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thizzen4
11-07-2012, 10:44 PM
figured it outtt thanks zilvia first car i built so still learning as i go

JEGS Performance Products 70602 JEGS Hot Rod Heaters (http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS-Performance-Products/555/70602/10002/-1?parentProductId=1697917)

cincity240
11-07-2012, 11:59 PM
I'm assuming you run your lines through the firewall where the factory heater box lines would run , then to the block where the factory hoses goes , what's not to get ?


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cincity240
11-08-2012, 12:00 AM
Maybe you're thinking coolant lines as in A/C ? Because I could maybe see how that would confuse someone if they didn't know a cars heat comes from the warmed coolant ..


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thizzen4
11-08-2012, 08:55 PM
like where would i run them from the raditor ??/ or what ??

Corbic
11-08-2012, 09:17 PM
like where would i run them from the raditor ??/ or what ??

10 seconds google.

http://users.telenet.be/miata/images/coolant_reroute/ScottIngram_reroute/Coolantrouting.jpg

thizzen4
11-08-2012, 10:17 PM
figured it out nowww and still need to build custom sheet meatl dash nd yes i oped my hood hater build the this year shipped shell up from so call and ordxered motor from tiger jap and its the first car i ever build and just got custom knucles and tein inner and outter tie rods and chase bays powersterring cooling kit

Corbic
11-08-2012, 10:51 PM
thanks corbic all see if i can figure it out but dont have any heater lines or connectors like that what would i need to buy ?? i probly sound retarded right now :/

There are two ports on the back of the engine. If your car is running with no heater core right now then there is most likely a "U" shaped hose going from one to the other.

Hose size should be 5/8-3/4, I don't remember.

Simply yank the U hose and install two new hoses of required shape and length to run your new heater box.

Once again, back side of the engine by the firewall, total pain in the ass to reach.

cincity240
11-09-2012, 12:29 AM
S13 or S14 ? The two holes for the heater core on a s14 are on the left side of engine bay not the right ..

CleanAndLegit
11-09-2012, 12:50 AM
S13 or S14 ? The two holes for the heater core on a s14 are on the left side of engine bay not the right ..

thats obviously a rhd car, and its more of a "hey you see this its pretty much the same" kind of picture.

bb4_96
11-09-2012, 05:25 PM
thats obviously a rhd car, and its more of a "hey you see this its pretty much the same" kind of picture.

My guess is it was more to exhibit concept, than a step by step fully illustrated DIY for dummys, type of picture. Possibly intended to get him to do some independent google research. That could have been what he meant by "10 seconds Google"

racepar1
11-09-2012, 05:40 PM
Why in the world would you want to install that??? Your 240 already comes with a heater and it isn't super heavy or anything...

Corbic
11-09-2012, 06:07 PM
Why in the world would you want to install that??? Your 240 already comes with a heater and it isn't super heavy or anything...

His car is gutted.

Trap Star
11-09-2012, 07:23 PM
Still doesn't make sense. If its a track car why bother installing any kind of heater? If its a street car, why does it not have a dash or anything else?

racepar1
11-09-2012, 07:57 PM
His car is gutted.

So what??? I even cut the brackets to mount my heater box out of my old hatch. It was the definition of gutted. 2650lbs with 250lbs of my fat ass, KADE, 1/2 tank of gas, all stock steel body panels, and all stock glass. Then I drove back from Willow Springs in the pouring rain and wised the hell up. I welded the brackets back in, re-mounted the heater box, and I had a heater again. It just doesn't make any sense to mount an aftermarket unit when you can get a stock heater box assembly for like $10 from some guy parting his 240 beater. Besides, that that Jeg's unit looks pretty heavy and the chances that it will mount easily in a 240 are somewhere between shit and fuck. Take it from someone who has been there, tell your buddy to wise the hell up like I did...

Still doesn't make sense. If its a track car why bother installing any kind of heater? If its a street car, why does it not have a dash or anything else?

You need a heater in any street driven car for safety. The heater isn't the primary concern, but the defroster is. I was driving back from Willow Springs in the pouring rain after a track event and I literally could see nothing. I had to wipe the fog off the windshield every 10 seconds and drive like 40mph. That was scary as fuck and I never, EVER, want to be there again. Now if you have a trailered track car then fuck the heater.

JohnnyDrfiter22
11-09-2012, 08:31 PM
Ask Chasebays they were talking about running hot rod heaters in the wiretuck thread

thizzen4
11-09-2012, 08:38 PM
i figured it out thanks for all the help peps
adn no trailor and its gutted to the max full cage with zip tied gauge cluster and seat and sterring wheels thats it
where would the u shape hose be on a sr20det lhd

s14fbs
11-09-2012, 08:50 PM
sounds like u need a pit crew or crew chief for your racecar its really not that hard to figure out have u even opened your hood ?

racepar1
11-09-2012, 10:47 PM
i figured it out thanks for all the help peps
adn no trailor and its gutted to the max full cage with zip tied gauge cluster and seat and sterring wheels thats it
where would the u shape hose be on a sr20det lhd

Yeah, this is the type of thing that you HAVE to figure out yourself. If you need to ask how to use the part then I would suggest that you don't. Mounting and plumbing that setup is going to be completely custom and pretty much nobody else but you is going to waste the time. You will find no write-ups or how-to's on this install. I don't understand how you cannot find your heater hoses. Are they completely eliminated at the block? Like the piping is completely missing? The location of the heater piping should be EXTREMELY obvious. ALL of the water piping is under the intake mani, just like ANY other engine in either a RHD or LHD 240. KA, CA, SR, they're all under there. Anybody who'se ever worked on their 240 knows that. It absolutely staggers me that you can't even find your heater piping, but you want to do some weirdo custom "hot rod" heater install. This is custom work man, you should already know this stuff if you expect it to come out right. I know this comes across as very condescending, but it is the truth. You need to learn how to work on your car as a stock car before you do stuff like this.

cincity240
11-10-2012, 02:10 AM
thats obviously a rhd car

:bowdown:



msglength

ixfxi
11-10-2012, 12:09 PM
like where would i run them from the raditor ??/ or what ??

haha yeah, radiator.. thats usually where hot water is. COOLANT SYSTEM dumbass, you need to tap into the COOLANT SYSTEM.. there's a myriad of heater hoses under the intake manifold of any NISSAN motor.


10 seconds google.
http://users.telenet.be/miata/images/coolant_reroute/ScottIngram_reroute/Coolantrouting.jpg

Oh no.... a BP motor


thats obviously a rhd car,

No... thats obviously a miata


Why in the world would you want to install that??? Your 240 already comes with a heater and it isn't super heavy or anything...

he's trying to re-engineer our heating system, aaron.


You need a heater in any street driven car for safety. The heater isn't the primary concern, but the defroster is. I was driving back from Willow Springs in the pouring rain after a track event and I literally could see nothing. I had to wipe the fog off the windshield every 10 seconds and drive like 40mph. That was scary as fuck and I never, EVER, want to be there again. Now if you have a trailered track car then fuck the heater.

hahahahahahaha YUP, been there AND done that. driving back from the track with a fucking rag in my hand. its a combination of not having a heater AND not having any carpet. when you have a stripped interior, the car does not absorb any moisture and the temp diffs inside and outside create a lot of condensation. its INSANE. driving back from button willow was definitely an experience.. but not my most scary. I think driving with no headlights (just parking lights) at 4AM was probably my worst experience. The street part was OK, it was when I decided to cut through the canyon and there was no moonlight. Uhm... yeah.


Anybody who'se ever worked on their 240 knows that. It absolutely staggers me that you can't even find your heater piping, but you want to do some weirdo custom "hot rod" heater install. This is custom work man, you should already know this stuff if you expect it to come out right. I know this comes across as very condescending, but it is the truth. You need to learn how to work on your car as a stock car before you do stuff like this.

hahaha i love it. aaron, you've been away from zilvia for too long.

its like a zombie movie... majority of people here are retarded and cannot think. the small group of us that can have united and tend to stick together. speaking of which, wheres codyace been?

this forum just gets SAD

racepar1
11-10-2012, 12:13 PM
hahaha i love it. aaron, you've been away from zilvia for too long.

its like a zombie movie... majority of people here are retarded and cannot think. the small group of us that can have united and tend to stick together. speaking of which, wheres codyace been?

this forum just gets SAD

I'm back in the game now, workin out a deal for my next 240 today hopefully! I might have to buy a premium membership again to get rid of the stupid ads.

BTW only 1 "A" in my name, I'm "special"! LOL!

ixfxi
11-11-2012, 07:21 AM
pay for premium, or run adblockplus like the rest of us smart internet users

hopefully you're not going to buy dave's *new* find :)


you were better off away. now that you're back you're going to see how the community has stooped to even lower standards (how is that possible?!?!). all good, its GREAT to hear you posting again. just take heed to my words, you're going to shake your head a lot more often than you used to.

i miss russ :(

KiLLeR2001
11-11-2012, 07:29 AM
Russ dominated the tech section morons haha.

Matej
11-11-2012, 08:17 AM
That heater looks as bulky as the OEM unit.
Do they not have anything smaller?

Real race cars still have dashboards.

racepar1
11-11-2012, 01:19 PM
pay for premium, or run adblockplus like the rest of us smart internet users

hopefully you're not going to buy dave's *new* find :)


you were better off away. now that you're back you're going to see how the community has stooped to even lower standards (how is that possible?!?!). all good, its GREAT to hear you posting again. just take heed to my words, you're going to shake your head a lot more often than you used to.

i miss russ :(

Russ dominated the tech section morons haha.

Damn, no more Russ. I will also miss that! Maybe I'll have to pick-up some slack! LOL!

That heater looks as bulky as the OEM unit.
Do they not have anything smaller?

Real race cars still have dashboards.

^^^ Quoted for truth...

Trap Star
11-11-2012, 03:48 PM
You need a heater in any street driven car for safety. The heater isn't the primary concern, but the defroster is. I was driving back from Willow Springs in the pouring rain after a track event and I literally could see nothing. I had to wipe the fog off the windshield every 10 seconds and drive like 40mph. That was scary as fuck and I never, EVER, want to be there again. Now if you have a trailered track car then fuck the heater.
I had almost no issues with no heat driving in Tampa for a year, I did have a full interior though so maybe thats the difference. My point was it doesn't make sense to strip everything out of your car and then run an aftermarket heater. Just seems like it defeats the purpose of stripping out the original heating system in the first place.

racepar1
11-11-2012, 05:04 PM
I had almost no issues with no heat driving in Tampa for a year, I did have a full interior though so maybe thats the difference.

Yeah, I didn't have any issues for a long time as well. Once I did have an issue though is was clearly un-safe.

My point was it doesn't make sense to strip everything out of your car and then run an aftermarket heater. Just seems like it defeats the purpose of stripping out the original heating system in the first place.

I 10000000000000000000000000% agree with the above statement. It is absolutely ridiculous to strip out your stock heating system. Then spend a bunch of money and time replacing it with some aftermarket unit. That is complete non-sense.

bataangpinoy
11-11-2012, 07:30 PM
unless you bought a shell that had nothing in it then i can see someone buying this.

Trap Star
11-11-2012, 07:47 PM
unless you bought a shell that had nothing in it then i can see someone buying this.
Still pointless. You can get the stock equipment for stupid cheap or even free if someone just wants it out of their garage/storage area. Even if someone bends you over price wise it will still come in under $180.