wood- and carbon-fiber-motif accents. Bose Corporation created a one-of-a-kind entertainment system for Tim Allen’s enjoyment by using the same amplifier and speaker technology fitted to $30-million Gulfstream V business jets. Engineers first mapped the car’s passenger-cell acoustics and then established speaker locations, equalization curves and the sound system’s frequency response. In total, 10 speakers are placed in the doors, the A-pillars, the center console and on the rear package shelf. The 10 distinct channels of amplification and equalization provide 117 decibel listening levels with no audible distortion. Source material is provided by a Rockford Fosgate head unit working in conjunction with a trunk-mounted six-disc CD changer.

Opening night may never be the same after this black sheep rolls forth with dual pipes and 10 speakers serenading the crowd.

Specifications for Tim Allen's Impala LT5 SS

Engine
Type......DOHC 32-valve LT5 V8
Bore x stroke......4.00 in. x 3.82 in.
Displacement.........385 cu. in. (6.3 liters)
Compression ratio......12.2:1
Horsepower (SAE net).......515 @ 5500 rpm
Torque, lb-ft (SAE net).......495 @ 4250 rpm
Pistons.....J-E
Piston rings....Speed Pro
Connecting rods.....Oliver
Crankshaft.....Doug Rippie Motorsports
Air Cleaner and induction tube....Wheel to Wheel


Exhaust system
Stainless-steel headers and pipes.....Wheel to Wheel
Mufflers........Exhaust Tech
Resonators.....Walker


Driveline
Transmission.......modified Hydra-matic 4L60-E
Driveshaft......Dyno-Tech 4.0-inch aluminum with Dana-Spicer universal joints
Limited-slip differential......Auburn Gear Company
Final drive ratio.........4.10:1


Chassis
Power steering ratio............12:1
Wheels...........Enkei 17 x 9.0-inch aluminum
Tires......B F Goodrich 275/40ZR-17
Front springs....stock trimmed by 3/4 coil
Rear springs.....Eibach variable rate
Brake rotors.....cross-drilled
Brake pads......Raybestos Super Stop


Tim Allen w/ Impala SS
http://207.37.252.232/chevy/images/allenhtr.gif

&quot;Binford&quot; Hotrod Impala
http://207.37.252.232/chevy/images/binfordr.gif

impala SS
http://207.37.252.232/chevy/images/tallensc.gif



(Edited by onebadm5 at 8:34 pm on Dec. 13, 2001)

240sxspeedracer1
12-13-2001, 09:45 PM
Im not sure about town cars in other cities, but in NY they are almost exclusively used by taxi drivers.
We have the yellow ford taxi's and the privately owned cab drivers which have the town cars.
I see town cars all over the place and they sicken me. I guess it's because of the drivers. You know how taxi drivers are. Very aggresive, and dont give a #### about other people. Well, the point is, you better race that town car again, and think about how pathetic they really are, cause there is not one town car that can beat me in anything. They always trying to go mad fast and race me when they see that I rev next to them at a red light, i burn those fags easily.. Try again and remember that u r representing zilvia.net and that is something bigger than anyone of us can comprehend!


(Edited by 240sxspeedracer1 at 1:37 am on Dec. 14, 2001)

misnomer
12-13-2001, 10:31 PM
#### speedracer, you needa get out more <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

Anyhow, I've never raced a caddy or town car, don't plan on it. So, I really have nothing to add here. . . G'day :-)

KoukiS14
12-14-2001, 12:40 AM
Ugh I hate Impalas. . might have been cool in the 60s, but now it's just an oversized, under powered Cavalier. &nbsp;
Sure. . the engine is considered to be good, Chevy's best... but the car is slowwwwwww. . don't kid yourself.

BTW. . how you beat a GS400? &nbsp;There's no way short of KA-T or SR swap...

-Rob

12-14-2001, 09:11 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from KoukiS14 on 9<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>4 pm on Dec. 12, 2001
You lost to a town car? How? ####. .
240 can beat V8 thunderbird. . that's one of the funniest cars to race lol. . most domestic V8s are even slower. .
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My friend had a 97 4.8l T-bird, auto..and it ran a 15.7 or 15.8 stock....

rabbit23
12-14-2001, 11:51 AM
that impalla is huge!!! it doesn't have a liscence plate, it has a zipcode. of course if i wanted to haul 20 of my closest friends around all the time i'd consider it. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

konkman
12-14-2001, 12:22 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from krunko on 9:11 am on Dec. 14, 2001
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You lost to a town car? How? ####. .
240 can beat V8 thunderbird. . that's one of the funniest cars to race lol. . most domestic V8s are even slower. .
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My friend had a 97 4.8l T-bird, auto..and it ran a 15.7 or 15.8 stock....


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I girl I used to hook up with's dad had a V8 Thunderbird. &nbsp;It smoked me, not to mention a new 3.2 TL S-type. &nbsp;

NoTuchn
12-14-2001, 01:57 PM
i have to agree with Zenki, all (very high majority) street races come down to the driver... and manual/auto trannys.

IceTekGuy
12-14-2001, 05:07 PM
my friend was pushin about 15-16 psi, in a 90' Talon TSI and got WHOOOOPED on, by an IMPALA and he never tried again... funny how it works sometimes