FF Silvia speculation - What is nissan thinking?!?

[Doriftomodachi]

I hope it won't come to be. Today I was at Mitsuwa Market in Costa Mesa and was browsing through the car magazines. One of them had a preview of the next silvia. It looked like a murano in front and there were pictures of the qr25de, a vq23de ?!? and get this, a picture of a ff tranny. The new silvia's drivetrain configuration was FF :wtf: :ugh: I really hope that nissan executives snap out of it SOON I'll scan pics and post them soon.

[silviaparts.com]

if this is true, then it's really bad news. I would hate to see a FF Silvia.

[NinjaGaiden]

o man! taht will be a boot in the balls for all of us....ouch :bite:

[Yoshi]

it's been talked about for a while now.
There WILL be another "silvia" or comperable type car.
It will NOT be an S chassis.
It WILL be FF. :(

My only hope is that they call it something else besides the silvia, why ruin everything the name has always signified?

[TachyonS14]

If it's not FR, then It's not a Silvia.

[ledzeppelin240]

Terrible, talk about jumping on the FF band wagon...The complete opposite of what Silvia/240SX has ever stood for...

[Angelus]

WTF??? A FF Silvia?? Oh my god, nooooooooooo!!!!

[twitchy]

heh...looks like well have to all get 350Z's

[fliprayzin240sx]

heh...looks like well have to all get 350Z's
maybe thats what NISSAN got in mind...if it is...THEM BASTARDS!!!

[cdlong]

heh...looks like well have to all get 350Z's

i would have said RX-8s. if you think about it, it make sense, nissan only has one two door, the 350z, they need something to compete with the celica, civic coupe, and focus hatch. i'll still never buy one.

[duey]

they need something to compete with the celica, civic coupe, and focus hatch.

isn't that what the sentra spec v is made for?

[PantherSpeed04vp]

They should keep the Silvia FR and bring back the 2 Door SE-R if they wanna compete witht he Celica, Focus, etc... That would give nissan the advantage over the other companies by offering 2 FR cars and something to Compete with the Celicas and Foci

[Dutchmalmiss]

this is what they did to the corolla after 1987....... :wtc:

[twitchy]

no one wants rear wheel drive anymore in a cheap car. Otherwise theyd be selling the 240 still.

Ill keep mine even though its being a bitch.

[exitspeed]

that would completely SUCK! It is kinda suprising to here that though. I mean there even using more FR in sport sedans now becasue of the power there getting out of'em. The worst part of the New TL is that it's FF, and can't lay down the power as well.

[proj240sx]

i havent seen anything in the nissan usa newsletter thing we get at the dealership. if the rumors are true im going to cry and deface every single one of them that shows up here. haha. lets just all hope they dont tarnish the name of silvia like most of these new cars.

[silviaparts.com]

So I guess they won't call it the S16? Because it's not a S chassis.

[Maeda]

The sports car is dead(light & rwd). Everyone hold on to what you got.

[WheelSpin18]

Actually original sports cars were and are descirbed as rwd roadsters but i'll play along :)

The term sports car and street legal race car are a little overused.

[russian]

hmmm cant wait to get it and swap b18 vtec in it :naughtyd:

[brianglawson]

They should keep the Silvia FR and bring back the 2 Door SE-R if they wanna compete witht he Celica, Focus, etc... That would give nissan the advantage over the other companies by offering 2 FR cars and something to Compete with the Celicas and Foci

agreed on making a 2 door ser and keeping the 240 rwd, but the ser wouldnt compete with celicas because there gonna quit making them:)

[Ricer240sx]

is there somewhere we can all go to write them and tell them that it is a BAD idea!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! the market for RWD is starting to rise too. i have been hearing that more and more cars will be going rwd and eventualy we will be going back to it!!! i will cry if its FF though :( they should have 2 versions, bring back the S-Chasis for the sporty model lol

[typhoonslippery]

its all about what the masses will buy and what will make Nissan money over the long run ... and following the current car market trends ....it will prolly be FF

[SimpleS14]

Didn't someone at NISSAN want to make the 240SX FWD...like back when the S14 rolled into the market?

Anywho...it would make perfect sense for NISSAN to come out with a FF 2-dr (or 5-dr) hatch (or fastback). I highly doubt they will call this car "Silvia" and it will not carry an 'S' on its chassis code. If my theory is correct....this will be a "new" variant of the upcoming (redesigned) NISSAN Sentra....that will have some underpinnings and influence from Renault(sp?). When it comes to "inexpensive" , "compact" and "sporty" to describe a car....its going to be FWD. I can see this car competing with the Scion tC, Civic Si, Ford Focus, and Hyundai Tiburon(sp?). The RSX will probably get the axe and the Eclipse is poo. :down:

Basically...NISSAN is coming out with something...but its not going to be called "240S" or "Silvia".....more like "Sentra SE-R Spec V". ;)

[HyperTek]

I really dont like Nissan after the 90's as far as car line up... Thats why they had problems financially, releasing too many freaking sports cars that all are in teh same market..

THis new car you guys are talking about, think its being designed by Nissan North America??

[HyperTek]

oh and yah, I hate those freaking sentras... i mean its a high car, its not stream line, and how many times have I been revved at by kids in spec-vs thinking they got a skyline or something.

[DrifutoS14]

hrm that makes no sense coming back with a FF silvia when the drift scene is getting bigger and bigger in america, you would think nissan would catch on and build a car for our crowd that isnt 35gs to begin with

[SimpleS14]

when the drift scene is getting bigger and bigger in america, you would think nissan would catch on and build a car for our crowd that isnt 35gs to begin with


how many of us would actually buy this car?

[Ghettokracker71]

I hope they don't build a FWD with the Silvia badge,I don't think nissan is THAt stupid....At least I hope not! It seems that 2 doors are less and less wanted as is RWD....who knows?

[Doriftomodachi]

it's been talked about for a while now.
There WILL be another "silvia" or comperable type car.
It will NOT be an S chassis.
It WILL be FF. :(

My only hope is that they call it something else besides the silvia, why ruin everything the name has always signified?

Well I wasn't aware that it was being talked about so that's whay I posted it. Plus I thought other people here would like to know but thanks for your input anyway.

[240eggsx]

FF Silvia would not suprise me in the least... Look how they gayed up the Skyline =[

[SimpleS14]

FF Silvia would not suprise me in the lease... Look how they gayed up the Skyline =[

*sigh* :rolleyes:

[Ghettokracker71]

FF Silvia would not suprise me in the least... Look how they gayed up the Skyline =[
:bash: ........good point......:rl:....damned renault taking over....

EDIT:if they build that fucker I have half a mind to sell my S13

[ZenkiSE]

First they DE-Ball the Skyline (G35) now they want to make a FF silvia?!?!?...you know that if they make it they WILL call it a Silvia and have Silvia badging on it.

[s0ldats]

First they DE-Ball the Skyline (G35) now they want to make a FF silvia?!?!?...you know that if they make it they WILL call it a Silvia and have Silvia badging on it.



do you know anything? the v35 IS NOT a gtr. what was so special about the regular r series skylines? just stop crying.

[pruto]

do you know anything? the v35 IS NOT a gtr. what was so special about the regular r series skylines? just stop crying.

word

skyline = RWD sedan and coupe. drives like a boat. comfy. fast enough to pass on the freeway. good for bling bling VIP style. G35 makes a perfect skyline.

do people not understand? only a very SMALL percentage of "skylines" were bad ass RB26DETT ATESSA AWD. Hence the GTR badge.

i agree that nissan should make a 2 door FF coupe to replace the sentra. The SE-R should have been 2 door. They need a 2 door FF sportster to compete in the youth market. The SE-R just looks too family car to be too appealing. A FR coupe would be more expesnive to produce for nissan and not as profitable.

However, a FF souldn't be badge as a silvia. BUT nissan has already made that mistake once with the 200SX. definately not a s-chasis car and badged as one. Toyota has done this before too. Both Celica and Corolla were FRs names that now belong on FF cars. Whatever, i don't think nissan really worries about the drift market, being that the 350z is part of the next gen of drift cars. But i bet they were kicking themselves for not bringing the s15 over. A lot of Japanese drift demos use s15s, very visable part of the drift culture. 3 out of top 4 in D1 US. And its not sold here. Nissan isn't making money off the great free advertisement. I call it kharma.

[PantherSpeed04vp]

Damn Toyota for making the Corolla FF :(, what years was the Celica FR?.

Pruto has a point, The sought after GT-R makes up only a small percentage of the actual skylines sold.
The skyline for the most part is a coupe or Sedan that is RWD. ( notice the GTS-t R34 = RWD and that there are R34 Sedans and what not)
The G35 coupe does make a perfect Skyline... its hot i want one :)
anyhow. I dont think the Fairlady and the Silvia fall into the same category right now. I think the silvia still competes with the Civic and what not just the fact that its FR differentiates them gives nissan something special to go with. the could use the FR set up as an advertising pull. and remake the sentra into a 2 door.

[DuffMan]

Damn Toyota for making the Corolla FF :(, what years was the Celica FR?.


I think 85 and earlier

[AKADriver]

Celica was FR until 1986. The chassis designation went from "A" (RWD Celica/Supra) to "T" (FWD Celica/Corona).

The Corolla should have gone FF years before it did ('83 sedans, '88 coupes). It makes a lot more sense for a compact car. I like the AE86 as much as anyone else, but it was outdated when new, another rehashed '60s Corolla chassis with new styling and engine. Competition like the Civic and Sunny were FF years earlier.

So how many people complaining actually would spend $25k on a new car? There's no debating that FR is coming back in performance cars - but not in econosports. Nissan is right where they need to be with the 350Z and the G35 and an FF coupe below them.

[cdlong]

in a year or so i might be willing to spend $25k on a new rear wheel drive car, but as of right now, there are none, except the new dodge magnum and the mustang (eww). i'll probably end up buying a used BMW in a few years. there are a bunch of good FF coupes on the market, but i'm sure nissan will join them.

[LigouriRd]

http://www.nissaninfiniticlub.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=56379
I posted this on NICO a week ago, yeah I know its an old article, but I only found it recently and I really haven't heard it discussed before. Anyway, the rumor is that the future 200SX is already in development. According to another artilcle I read Nissan wanted to redesign the Silvia to be FF back in 94 but found it too costly at the time and did an update on the S-series chassis (14) instead.
Yeah it would suck to have the next generation 200SX (what the new silvia is sposed to be called over here in the states) be FF but look at what manufacturers did to the Eclipse and the almost legendary Civic Si. De-balled daily driver that make their respective companies a shiz load of money. Tuners don't usually buy new cars, so the market just isn't there.

[Nismo240SX]

ahh, Nissan knows what they are doing. I love my 240, and it being RWD, but come-on people a FWD 2 door sports car wouldn't be that bad... i'd love to see a cheeper RWD sports car come out from nissan, but when you can get a new 305z for 25K... what more could you ask for? Maybe it won't be the Silvia, but i've seen some pictures and such as the s16, and it being with the rwd sr powerplant. Maybe Nissan will call it the Sunny, or the Stanza, or bring up a whole new name. Hopefully, whatever it is, hopefully it will come with a sr20de or maybe even a sr20ve. something worth while. all this is just my opinion.

[aznpoopy]

as long as its not called a silvia i don't have a problem with it. i don't really see the point though. it would be cheaper to modify the existing specV a bit to compete better in the FF sporty 20k car category. change those ugly butt/tails, make it a coupe and give it a little more hp and i think it would sell pretty decently. why bother designing a entirely new chassis that would compete with one of your own existing lines?

FR market is rising but it will never match FF and 4WD markets. if i just wanted a car to drive year round, go to the supermarket and commute to work; why the hell would i want RWD? superior handling and agility - but only if you know how to handle it. for your average stomp on the brake and swerve driver, rwd = death. i think dumping the silvia s-chassis and FR lay out is actually a very smart move for nissan. under 20k FR cars aren't profitable. would you buy a brand new car, pay full insurance on it and thrash it around? no... i think most import ppl would do as they have done... buy a used car and modify it. if the 240 line had progressed in the united states thru s14 and s15, you would have had the situation nissan had in late 90s... alot of brand new s-chassis cars sitting around in lots collecting dust.

on the other hand : silvia name recognition + low price (under 20k) + FF = ricer heaven.

[AKADriver]

The B15 Sentra chassis is way outdated and crude. They need something with an independent rear suspension if they're going to compete.

[matic 240sx]

blah..

"Nissan's John Yukawa confirmed that a new 200SX was on the way and that it would stay true to the philosophy of its predecessor. Don't be surprised, then, if the 200SX replacement is another compact, rear-drive, turbocharged coupe."

[exitspeed]

i've been so upset over this for days...sorry if that sounds :ghey:

[sykikchimp]

I love my 240sx..

If I had the oppertunity to get into a car with the same design philosophy, but it was new with a warranty.. damn right I'd jump at the oppertunity.

My 12 year old Nissan is a ton of fun to drive, but as I age, I need something with a bit more "status." Sure there are tons of cars that would fulfill that status, but none like the 240. I know. I've driven them. G35, 350z, m3, audi tt, VW's, bla, bla.. Many of them great cars in their own right, they just do not share the same personality as the 240. I will say the miata is probably the only car on the market right now that I woudl consider as a replacement for my 240sx. If only I was small enough to fit in it. :p

[Ghettokracker71]

the 200SX replacement is another compact, rear-drive, turbocharged fastback

.....hopefully:rawk:

although I hate to admit that the silvia badge on a cheap FF car would be a ricers dream come true....damnit,if nissan is reading this...choose real car enthusiest over ricers!

[Dipstick]

.....hopefully:rawk:

although I hate to admit that the silvia badge on a cheap FF car would be a ricers dream come true....damnit,if nissan is reading this...choose real car enthusiest over ricers!

How many of you real car enthusiasts actually buys new?? :hs:

[Ghettokracker71]

How many of you real car enthusiasts actually buys new?? :hs:
shhhh....your not supposed to give that away! I will someday,but at 17 I can't really afford it/don't feel like it...great forum name BTW

EDIT:I went from loving FR(chevelle) to hating it and wanting FF then back to FR,....now it doesn't really matter to me... :hsdance: but it is shitty take the nameplate from something great and stick it on something else thats just not the same...even if the something else is good,its still no a SILVIA ya know? (Makes me think of the chevy malibu,and chevy impala....come on! A 1970 Malibu ? I had a '71 awsome cars....and Impala? The TRUE Imp. SS's back in the day ? like 68 with a big block ? Or like a '96 SS with an LT-1? )

[Var]

no one wants rear wheel drive anymore in a cheap car. Otherwise theyd be selling the 240 still.

Ill keep mine even though its being a bitch.


are you kidding? do you know how many cars out there i would own IF they were FR? (all new models)

Celica GTS
RSX
Corolla
Prelude
NEON Srt-4
CIVIC!! that's right

all these are cheap FF cars that i would pay maybe 2 or 3 thousand more for if they were FR.

and i think we should all blame the drift scene for being popular lol. If nissan calls this car a Silvia there are gonna be a lotta wannabes that will buy it. Smart marketing on nissan's part if that's what they're thinking.

[Baka Sama]

in a year or so i might be willing to spend $25k on a new rear wheel drive car, but as of right now, there are none, except the new dodge magnum and the mustang (eww).
Can we say GTO...

http://www.invoicedealers.com/images/modelimages/large/L04460GTO][[[[]][[]]2152_2.jpg

[theicecreamdan]

There has been talk like this for Camaro's too, moving it to FF etc... If Chevrolet wants to create a car to "replace" the camaro/firebird line then I just hope they don't use the same name, same deal with Nissan after I have read this thread,

If you had a kid named Sean, and he moved away when he turned 18, would you name your next kid Sean to replace him?

[sykikchimp]

I thought the GTO is going to be a 30K dollar car?

[Ghettokracker71]

I thought the GTO is going to be a 30K dollar car?
$32G's according to the website....I damn sure wouldn't pay that for a GTO I'd rather go for FF in an SRT-4(and save the 10gs...woohoo!) or AWD in a base WRX

[SimpleS14]

Celica GTS
RSX
Prelude (fifth gen)



I would get those cars if they were FR...mainly because of the styling.

[Var]

$32G's according to the website....I damn sure wouldn't pay that for a GTO I'd rather go for FF in an SRT-4(and save the 10gs...woohoo!) or AWD in a base WRX


huh? LAN EVO all day for 32 grand over GTO.

[Red]

I think a Silvia FF would be a WAY better daily driver, Also every little bitch in the US would jump on a silvia right now if it was FF or FR and was releasd for 20-25k To many little punks could have there momy's buy one for them.

Face it if we want something thats still ok to drive we need to stick with our old ass 240sx's, 300zx's, Supra's, RX7's, 3000GT's, Stealth's... and all other cars that are cheep and hard to find or cost to much for a normal poor ass kid to buy.

Thats just what I think...

Also if the silvia is made in the US to many will sell and it will be just like the damn EVO and WRX banwagon, A bunch wana be pozers. cant turn a damn corner without seeing one

[Ghettokracker71]

I think a Silvia FF would be a WAY better daily driver, Also every little bitch in the US would jump on a silvia right now if it was FF or FR and was releasd for 20-25k To many little punks could have there momy's buy one for them.

Face it if we want something thats still ok to drive we need to stick with our old ass 240sx's, 300zx's, Supra's, RX7's, 3000GT's, Stealth's... and all other cars that are cheep and hard to find or cost to much for a normal poor ass kid to buy.

Thats just what I think...

Also if the silvia is made in the US to many will sell and it will be just like the damn EVO and WRX banwagon, A bunch wana be pozers. cant turn a damn corner without seeing one
whats wrong with an EVO or WRX? Or 350z? Rx8? I'd vote those are "okay to drive" as far as FR or AWD....but then again,I'd also rock a FF....so....whatever

[Red]

whats wrong with an EVO or WRX? Or 350z? Rx8? I'd vote those are "okay to drive" as far as FR or AWD....but then again,I'd also rock a FF....so....whatever

nothing wrong with the 350z or RX8... Those seem to be just out of reach of most kids... Personaly I have been thinking of a 350z as my driver and keep playing with the S14... I would love to be able to gut my S14 and do it right... But right now I'm driving my moms maxima while I install my turbo... If I get a 350z that kills alot of fun cash.

[nurspecsil]

As gay to us as FF sounds, to millions of other people a FF car is way more desireable. Lets face it Nissan is in the game to make money and having a FF sports coupe would probably develope a huge following and add some much needed finacial income for the company. As it stands now they are missing out on a pretty big chunk of the market. As long as it is sporty not under powered and has better styling the the sentra, i think it would be a sweet car.

As for FR people like myself 350Z here I come!

Chad

[Var]

if they make it FF they should try to compete with the SRT-4 as far as acceleration and the RSX or similar for handling.

[Ghettokracker71]

if they make it FF they should try to compete with the SRT-4 as far as acceleration and the RSX or similar for handling.
an SR20DET or SR20VE,SR16VET maybe? hmm...QR25DE just wouldn't have the balls to run with the SRT-4 dodge...

[phrozen]

i bet it will be released as a FR car in japan, and if and when it comes to the states they will give us a shitty downgraded model that is FF

[Red]

i bet it will be released as a FR car in japan, and if and when it comes to the states they will give us a shitty downgraded model that is FF

The only reason they did not have the 95-98 FF is the cost to change over the chassy... Unless they make a chassy that can hold both (yeah right) then I doubt they will have a FR in Japan and a FF in the USA... It would cost to much to redo.

EDIT: Spelling

[Wei240]

that's too bad if it's FF...

[Var]

chassis...

[OptionZero]

the SR is dead. The only engines Nissan (in the US at least) will have anytime soon are QR and VQ derivations

[Ghettokracker71]

the SR is dead. The only engines Nissan (in the US at least) will have anytime soon are QR and VQ derivations
Oh....when did they stop making the SE2.0 sentra? That was an SR....hmm..well they better put some boost on that QR or hell,a VQ coupe would be beast.....look at how badass the FF altima is,but in this class a 4 cylinder would be best

[SilviaBoston]

I think Nissan is making a really dumb move...everyone is trying to make their cars so that people can hook them up cuz thats what people want now a days. the new Saab 9-2 is going to be a WRX with a face lift because GM has a shares in Subaru. Subaru isnt happy about it though, and Volvos new sports car already has performance parts to choice from. Nissan needs to look at how much money people over here are spending on Sr20's and Rb20/25/26's and make changes...Toyota realized that they were missing out cuz people are selling their ten year old supras for well over 20k and people buy them like its nothing. Nissan needs to open its damn eyes and see that we the consumer want our FR 240sx back. If you dont think so thats fine, but remember this, when you see the new 9-2 with a WRX setup and the new Volvo S60R with a 500hp turbo kit and your driving your N/A 170hp Sentra. You'll see that Nissans timing is all wrong, they came out with the FR setup cars when the racing scene wasnt big and now that it is they wanna make FF cars that they think people will want...every automotive company is lanching some kind of campain to appeal to people that wanna do more then drive from A-B, but Nissan doesnt wanna take another risk and end up in the poor house agian. If you dont think what i'm saying is true...look in March 2004's Euro Tunner

[Baka Sama]

You know whats really depressing...

2005 Scion TC
2.4 liter
16-valve DOHC VVT-I
160hp/163torque
Optional SuperCharger (200hp w/sc)
Double-wishbone rear suspension, front MacPherson struts
Curb weight~2340/2380
Standard 5spd manual
Standard panorama moonroof
Standard keyless entry and remote hatch operation
Rear seats recline 45 degrees and can be adjusted into 10 different positions
Side Mirrors with Turn Indicators
17-inch six-spoke alloy wheels
Price:Under 16,000.00

If there ever was a car that screamed to be FR instead of FF this is it! This could have easily replaced toyota's 86. If only they would have made it FR I wouldve been the 1st one at the dealership. no joke. I love that car. :boink:

http://carsmedia.ign.com/cars/image/31_2005sciontc.jpg

http://carsmedia.ign.com/cars/image/36_2005sciontc.jpg

http://carsmedia.ign.com/cars/image/44_2005sciontc.jpg

http://carsmedia.ign.com/cars/image/49_tc_supercharger.jpg

[itslogics]

that scion would be pretty damn hot!!!! if it were FR.

[ledzeppelin240]

I feel that if Nissan doesnt have a FF car to compete in the market that yes they will be losing out. But as stated before they are a little late. By realeasing FR cars the will most likely end up like Porche though if they dont have a FF to compete. They will consist of FR cars that are sought out by the enthusiasts or the richeys and not the daily driver. Yes this is great for us but as a Nissan business standpoint they would like to have thier share in every market. All I ask is it not be labeled a Silvia...And possibly a new FR sports coupe besides the 350Z be released.

On the topic of new cars I feel that the styling has died for the main part. There just arent the lines or curves to cars anymore. It really hurts, I am mainly interested in the older Nissan models 93 and older, the 300ZX were beautiful and the 240S were beautiful as well(Im a S13 owner) the Datsuns were just amazing with the styling as well.

[drift freaq]

I think Nissan is making a really dumb move...everyone is trying to make their cars so that people can hook them up cuz thats what people want now a days. the new Saab 9-2 is going to be a WRX with a face lift because GM has a shares in Subaru. Subaru isnt happy about it though, and Volvos new sports car already has performance parts to choice from. Nissan needs to look at how much money people over here are spending on Sr20's and Rb20/25/26's and make changes...Toyota realized that they were missing out cuz people are selling their ten year old supras for well over 20k and people buy them like its nothing. Nissan needs to open its damn eyes and see that we the consumer want our FR 240sx back. If you dont think so thats fine, but remember this, when you see the new 9-2 with a WRX setup and the new Volvo S60R with a 500hp turbo kit and your driving your N/A 170hp Sentra. You'll see that Nissans timing is all wrong, they came out with the FR setup cars when the racing scene wasnt big and now that it is they wanna make FF cars that they think people will want...every automotive company is lanching some kind of campain to appeal to people that wanna do more then drive from A-B, but Nissan doesnt wanna take another risk and end up in the poor house agian. If you dont think what i'm saying is true...look in March 2004's Euro Tunner


ok folks time to call time out. someone reads a speculation article in a Japanese magazine and all of a sudden all you guys think that Nissan is putting out a new car under the Silvia badge thats FF give it up. Your all paranoid and have to much time on your hands. Why I say ? because your all speculating on something you have absolutely no real knowledge of. Give it up!! Until Nissan officially announces something rumors will persist and fly around . In fact Nissan tossed around many concepts of of the new Z car before settling down on the 350Z and same goes for the forthecoming GTR.
So till Nissan officially lets us all we can speculate and Japanese magazines will speculate and Australian websites will speculate but guess what its all speculation!!!! get it!!!

[SilviaBoston]

ok folks time to call time out. someone reads a speculation article in a Japanese magazine and all of a sudden all you guys think that Nissan is putting out a new car under the Silvia badge thats FF give it up. Your all paranoid and have to much time on your hands. Why I say ? because your all speculating on something you have absolutely no real knowledge of. Give it up!! Until Nissan officially announces something rumors will persist and fly around . In fact Nissan tossed around many concepts of of the new Z car before settling down on the 350Z and same goes for the forthecoming GTR.
So till Nissan officially lets us all we can speculate and Japanese magazines will speculate and Australian websites will speculate but guess what its all speculation!!!! get it!!!

I'm just saying every other automotive company is trying to create cars that people can hook up...via dealer parts like the scions or 3rd party companies. Nissan doesnt have a single entry level car beside the Sentra that people can hook up. Saab is getting in on it, Volvo, VW, Honda, Toyota, Subaru, Pontiac, Mitsubishi...need i list more? All of them have performace parts you can buy from the dealer and are trying to make cars that people want to do more with then go from A-B, I'm just saying Nissan is in the wrong boat

[phrozen]

it would be a mistake by nissan to release a ff car... they just released the 350 and g35, they would lose so much money if they released a fr car next year with a 2.0L+ engine espicially under $20,000. And they are supposed to be releasing the GTR in the us sometime next year or 06... If its not called a 240 or a silvia they will still make a car to rival the new scion tc srt4 and other cars in that FF category...

[phrozen]

I mean we all want a FR car to be released around the 20k price range... but they wont do it unless they drop the 350z or bring the price down

[drift freaq]

I mean we all want a FR car to be released around the 20k price range... but they wont do it unless they drop the 350z or bring the price down
well put, in fact there is rumor that there is going to be a turbo z.
If that happens the price of the base model z could drop. Also on top of that you can buy a 350 now for $27k and while that may seem like a lot for the well balanced machine it is and how it performs thats a great entry level value for a real sports car. Oh and please do not bring up a WRX or a EVO to compare as neither are in the same catagory as the 350. The WRX is a streetable awd pro rally machine and the evo is a glorified sedan on steriods that will fall apart on your ass 35k miles down the road.

[brianglawson]

I think they should go to rwd drive again, its coming back. Mercedes is slowly converting chrysler back to it, by giving them there old e class chassis, the crossfire is rwd and on a slk chassis, i garuntee in a few years the neon will be FR. The new pontiac solstice is RWD, the gto is RWD, if americans, the ones that jumped the FF bandwagon hardcore are going back to FR i know the Japanese will. Just takes a little time

[aznpoopy]

ok folks time to call time out. someone reads a speculation article in a Japanese magazine and all of a sudden all you guys think that Nissan is putting out a new car under the Silvia badge thats FF give it up. Your all paranoid and have to much time on your hands.

agreed. lol.

nissan is not 'missing out' on anything. unfortuanetly the vast majority of the 'import culture' crowd doesn't give a damn about performance. big wheels, loud sound system and blinding lights is what makes the $$$. as such i'm positive any cheap car targeting this crowd will be successful as long as it has upgradability in these areas. FR would just be overkill. nissan knows that the masses dont care about performance and that is where the money is. the supra, fd3s and other exotic imports wouldn't have their status in the US today if they were commonplace. these cars are NOT money makers. cars like the civic, where everybody and their mom and their sister and their grandma and the baby brother tuner buys one; that's where the $$$ is. whatever nissan is thinking of should be in this vein... and FR is just overkill and downright bad business when you look at it that way. it costs more and people don't remember how to drive it. the masses don't want RWD.

as such, i also was personally hoping the scion would be FR and the spiritual successor to the 86... i would love a FR under 20k. i just don't think it'll ever happen. the drift 'explosion' crowd is still a very tiny percent of the general driving population.

[Mr. Spool]

Rwd is comming back into style, pontiac, saturn and chrysler are all making somewhat affordable rwd vehicles, the pontiac solstice is what I am getting in 05' its 240 horsepower under 3000 pounds and comes with a factory limited slip. and I can get it for around 18k. if we all got together and petioned nissan they would probably lissen and change up what they are doing and possibly bring an affordable rwd car back. There are what 10k members on here and probably another 20k on other boards, That is a voice to be heard. I am sure we can help curve what ever new car they are going to put into production.

[BuudWeizErr]

I'd have to assume that Nissan wouldn't come to the US with the Silvia, regardless of the drivetrain. They didn't use that naming scheme in the US (Like Laurel, Cefiro, Sunny, etc), they gave us an assortment of numbers and letters. Aside from the 180SX, all (or most) of their cars have a decent naming scheme.

Not in the US. A model named Silvia would be slightly outlandish to someone who had no idea it's heritage and was used to names like 'Camry, Galant, Maxima' etc.

[andrave]

it doesn't really matter, I'm doing to be driving used 240's for the next 3 years, and then when I graduate law school I'm going to start making payments on something better. If there is no new RWD fun car like s2000 or 350z roadster, then I'll be buying an evo, focus cosworth, or STI. Those would make more sense when I start thinking about a family anyway. I really like the way the spy photos of the AWD turbocharged focus cosworth are coming along.. it looks like the WRC car, which is to say badass. If ford sold that it might have actually produced something I would consider owning.

But nissan, aside from the new Z, hasn't produced anything I'd buy in years. I think that the pontiac solstice and the other FR cheap roadsters are gonna come back, and kids are gonna realize how much more fun and predictable FR is.

Under daimler benz's management, dodge is starting to go RWD... the new cars that will be hemi powered as well as the crossfire. Its only a matter of time before that trickles down to their less expensive cars. Pontiac has released plans to go with an economical RWD car. Nissan and infiniti cars are RWD after a stint with FF (G20 and that kind of crap). Even honda has realized that the relatively inexpensive s2000 sold like a muthafucka cause it was RWD. I just wonder how long it will be until a RWD acura to really compete with mercedes, bmw, infiniti, and lexus.
Speaking of lexus, the is300 has been selling like a hotcake too.
I think the trend is towards RWD and AWD cars, and away from FWD. Dodge continues to make the SRT 4 more powerful and more expensive, to the point that with dealer markup you can count on paying as much for one as a WRX, which is AWD. I think its a short time before dodge will offer AWD on the neon.. within the next decade.
Anyway those are all my thoughts on the matter, and I don't have much proof. flame, whatever.