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S13Grl
12-13-2001, 07:30 PM
Please stop arguing and bickering in open topics. They will be locked and possibly deleted. We all used to get along and talk about cars, and occasionally joke around. I don't realize what's going on these days.

I've deleted a few topics already, locked more. I don't think we should have to go through that.

Irena

transient
12-13-2001, 08:26 PM
I agree, things have been getting out of hand lately. Everyone, if you are just going to make fun of someone, or piss them off, then don't post. It's as simple as that.

96SEChick
12-14-2001, 06:46 AM
I also don't agree with people posting about how many posts they have.  There are so many people here with good information, and many of the threads are very informative and interesting, then you get somebody who says in the middle of the thread "wow!  Look at how many posts I have!"  I don't even see that kind of stuff on Fresh Alloy.  I don't know what's been going on for everybody in the past month, but this kind of stuff never used to happen--arguments, insults, and post wars.  I like all of you very much--you've all helped me tremendously with my car, but some people do need to grow up and realize that we're responsible enough to own cars--we don't need to have junior high fights.

Mark and Moderators--you all are doing a GREAT job keeping this forum clean and organized.  Thank you.

240sxspeedracer1
12-14-2001, 09:45 AM
I agree with what all of you said but..............
I have one gripe
Ever since I got my 240 and found out about zilvia.net
this is probably the most important place place for me to visit.  I don't go to chats anymore because this IS CHAT.
I don't think we have to talk about cars every single second.  This is about fun and so what if a few people argue, that is life, people argue all the time, no need to have such a boring place.  Listen, if I wanted to learn about instalation and such, I would go to the tech forum.  This is the chat forum, it doesnt say that you have to just talk about cars.  I mean, I spend at least 2-3 hours everytime I coem here. But if all we do is just talk about sr20det swaps and headlights and shit, I'd be the first to find a better place.  I love this place but come on, why does it have to be censored to the point where we are afraid to speek freely?  
So what if there is some kind of racial issue, some of us live in parts of the US or the globe where there is only white people, so maybe they need to learn.
point is, people need freedom of speech, no need to delete anythign or everything that has a lil questionable material in it.

Zenki Two40
12-14-2001, 09:51 AM
why'd someone delete my post from here? i do agree that the forum has had some stupid problems that r a waste of time to read, but all i said is basically sh*t happens so it's nothing to get mad about. hopefully this problem will be over w/ once chat is up n running on here so everybody doesn't have to see every topic getting off topic all the time.

transient
12-14-2001, 10:03 AM
That's not the point. Every forum has it's bickering, as did zilvia even in the beginning. The thing is, it's just been getting out of hand lately. Some downright shitty things have been said; types of things just don't belong here.

I don't think that this forum is badly censored. The only threads that have been locked or deleted were getting out of hand. When the bickering gets personal, and people get seriously offended, the thread is closed. If you wish to continue fighting that badly then do it over AIM or ICQ.

If you really have to be afraid that you're crossing the line all the time, then maybe censorship on this forum isn't your biggest concern.

yenpit
12-14-2001, 10:34 AM
I agree with s13grl, 96sechick, etc
I also see the need for some of you to use this as a general chat board.....good people usually leads to good friendships that CAN extend beyond the 240!

How about this idea......Mark, can you set up a "general chat" section??? If it doesnt pertain to the 240 or a related car (like the Skyline, which I greatly enjoy reading posts about!) then post in "general". Those of you that dont like the "chat".....dont go to "general". I sometimes dont like the "chat", but I sift it out and move on. Remember.....this is JUST a suggestion, not something to bicker about. Moderators?

dave2u
12-14-2001, 10:44 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from yenpit on 10:34 am on Dec. 14, 2001
I agree with s13grl, 96sechick, etc
I also see the need for some of you to use this as a general chat board.....good people usually leads to good friendships that CAN extend beyond the 240!

How about this idea......Mark, can you set up a &quot;general chat&quot; section??? If it doesnt pertain to the 240 or a related car (like the Skyline, which I greatly enjoy reading posts about!) then post in &quot;general&quot;. Those of you that dont like the &quot;chat&quot;.....dont go to &quot;general&quot;. I sometimes dont like the &quot;chat&quot;, but I sift it out and move on. Remember.....this is JUST a suggestion, not something to bicker about. Moderators?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

HOW DARE YOU <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'>
GGGET HIM EVERYONE!!!
(50 zilvia members all chase and jump on Yenpit)
and you can hear a feeble Yenpit squeak coming from the bottom of the pile -- &quot;ok leave it the way it is then &quot; (end of squeak) <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

transient
12-14-2001, 10:55 AM
hehe, dave, you're a riot.

I think it would be good to have a lounge so to speak, but I also feel that a lot of you are missing the point. Sure chatting is great, but even there, it still should get to the point where there are harmful personal insults, etc. Also, I don't think that we're concerned so much with just a solitary incident, as much as the entire mentality of the board seems to be changing a bit, which is understandable due to the growing size of it. If you get 650 people together, you're going to have some arguements. That's ok, as long as it doesn't get to the point where everyone is just pissed off at each othre all the time. I've seen a few posts from people who were just trolling for flames though. That is the type of thing that shouldn't be on the board.

Zenki Two40
12-14-2001, 11:04 AM
agreed. i've actually decided not to post so much now n ignore a lot of it though.

yenpit
12-14-2001, 11:13 AM
dave......stop that!! stop that i say!!!! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> $#@&amp;^#$%

transient
12-14-2001, 11:19 AM
That's the way to deal with it. There are always gonna b dicks that want to piss people off, but if you just ignore them, the problem will solve itself.

240sxspeedracer1
12-14-2001, 03:29 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from transient on 1:19 pm on Dec. 14, 2001
That's the way to deal with it. There are always gonna b dicks that want to piss people off, but if you just ignore them, the problem will solve itself.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

ok, thats one way, and frankly thats the way it should be. &nbsp;Does all the moderators wanna know why the topic &quot;Mexicans&quot; came from? &nbsp;It stemmed from the other topic that closed entitled &quot;mexicans using nike checks&quot;.
If that one never got closed then maybe that whole problem would have been resolved. &nbsp;I dont think any of us would have any hard feelings if we just finished it ourselves, we dont need to be babyed so I say, let it run until there are no more reponses, and when it is no longer in the main page, then it can get closed cause then it would be old. &nbsp;I mean, if it wasnt for &quot;mexicans&quot; lasting so long, maybe most of the fights wouldnt have gotten resolved, and why am I calling it fights? &nbsp;It was a lil joshing around. &nbsp;Nobody is really serious about anything, we are just serious about the fact that racism and racial slurs are not accepted and some of us were trying to explain to others that mexicans using nike checks is not a racial comment while others say it was a racial comment. &nbsp;What is so big about that? &nbsp;####, that is such a petty thing that we can resolve ourselves, ####, if it ws something bigger like saying &quot;jap&quot; or &nbsp;somethign like that then it would be a prob but come on,
&quot;I have a dream, that we all be free, and say what the #### we want to say to an extent(of course)&quot;
--Martin Ruther King Jr.

ca18guy
12-14-2001, 03:44 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from 240sxspeedracer1 on 3:29 pm on Dec. 14, 2001
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from transient on 1:19 pm on Dec. 14, 2001
That's the way to deal with it. There are always gonna b dicks that want to piss people off, but if you just ignore them, the problem will solve itself.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

ok, thats one way, and frankly thats the way it should be. Does all the moderators wanna know why the topic &quot;Mexicans&quot; came from? It stemmed from the other topic that closed entitled &quot;mexicans using nike checks&quot;.
If that one never got closed then maybe that whole problem would have been resolved. I dont think any of us would have any hard feelings if we just finished it ourselves, we dont need to be babyed so I say, let it run until there are no more reponses, and when it is no longer in the main page, then it can get closed cause then it would be old. I mean, if it wasnt for &quot;mexicans&quot; lasting so long, maybe most of the fights wouldnt have gotten resolved, and why am I calling it fights? It was a lil joshing around. Nobody is really serious about anything, we are just serious about the fact that racism and racial slurs are not accepted and some of us were trying to explain to others that mexicans using nike checks is not a racial comment while others say it was a racial comment. What is so big about that? ####, that is such a petty thing that we can resolve ourselves, ####, if it ws something bigger like saying &quot;jap&quot; or somethign like that then it would be a prob but come on,
&quot;I have a dream, that we all be free, and say what the #### we want to say to an extent(of course)&quot;
--Martin Ruther King Jr.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

Thats why i left the &quot;nike&quot; post open. I did'nt want it closed cause I think you guys can solve your own problems. I even explained why yet it got closed by another mod <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('> I also see acouple post's that got out right deleted that I don't see why? I said it before i'll say it again, you guy's are grown up's you don't need us telling you right from wrong.... but if it just get's silly then it's getting closed.

IceTekGuy
12-14-2001, 04:59 PM
hmmmmmmhhhh... isnt this a lil hipocritical?
you arguing about posts that have be shut down because of arguing....

i think... that we should all &lt;h3&gt;STOP&lt;/h3&gt;
and think about Christmas and any other holidays that people here celebrate...
i know the last post wast shut down cause of what i said, which turned into a BIG ASS argument without me participating further...
&lt;h3&gt; I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH ANYONE (except for Dragon)&lt;/h3&gt;

thats all i have to say...............

Zenki Two40
12-14-2001, 10:27 PM
i just hate when posts get delted or threads r closed cuz somebody doesn't like one thing about it. like ca18guy said, nobody's little kids on here so just let it be, if u can c where a thread is going u don't have to read it (i know i skip a lot of stuff), but let them resolve their problems instead of closing it n not solivng a #### thing. remember freedom of speech..

S13Grl
12-14-2001, 10:32 PM
Freedom of speech doesn't have to be hurting someone's feelings and pissing people off.

DragonReborn214
12-14-2001, 10:34 PM
Hey Icetek, Fuck you! Hahahah.

Now they will delete the &quot;Deleted Topics&quot; section. Hahhaha.

S13Grl
12-14-2001, 10:40 PM
At this point, I don't really give a shit. Icetekguy likes to be a smartass and invites arguments anyway, so... knock yourselves out, you two.

DragonReborn214
12-14-2001, 10:44 PM
Knock em out tha box for me Irena

DragonReborn214
12-14-2001, 10:48 PM
http://www.shockcomics.com/swgangstarap/

Zenki Two40
12-14-2001, 10:56 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from S13Grl on 12:32 am on Dec. 15, 2001
Freedom of speech doesn't have to be hurting someone's feelings and pissing people off.
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agreed cuz it shouldn't have to, but sometimes it does. just like if somebody ever talked shit to ur face in person, u'd obviously wanna give 'em a piece of ur mind n not be restricted like a little kid u know? not saying that closing some topics is wrong cuz some of them r just out of line, but some stuff should just be left alone.

S13Grl
12-14-2001, 10:59 PM
I remember West once locked this topic in which this one guy started talking crap. It felt like a slap in the face, and I was happy it was closed, because it was only getting worse.

Drifting Ricer
12-14-2001, 11:03 PM
Wow what's that all about S13 girl. &nbsp;Dragon and Ice why you hate each other?

Zenki Two40
12-14-2001, 11:04 PM
cool. i'll stop being an idiot and talking now. ya'll r the mods n should know whether or not a topic should be closed n i'll just deal w/ it, i'm not mad at all over this or nething by the way :biggrin:

S13Grl
12-14-2001, 11:09 PM
I honestly don't know if I care or not. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> But thanks for responding.

I just wish we could voice our opinions without being assholes to others, I wish we could get that accomplished.

<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

IceTekGuy, no bad feelings, just gathering up facts from your old posts. You're still a nice guy.

12-14-2001, 11:16 PM
*sings in the end it doesnt even matter * ok yah so lets not fight and keep it moderately mature? i mean we're all old enough to kno how to conduct ourselves in a mature manure so lets show it.

Zenki Two40
12-14-2001, 11:26 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from nismos14 on 1:16 am on Dec. 15, 2001
*sings in the end it doesnt even matter * ok yah so lets not fight and keep it moderately mature? i mean we're all old enough to kno how to conduct ourselves in a mature manure so lets show it.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

DORK...j/k <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

Drifting Ricer
12-14-2001, 11:28 PM
Zenki you're the dork.... J/k.

Zenki Two40
12-14-2001, 11:36 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from Drifting Ricer on 1:28 am on Dec. 15, 2001
Zenki you're the dork.... J/k.

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can't argue w/ that, i'm the biggest fuckin' loser/dork/idiot i know.

12-14-2001, 11:50 PM
and im the biggest fucking loser dork and moron i kno <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>

Drifting Ricer
12-14-2001, 11:50 PM
Wait you're BlankFlip. No wander he die off the board. Hey yo I didn't mean it for you to take it to the head dork. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>... J/K.

Zenki Two40
12-15-2001, 12:21 AM
haha, it's cool. i don't think many ppl know that i was BlankFlip before, maybe i should've just kept that name. i don't know, i'm an idiot.

dave2u
12-15-2001, 08:51 AM
http://gifs.net/animate/eyeflash.gif

HA HA! I`ve done it...i`ve been trying for ages to poke a hole in the board so i can see what you all are doin`.
HA HA.. there`s S13grl..PHWWWWAAARRRR!!
HA HA.. there`s Ca18Guy..eh! stop looking at that girls arse ya pervert.. HA HA he fell off his chair!
HA HA..there`s icetekguy..he`s scribbling decal ideas on a piece of paper then scrunching them up and launching them at the bin and going a funny purple colour.
HA HA there`s Drifting Ricer...tut! put your clothes back on mate...before someone comes in and catches ya.
HA HA there`s nismoS14...ooer...he`s smeared in oil and lying on top of a ..er..looks like a blow up doll..OOPS.. :shocked: sorry mate didnt know you were having a bit of a moment.
HA HA there`s Zenki..trying a dress and stilleto`s on and putting thick red lipstick on (rather poorly i might add)
HA HA this is great! Just wait till the rest of those girls get online
Dave runs away but cant find the door
http://gifs.net/animate/runroom.gif

Zenki Two40
12-15-2001, 08:59 AM
how'd u know! (haha, i think i got the worst, red lipstick! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>)