Z32 lights problem

[lucas240sx]

Hello Fellows, Im Lucas. Ive posted this in a Z forum and havent had any help yet

Im a new owner of a 95 300zx 2+2 5spd 135k miles Leather interior
-Little History of the Car-
I paid $1600 for the car...the guy I bought the car from paid $1800...the guy he bought it from paid $4000 from the dealership.
Does not have front and rear carpet, seats are very well intact(few nicks on the edges), drive shaft carrier bearing is bad, I think the a/c fan isnt engaging so a/c only works(slightly) on the hightway, heater pretty much stays on.

-Head lights(low beam), Tail lights(running lights), and Dash lights(all the sensors on the guage lights up) does not come on.
Hi beams work and stay on, brake lights come on.
I checked all the bulbs, fuses(kick panel and in the engine bay along with changing the replays), and replaced the tail light sensor in the back.

What could be the reason why all these will not work?
Ive been searching and this is where I have stalled out at.

Thank you for any help!

[fliprayzin240sx]

Sounds like a fuse issue. Bust out an FSM and check the wiring diagram to it. I bet they're all tied in together to the same wiring schematic.

[racepar1]

I'm no Z expert, but as I recall Z's and GTR's have issues with the headlight switch. The switch burns out internally because of the way nissan wired the system up. Try another switch...

[lucas240sx]

Ive tried 2 from a salvage z32
The orignal switch wouldnt allow brights to come one
The next 2 only brights on and stays on

I do not have a fsm...looked on ebay their expensive, but i may have found one for a very reasonable price

[racepar1]

Ive tried 2 from a salvage z32
The orignal switch wouldnt allow brights to come one
The next 2 only brights on and stays on

I do not have a fsm...looked on ebay their expensive, but i may have found one for a very reasonable price

Has anyone been screwing around with the wiring? I was looking at a wiring diagram just now and it's pretty simple. Fuse 3 in the underdash fusebox sends power to the switch, and the switch sends power to the lights (which is why it burns out).

[lucas240sx]

It does look like someone missed with the wires in the area of the fuses
Bulbs look good
Im going to switch out the turn signal switch

[TTnickdizzle]

Free full Factory service manual....

Online Nissan 300ZX service manual (http://300zx-twinturbo.com/cgi-bin/manual.cgi)


or here
LeatherWheels.com (http://www.leatherwheels.com/z32.htm)

You can thank me later.......

[Wookie384]

I can confirm R32's and S13's have this issue considering my buddy's R32 had a similar issue, as did my S13. I checked everything and all wires, fuses relays etc checked out good, and finally in both scenarios I cracked open the headlight switches to find out the switch burned up inside. I'm pretty sure you must have the same issue, IIRC the Z32 has a similarly designed switch as the R32.

Try using a newer switch or one that is known to be working. If you feel comfortable and know how to work on electrical components I could tell you what to do. (PM me if you do) But I'll bet its the switch.

The issue is a combination of Nissan deciding to send power through the headlight switch, (It would have been smarter if it controlled the ground, or controlled a relay) over time and use the switch will eventually burn up/wear out, and then if you throw a higher wattage bulb in the headlights you're more at risk of burning the switch.

[shift_down]

Leather interior? Must be a fuse

[thedeadking]

Hello Fellows, Im Lucas. Ive posted this in a Z forum and havent had any help yet

Im a new owner of a 95 300zx 2+2 5spd 135k miles Leather interior
-Little History of the Car-
I paid $1600 for the car...the guy I bought the car from paid $1800...the guy he bought it from paid $4000 from the dealership.
Does not have front and rear carpet, seats are very well intact(few nicks on the edges), drive shaft carrier bearing is bad, I think the a/c fan isnt engaging so a/c only works(slightly) on the hightway, heater pretty much stays on.

-Head lights(low beam), Tail lights(running lights), and Dash lights(all the sensors on the guage lights up) does not come on.
Hi beams work and stay on, brake lights come on.
I checked all the bulbs, fuses(kick panel and in the engine bay along with changing the replays), and replaced the tail light sensor in the back.

What could be the reason why all these will not work?
Ive been searching and this is where I have stalled out at.

Thank you for any help!

First of all, I recommend joining twinturbo.net or 300zxclub.com for more/better help. Not only are there ample amounts of knowledgeable people willing to help, but they have great tech sections unlike this site.

What carpet are you talking about? The actual carpet or the floor mats?

-Front floor mats (http://www.z1motorsports.com/product_info.php?products_id=5549)
-Rear floor mats (http://www.z1motorsports.com/product_info.php?products_id=4458)
-Rear trunk/hatch carpet (http://www.z1motorsports.com/product_info.php?products_id=4541)

You can also check the classified ads to see if you can find cheaper, used alternatives on either of the sites I recommended.

Regarding the carrier bearing, you can either replace it or install a 1-piece driveshaft which eliminates it completely. Most likely your transmission mount will also need replacing and should replace at the same time you service the driveshaft.

-Carrier bearing (http://www.z1motorsports.com/product_info.php?products_id=709)
-AMZ 1-piece Driveshaft (http://www.amzperformance.com/product_info.php?products_id=1956&osCsid=nu079i5bg6r4gtbfo42crj5s80)
-Nismo (http://www.amzperformance.com/product_info.php?products_id=1957&osCsid=nu079i5bg6r4gtbfo42crj5s80) / OEM (http://www.amzperformance.com/product_info.php?products_id=785) Transmission Mount

The issue with your low beams and gauge cluster not illuminating, while your hi beams stay on, is either a fuse issue or damaged wiring. Usually, replacing the 10A fuse marked "clearance illumi" in the keep panel inside the Z will solve this EXACT issue 9 out of 10 times. Make sure you're using good, know working fuses not cheap Harbor Freight quality fuses which have been know to be faulty or cause issues.

http://www.botos.com/david/1990_300ZX_fuse_label.gif

[racepar1]

First of all, I recommend joining twinturbo.net or 300zxclub.com for more/better help. Not only are there ample amounts of knowledgeable people willing to help, but they have great tech sections unlike this site.

You know your post COULD have been considered very helpful if you would have just left that last part of the last sentence out. I'm not MR Zilvia anymore, but I DO still take offense to fuckwads from other forums logging in just to talk shit about Zilvia. If it's so shitty then why even bother posting anything? GTFO if you wanna bash.

What carpet are you talking about? The actual carpet or the floor mats?

-Front floor mats (http://www.z1motorsports.com/product_info.php?products_id=5549)
-Rear floor mats (http://www.z1motorsports.com/product_info.php?products_id=4458)
-Rear trunk/hatch carpet (http://www.z1motorsports.com/product_info.php?products_id=4541)

You can also check the classified ads to see if you can find cheaper, used alternatives on either of the sites I recommended.

Regarding the carrier bearing, you can either replace it or install a 1-piece driveshaft which eliminates it completely. Most likely your transmission mount will also need replacing and should replace at the same time you service the driveshaft.

-Carrier bearing (http://www.z1motorsports.com/product_info.php?products_id=709)
-AMZ 1-piece Driveshaft (http://www.amzperformance.com/product_info.php?products_id=1956&osCsid=nu079i5bg6r4gtbfo42crj5s80)
-Nismo (http://www.amzperformance.com/product_info.php?products_id=1957&osCsid=nu079i5bg6r4gtbfo42crj5s80) / OEM (http://www.amzperformance.com/product_info.php?products_id=785) Transmission Mount

I didn't hear the OP asking any questions related to anything you posted above. You must be super cool!

The issue with your low beams and gauge cluster not illuminating, while your hi beams stay on, is either a fuse issue or damaged wiring. Usually, replacing the 10A fuse marked "clearance illumi" in the keep panel inside the Z will solve this EXACT issue 9 out of 10 times. Make sure you're using good, know working fuses not cheap Harbor Freight quality fuses which have been know to be faulty or cause issues.

http://www.botos.com/david/1990_300ZX_fuse_label.gif


That's funny, I told him to check the same fuse a bunch of posts up. Apparently we're not all as stupid as you would like to imply.

[thedeadking]

You know your post COULD have been considered very helpful if you would have just left that last part of the last sentence out.

The post is still very helpful despite your objection. I'm sure the OP appreciates the help from someone who actually owns and works on Z's regularly.

I'm not MR Zilvia anymore, but I DO still take offense to fuckwads from other forums logging in just to talk shit about Zilvia. If it's so shitty then why even bother posting anything? GTFO if you wanna bash.

No, you're not MR. Zilvia, clearly you're MRS. Zilvia and it's that time of the month for you.

Although I am on some other forums, I have been a member here for years. No need to bring up post count because like your ego it's over inflated. I'm sure much of your posts consist of you talking out your ass or giving your worthless opinion unwarranted.

Obviously my post was intended to help the OP and you're clearly distorting and blowing things out of proportion. This forum doesn't have a dedicated Z32 tech section like the two other sites I mentioned, fact. Since it seems that the OP is new to the Z32 and will have other problems arise, I thought I'd be nice enough to let him know where he could source more information. Despite being a Z and 240SX site, much of the content here is 240SX related.

My original post was not meant as an insult, nor did I suggest or hint any disrespect. Perhaps if you weren't some mentally imbalanced mouth breather, looking for an excuses to justify your perpetual butt hurt self, you'd have a grip on reality.

I am trying to help someone here, whereas you're just trying to flex your fictitious internet tough guy muscles. Follow your own advice and GTFO, but do so quietly.

I didn't hear the OP asking any questions related to anything you posted above.

Hello Fellows, Im Lucas. Ive posted this in a Z forum and havent had any help yet

Im a new owner of a 95 300zx 2+2 5spd 135k miles Leather interior
-Little History of the Car-
I paid $1600 for the car...the guy I bought the car from paid $1800...the guy he bought it from paid $4000 from the dealership.
Does not have front and rear carpet, seats are very well intact(few nicks on the edges), drive shaft carrier bearing is bad, I think the a/c fan isnt engaging so a/c only works(slightly) on the hightway, heater pretty much stays on.

-Head lights(low beam), Tail lights(running lights), and Dash lights(all the sensors on the guage lights up) does not come on.
Hi beams work and stay on, brake lights come on.
I checked all the bulbs, fuses(kick panel and in the engine bay along with changing the replays), and replaced the tail light sensor in the back.

What could be the reason why all these will not work?
Ive been searching and this is where I have stalled out at.

Thank you for any help!


He clearly stated the issues he was having and asked for any help offered.

Perhaps you should learn how to comprehend what people write. It would also help if you pulled your head out of your vagina.

You must be super cool!

Of course, especially in comparison to a hapless moron such as yourself.

That's funny, I told him to check the same fuse a bunch of posts up. Apparently we're not all as stupid as you would like to imply.

Yes, you mentioned "fuse 3" and it's purpose; however, you never specifically told the OP to check the fuse. It would have been more helpful if you had provided the name of the fuse you mentioned, because the OP then posted after your comment stating that he was going to replace the turn signal fuse.

I never explicitly stated or implied that zilvia or anyone from it was stupid in my original post. However, due to your own insecurities you've made it painstakingly clear to everyone that you represent all the negative effects of inbreeding. If only your parents had known the repercussions of their actions. Since I know you don't understand the insult let me simplify, you're stupid.

[TTnickdizzle]

Ouch...

Thedeadking: 1
Racepar1: 0

:drama:

[shift_down]

Oh my god. I lmaod

[racepar1]

No, you're not MR. Zilvia, clearly you're MRS. Zilvia and it's that time of the month for you.

I probably shouldn't have taken so much offense to your little comment, but it just rubbed me the wrong way. You do realize that the ONLY reason that I posted anything at all was to get under your skin. It clearly worked like a charm! Thanks, I feel much better now...

Although I am on some other forums, I have been a member here for years. No need to bring up post count because like your ego it's over inflated. I'm sure much of your posts consist of you talking out your ass or giving your worthless opinion unwarranted.

You know, I went through ALL your posts before writing this. I like to know who I'm dealing with before I really start talking. Forget post count, let's concentrate on QUALITY. Most of your posts are F/S forum shit and most of the rest are just talking shit. It's clear that you've gotten more brazen as time went along because the first page is full of F/S thread shitting and talking crap. I think this may be your first post ever in tech, and definitely one of the few. You're not here to help anyone. You're here to troll the F/S section and talk shit. That is crystal clear to me now.

EDIT: I just counted and you actually have 4 posts in tech EVER, including the two in this thread. REAL helpful man...

Obviously my post was intended to help the OP and you're clearly distorting and blowing things out of proportion. This forum doesn't have a dedicated Z32 tech section like the two other sites I mentioned, fact. Since it seems that the OP is new to the Z32 and will have other problems arise, I thought I'd be nice enough to let him know where he could source more information. Despite being a Z and 240SX site, much of the content here is 240SX related.

Your post was indeed somewhat informative, and that was my point. If you would have left your little comment about how poor Zilvia's tech section is out I would have applauded it. You didn't say that there are better places for Z tech, which I would agree with. You said that Zilvia's tech section sucks, which I do not agree with.

Of course, especially in comparison to a hapless moron such as yourself.

DAMN, and I thought I came off as full of myself most of the time. So you are super cool then huh?

Yes, you mentioned "fuse 3" and it's purpose; however, you never specifically told the OP to check the fuse. It would have been more helpful if you had provided the name of the fuse you mentioned, because the OP then posted after your comment stating that he was going to replace the turn signal fuse.

Actually he said he was going to have to replace the turn SWITCH, NOT the fuse. What happened to your reading comprehension???

It's funny how you've got to result to petty insults to "diss" me, none of which are actually true. I used this thing called my BRAIN and came up with actual INTELLIGENT arguments. You should call me some more names. Then you would look even awesomer and cooler! You're just here trolling so go back to what you do best.

[Wookie384]

First of all, I recommend joining twinturbo.net or 300zxclub.com for more/better help. Not only are there ample amounts of knowledgeable people willing to help, but they have great tech sections unlike this site...


Uhhh...Here's a thought, if Zilvia's tech section is lacking, why not add to it, Instead of adding your suggesting and then bashing this forum? You may be right, the Z32 enthuasists may not have much to look at here, but my earlier post was something I expirenced myself, and my proposed solution was what fixed the issue for me and my buddy once and for all, and I'm pretty damn sure the Z32 and R32 headlamp switches are very similar, it may or may not solve the problem but it just might be the trick, and theres one way to find out. Adding your two cents and bashing this forum just sends people to the forum you suggested instead of getting people to stick around here.

If I (as well as anyone else) am right or wrong, and the OP never posts on this forum because you suggest he go elsewhere, we will never know what the solution is, and your comment just prevented this forum from gaining that little bit more knowledge.

You know your post COULD have been considered very helpful if you would have just left that last part of the last sentence out. I'm not MR Zilvia anymore, but I DO still take offense to fuckwads from other forums logging in just to talk shit about Zilvia. If it's so shitty then why even bother posting anything? GTFO if you wanna bash.

QFT, Like I said above. If you got nothing good to say move on.



Also, I find it funny how the OP stated that he posted this issue on a Z forum and didn't get any help...lol


Now that's all out of the way, let's see if we can get the OP's problem solved? I'd like to see what was the problem/solution to his headlight issue.

[thedeadking]

I probably shouldn't have taken so much offense to your little comment, but it just rubbed me the wrong way. You do realize that the ONLY reason that I posted anything at all was to get under your skin. It clearly worked like a charm! Thanks, I feel much better now...

Instead of attacking someone trying to help another member, perhaps you should have stopped yourself and just sat there drinking your cranberry juice. You took offense to a comment you mistook and instead of countering my statement, you attacked me and resorted to name calling. I understand where you were coming from, but at the same time the females in my life are able to keep their cool when their flows are heavy, why can’t you?

Oh, I’m glad the simple things in life are able to entertain someone as simple minded like yourself; especially with all those mental handicaps. Hopefully you’re able to clearly understand all the insults and valid points in this post too.

You know, I went through ALL your posts before writing this. I like to know who I'm dealing with before I really start talking. Forget post count, let's concentrate on QUALITY. Most of your posts are F/S forum shit and most of the rest are just talking shit. It's clear that you've gotten more brazen as time went along because the first page is full of F/S thread shitting and talking crap. I think this may be your first post ever in tech, and definitely one of the few. You're not here to help anyone. You're here to troll the F/S section and talk shit. That is crystal clear to me now.

EDIT: I just counted and you actually have 4 posts in tech EVER, including the two in this thread. REAL helpful man...You took the time to go through all of my posts? Stalker. For the record, I’m in a long term relationship and not looking for a new girlfriend. Don’t worry though, I bet there is some eligible bachelor out there wiling to settle for you; despite your embarrassing PMS outbursts.

As already stated, most of the traffic on this website is 240sx specific. Unlike you, I’m not going to waste others time by guessing solutions to problems like you’ve demonstrated above. In the past when I’ve seen Z32 owners looking for help, I took the time to PM them to try and help solve any dilemma. Proof of my intent to help others is shown in my first post in this thread, so clearly you’re wrong with your assumptions.

Based on your own admission of guilt above, and your first inflammatory and off-topic responses, you fit the definition of a troll. Instead of pointing fingers and childishly trying to somehow one-up me, perhaps should look inward at your own flaws and reflect on your actions. At the very least shut the fuck up and GTFO quietly like I already told you.

Oh, you can count, good for you! Now if only you could work on that reading comprehension.

Your post was indeed somewhat informative, and that was my point. If you would have left your little comment about how poor Zilvia's tech section is out I would have applauded it. You didn't say that there are better places for Z tech, which I would agree with. You said that Zilvia's tech section sucks, which I do not agree with.I am glad to see that you are able to see the obvious from time to time. Yes, my post was both informative and helpful. Unlike you, I don’t need to publicly flaunt my ability and willingness to help others.

I never once insulted the site’s tech section or used the words “poor” or “sucks” to describe it. Truth be told, I do feel that the Z tech section here is lacking, but again I don’t think it’s terrible like you tried to portray me saying. The Z tech section here incorporates all the car’s components (suspension, electrical, etc.), and it clumps all the Z’s from the 1970 Datsun 240sx to today’s Nissan 370z. With all of the Z chassis compiled into one section it makes it extremely difficult to sift through all the threads and information. Again, I never said the things you are falsely accusing me of. Instead of trying to read between the lines you should try to comprehend and understand the actual message.

DAMN, and I thought I came off as full of myself most of the time. So you are super cool then huh?If only your reading comprehension was on par with that of most 4th graders. Maybe then you wouldn’t have to ask both what was already stated and obvious.

Actually he said he was going to have to replace the turn SWITCH, NOT the fuse. What happened to your reading comprehension???

It's funny how you've got to result to petty insults to "diss" me, none of which are actually true. I used this thing called my BRAIN and came up with actual INTELLIGENT arguments. You should call me some more names. Then you would look even awesomer and cooler! You're just here trolling so go back to what you do best.I don’t have a photographic memory, but it was a simple mistake on my end. Regardless, you shouldn’t cast stones when living in a glass house, on top of Bullshit Mountain.

If only I had seen this thread earlier, then maybe the OP wouldn’t have tried replacing the headlight switch (which you recommend) for a third time, and instead simply checked the fuse.

True, when describing you I do have to use petty words, they suit you so well. In all seriousness though, it’s comical that you condemn me for the very same things you initiated and are equally guilty of. As stated above, you’re the one who fits the profile of a troll, not me.

For the record, “awesomer” is not a word, but I’m not surprise that poo-brain of yours thought it was.

[thedeadking]

Uhhh...Here's a thought, if Zilvia's tech section is lacking, why not add to it, Instead of adding your suggesting and then bashing this forum? You may be right, the Z32 enthuasists may not have much to look at here, but my earlier post was something I expirenced myself, and my proposed solution was what fixed the issue for me and my buddy once and for all, and I'm pretty damn sure the Z32 and R32 headlamp switches are very similar, it may or may not solve the problem but it just might be the trick, and theres one way to find out. Adding your two cents and bashing this forum just sends people to the forum you suggested instead of getting people to stick around here.

If I (as well as anyone else) am right or wrong, and the OP never posts on this forum because you suggest he go elsewhere, we will never know what the solution is, and your comment just prevented this forum from gaining that little bit more knowledge.

Again, I did not "bash" the forum or those who use it, nor did I intend for my message to be misread and twisted into something it wasn't.

Yes, I think the tech section here is lacking, but I'm not going to spend a lot of time trying to add and restructure things here when the best available resources are already in existence. Again, this site is primarily used by those with an S13 or S14 and see little traffic from the other chassis. However, I have no problem trying to help those that I see in need and will continue to do so despite racetard1's criticism.

Although you have more experience with the R32, it's great that you were willing to try and offer helpful advice. Besides, more than likely, the electronics in both chassis were manufactured by Niles Japan. I wasn't trying to harm the community here by sending others elsewhere, it never crossed my mind. My only intention was trying to help the OP by telling him where he could find specific resources applicable to him, period.

To be fair, more than likely if the OP solves his issue, he will probably unintentionally forget to update this thread. It happens all the time, even on the forums I recommend. However, thankfully there are already several threads like this on those sites that show/explain the solution. OP, if you solve you issue, please try to remember to update the thread here in case others have the same problem.

[Redsunz916]

WTF is all this female whining bullshit. I read this thread cuz I had a z years ago with the same problem and my solution was sell it. LOL.

[Wookie384]

Again, I did not "bash" the forum or those who use it, nor did I intend for my message to be misread and twisted into something it wasn't.

Yes, I think the tech section here is lacking, but I'm not going to spend a lot of time trying to add and restructure things here when the best available resources are already in existence. Again, this site is primarily used by those with an S13 or S14 and see little traffic from the other chassis. However, I have no problem trying to help those that I see in need and will continue to do so despite racetard1's criticism.

Although you have more experience with the R32, it's great that you were willing to try and offer helpful advice. Besides, more than likely, the electronics in both chassis were manufactured by Niles Japan. I wasn't trying to harm the community here by sending others elsewhere, it never crossed my mind. My only intention was trying to help the OP by telling him where he could find specific resources applicable to him, period.

To be fair, more than likely if the OP solves his issue, he will probably unintentionally forget to update this thread. It happens all the time, even on the forums I recommend. However, thankfully there are already several threads like this on those sites that show/explain the solution. OP, if you solve you issue, please try to remember to update the thread here in case others have the same problem.

I'm not suggesting you spend a lot of time time adding and restructuring everything, just add your little bit of info/suggestion and move on. It's monkey see, monkey do on most forums, Someone adds some info and then eventually more people will have added a decent amount of tech. Almost all tech threads are compiled of people adding info little by little.

You may not have intended it to come off that way but (like most things on the internet) things get misconstrued, I've learned the hard way to think twice before I hit the "submit post" button, because things I tried to say have gotten misunderstood.

Also, I think Racepar1's original reply to you was along the lines as mine, problem is we delivered our comments differently. Again this proves my above mentioned point of shit online getting misconstrued.

Racepar1 may be seem like an ass to you, but thats him being blunt, he actually does know whats he's talking about. I take my family's cars to him for anything I can't do myself.

The OP may or may not want to reply, but all this suggesting other forums, and bitching, whining, and name calling isn't helping thats for sure. I hope he does reply so people can find out what the problem/solution is.

WTF is all this female whining bullshit. I read this thread cuz I had a z years ago with the same problem and my solution was sell it. LOL.

Like I said earlier, if you got nothing good to say, move the fuck on. People posting this useless shit is like getting stuck behind rubber-neckers trying to look at accidents on the 405 during rush hour!

[thedeadking]

I received the following PM and thought I'd just post everything here in case others have this same issue in the future.

Hey thedeadking

Thank you for your advice you gave

Ive checked all the fuses in the kick panel, fuses in engine bay(relay box), and swapped out some relays from a salvage z and nothing had changed
The orignal headlight switch would not allow and light to come on....I pluged in 2 different headlight switchs and high beams come on for both, but no low beam still
The wires in the kick panel looks like they have been messed with....Id like to go back to the salvage and see what i need to do to clean up my wires
They say the TCU controls the interior ligts, but my map lights work and the light under my glove box
Dome lights doesnt come on(maybe bad bulb?) Idk if there is a light under the steering wheel
I replaced the tail light sensor(green relay?) and still no light besides brake lights

Ive read one guy cleaned he turn signal lever(removed all the gue and his low beams started to work)
Another guy replaced his alt and dask lights came back on

I have a thread in 300zxclub and its been almost a week
Noone has responded to my thread
Thats why I came here
There car is nice and motor runs great
Just a few things thats needs to be fixed
Stuff like this makes me love my cars much more

Thank you for any help

As I stated before, I highly recommend replacing the 10A illumination fuse (located in the fuse panel in the driver side foot well (http://www.z32photoguide.com/images/fuseinfwo.jpg)) with a BRAND NEW fuse. Although your fuse(s) may appear to be working, this doesn't necessarily make it true. All three lights (low beams, gauge lights and tail lights) are effected by this one fuse.

Once you have installed a new fuse, if all three lights remain off while the high beams turn on when the switch is on, then there is a break(s) in the wiring leading to the headlights. At this point I recommend using a multimeter to check and see if you are getting voltage to the illumination fuse socket. Also, carefully check the wires visually that plug into the head light switch to see if any of the wires are exposed and touching; if so they are creating a short.

Since you have already replaced the headlight switch with two different ones, I highly doubt the switch is the culprit in this case.

The tail light sensor really only effects the brake lights, not the tail lights. I assume you're talking about the sensor located here?...

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p18/Erubio56/2009-10-04_200327_sensor.jpg

Just thought I'd share how important replacing the illumination fuse with a new one can be...

Anyway, as two others mentioned in this thread, it was in fact the illumination fuse in the kick panel fuse block. I pulled it several times, and it did not look blown. I tested the socket with my multimeter to find that there was voltage, so I put a new fuse in. VIOLA!! I had the lights that I was missing sooo much. So at the risk of sounding utterly moronic, I spent almost a week of testing, probing, reading, questioning, and pondering to find that it was as simple as replacing a fuse that had already been suggested more than once.

I had previously checked the voltage at the fuse socket and was getting voltage and the fuse tested good with an ohm meter. I changed the fuse and problem solved.

Fuses and lamps were the first thing I checked. I don't understand how a fuse would test good with a meter but not provide a voltage path. I don't think it was the fuse seating because I had it out twice. All is working properly now.

[lucas240sx]

I just checked the fuse with a multimeter....output was at 11
Check the headlight relays
Right was at 11.....left was at 8

Change out the turn signal lever...with same results

Does any other the wires in the kick panel area have anything to do with the lights?

[lucas240sx]

Heads up to anyone who cares to learn

My brother figured out the problem
All my fuse and relays are good
The relay box in the engine bay--he pulled it out and had to re-ground the black headlamp relay plug

Tails and headlights work as they should
The dash light comes on...may need to change a bulb or 2
Now i can drive the car at night
Next thing to do it replace the driveshaft collar then this will be the best $1600 ive spent :)