interest in abflug style s13 headlights?

[RedSiBaron]

Want to gauge interest in this. I am considering making some for myself. Thinking probably carbon insides with lexan formed lenses. If there's enough interest I may organize a group buy to get the cost of my tooling recouped and to reduce the cost for those in the group buy and any future buyers. I would hope to include plug and play harnesses as well. From what I've seen of the abflug headlights I can easily improve upon the quality looks and cost.

Right now I don't need to hear about cost questions, just if people like them enough to buy them. I would figure out how to get cost down to a reasonable amount. Not looking to make money off this just pay for tooling to make them look nicer. If I can't build them cheap enough I won't produce them.

This is essentially the abflug headlights.
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p112/sxj6151/NICO2/GetAttachment.jpg
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p112/sxj6151/NICO2/053.jpg

[jaxshawn]

i'd be interested pending price of course

[xoxide]

Looks like the bastard child of a 300zx

[RedSiBaron]

Personally I feel the 300z headlights look worse than these. This is just the nicest flush style 180sx pop up replacement I've seen. These were pretty popular a number of years ago and hard to get in the US

[7jpat]

Looks like the bastard child of a 300zx

thats what i was thinking, but its not that bad

[RedSiBaron]

Also I should mention. There appears to be two versions. Ones with a filler eyelid piece and one without. Not sure if I would offer both or one...I'll post the different pics later if I can find them.

[fufanu180]

I am interested.


CenTex240

[Kingbaby]

make if first then real interest will come!

[Infamax]

I wouldn't put those on my car, even if I were paid.

[RedSiBaron]

I wouldn't put those on my car, even if I were paid.

Alright in that case I won't try to pay you to run them, thanks for your helpful feedback.

[Infamax]

You're welcome. If you need anything else, feel free to ask.

[RedSiBaron]

make if first then real interest will come!

That's not really how proper low run production works. I can show pre production prototype stuff but I'm not going to cut a mold on the cnc before I know if I can recoup cost. Not to mention lexan is best bought in quantity as is any material like carbon.

The more people that buy into the initial buy, I'll continually reduce cost of the final part since I'm just looking to pay for materials and tooling. I will even be putting in my share, the buy doesn't pay for my set. The buy will be cost price. No profit for me. This just means it helps me afford to make myself (and others) high quality headlights, not some bent sheetmetal bullshit.

[Kingbaby]

understood

From being in the aftermarket since 07 I've noticed having a actually product always help!

Either way good luck!

Also recommend looking into using the Xenon headlight would bring a modern output to them making them more function than just form.

[eZiR- rps13]

possibly interested depending on final product and over all cost
but yea interested none the less

[dazed]

http://auctions.c.yimg.jp/img389.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/users/4/6/8/5/yanyan4690-img600x450-1351607407sjw0oo65820.jpg

Real deal in good condition for $450ish shipped. Stupid cheap deal, and they hardly ever pop up for sale.

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[RedSiBaron]

http://auctions.c.yimg.jp/img389.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/users/4/6/8/5/yanyan4690-img600x450-1351607407sjw0oo65820.jpg

Real deal in good condition for $450ish shipped. Stupid cheap deal, and they hardly ever pop up for sale.

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Nice find, those are the square light version. I would love to buy those as a reference to reverse engineer

[BOROSUN]

looks like that one is missing the front covers.

the one ive seen pops up on ebay goes around for 1k. yikes

[ixfxi]

a poor design....
....by any means of imagination

[illvialuver]

I think it looks good, I remember seeing that nitto add back in the early 2000 and being like " wow that looks clean" what is the estimated cost of this?

[Chuki_KA24e]

Looks like the bastard child of a 300zx

I agree, and will go so far as to say it looks like a Ferrari F40 raped a 300zx and the 300zx should have had an abortion...

[Frank_Jaeger]

Give a ballpark estimate of the price.

[RedSiBaron]

Guys you really don't understand how low production works. I have to prototype the product first before I'll be able to estimate tooling and materials cost. I can say id like to keep them under 500 a set but I'm basing that on nothing. Not like I'm having these made in China, I'm having to build these 100% myself by hand with a mold (that I have to make) and vacuum former which I'll again have to make a buck to mold the lens over.

[RHD_G]

These really are the nicest flush pop up replacement that ive seen out that doesnt look horrible, they arent for everyone but for those looking to switch, only other decent option that ive seen is supermade but i dont like the open style. If they are good quality as in fitment and materials then i dont see why you wouldnt get at least what supermade is asking for theirs

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[RHD_G]

What linner shape lights are you going with? From what i can see in the pics the top car is circular and the bottom car is rectangle

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[burgundyandblue]

Interested but of course depends on price.

[Chaluska]

Guys you really don't understand how low production works. I have to prototype the product first before I'll be able to estimate tooling and materials cost. I can say id like to keep them under 500 a set but I'm basing that on nothing. Not like I'm having these made in China, I'm having to build these 100% myself by hand with a mold (that I have to make) and vacuum former which I'll again have to make a buck to mold the lens over.

Why not tool them to accept light modules, so you dont have to provide the lighting.. you would only provide the lense and bracket, and anyone can put in projectors / FF reflectors / foglights whatever in them.

keep your costs down..

I've made a vacuum forming box, and vacuum formed some lexan around a oem flip-up lip and made clear lenses...

its pretty easy to do, but definitely time consuming.

Id love for someone to make these...

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/9715/hella3o.jpg

they bolt on to the front of the headlight bucket, and you insert whatever hella 90mm modules you want in there..

[ixfxi]

Guys you really don't understand how low production works. I have to prototype the product first before I'll be able to estimate tooling and materials cost. I can say id like to keep them under 500 a set but I'm basing that on nothing. Not like I'm having these made in China, I'm having to build these 100% myself by hand with a mold (that I have to make) and vacuum former which I'll again have to make a buck to mold the lens over.

You must have forgotten what community this is. 500 bucks buys most people here a "whole nother car maing"


Interested but of course depends on price.

Proof is in the pudding



If you ask me, I say you build it first... then post. Nothing better than people spending their hard earned time and money building things that people may or may not buy.

[RedSiBaron]

These really are the nicest flush pop up replacement that ive seen out that doesnt look horrible, they arent for everyone but for those looking to switch, only other decent option that ive seen is supermade but i dont like the open style. If they are good quality as in fitment and materials then i dont see why you wouldnt get at least what supermade is asking for theirs

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Thanks for the helpful feedback. I won't sell them unless they fit perfect and the finish is perfect. I went to school for car design and currently work at a prototyping company that does machining rapid prototyping and composites. We've done fixtures for production headlights for Honda and other companies. So if I have a question, I can find a solution though I'm already pretty sure how I want to build them.

What linner shape lights are you going with? From what i can see in the pics the top car is circular and the bottom car is rectangle

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Honestly I'm not sure. I could potentially do both since it's just a trim and mount operation before it gets sent out anyway. I like the circular if they are large enough but the square fits well with the design language of the car and time period.

I'll probably offer square and circular as well as eye lid and non eyelid lenses like above.

You must have forgotten what community this is. 500 bucks buys most people here a "whole nother car maing"




Proof is in the pudding



If you ask me, I say you build it first... then post. Nothing better than people spending their hard earned time and money building things that people may or may not buy.

Ya there are a lot of broke dicks here but there are still people who spend money on them and may like them. 500 was merely my ceiling of I wont make them if they exceed that. I'd really prefer to see a lower cost than that. Again it's hand made shit not from China.

I can still make them and post but like I've been saying to make them first I have to do the tooling regardless of whether I make more for others. If people are interested it means I may be able to get it done faster and cheaper and more likely I'll go forward with it.

[kouki-gymkhana]

Why not tool them to accept light modules, so you dont have to provide the lighting.. you would only provide the lense and bracket, and anyone can put in projectors / FF reflectors / foglights whatever in them.

keep your costs down..

I've made a vacuum forming box, and vacuum formed some lexan around a oem flip-up lip and made clear lenses...

its pretty easy to do, but definitely time consuming.

Id love for someone to make these...

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/9715/hella3o.jpg

they bolt on to the front of the headlight bucket, and you insert whatever hella 90mm modules you want in there..

Make them yourself! That's what I did as I have the CAD file for that bracket. It's quite a bit of work but when properly fitted with HID Hella units works pretty well. It's more than just the bracket that's needed to make it work properly though...

[derux]

PM me that cad file i want to make a set

[ixfxi]

Ya there are a lot of broke dicks here but there are still people who spend money on them and may like them. 500 was merely my ceiling of I wont make them if they exceed that. I'd really prefer to see a lower cost than that. Again it's hand made shit not from China.

I can still make them and post but like I've been saying to make them first I have to do the tooling regardless of whether I make more for others. If people are interested it means I may be able to get it done faster and cheaper and more likely I'll go forward with it.

500 is not enough for a project like this. the first problem i see with this project is that you the engineer, are opening yourself up to the (useless) criticism from the uneducated/inexperienced zilvia community. you should not pay attention to their price requests nor should you pay attention to their design requests. you need to do what you think is best, and you need to engineer it in a way that it meets your standards, not zilvia standards. with that said, i can tell you that 500 is not enough to cover the costs AND justify the effort. simply put, you cannot build it at that price point and profit.


PM me that cad file i want to make a set

get a job, ya bum...! you dont even have a 240 anymore. :-)

[RedSiBaron]

500 is not enough for a project like this. the first problem i see with this project is that you the engineer, are opening yourself up to the (useless) criticism from the uneducated/inexperienced zilvia community. you should not pay attention to their price requests nor should you pay attention to their design requests. you need to do what you think is best, and you need to engineer it in a way that it meets your standards, not zilvia standards. with that said, i can tell you that 500 is not enough to cover the costs AND justify the effort. simply put, you cannot build it at that price point and profit.




get a job, ya bum...! you dont even have a 240 anymore. :-)

thanks man, very appreciated...i mean we'll see, since i have access to all the equipment for tooling it might not be too expensive. it will be to my standards if i make it, plus people saying i could let people buy them and put their own headlights in. NO. Because ill sell it to some guy who does a zip tie headlight install and then some asshole will look at them and post all over the internet on how they look like crap because of that detail.

I'll probably end up making them and offering a group buy, but ultimately having to just make them for only the people willing to put up the cash.

[Minz]

Abflug x Oldschool!
http://iforce.co.nz/i/nvwc5px4.l3a.jpg
http://iforce.co.nz/i/35c1vlbl.feo.jpg

[derux]

get a job, ya bum...! you dont even have a 240 anymore. :-)

I got to do something to pay for your services...

[kouki-gymkhana]

Who said I got the CAD file for free? I was just responding to the picture in the post.

[derux]

Well you got the fild and I work at a sheetmetal shop so I could make some. I think there was a song in the 80's that went somethig like that.

[Corbic]

Looks like the bastard child of a 300zx

I see a stronger resemblance to something far far worse.

http://image.superstreetonline.com/f/featuredvehicles/10287271++w791/0009_sstp_z+1997_saturn_sc2+side_view.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/1/3109/981/7770490042_large.jpg

http://images.uptilo.com/legendmp/B276B216-AF3A-44EB-BA90-E4D520FEADA0.jpg

[RedSiBaron]

Haha they don't look anything like that...besides it's an s13 it's not really considered a beautiful or classic design. Its basically a combination of a Ferrari Daytona and a corvette anyway.

[racepar1]

If you made actual good quality replicas of those lights they would sell like crazy. The AB flug lights are the best looking flush lights that I have ever seen for a 240. Anybody with a street driven track car would be stupid to not want them...

[racepar1]

500 is not enough for a project like this. the first problem i see with this project is that you the engineer, are opening yourself up to the (useless) criticism from the uneducated/inexperienced zilvia community. you should not pay attention to their price requests nor should you pay attention to their design requests. you need to do what you think is best, and you need to engineer it in a way that it meets your standards, not zilvia standards. with that said, i can tell you that 500 is not enough to cover the costs AND justify the effort. simply put, you cannot build it at that price point and profit.

:stupid:

I would say closer to $1,000 for a really nice quality product.

[ixfxi]

Who said I got the CAD file for free? I was just responding to the picture in the post.

cool. can i have a copy of the cad file too?


:stupid:

I would say closer to $1,000 for a really nice quality product.

and then we run into the radiator core support, which MUST be cut.

one of many obstacles, imo...

[racepar1]

and then we run into the radiator core support, which MUST be cut.

one of many obstacles, imo...

Cutting and welding is fun, no prob for me. There's no reason to have to cut the core support anyways. The headlights can be designed to clear, I'm pretty sure the AB flug's did. You might have to get a big hole saw to clear the back of the projectors, but that's about it.

[Winkler22]

I would be extremely interested. I have wanted a set for a while because where the adjustable bracket attaches to the pop-up motor is loose on the inside, I have tightened the bolt and nothing. But going down the interstate at night my headlights look like they have Parkinsons. I know you said something about carbon fiber, but I would be worried about it fading or turning yellow like you see some hoods do. Don't know how they look with an HID kit, but you can pick up a set of J30 headlights pretty cheap at a junk yard and that will give you 4 projectors.

[RedSiBaron]

The reason carbon yellows is because of the gel coat on it reacting to uv light

[RedSiBaron]

I could always cast them out of plastic as well

[racepar1]

I would be extremely interested. I have wanted a set for a while because where the adjustable bracket attaches to the pop-up motor is loose on the inside, I have tightened the bolt and nothing. But going down the interstate at night my headlights look like they have Parkinsons. I know you said something about carbon fiber, but I would be worried about it fading or turning yellow like you see some hoods do. Don't know how they look with an HID kit, but you can pick up a set of J30 headlights pretty cheap at a junk yard and that will give you 4 projectors.

Actually that's a really good idea on the J30 projectors. That would be an easy and cheap source for the necessary parts.

I could always cast them out of plastic as well

Plastic fades too. Just make sure that your gelcoat is very good quality and UV resistant. Most of the "carbon" parts that fade and yellow are cheap ass quality with non-UV resistant gel-coating.

[RedSiBaron]

Both good points. ^^^ thank you

[SR20PWRALTY]

I would be interested

[RedSiBaron]

Also to add. If I've read correctly the abflug were plug and play, so I don't think cutting should be required. That said. If I add projectors, like j30 ones, I could see us needing to cut which I don't like. Right now I'm finishing up some stuff on my car so I can get my bumper and hood on, then I can start thinking about the headlights. I'll keep everyone updated when I move forward.

[racepar1]

Also to add. If I've read correctly the abflug were plug and play, so I don't think cutting should be required. That said. If I add projectors, like j30 ones, I could see us needing to cut which I don't like. Right now I'm finishing up some stuff on my car so I can get my bumper and hood on, then I can start thinking about the headlights. I'll keep everyone updated when I move forward.

You would have to make an adapter harness, like on the s13 Silvia headlights, to make them plug and play. Really it's not that difficult, BUT it would take extra time and cost extra money.

[RedSiBaron]

Yup that's what I said the plan was. An adapter harness isn't a big deal.

[S-Nation S13]

omg no no no !!! complete fail .. please dont transform your car into SHIT!

[RedSiBaron]

Yup complete fail on my track car since I'm simplifying lightening and making it more aerodynamic. Pop ups totally help with that...

[racepar1]

Yup complete fail on my track car since I'm simplifying lightening and making it more aerodynamic. Pop ups totally help with that...

Not to mention that pop-ups absolutely do not weigh a bazillion pounds either...

Some people just have no taste man!

[GripTerror]

Proper HID projectors and high beam projectors should be used not ancient bulbs. And yes the rad support has to be cut, i know been there.

[RedSiBaron]

Ok good info gripterror. Ill make a template with it then...

[96Turbo]

Again it's hand made shit not from China.

Hey man, Chinese people have hands too

[brndck]

you make em, i'll buy em. i've wanted a set of ab-flug/veilside/cecil lights for years but every time a pair comes up for sale they're either gone before i can come up with $$$ or something else lame happens.

[RedSiBaron]

Hey man, Chinese people have hands too

Haha true, but I never said they didn't ;)

you make em, i'll buy em. i've wanted a set of ab-flug/veilside/cecil lights for years but every time a pair comes up for sale they're either gone before i can come up with $$$ or something else lame happens.

Thanks a lot. Your posts definite attitude makes me want to make them just for you.





Welp guys enough people have spoken despite the haters. Ill do it definitely.

[brndck]

sam from jspec had these for a long time and i always would drool over em. the price tag was too high for me at that time.
180sx Fixed Headlight (http://www.jspec.com/18fihe.html)
http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/jspec_2230_32598698

[brndck]

the only other thing i'm gonna say about it is, if its good enough for emperor koguchi, its good enough for me!
http://www.koguchipower.com/top.jpg
http://cdn.speedhunters.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/koguchi1_0zFI_0.jpg
http://cdn.speedhunters.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/koguchi1_3y9N_3.jpg
http://www.nismo.co.jp/en/products/news_list/cp/2009/img/news_090527/img_01.jpg
http://www.c-west.co.jp/event/das/das2004/drft/img/koguchi01L.jpg
http://www.rhdjapan.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/51583/Image/Normal/Image1.jpg
http://www.rhdjapan.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/51583/Image/Normal/Image2.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2380/2448272983_cda7cef54e_o.jpg

[Phlip]

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p112/sxj6151/NICO2/053.jpg

I know the owner of this car, he lives here in NC. When I met him in 2001, he had it in his mind that he would make and sell his own version of those lights.

In 2004, he was CLOSE to completing it, and they were looking damn good. I was interested. I am pretty sure he rarely even moves his 240 much anymore.

[brndck]

I know the owner of this car, he lives here in NC. When I met him in 2001, he had it in his mind that he would make and sell his own version of those lights.

In 2004, he was CLOSE to completing it, and they were looking damn good. I am pretty sure he rarely even moves his 240 anymore.

You should probably have him give me those lights for Christmas. :keke:

[RedSiBaron]

Would you mind PMing me his contact info Phlip?

And thanks for all the reference pics guys they should help a lot. I'm currently thinking odds how I can make them even more modern construction.

[Phlip]

You should probably have him give me those lights for Christmas. :keke:

You should probably hold your breath.
I have seen him part, restore/flip and move SEVERAL cars in the time we've known one another and NOTHING on that one gets removed/parted.

[knifedag007]

Any updates on this Baron???

[Matej]

Has anyone attempted putting 2nd generation NSX headlights on an S13?
The size and angles are close enough, one would just need to trim the hood mainly.
It would probably look better than any of the bolt-on fixed headlights ever made for the S13. Since all of them retain the square shape it just makes it obvious that the car is supposed to have pop-up headlamps.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/Comptonassdaniel/nsx.jpg


Though as far as bolt-on fixed headlamps go, the Zesty Racing ones are definitely the best-looking.

http://taupakidriftclub.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/touge180.jpg

[cured13]

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/9715/hella3o.jpg

they bolt on to the front of the headlight bucket, and you insert whatever hella 90mm modules you want in there..

I don't get it why these and lexan piece are not for sale yet. This is enough for anybody to make their lights the way they want them to be - square, round, HID's or not. It won't even be close to $200 and you'll make good profit by selling a lot of them. If you want to sell them for $500-$1000 then include everything in good quality kit. Few rich fanboys will get it so they can be "special".
Go for DIY kit - Lexan and frame only or don't bother.

[cured13]

Here you go:
incorporate half of the oem lights covers to cut on Lexan material use

-MORE PROFIT!

http://taupakidriftclub.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/touge180.jpg

looks even better to.

Just do it, or I'll copy it and start selling it in one month.

Ready, set, go!

[bejota180sx]

lexan would not work, it would look like crap after a few months of use... unless you use that protective clear vinyl stuff. Lexan gets scratches really easy, by just washing your car it would get scratched up by the dirt/dust.

[silviaks2nr]

High impact acrylic would be the best choice, just not polyethelene like oem lenses or they would oxidize quickly given their mostly flat orientation. The reason there is not a product like this is the 240sx community is not what it once was. It's full of broke kids who would rather buy a cheap bodykit and rotas and put their car into a parking lot pole. Anyone who would have interest in something like this would probably just make a one off set for themselves.

[KiLLeR2001]

IMO, I think its an ugly modification. What are the differences (aerodynamically) between these headlights and the OEM pop-ups when they are not on? Who is racing in the darkest hours of the night where the difference between winning and losing are a set of headlights like these? LOL.

[ryceboy_124]

I have a set of ABFlugs...bought them about a year ago and haven't come around to even I stalling them. :( I'll do it...someday.

[brndck]

I have a set of ABFlugs...bought them about a year ago and haven't come around to even I stalling them. :( I'll do it...someday.

Ehhhhhhhhh you should probably just sell em to me. They'd go great with my koguchi fenders.

[RedSiBaron]

IMO, I think its an ugly modification. What are the differences (aerodynamically) between these headlights and the OEM pop-ups when they are not on? Who is racing in the darkest hours of the night where the difference between winning and losing are a set of headlights like these? LOL.

scca classes that race in the rain (which is like every one of them) require functional headlights. so this would be a lightweight aerodynamic option. that's why I was thinking of building them. plus all it takes is one bump in the front and your pop ups wont pop up because the lid shifts or something bends and it gets stuck on the hood.

I have a set of ABFlugs...bought them about a year ago and haven't come around to even I stalling them. :( I'll do it...someday.

send one of them to me so I can 3d scan it here at work so i can reverse engineer these easy, and then ill send it back within a week.

Ehhhhhhhhh you should probably just sell em to me. They'd go great with my koguchi fenders.

if you wait ill make them better than the originals ;)

though I know ive been dragging my feet since im just not at the point where I can even mock these up on my own car. sorry about that

[Matej]

Use these headlight buckets with some cool HID projectors. The further set the projectors are, the more alright it looks. I think Chaser Aero sells a replica.
http://www.nicoclub.com/articles/vert-proj/images/proj8-7.jpg

Then put some kind of a lexan/plexiglass/clear cover over them, but make sure the cover extends all the way to the end of the bumper cutout, instead of just to where the pop-up headlight would end. And paint the bumper cutout to match the inside of the headlight.

Something similar to this, but less MS Painty. Instant Koenigsegg, McLaren F1, Dauer 962, or whatever supercar you want to pretend to be driving.
http://irony.cc/media/image/auto/nissan/flushlight.jpg


I have pondered flush-mounted headlights before, but arrived at the conclusion that the only way it will ever look as good/better than stock is if you can make them appear as if they could have come on the car from the factory. Otherwise something about them will always look off.

[bejota180sx]

something like Rosebud's headlight with a smaller NSX type headlight would look nice. The only thing holding me back from cutting the oem cover and installing the nsx headlight is having to make a plastic surround to make it look oemish instead of just a big hole like rosebud has, Nagano pulled it off on that car but i know my car would look like a third of zilvia chopped up missiles if i do it...

[RedSiBaron]

fyi that above is not a cut up oem cover almost guaranteed., thats probably painted fiberglass...

I could do an optional NSX lens no problem for people wanting to run projector HID deals.

I am on the other hand am going to stick to old fashion halogens for the purpose of reliable simplicity.

[ixfxi]

do you turds even understand the costs involved with the 2nd-gen NSX headlights? NSX owners gripe and have a hard time justifying the expense, I cant imagine you dumb/broke 240 owners attempting to install $3000 worth of headlights on the front-end of your piece of shit cars. this, of course, excluding any cost or effort needed to actually mount and fiberglass the headlights so that they actually bolt-on and look proper.

you guys keep posting up photos of cars that are using fog/driving lights as headlights with a 10-cent plastic cover over them.

this thread is a fucking pipe dream.

[RedSiBaron]

do you turds even understand the costs involved with the 2nd-gen NSX headlights? NSX owners gripe and have a hard time justifying the expense, I cant imagine you dumb/broke 240 owners attempting to install $3000 worth of headlights on the front-end of your piece of shit cars. this, of course, excluding any cost or effort needed to actually mount and fiberglass the headlights so that they actually bolt-on and look proper.

you guys keep posting up photos of cars that are using fog/driving lights as headlights with a 10-cent plastic cover over them.

this thread is a fucking pipe dream.

you mean people keep posting their pipe dreams in response to a thread about making replica/ abflug style headlights that will end up costing about the price of the real deal most likely...

im just going to make them for me at this point and if someone wants to pay me to build them a set, they can. I know a few people will put down the money. I need lights for my racecar besides pop ups, ill build them to my needs. no projectors, no hids, good ol fashion hellas. done.

[brndck]

+1 /\/\/\
And also, nsx lights can be done for under $800.
Once again, mike insists that you need $374058 headlights on your car or else the universe will explode.

[ixfxi]

you guys are smoking cock


find me 2nd-gen NSX headlights for under $800
i will buy as many sets as you can supply

[brndck]

you guys are smoking cock


find me 2nd-gen NSX headlights for under $800
i will buy as many sets as you can supply

my bad, i missed the part where you said SECOND gen.
:lfault:

[bejota180sx]

do you turds even understand the costs involved with the 2nd-gen NSX headlights?

i was referring to first gen NSX, the popup style... i would pay a good amount for a well made kit. I just paid almost $1.5k on a kognition wing i have no problem spending it on good lighting... i was going to buy your kit a long time ago but since you don't ship them (for obvious quality reasons) i've always skipped everything else on the market since most of it is ebay crap with hids fitted badly...

[codyace]

i was referring to first gen NSX, the popup style... i would pay a good amount for a well made kit. I just paid almost $1.5k on a kognition wing i have no problem spending it on good lighting... i was going to buy your kit a long time ago but since you don't ship them (for obvious quality reasons) i've always skipped everything else on the market since most of it is ebay crap with hids fitted badly...

Careful now, there isn't enough real estate on Mike's junk to take on any more nut swingers....






:ddog: Ask me how I know! :D

[ixfxi]

my bad, i missed the part where you said SECOND gen.
:lfault:

I thought the entire point of this thread was for FLUSH headlights.

Then some dimwit decides to post a photo of a 2nd-gen, as if an s-chassis can be made to look like that. It cant, it just cant be done right. And if it is possible, the costs exceed the effort.

Thats the thing about this industry, there are people that wont take no for an answer. Thats all fine and dandy, as long as they understand the significant cost and labor involved in pursuing (and completing) their objective.

Its either something is too expensive (story of my life) or that the person simply never finishes a project they set out to do (story of most guys on zilvia). Millions of pending unfinished projects............ like my S13.


i was referring to first gen NSX, the popup style... i would pay a good amount for a well made kit. I just paid almost $1.5k on a kognition wing i have no problem spending it on good lighting... i was going to buy your kit a long time ago but since you don't ship them (for obvious quality reasons) i've always skipped everything else on the market since most of it is ebay crap with hids fitted badly...

If you want it bad enough, do your research, buy your parts, and give it a shot. You're in Puerto Rico, you guys know how to work with what you got. Thats the way I've always done things. If you dont want to deal with the bullshit, buy a pair of Cibie 200mm headlights and call it a day. It works for TONS of enthusiasts and no one EVER complains after going with those headlights. Simple, effective, and inexpensive - you have my word on that.


oh, and in regards to the 1st-gen NSX headlights... I just dont get it. The optics arent anything out of the ordinary. They're good, but not great by any means. With that said, why attempt to install something that simply doesnt fit? Matej insists that he can make it work, more power to him. I looked at it a few times and said NO WAY. Those headlights have a chinaman's chance in hell in fitting. I'de love to see it happen, but I highly doubt its possible to be done properly.

properly (my definition):
- lifts and retracts
- optics are correctly aligned
- vehicle body & core support is not hacked
- uses an OEM-style bezel that fits and looks proper

[Rambo slice]

i think you should try to make an improved version of supermade buckets
http://shirtstuckedin.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/JapanSupermadeD1.jpg

http://shirtstuckedin.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/JapanD1Supermade.jpg

http://shirtstuckedin.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/JapanD1Supermade2.jpg

http://cdn.speedhunters.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/IMG_0197_opXi_7.jpg

http://cdn.speedhunters.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/IMG_0075_1aOV_10.jpg

stolen from dorisha appreciation thread :hide:

[RedSiBaron]

why? those are an aero drag and ugly, and this is a thread about abflug style lights.

[bejota180sx]

If you want it bad enough, do your research, buy your parts, and give it a shot. You're in Puerto Rico, you guys know how to work with what you got. Thats the way I've always done things. If you dont want to deal with the bullshit, buy a pair of Cibie 200mm headlights and call it a day. It works for TONS of enthusiasts and no one EVER complains after going with those headlights. Simple, effective, and inexpensive - you have my word on that.


properly (my definition):
- lifts and retracts
- optics are correctly aligned
- vehicle body & core support is not hacked
- uses an OEM-style bezel that fits and looks proper


I'm a 2 trimester away mechanical engineer, so i've learned to work with what i got also, but knowing that at this moment i wouldn't end up with a good looking/working product i'm not even starting on this thing. When i get a good design idea i'll jump into it. Since my car has a midmount (it's mostly a track oriented car), it doesn't have retractors just the flipups held correctly in place, so having them stay lifted is not a problem. I wouldn't hack the support in any way, i find that stupid. and THAT last point is what holds me back... a plastic/aluminium bezel that hides everything around the headlight. I've gotten a dozen ideas on brackets and good positioning for the optics but without a good idea for that bezel to cover it im not even starting.

Now for my daily vert, i'm looking for something that REALLY works to improve lighting and is oem placement, and that's why i will be using Cibies and good output halogen bulbs.



About the optics, i'm trusting your word that they aren't anything out of the ordinary. But having a divided low and high beams has to be a plus so i can put the low beam correctly (realign after lowering the car) and be able to allign the high beam to a better position since i wouldn't only use them in extreme cases they wouldn't blind traffic from opposite direction. And to be sincere i want that lowered headlight look like the nsx and gt3000 but in NO way will i hack up a ebay headlight and just install any hid projector and don't care to use those supermade things with foglights either, at the moment NSX headlights are the best idea i've gotten, assuming i can position them correctly and align them correctly.

[ixfxi]

http://shirtstuckedin.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/JapanSupermadeD1.jpg

^ this is the reason people are stupid, they like things that look "bitchin" but work like total shit. There is a reason cars dont have tiny headlights like that, because they dont exist. Those are fog/driving lights, not headlights.

Nothing like telling your friends that your racecar is so fast, it out-runs the headlights at 30mph.


About the optics, i'm trusting your word that they aren't anything out of the ordinary. But having a divided low and high beams has to be a plus so i can put the low beam correctly (realign after lowering the car) and be able to allign the high beam to a better position since i wouldn't only use them in extreme cases they wouldn't blind traffic from opposite direction. And to be sincere i want that lowered headlight look like the nsx and gt3000 but in NO way will i hack up a ebay headlight and just install any hid projector and don't care to use those supermade things with foglights either, at the moment NSX headlights are the best idea i've gotten, assuming i can position them correctly and align them correctly.

You dont need to trust my word, just think about it... the 1st-gen NSX lights were designed in the early 90s for a 90s-era car. They are expensive, fairly bulky, and simply wont fit into our cars without some heavy modification. I wont say impossible, I just wont say it would be proper when done.

You hear people say how good S2000 optics are. Whatever. I never found them to be anything special or holy. Just another HID projector.

Nowadays, there are a LOT of newer optics worth looking into. Many companies are now making LED versions of the 90mm low and high beam modules, it may be worth looking into.

I'm just one guy who happens to fab things up, I'm not the end-all fabricator. I think a lot of you guys can build something of quality as long as you dont cut corners. In the end, you'll probably find out how time consuming and expensive it is in the long run... but thats usually how things work out.

Do your research, you'll find newer/better/more modern components that will make your life a lot easier as opposed to trying to use old parts from an older sportscar. Besides..... the NSX is slow.

[Matej]

:)

http://irony.cc/media/image/auto/nissan/gatlin13.jpg

[bejota180sx]

ok, i didn't really research 90mm modules last time. I searched just for for "projectors" and always ended up at that retrofitsou.... site. Googled those exact words you said and came up with a few HELLA versions of them... picture from the site
http://www.myhellalights.com/files/2112/7655/5635/Slideshow_24.jpg

They have the option of bihalogen and bixenon which is good to know and also the LED headlights. those would give a much better lightouput as you said. They also have the carrier for them. But im still stuck on the same part of a OEM type bezel.

These would make the project much more worthwhile, even if you are going "sleepy" (i hate that name) headlights or flushmounted. But i would still want a oem surround around them or a crystal or DOT type cover for them if flush mounted.

A CAD would be simple enough to make for the surround and maybe even the crystal. But how to get them produced is where im stuck. Going to have to search if anyone on this island has the way of producing a design in plastic (in my case).

[bejota180sx]

:)

http://irony.cc/media/image/auto/nissan/gatlin13.jpg



that looks like i have a mini gun in place of my headlights... but the plastic/crystal cover is what im talking about in my previous post

[RedSiBaron]

ok, i didn't really search 90mm modules. I searched just for for "projectors" and always ended up at that retrofitsou.... site. Googled those exact words you said and came up with a few HELLA versions of them... picture from the site
http://www.myhellalights.com/files/2112/7655/5635/Slideshow_24.jpg

They have the option of bihalogen and bixenon which is good to know and also the LED headlights. those would give a much better lightouput as you said. They also have the carrier for them. But im still stuck on the same part of a OEM type bezel.

These would make the project much more worthwhile, even if you are going "sleepy" (i hate that name) headlights or flushmounted. But i would still want a oem surround around them or a crystal or DOT type cover for them if flush mounted.

A CAD would be simple enough to make for the surround and maybe even the crystal. But how to get them produced is where im stuck. Going to have to search if anyone on this island has the way of producing a design in plastic (in my case).

whats funny is I just went in search of what circular headlights I would use on this, and came to the conclusion of using the same DOT approved Hella modules used on the moss motors dual round headlights on the miatas.

the 90mm hellas were what I found.

basically id stick with these 2 one low and one high, or we could run two hi/lo bi-halogen and if someone wants bi-zenon, they can wire them up as well

HELLA 008191057 90mm 12V High Beam Halogen Headlamp Module : Amazon.com : Automotive (http://www.amazon.com/HELLA-008191057-Halogen-Headlamp-Module/dp/B000VU3DW6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1379007084&sr=8-2&keywords=hella+90mm)

and

Amazon.com: HELLA 008193027 90mm DE Series 12V Low Beam Halogen Headlamp Module: Automotive (http://www.amazon.com/HELLA-008193027-Series-Halogen-Headlamp/dp/B00062ZYNK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1379007084&sr=8-1&keywords=hella+90mm)

again, I AM NOT BUILDING ANYTHING BUT THE ABFLUG STYLE

[RedSiBaron]

followup. I have considered doing a machined simple lightweight manual aluminum pop up headlight mechanism that you would have to put up yourself for racing. I probably wont do that

[brndck]

Oh snap that reverse opening hood is dope!!! Those projectors look like they're from an F50 Q45

[bejota180sx]

i was thinking of one low one high, but would having two bi-xenon or bi-halogen (as in two lows to high beams) be acceptable? or is it just overkill. And i don't care for just one bi-xenon in the middle, same as when they retrofit projectors into the popups, they just look goofy... reminds me of a frog. And knowing in PR they call cars with pop-ups "sapito" or "frog" in english it just makes it even worse...

IXFXI care to share opinions on this? and answering a dumb question... is there really a big difference in the h7 and h1 and the classic vs performance? Or should Xenon lighting in these 90mm be a better option and forget about the halogens. based on this hella info http://www.hella.com/MicroSite/soe/sites/default/files/downloads/Brief_Information_90mmPerformance_EN.pdf

[ixfxi]

you guys keep messing with OLD stuff

NEW STUFF:
Hella Bi-LED 90mm Headlamp Module, Hi-Low Beam - RallyLights.com (http://www.rallylights.com/90bl-hella-bi-led-90mm-headlamp-module-hi-low-beam.html)
New 90mm LED Projector Headlights - Other - J.W. Speaker Corporation (http://www.jwspeaker.com/other/new-90mm-led-projector-headlights)
Hamsar introduces 90mm LED low beam projector headlamp: Fleet Equipment (http://www.fleetequipmentmag.com/Products/67193/hamsar_introduces_90mm_led_low_beam_projector_head lamp.aspx)

[Matej]

you guys keep messing with OLD stuff

NEW STUFF:
Hella Bi-LED 90mm Headlamp Module, Hi-Low Beam - RallyLights.com (http://www.rallylights.com/90bl-hella-bi-led-90mm-headlamp-module-hi-low-beam.html)
New 90mm LED Projector Headlights - Other - J.W. Speaker Corporation (http://www.jwspeaker.com/other/new-90mm-led-projector-headlights)
Hamsar introduces 90mm LED low beam projector headlamp: Fleet Equipment (http://www.fleetequipmentmag.com/Products/67193/hamsar_introduces_90mm_led_low_beam_projector_head lamp.aspx)
Do you think LED projectors will eventually replace HID projectors?

[ixfxi]

clock only moves forward

dont get me wrong, i still use and advocate using older tech as well. everything has its place in the world, pros and cons, etc

just saying, if you guys are going to do something... do it to 2014 standards, not my 2001 standards

[Brian]

clearcorners.com

The pinnacle of lighting.

[RedSiBaron]

you guys keep messing with OLD stuff

NEW STUFF:
Hella Bi-LED 90mm Headlamp Module, Hi-Low Beam - RallyLights.com (http://www.rallylights.com/90bl-hella-bi-led-90mm-headlamp-module-hi-low-beam.html)
New 90mm LED Projector Headlights - Other - J.W. Speaker Corporation (http://www.jwspeaker.com/other/new-90mm-led-projector-headlights)
Hamsar introduces 90mm LED low beam projector headlamp: Fleet Equipment (http://www.fleetequipmentmag.com/Products/67193/hamsar_introduces_90mm_led_low_beam_projector_head lamp.aspx)

I personally am going to use halogens, I like the simplicity and affordability of the unit. if im feeling frisky after spending thousands on the rest of my car, ill goto the LED setup. PLUS, they are DOT approved ;)


Do you think LED projectors will eventually replace HID projectors?

Already are moving that direction

clock only moves forward

dont get me wrong, i still use and advocate using older tech as well. everything has its place in the world, pros and cons, etc

just saying, if you guys are going to do something... do it to 2014 standards, not my 2001 standards

I like the old stuff :(

clearcorners.com

The pinnacle of lighting.

ha

[Matej]

Already are moving that direction
Good, because HID's are annoying, with all the extra wires and junk. :)

[CaptainVlad]

I would be interested in a set if this was ever made. I am a much bigger fan of the square style, rather than the 2 circles, though.

[RedSiBaron]

I would be interested in a set if this was ever made. I am a much bigger fan of the square style, rather than the 2 circles, though.

i may also do a square design, because im not sure which i like more myself. also the square may be cheaper.

in either case i plan to do a single bucket, so it will work with both. worst case scenario is i dont trim out the holes for one on yours and you just pay for the lens buckets and mounting hardware and you just have to cut and mount your own squares...

We arent there yet so we'll cross that bridge when we do.



guys im just waiting to get my car back from getting the cage put in, then i can 3d scan the front end and get the information i need to start modeling these.

[PeaceOnesxWai]

^if you do happen to 3d scan your car, would you share the file? Would save my cad guy some time and immediately hop on to some parts design.

[RedSiBaron]

^if you do happen to 3d scan your car, would you share the file? Would save my cad guy some time and immediately hop on to some parts design.

3d scanning takes a lot of time, what exactly do you need scanned. I was planning on freely sharing the files as they are produced as every company out there developing parts for the s13 cant afford scanning time, and figured it would help the parts development for everyone.

[CaptainVlad]

Any update?

[RedSiBaron]

Any update?

Nope.

car is still getting the cage and chassis work done. well technically its done, I just need to clear room for my fathers new racecar in his garage (which is currently living in his trailer), which means moving his other racecar shell from his garage to his messy barn.

soooo hopefully this weekend after I help him clean out his barn, I can then borrow his trailer to go pick up MY CAR, and take it back to my place and use the 3d scanner from work to get working on it.


Long story short, I'm waiting on my fathers trailer to be empty to move my car from the shop back to my house so I can 3d scan it and build the new headlights in the computer.


so don't worry, I havn't forgotten about this, just want to do it as right as possible the first time to ensure the best fit and finish for everyone. The fewer number of prototypes the lower the initial cost.

[CaptainVlad]

This ever going to happen?

A guy over on NissanRoadRacing had a friend who came very close to finishing these. From what I recall him telling me, all he needed was the lens covers themselves. If you are serious about actually making these, I can give you his name so you can PM him. (the friend of the guy, idk who the actual guy making them is)

[mechanicalmoron]

http://shirtstuckedin.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/JapanSupermadeD1.jpg

^ this is the reason people are stupid, they like things that look "bitchin" but work like total shit. There is a reason cars dont have tiny headlights like that, because they dont exist. Those are fog/driving lights, not headlights.

Nothing like telling your friends that your racecar is so fast, it out-runs the headlights at 30mph.




You dont need to trust my word, just think about it... the 1st-gen NSX lights were designed in the early 90s for a 90s-era car. They are expensive, fairly bulky, and simply wont fit into our cars without some heavy modification. I wont say impossible, I just wont say it would be proper when done.

You hear people say how good S2000 optics are. Whatever. I never found them to be anything special or holy. Just another HID projector.

Nowadays, there are a LOT of newer optics worth looking into. Many companies are now making LED versions of the 90mm low and high beam modules, it may be worth looking into.

I'm just one guy who happens to fab things up, I'm not the end-all fabricator. I think a lot of you guys can build something of quality as long as you dont cut corners. In the end, you'll probably find out how time consuming and expensive it is in the long run... but thats usually how things work out.

Do your research, you'll find newer/better/more modern components that will make your life a lot easier as opposed to trying to use old parts from an older sportscar. Besides..... the NSX is slow.

Well, my s13 outruns the crooked sealed beams at 30. So, it might be an even trade.

Nevertheless, I don't get why people think that shit looks good. Supermade lights look somewhat worse than driving around with a pair of steaming cow turds sitting on your bumper.

[RedSiBaron]

This ever going to happen?

A guy over on NissanRoadRacing had a friend who came very close to finishing these. From what I recall him telling me, all he needed was the lens covers themselves. If you are serious about actually making these, I can give you his name so you can PM him. (the friend of the guy, idk who the actual guy making them is)

Ya it is actually going to happen, it takes time to do shit. especially when you dont have the car to work off. I still dont have my car back from getting the cage put in, and thats over an hour and a half away. so when i get it back i have to trailer it all the way to my work on the weekend and then i have to scan the car. then i can get started on it. doing my best to speed up the process but i cannot control the actions of others.

you can pm him if you want. I dont know what he will have that will be useful to me but im open to it if it is.

[mr.nismo.]

If your good at working lexan to mold my hat off to you. I got so pissed after many failed attempts I just did this
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g398/dev71893/IMG_1060_zps86b045b1.jpg
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g398/dev71893/IMG_1056_zps1d1b9318.jpg

[sleepyS14se]

Looks like the bastard child of a 300zx

ding ding ding WE GOT A WINNER!!!!!:aw::aw::aw:

[CaptainVlad]

Any news on this?

[RedSiBaron]

nope, nothing new...its still going to happen, i just haven't gotten to this point in my build yet, so i have other priorities. I am sorry about the delay but its going to be a second. i'll get to it eventually

[Mikey McFly]

I had a pair of Abflug (round, not Veilside squared) headlights. First off, I got mine for $800, so if someone makes a knock off for more, you might as well team up with ClearCorners in the selling hella over priced lighting business. Two, for some insight, the Abflug lights were a bucket that drops in without modification to the radiator support. Attatched to the bucket was a bracket that held the lights with springs on all eight screws so you can properly align your lights. They also had a foam strip around the edge between the plastic and the bucket.

I've actually been drafting up a pair of these when I've been having spare time. Coming close, just need the motivation to start making the mold and laying the glass down.

[RedSiBaron]

I had a pair of Abflug (round, not Veilside squared) headlights. First off, I got mine for $800, so if someone makes a knock off for more, you might as well team up with ClearCorners in the selling hella over priced lighting business. Two, for some insight, the Abflug lights were a bucket that drops in without modification to the radiator support. Attatched to the bucket was a bracket that held the lights with springs on all eight screws so you can properly align your lights. They also had a foam strip around the edge between the plastic and the bucket.

I've actually been drafting up a pair of these when I've been having spare time. Coming close, just need the motivation to start making the mold and laying the glass down.

I'm not planning on making something that is too expensive. if it turns out the cost will be too much, I'll do a single run group buy for those looking to get a set and that will just be whatever it costs for the tooling and materials.

Honestly, no matter what the price, i'll probably just do a group buy or two because i have stuff to do, not sell headlights at a small profit.


Ya, there should be zero reason to modify the radiator support, and I wasn't planning on that being part of the design. I want something bolt in.

Also, I will be doing something a little more weather proof than foam for between the bucket and the lens. just not sure what that will be yet.

[CaptainVlad]

I was really hoping this would happen... hopefully it still does.

[TurboDaytona]

End on year bump. I would love a pair of these housings. Is there any help you would need that someone in this thread can contribute?

[CaptainVlad]

He hasn't logged on since February, safe to assume this isn't happening....

[ehhhregartless]

They can look cool

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5298/5466878185_45d2db2d57_b.jpg
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5136/5466876033_4a2da70fd3_b.jpg

[Matej]

It would be cool to have ones that have the stock pop-up headlight covers on them during the day, and at night one could just pop the covers off.

[ehhhregartless]

That's kind of how it is? https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5132/5415484522_ac5b3e9ce6_b.jpg

[Bushido]

the phillips screws make these look so cheap.

[ixfxi]

the phillips screws make these look so cheap.



as opposed to the zip tie holding the fender on...

...and the cut hose that is used as a bump stop to shim the hood higher up?

[Silvermonkey520]

Any updates? Haha

[TurboDaytona]

I know I am waiting. Gladman performance currently has a Sleepy Eye projector headlight set up that is pretty cheap, I wonder if they would be interested in making the style of headlights in both sealed beam and projector. I might shoot them an email.

[spray2020]

Streeter's setup looks pretty nice in my opinion, with the sealed beam looks more period correct.

http://photos-a.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xap1/t51.2885-15/10809483_727421470677688_1104422750_n.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/it066yen/streeter%201.png (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/it066yen/media/streeter%201.png.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/it066yen/streeter%202.png (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/it066yen/media/streeter%202.png.html)

[ehhhregartless]

That's a winner

[ixfxi]

it wouldnt be zilvia if you guys were not drooling off of ill fitting, poor performing products.

[Future240]

it wouldnt be zilvia if you guys were not drooling off of ill fitting, poor performing products.

I nearly spit out my drink.

Serioulsy though, I have not seen a single picture in this thread where these lights did not look cheap and fit like crap.

The shape of the nose of the S13 IMO seems like these type of lights wouldn't flow with the look of the car. Id prefer lights that look like they could be oem. All of these just scream "luk at muh race carrrr"

[silviaks2nr]

http://auto.samondeo.com/images1/chevrolet-beretta-gt-28-5.jpg

[ixfxi]

The worst part about you guys doing, or in this case talking about doing stuff like this, is that none of the headlights posted are high-performance solutions. like the above photo, you guys are downgrading to chevy lumina lighting performance level.. cool!

if you guys actually spent some time and a lot of money, you could use high quality LED optics that are readily available nowadays. not this antiquated cheap shit that looks semi-cool in dry weather to highschool kids. once the rain hits, that shit is going to look like a humid fish tank.

if you guys have brains, use them.

[CaptainVlad]

Or maybe people like me like how they look and dont give a crap about how they will work. The only time i pull my car out the garage is to either have a fun drive with it, or go to a road course....the hell do i care how they will perform in the rain or light up the road of my city where it just always looks like day time.....

[ehhhregartless]

^pretty much. Many people here don't daily their car or live in rural areas where headlights are something you rely on. And Mikey likes it.

http://cdn.speedhunters.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Battle-Evome-1-13-055.jpg

[CaptainVlad]

That car is the main reason why i want those lights.

[ixfxi]

Or maybe people like me like how they look and dont give a crap about how they will work. The only time i pull my car out the garage is to either have a fun drive with it, or go to a road course....the hell do i care how they will perform in the rain or light up the road of my city where it just always looks like day time.....

sorry

once again i mistook zilvia for a forum where people care about performance.

my bad

[deolio]

watching jesse streeter's streeting videos make it look like they have decent light output and they look like they fit good on that white 180 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[GGTheSeventh]

I have a set right now, but my lens is destroyed. Do you guys know any options on whom would happen to make a set?

[spray2020]

The worst part about you guys doing, or in this case talking about doing stuff like this, is that none of the headlights posted are high-performance solutions. like the above photo, you guys are downgrading to chevy lumina lighting performance level.. cool!


Unless we are talking silvia projectors, which the light output on those stock is still horrible - All other s13's had pop ups, with a sealed beam. So switching to these allows enthusiasts to keep the pop up front end and "aesthetically upgrade" to a more aerodynamic look, with the choice of using projectors, sealed beam units, led units etc. Maybe the enthusiasts here on zilvia might not be the brightest, but I would say in terms getting the style right on these cars, Zilvia guys know that putting projectors in pop up's just looks wrong!

[CaptainVlad]

sorry

once again i mistook zilvia for a forum where people care about performance.

my bad


Yeah, because some headlights with better output will make me drop lap times, right?

[spray2020]

Any of those who are still interested in a set of these, I have good news. I decided to buy the set that was just up for sale with intentions to make a mold of them.

The only downside is that the original IPF square headlamps inside are obviously discontinued.

So I am trying to find a good replacement light to use for the reproductions I make. Hopefully something similar in size but can offer better light output. Maybe PIAA?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/it066yen/IMG_2410.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/it066yen/media/IMG_2410.jpg.html)

[CaptainVlad]

Check out what hella has to offer

[95_S14]

Any of those who are still interested in a set of these, I have good news. I decided to buy the set that was just up for sale with intentions to make a mold of them.

The only downside is that the original IPF square headlamps inside are obviously discontinued.

So I am trying to find a good replacement light to use for the reproductions I make. Hopefully something similar in size but can offer better light output. Maybe PIAA?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/it066yen/IMG_2410.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/it066yen/media/IMG_2410.jpg.html)
Price for just the housings when you are done , pm me when you finish them

[brndck]

Any of those who are still interested in a set of these, I have good news. I decided to buy the set that was just up for sale with intentions to make a mold of them.

The only downside is that the original IPF square headlamps inside are obviously discontinued.

So I am trying to find a good replacement light to use for the reproductions I make. Hopefully something similar in size but can offer better light output. Maybe PIAA?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/it066yen/IMG_2410.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/it066yen/media/IMG_2410.jpg.html)
I've gone as far as trying to contact IPF to get part numbers. they have no idea what I'm talking about, even when I've sent photos of the lights. are there any part numbers on the lights on your set?

[spray2020]

I've gone as far as trying to contact IPF to get part numbers. they have no idea what I'm talking about, even when I've sent photos of the lights. are there any part numbers on the lights on your set?

IPF model number is 8551, but trust me I already asked them at their Japan office and they no longer make them. They told me they were made for a very short time long long ago.

These Hella Micro ff fog/driving lamps are the closest in size to the ipf's. They are bottom mount, but if you remove that and side mount them using the screws into the black plastic then they will work. Alternatively you could put something more modern in them, but I think they look really cool with simple lamps inside

http://www.myhellalights.com/index.php/products/auxiliary-lamps/halogen-lamps/micro-ff-series/

Cheapest I found for a pair of those is here, $65 for 2, and you would need 2 sets.

http://www.autoaccessoriesgarage.com/Lighting/Hella-Micro-FF-Series-Light-Kit?utm_source=google&utm_medium=Lighting&utm_campaign=GoogleProducts&utm_term=Hella-Micro-FF-Series-Light-Kit&gclid=Cj0KEQiA3t-2BRCKivi-suDY24gBEiQAX1wiXGjtWgOSAsOFUf94sSsbXsHa8qn5VJtMbM 4OCoTYR_kaAqBe8P8HAQ

[Maximum]

lets just make replicas of everything why don't we.

[brndck]

lets just make replicas of everything why don't we.

lets just provide something that isn't available, that there is a demand for, without charging an arm, a leg, and both nuts.

[dorkidori_s13]

lets just make replicas of everything why don't we.

lets just act like purists like it was 2002 when all of these parts were brand new and still obtainable by normal means.

get over it! ive never seen such a bunch of unappreciative whiners ever! never mind that the aftermarket reproduction industry for restoration and discontinued parts is a multibillion dollar industry and is utilized in every single car "scene" out there with no ill means intentions.

funny how no one complains about buying "replicas" when purchasing or needing replacement mechanical parts for their engines, suspension or electronics from autozone, oreilys, meyers or even the factory dealership... ITS THE SAME INDUSTRY!!!

PS: if you want to be a purist and complain about people "ruining the scene" by replicating discontinued aero parts, perhaps you should get off your high horse and go look at whats going on over in Japan! guess what kiddies, the scene ruining replicas are happening over there as well because of the same reason its happening here, supply in demand due to time, obscurity and people destroying damn near all of the originals because of drifting/racing.

[ehhhregartless]

Together everyone achieves more

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d78/ki_JDM_ds/ZWhip/6f3929d8.jpg

[95_S14]

lets just make replicas of everything why don't we.

New member , and Florida ....... We can say it's safe to say this guys a dumbass

[Gingersmurf]

lets just provide something that isn't available, that there is a demand for, without charging an arm, a leg, and both nuts.

Id be happy if they only charged one nut. At least Lance Armstrong still has game

[Maximum]

lets just act like purists like it was 2002 when all of these parts were brand new and still obtainable by normal means.

get over it! ive never seen such a bunch of unappreciative whiners ever! never mind that the aftermarket reproduction industry for restoration and discontinued parts is a multibillion dollar industry and is utilized in every single car "scene" out there with no ill means intentions.

funny how no one complains about buying "replicas" when purchasing or needing replacement mechanical parts for their engines, suspension or electronics from autozone, oreilys, meyers or even the factory dealership... ITS THE SAME INDUSTRY!!!

PS: if you want to be a purist and complain about people "ruining the scene" by replicating discontinued aero parts, perhaps you should get off your high horse and go look at whats going on over in Japan! guess what kiddies, the scene ruining replicas are happening over there as well because of the same reason its happening here, supply in demand due to time, obscurity and people destroying damn near all of the originals because of drifting/racing.

no, its just a pathetic attempt at "i wannnnnnnnnna be part of coooooooool guy group"

Without actually spending money or time to find parts. This is why the replica business flourishes.

[CaptainVlad]

I'm glad there is finally some momentum on this again. Ive been waiting since this was created to see this happening, and its finally looking to be somewhat realistic...

[brndck]

no, its just a pathetic attempt at "i wannnnnnnnnna be part of coooooooool guy group"

Without actually spending money or time to find parts. This is why the replica business flourishes.

right. i'll continue to spend my money on QUALITY, and you can continue helping justify floridas reputation. :picardfp:

[mr.nismo.]

This thread is great [emoji23]


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[dorkidori_s13]

no, its just a pathetic attempt at "i wannnnnnnnnna be part of coooooooool guy group"

Without actually spending money or time to find parts. This is why the replica business flourishes.

the sheer ignorance in your responses just AMAZES me... the reason why replica business flourishes is because parts go extinct! mechanical, exterior, interior etc! and its not a matter of being "part of the cool group" as you so stated, its building a goddamn car and actually wanting to finish it using QUALITY REPLICA PARTS OF THINGS THAT DONT REALLY EXIST ANYMORE!

if the part is made to the same quality if not better of the original, then thats one thing. if youre buying cheap chinese knock offs that fit like shit and require 10x more work, plus made of inferior quality materials then thats what drives things down.

[brndck]

if the part is made to the same quality if not better of the original, then thats one thing. if youre buying cheap chinese knock offs that fit like shit and require 10x more work, plus made of inferior quality materials then thats what drives things down.

THIS. If someone copies a TE37 but makes it better and stronger and lighter than Volk does, i'll buy that in a heartbeat.

[Maximum]

pointless argument, good luck with these, interested to see how they turn out!

[5280VertDET]

pointless argument, good luck with these, interested to see how they turn out!

http://c.fastcompany.net/multisite_files/fastcompany/imagecache/inline-large/post/inline-image/tumblr_mxx24a7wMc1qa3pfso1_400.gif

[KAT-PWR]

the sheer ignorance in your responses just AMAZES me... the reason why replica business flourishes is because parts go extinct! mechanical, exterior, interior etc! and its not a matter of being "part of the cool group" as you so stated, its building a goddamn car and actually wanting to finish it using QUALITY REPLICA PARTS OF THINGS THAT DONT REALLY EXIST ANYMORE!

if the part is made to the same quality if not better of the original, then thats one thing. if youre buying cheap chinese knock offs that fit like shit and require 10x more work, plus made of inferior quality materials then thats what drives things down.

At the end of the day, the legit stamped part is and always will be the "coolest". Forcing yourself to buy an original at a crazy price many times is for fuckboy egotistical reasons, not because it's your favorite style, or you're passionate about said parts.
See; Some off y'all rock XXR's and Rotas then get real wheels and delete all the pictures of when you used to rock the rep wheels....but that's none of my business.
If there is a QUALITY replica of an aero part that fits as good as OEM and costs significantly less and is the style you want, buy it! The problem is the pandemic that is SHITTY knock off parts that fit like garbage then people change like they're shot callers
*DUMPSTER DIMENSIONS*

[brndck]

If there is a QUALITY replica of an aero part that fits as good as OEM and costs significantly less and is the style you want, buy it! The problem is the pandemic that is SHITTY knock off parts that fit like garbage.
*DUMPSTER DIMENSIONS*

AMEN!!!!

Dumpster cars are terrible. Don't let your friends drive them.

[spray2020]

Here is a rough prototype 3d print of the light. I was going to make a mold of the originals but I thought this method would be good if people want them to fit different lights inside etc.

Will update again with a more refined prototype.

i'll be posting updates on my instagram, if you want to follow via your phone. @casale_design

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/it066yen/IMG_2824.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/it066yen/media/IMG_2824.jpg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/it066yen/IMG_2823.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/it066yen/media/IMG_2823.jpg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/it066yen/IMG_2826.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/it066yen/media/IMG_2826.jpg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/it066yen/IMG_2825.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/it066yen/media/IMG_2825.jpg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/it066yen/IMG_2827.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/it066yen/media/IMG_2827.jpg.html)

[ehhhregartless]

That is way more legit than I thought it would be

[RB25GUY]

man, nice work if this is a rough rough copy im sure once you get the protoype down they will look just as good as the originals!

[koukimonst3r]

Can't wait until this is all said and done.

[bboyoracle]

spray2020's work is legit! Looking forward to see the completed version.

[Black R]

What's the estimated price now?

[spray2020]

What's the estimated price now?


Before even thinking about that, I am more concerned about which lights should be used inside. Since the original IPF lights are no longer made in that size, the only other light that would fit are these Hella Micro FF fog, to get two of them in there.

L: 120mm by about H: 86mm is the size needed to fit two square lights in there- the depth doesnt matter as much.

http://www.myhellalights.com/files/3212/7638/1246/H12133011-dia.gif
http://www.myhellalights.com/files/6312/7638/1245/H12133011-pri.png

http://www.tirerack.com/lighting/detail.jsp?gclid=CjwKEAjw55K4BRC53L6x9pyDzl4SJAD_2 1V1Riwp1coWm72CQuFVaqwvt5jXWt6pUVh0Xcxhco-UsxoCsPDw_wcB&ID=1192&make=Hella&partnum=H007133801&GCID=C13674x012-accessories&KEYWORD=accessories_Hella_Micro_FF_Rectangular_Fog _Lamp_Kit&code=yes&autoMake=Ford&autoModel=Sport+Trac+XLT&autoYear=2007&checkVehicle=&autoModClar=4wd&src=17540115&ci_sku=H007133801&ci_sku=H007133801&ci_src=17588969&ef_id=VU5WFAAABc1A951R:20160406163353:s

two of these are $130, so 4 total would be $260 plus shipping. That would just be for the lights inside...

Anyone have any other options of square type lights to fit?

[brndck]

L: 120mm by about H: 86mm is the size needed to fit two square lights in there- the depth doesnt matter as much

120mm is almost 5" wide. No way you're squeezing two of those in this housing.

I found a LED option I was considering, lemme see if I can find a link.

[spray2020]

120mm is almost 5" wide. No way you're squeezing two of those in this housing.

I found a LED option I was considering, lemme see if I can find a link.

Actually, they will fit as the original IPF lights are exactly that size, 120mm width!

So anything else will not fill up the space inside as well. Keep in mind the lights are mounted offset, one more forward then the other one.

[silviaks2nr]

Don't use fog lights.

[spray2020]

Don't use fog lights.

The ones hella makes come in 2 styles, one with a reflector cap over the bulb ( fog) and the other without ( driving light) - not sure if it is too bright for street use? Made for offroad trucks.

Im open to any other ideas, led lights or similar.

[silviaks2nr]

hella 90mm are the best bet but they are round. They have a BI LED version which you could use as low/high and then a rectangular light for spot beam, flood, or fog on the inside of the light.

[Black R]

Just sell me the housing and I'll put my own lights in there.

Why not use an H4 bulb? I think that's the one - it's low and high beam in one.

And you can source them pretty cheaply in HID or LED.

[Black R]

hella 90mm are the best bet but they are round. They have a BI LED version which you could use as low/high and then a rectangular light for spot beam, flood, or fog on the inside of the light.

That sounds great.

[RB25GUY]

hella 90mm are the best bet but they are round. They have a BI LED version which you could use as low/high and then a rectangular light for spot beam, flood, or fog on the inside of the light.

Well after some thought, i realized after watching the historic races held at laguna seca the Chevy Monza headlights (4x6) and are almost identical in shape to these ipf lights and way cheaper then the hella lights i think i am on to something!


http://blog.hemmings.com/wp-content/uploads//2015/08/1975ChevroletMonza_01_1000-700x421.jpg

[silviaks2nr]

They are also about 2x too large and will be poor performing.

[5280VertDET]

http://img.vast.com/320x240/-1839313053266872670

http://www.1aauto.com/headlight/i/1alhl00910?f=262440&y=1996

[RB25GUY]

They are also about 2x too large and will be poor performing.

yea i thought they were smaller you right

[ellopuppet]

http://cdn.roughcountry.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/392x260/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/l/i/lights-2-inch-led-square_70903a-base.jpg

Clicky (http://www.roughcountry.com/2-inch-led-square-lights-70903.html?gclid=Cj0KEQjwipi4BRD7t6zGl6m75IgBEiQAn 7CfF2CZOrKR0TAhtlu6voGEIrQ6aGY7c6Bby9bcoPqxPIgaAhy M8P8HAQ)

What about these? They seem to project a good ways in the supplied video.

[RB25GUY]

http://cdn.roughcountry.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/392x260/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/l/i/lights-2-inch-led-square_70903a-base.jpg

Clicky (http://www.roughcountry.com/2-inch-led-square-lights-70903.html?gclid=Cj0KEQjwipi4BRD7t6zGl6m75IgBEiQAn 7CfF2CZOrKR0TAhtlu6voGEIrQ6aGY7c6Bby9bcoPqxPIgaAhy M8P8HAQ)

What about these? They seem to project a good ways in the supplied video.

doubt they are DOT approved

[brndck]

doubt they are DOT approved

doubt any of us give a fuck (except ixfxi mike), since the whole "aftermarket headlight" thing isn't DOT approved anyways
:picardfp::picardfp::picardfp:

[silviaks2nr]

You need a functional low/high beam. Those are just flood or spot lights... You will not find a low/high beam replacement that's small and rectangular. My suggestion with the hella or other bixenon or bi-led projector along with a rectangular fog or driving light on the inside still stands.

[RB25GUY]

doubt any of us give a fuck (except ixfxi mike), since the whole "aftermarket headlight" thing isn't DOT approved anyways
:picardfp::picardfp::picardfp:

Honestly in NY around where im from cops would rape you for that...

[spray2020]

You need a functional low/high beam. Those are just flood or spot lights... You will not find a low/high beam replacement that's small and rectangular. My suggestion with the hella or other bixenon or bi-led projector along with a rectangular fog or driving light on the inside still stands.

I think this is the best idea.

However, the housings and covers can just be sold without lights and the customer can choose what they want to put in there.

[ixfxi]

the outcome of this project is doomed

just like the NSX headlight conversion, doomed

[spray2020]

the outcome of this project is doomed

just like the NSX headlight conversion, doomed

I posted a full size prototype already but its doomed? ok, if you say so haha

Anyhow- regarding silviaks2nr's lighting thought - which actually would give a s13 decent lowbeam light output, I did a quick chop on Streeters 180 to get an idea of how it could look. Of course the two square lights look rad, but why not improve its functionality and still look good.

original photo w/ his abflug light

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/it066yen/Screen%20Shot%202016-04-07%20at%205.12.59%20pm.png (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/it066yen/media/Screen%20Shot%202016-04-07%20at%205.12.59%20pm.png.html)

chopped with a projector on the outside for low/high and a rectangular fog on the inside.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/it066yen/abflug%20with%20projector.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/it066yen/media/abflug%20with%20projector.jpg.html)

[silviaks2nr]

Jw speaker also makes a 90mm bi-led sealed projector unit. I have no personal experience with it but the light distribution and beam pattern look pretty good from images I saw.

[ixfxi]

two of these are $130, so 4 total would be $260 plus shipping. That would just be for the lights inside... Anyone have any other options of square type lights to fit?

I posted a full size prototype already but its doomed? ok, if you say so haha

I dont claim to have much knowledge in the lighting industry, so take my comments with a grain of salt. But the minute you started posting links to "driving lights" is when you lost me, 3d printer or not. I actually like the work you did with the 3d printer, though. But, the housing is just a housing, its a box that supports lights. The type of light you choose should have been your primary goal: finding a proper headlight. I highly doubt you will find many high quality solutions, especially given that the common 240 owner has severe budget constraints.

This is an uphill battle. Not impossible, just improbable. I would have more faith if the poster ^ above me said he was building this, I would say that there is a much higher chance of success. But still, end product will have very high costs in addition to other issues that plague headlights of this design.

[spray2020]

I dont claim to have much knowledge in the lighting industry, so take my comments with a grain of salt. But the minute you started posting links to "driving lights" is when you lost me, 3d printer or not. I actually like the work you did with the 3d printer, though. But, the housing is just a housing, its a box that supports lights. The type of light you choose should have been your primary goal: finding a proper headlight. I highly doubt you will find many high quality solutions, especially given that the common 240 owner has severe budget constraints.

This is an uphill battle. Not impossible, just improbable. I would have more faith if the poster ^ above me said he was building this, I would say that there is a much higher chance of success. But still, end product will have very high costs in addition to other issues that plague headlights of this design.

I agree with you, I am not a lighting specialist in anyway haha. But I decided to give these a try because I knew the #1 reason why people like them (including Jesse Streeter) is for Style points, not for functionality. That is why I was looking at driving lights, as they would give a similar "[_][_]______[_][_]" look.

I dont think the fixed headlight should be used as a base for greater headlight visibility. Just use Raybrigs on the standard pop-ups and they will be better then any of these fixed housings.

Those who would just want the housings and covers alone, I can do that.

[Phlip]

Watching to see if this pans out this time.

[mogli9000]

http://img.vast.com/320x240/-1839313053266872670

http://www.1aauto.com/headlight/i/1alhl00910?f=262440&y=1996

Second this notion pending headlight dimensions.

[brndck]

these were the ones I had seen that I think would best fit the size constraints
http://www.amazon.com/HELLA-H71020501-Optilux-4-LED-Spot/dp/B00JRYH50I?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_sfl_title_1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

http://www.amazon.com/HELLA-H71020401-Optilux-LED/dp/B00HHHWS4A?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_sfl_title_2&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

or some like this

http://www.ebay.com/itm/131380801708?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

again, this was SIZE CONSTRAINTS only, not lighting output, or "legality", JUST SIZE.

Its been hammered to death, that this is not the best direction to go for lighting output. These kind of headlight housings are for style primarily.

[ixfxi]

I agree with you, I am not a lighting specialist in anyway haha. But I decided to give these a try because I knew the #1 reason why people like them (including Jesse Streeter) is for Style points, not for functionality. That is why I was looking at driving lights, as they would give a similar "[_][_]______[_][_]" look.

I dont think the fixed headlight should be used as a base for greater headlight visibility. Just use Raybrigs on the standard pop-ups and they will be better then any of these fixed housings.

Those who would just want the housings and covers alone, I can do that.

jesse who? fuck man, dont you idiots catch sarcasm at all.

you're building a custom headlight enclosure so that you can see LESS than stock? for fucks sake. might as well just strap 2 of these fuckers in there and call it a day:
http://singlepalm.com/content/images/thumbs/0000828_maglite-d-cell-led-red.jpeg

style points. next time i rub one out i am going to shoot for style points.

[spray2020]

jesse who? fuck man, dont you idiots catch sarcasm at all.

you're building a custom headlight enclosure so that you can see LESS than stock? for fucks sake. might as well just strap 2 of these fuckers in there and call it a day:
http://singlepalm.com/content/images/thumbs/0000828_maglite-d-cell-led-red.jpeg

style points. next time i rub one out i am going to shoot for style points.

Jesse, Jesse Streeter.

[driftminds13]

I posted a full size prototype already but its doomed? ok, if you say so haha

Anyhow- regarding silviaks2nr's lighting thought - which actually would give a s13 decent lowbeam light output, I did a quick chop on Streeters 180 to get an idea of how it could look. Of course the two square lights look rad, but why not improve its functionality and still look good.

original photo w/ his abflug light

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/it066yen/Screen%20Shot%202016-04-07%20at%205.12.59%20pm.png (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/it066yen/media/Screen%20Shot%202016-04-07%20at%205.12.59%20pm.png.html)

chopped with a projector on the outside for low/high and a rectangular fog on the inside.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/it066yen/abflug%20with%20projector.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/it066yen/media/abflug%20with%20projector.jpg.html)

I like the direction this is going! Obviously lighting output is put behind fitment, most of us know how horrible the visibility with brick headlights are... As long as they look good, lights fit, and it has somewhat decent lighting I'm in for a pair.

[Matej]

might as well just strap 2 of these fuckers in there and call it a day:
http://singlepalm.com/content/images/thumbs/0000828_maglite-d-cell-led-red.jpeg
This would be so Hoonigan.

[CaptainVlad]

Im personally not digging the stuff posted so far, especially the rendering. I like these lights as made by the original designer. Please don't stray far away from that design and make something ugly...

[spray2020]

Im personally not digging the stuff posted so far, especially the rendering. I like these lights as made by the original designer. Please don't stray far away from that design and make something ugly...

based on this, I still think it would be best to let the customer decide what they want to put inside.

[mr.nismo.]

Why's the housing so thick? I'm sure you could thin it up and get more room to put lights that will have a good pattern in there


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[ixfxi]

Jesse, Jesse Streeter.

0 fucks given

If you're going to do this, build it with some lights that fucking work. Otherwise, you might as well shove some decorative LED christmas ornaments in a fish tank and call it a day

[CaptainVlad]

Theres too many people commenting on this that have no intention to buy. If there was a pre buy I would be willing to pay if it was what I wanted on my car. This seems to be common in the s chassis scene today. Everyone has an opinion, a question, and so on...but they have no intention to ever buy stuff. This is why I also absolutely HATE when I have to sell parts. If I had a dollar for every flake, window shopper, and so on, I would be rich.

[JC831]

Willing to buy a set. Followed you on ig. Im ready when they are

[3411]

Has any one looked at newer mdx headlights ?

[spray2020]

I will be test fitting the original housings and my 3d printed housing tomorrow on someones hatch. Will update photos soon.

I have decided that I can always modify my model for other lights, but my main goal is to get some projectors into these housings as they functionally serve a purpose.

If you dont want projectors, thats fine- I can remake the model to fit the bolt pattern of whatever kind of light you want to put in there.

[spray2020]

Did some test fitting of the original abflug housings, and also the 3d printed housing.

I had a fellow enthusiast kindly let me use his car to test fit, as my coupe is kind of messed up on the front. His car is pretty straight from what I can see, so it was a good test.

The original abflug lights didn't really fit that great, they could fit much better - which meant that my 3d printed housing was also off. Not horrible but not the best.

Also decided that I will be ordering some Morimoto mini square projectors to fit inside. I think these should be nice, and I can design some shrouds that enhance the square shape.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/it066yen/IMG_3050.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/it066yen/media/IMG_3050.jpg.html)
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/it066yen/IMG_3055.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/it066yen/media/IMG_3055.jpg.html)
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/it066yen/IMG_3065.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/it066yen/media/IMG_3065.jpg.html)
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/it066yen/IMG_3074.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/it066yen/media/IMG_3074.jpg.html)

The owner of the car did some photoshop ideas, I thought this one looked interesting. Kind of like vw gti type lights inside, or similar.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/it066yen/IMG_3076.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/it066yen/media/IMG_3076.jpg.html)

Morimoto mini bi-xenon square d2s projectors:

http://www.vleds.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/imageBig/900x/17f82f742ffe127f42dca9de82fb58b1/m/o/morimoto_mini_d2s_3.0_bi-xenon_projectors_7.jpg

[Trinidrift3]

in for updates. spray always delivers

[AscendaShogun]

Bump, its only been a year ._. lol

[turtl631]

Ha, I'd be interested. Probably make my own otherwise.

[Bushido]

can I buy these yet?

[spray2020]

Here is my progress, I haven't really posted up much on here since I started. I mostly post on instagram.

I have re-done the prototype, with a bolt on upper bracket that is adjustable. Also snap on shrouds for the mini square morimoto projectors.

The problem I am having with everything is clearance. There is much much space for the projectors to fit and be adjusted- sans why I had to cut an opening in the core support for them to pass through. My goal is to not have to cut away any area that cuts away the factory mounting points for the pop-ups down below. However with the tight clearance, I had to cut away a lot around the upper mounting which basically turned that area into a thin strip. Granted I know that some people have tube front ends and would disregard this.

I am still working on them, but with other projects I am working on.. like a full custom sema car- this takes time to progress on.

Initial prototype pics off the car (before I printed the rear housing)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/it066yen/IMG_6192.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/it066yen/media/IMG_6192.jpg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/it066yen/IMG_6190.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/it066yen/media/IMG_6190.jpg.html)
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/it066yen/IMG_6425.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/it066yen/media/IMG_6425.jpg.html)

This is how the core support was cut (mind, my core support was damaged before, so I didn't mind cutting it. 89' coupe)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/it066yen/IMG_6586.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/it066yen/media/IMG_6586.jpg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/it066yen/IMG_6588.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/it066yen/media/IMG_6588.jpg.html)

Fitted from the front:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/it066yen/IMG_6597.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/it066yen/media/IMG_6597.jpg.html)
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/it066yen/IMG_6415.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/it066yen/media/IMG_6415.jpg.html)

Pics with the rear housing, and the shroud projector cut shorter (no need for the extra material as it isn't seen)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/it066yen/IMG_7707.png (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/it066yen/media/IMG_7707.png.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/it066yen/IMG_7705.png (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/it066yen/media/IMG_7705.png.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/it066yen/IMG_7706.png (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/it066yen/media/IMG_7706.png.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/it066yen/IMG_7708.png (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/it066yen/media/IMG_7708.png.html)

[supersayianjim]

fucking neato!!!

[Bushido]

It looks like the design is almost finalized.

Please let me know as soon as a finished product is ready to purchase.

[silviaks2nr]

Your projectors are upside down.

[spray2020]

fucking neato!!!

Thanks

It looks like the design is almost finalized.

Please let me know as soon as a finished product is ready to purchase.

kind of, i'm still working on them!

Your projectors are upside down.

Thanks for pointing that out, I honestly wasn't sure as I haven't illuminated them yet! Easy that I can just flip them around.

[tuzzio]

I can't wait to see them with covers on them. They'll look badass. Maybe finally these shitboxes will have efficient lighting

[ArtofSpeed]

Interested in a set

[s13silvia123]

Thanks



kind of, i'm still working on them!



Thanks for pointing that out, I honestly wasn't sure as I haven't illuminated them yet! Easy that I can just flip them around.

What kind of 3d printer are you using? Can you inform me so info with pro's and cons? I'm looking to buy one soon as well. Also,so have you ever charge clients for 3d printing yet? if so how for per cubic inch and the type of plastic you use?

[AscendaShogun]

Honestly,

This is my favourite build thread.

Keep up the killer work.

[spray2020]

I can't wait to see them with covers on them. They'll look badass. Maybe finally these shitboxes will have efficient lighting

Thanks! Same here I am hoping for the same :)

Interested in a set

Cool :)

What kind of 3d printer are you using? Can you inform me so info with pro's and cons? I'm looking to buy one soon as well. Also,so have you ever charge clients for 3d printing yet? if so how for per cubic inch and the type of plastic you use?

I am using a MakeiT INC 3D printer, Pro-L model: http://makeit-3d.com/

They are based out of California, and a pretty high end consumer printer. I used to work for the company, and now use one at my home.

Pros: You can make pretty much anything you can think of and 3d model! There are about 10-15 different types of plastics/ composites that it can print, including clear polycarbonate and a carbon fiber type filament. The size of the print is limited to the print area - about the size of a small suitcase.

Cons: it takes practice to get settings right, the prints can day a long time to print, prints can fail, Prints can take multiple tries to get right.

No, I don't take any personal jobs currently, but you can contact them (MakeiT INC) or other online based 3d printer websites who take on job's.

[adey]

Any updates on this?? They look amazeballs.

[eagleeyes221]

I don't think there have been any updates to this but i follow him on instagram and he is currently working on prototype S2000 fender vents. Ive been working on making my own set now for awhile and have yet to come up with a decent setup.

[go4speeed]

Sooooo siiiiick, always wanted a set, keep us posted.

[go4speeed]

What's you IG?

[spray2020]

I am still working on them. Just need to do other projects as well to pay the bills. Plan to do some work on them over this holiday weekend. Will have updated photos.