Great news to those Die Hard "KA24"ers. Tomei imports a US 240sx for KA24 Development

[koukidriver]

Here is the link:

Tomei Insider: USDM 240SX arrives in Japan! | Tomei Powered (http://www.tomeipowered.com/BTE/index.php/2012/10/11/tomei-insider-usdm-240sx-arrives-in-japan/)

[coupesallday!]

Wow this should be epic

[iamtheyi]

I saw this on the KA-T forums first. Seems like they are not too excited. The biggest concern is if they can produce parts for a great price for the level of quality they are known for on the SR.

Many of them think that American companies are doing quite well with the KA platform and Tomei is a too late to really get people to buy their parts. Opinions?

[Socal_sil80]

It's pretty exciting news but from the article it seems they're not gonna invest too much in R&D on the platform. They say its more a project for the younger guys working there. Still very cool in my opinion though. It doesn't hurt to add more support for the KA.

[ZX88]

10 years too late

[dawagarage]

i got excited as well, but yeah, too late, especially since the motor isnt even production anymore.

but im interested to see where they go with this and what they come up with.

[240sxfan6882]

Oh what!! F YEAH!
More stuff for the KA-T is certainly good news to me.
There is really no shortage of parts to start a KA-T... but there's diffidently some things that we have few options on. I would LOVE to see Tomei make a headgasket for the KA. Our current options are the Iffy cometic and the Cosworth (which I haven't seen anyone use).

I would also love to see them make a bottom mount pulse-divided manifold for the KA like the SR.

We will see. But this can't hurt!

[240sxfan6882]

I saw this on the KA-T forums first. Seems like they are not too excited. The biggest concern is if they can produce parts for a great price for the level of quality they are known for on the SR.

Many of them think that American companies are doing quite well with the KA platform and Tomei is a too late to really get people to buy their parts. Opinions?

I have a KA-T that was possible with a ton of knowledge from those guys.
But the culture over there is to build the block, get a top mount manifold, a t3/t4 turbo and call it a day.

Im using an Xcessive top mount setup with a t3/t4 .50 trim turbo, and to tell you the truth i find it boring. Im going bottom mount and I have a GTX2867r that im running, and as far as I know I am the only one on those forums who's going to be running one. I told my buddy who is also a KA-T junky and he said why spend the cash? He would just use a $300 holset turbo and call it a day.

Most are happy with good old'proven tech, and that's fine.
There are a lot of options for top mount manifolds for the KA, but you will not find a twin-scroll-ready manifold outside of the $$$$ full race. And bottom mount options are the DOC race one, or the Ebay-caliber ones like Isis and so on. But a bottom mounted pulse-divided manifold like the Tomei would be awesome.

[Highway Riding]

Neva too late! Smart move.. Too bad i tossed my KA in the trash!

[Memberofthe600hpkaclub]

Maybe they will build a set of adjustable cam gears that are worth a shit...I wanna be exact with my degreeing not just "close"....tomei hg sounds neato...maybe a huge throttle body that retains oem tps....I could prob name a few other things...solid lifters maybe?

[Matej]

Tomei should just build a brand new universal engine that can be easily swapped into any car.

[DreamN]

^ Liked. :D

[BOROSUN]

unless the make carblegal stuff kits, which i doubt. me no care.

[coupesallday!]

Nvm.........................

[illvialuver]

I saw this on the KA-T forums first. Seems like they are not too excited. The biggest concern is if they can produce parts for a great price for the level of quality they are known for on the SR.

Many of them think that American companies are doing quite well with the KA platform and Tomei is a too late to really get people to buy their parts. Opinions?

Some of the guys on there are a bit snobbish.

It's pretty exciting news but from the article it seems they're not gonna invest too much in R&D on the platform. They say its more a project for the younger guys working there. Still very cool in my opinion though. It doesn't hurt to add more support for the KA.

true it cant hurt, have you seen how affordable their cams are for the sr engine?


Neva too late! Smart move.. Too bad i tossed my KA in the trash!

agree, except I would never have tossed mine in the trash.

Tomei should just build a brand new universal engine that can be easily swapped into any car.

That would be even more expensive then their crate engines.

I am looking forward to this stuff. It doesnt really matter that the engine is out of production, KAs are like Frank's RedHot, Nissan put that shit in everything in the 90s.

[tricky_ab]

I don't see how a respected company deciding to develop parts is a bad thing...

[KansaiDrifter]

Yeah I don't care if it's considered "late", Tomei has some of the best parts available and are throwing us a bone, I'll take it lol. Just imagine a Tomei crate KA26DET, might actually get power and some reliability.

[AznB_Boy89]

Full Tomei KA turbo kit in the future? lol

[bc.]

10 years too late

yep, plus, lots of people who keep KA's don't have the $ to spend on Tomei parts (pistons come to mind)

[MadScientist]

Yeah, don't expect much out of this as Bee*R and Yashio Factory have both done this and Trashed the project because its pointless!!!!!

At best you get some trinket parts.

[tub53025]

Full Tomei KA turbo kit in the future? lol

i better start saving now haha

[Super_OK_S13]

i though people want to always de-stroke/different pistons in a KA and make it a 2.2L(ish) or close to that to handle high(er) RPMs...

maybe a new crank and bottom end setup is comming, if they decide to take the project on.

[iamtheyi]

i though people want to always de-stroke/different pistons in a KA and make it a 2.2L(ish) or close to that to handle high(er) RPMs...

maybe a new crank and bottom end setup is comming, if they decide to take the project on.

This is untrue. People boost the KA because it's readily available, has more displacement, and the high stroke produces low-mid end torque that people when boosting KA's.

Only people I've seen using de-stroker kits are about two or three attack guys.

I would also like to add that I would be extremely disappointed if Tomei decided to go the de-stroke route with the KA :'(. Sad Panda all day.

[Memberofthe600hpkaclub]

As I said....damn cam gears

[Matej]

That would be even more expensive then their crate engines.
But worth it. It would be like having a new car. :)

[Big Zee]

it would be neat to see Tomei build a manifold for a KA, makes their SR turbo kits bolt up then and only have to worry about the lines being routed a little different.
Also a Tomei oil pan, cams and cam gears. and to see them devolp a tune for the KA on their Rytec system.

I have a SR but I'm finding myself buy more and more Tomei gear and decided to buy their 2.2L stoker kit, if I buy another 240 and they have parts for the KA on the go I would totally rock their gear, the quality is there to keep people like me repeat customers

[w0nderbr3ad]

Heard about this from a friend. I'd actually like to have some tomei parts on my ka. I'm excited for it but I probably won't be able to afford it.


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[S-Nation S13]

sweet, cant wait to see what they produce, late or not this should give some hope for us die hard KA24DEr's

[jspecusa]

great idea just 10 years too late.
if it was megan racing making more stuff for KA24 it
would make sense, for tomei to make stuff for a old motor doesn't.
when it comes to manufacturering, most of the cost is tooling and R&D.
if I were Tomei manager I would rather make engine
parts for LSX.
like last year SEMA I saw a Dry Carbon intake manifold for LS motor that make
sense.

[Bambi]

Yeah, don't expect much out of this as Bee*R and Yashio Factory have both done this and Trashed the project because its pointless!!!!!

At best you get some trinket parts.

I fucking love trinkets.

[usdm180sx]

Yeah, if they built a ka24de genesis crate motor I doubt many zilvians would buy it. But it would be cool if they made a reytec harness and every possible bolt on for the ka

[MrSanchez925]

Lol why are people complaining? Who cares if the motor is old. Shit so is the 240 and I dont here anyone bitching about new parts being made.

[DJ-of-E]

great idea just 10 years too late.
if it was megan racing making more stuff for KA24 it
would make sense, for tomei to make stuff for a old motor doesn't.
when it comes to manufacturering, most of the cost is tooling and R&D.
if I were Tomei manager I would rather make engine
parts for LSX.
like last year SEMA I saw a Dry Carbon intake manifold for LS motor that make
sense.

I know a person with an LS2 engine in an RX-7. Let me tell you, after riding shotgun at the track hitting below 2 minutes a lap @ buttonwillow while car not even feeling remotely front heavy...I am a believer in the LSX.

[EDacIouSX]

I know a person with an LS2 engine in an RX-7. Let me tell you, after riding shotgun at the track hitting below 2 minutes a lap @ buttonwillow while car not even feeling remotely front heavy...I am a believer in the LSX.

i believe the majority of a LSX weight is distributed around the transmission.


great idea just 10 years too late.
if it was megan racing making more stuff for KA24 it
would make sense, for tomei to make stuff for a old motor doesn't.
when it comes to manufacturering, most of the cost is tooling and R&D.
if I were Tomei manager I would rather make engine
parts for LSX.
like last year SEMA I saw a Dry Carbon intake manifold for LS motor that make
sense.




Tomei may be a little late to the KA Game yes... but they have a good argument. SR20s are becoming harder to get in the states, KAs are a little bit more abundant over here than SRs and there's no big name company making parts for the KA. Look at greddy, they made a KA-T Kit... If I had the option to buy just the exhaust manifold from greddy I would have but I cannot do that so I won't buy their kit. Also, they released a header for the KA. The header maybe was released a little too early in the game, before KA's became popular so they discontinued it. KAs are now popular engines to build so there is a growing demand for it.

Plus, Tomei just started making stuff for 1jz/2jz engines. Seems like it was a smart move for them to enter that market even though that engine is so old.

[jorge1190]

I feel like this would be great for RHD/LHD fitment on different parts.

[jesse_s13]

This is a great find for me:)

[Matej]

Yashio imported a 240SX to Japan a while ago, and all they ended up doing was install an exhaust on the car and make a cool video. :)
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[S-Nation S13]

Yashio imported a 240SX to Japan a while ago, and all they ended up doing was install an exhaust on the car and make a cool video. :)


damn..that sounds like a beasty ass KA? if its indeed a KA?

[BossHogg]

pretty sure yashio scrapped the KA plan because they wouldn't get it done in time for tokyo auto salon. So they put an sr20 in it last minute. It was supposed to be some cool new project or some shit way back in the day. Old news/vid, I can't remember what all they did to the ka but I believe they left it NA then threw a turbo on later. I can't remember as this was done years ago. The worst that can happen is Tomei starts diving into the KA, realizes it has a shit ton of potential and makes all the JDM fanboy's think its a cool motor now. 10 years ago this thread would be full of, "why, its a junky truck motor because super street says so." It is funny how much misinformation is still out there about the KA to. I hope they do it big and make it shine. I have an idea of what could potentially happen and it will be to funny if it does.

[sil80d]

Is that an auto ka that they imported? Looks like it to me

[xoxide]

Is that an auto ka that they imported? Looks like it to me
Sure is. Probably a lot easier to find an unmolested auto 240 than an unmolested stick.

[Frank_Jaeger]

pretty sure yashio scrapped the KA plan because they wouldn't get it done in time for tokyo auto salon. So they put an sr20 in it last minute. It was supposed to be some cool new project or some shit way back in the day. Old news/vid, I can't remember what all they did to the ka but I believe they left it NA then threw a turbo on later. I can't remember as this was done years ago. The worst that can happen is Tomei starts diving into the KA, realizes it has a shit ton of potential and makes all the JDM fanboy's think its a cool motor now. 10 years ago this thread would be full of, "why, its a junky truck motor because super street says so." It is funny how much misinformation is still out there about the KA to. I hope they do it big and make it shine. I have an idea of what could potentially happen and it will be to funny if it does.
No thanks. I like my obscure and cheap platform with healthy potential. The more KA disinformation the better!

Whoops, old thread revival.

[Flicktitty]

since this is an old(er) thread, i wonder has anyone heard of anything coming down the line from Tomei ?

[yomisiu]

Tomei realized USDM sucks and crushed the car.

[s14boy]

since this is an old(er) thread, i wonder has anyone heard of anything coming down the line from Tomei ?

a little birdie told me they are still working on the ka :) also with a possibility of a part or two by the end of the summer but no promises yet. they are currently working on the bottom end at the moment:)

will deffinatly be producing at some point and i cant wait
-head gasket
-camshafts(not sure what specs they will be offering yet)
-cam gears(this is a much needed product for the ka)
-turbo kit: this kit is being bassed off the sr20 kit so it will be able to utilize the sr turbo, down pipe, and cat back exhaust already made for the sr.
slight chance of
-Pistons
-Rods

hope this helps
-Mike

Tomei realized USDM sucks and crushed the car.

cars still in great condition but is in manny pieces :p

-Mike

[zerodameaon]

I highly doubt the turbo is going to be emissions legal leaving a lot of us still in the same place as before. It is nice to see them in the game now but its not like they are doing much that has not already been done for the KA with the exception of cam gears.

[s14boy]

i see your point but tomei has some great prices for the parts and performance they offer so i see this as a huge potential, but will have to wait and see. also i hope they consider an intake manifold to add to the list.

-Mike

[illvialuver]

I know that the parts s14boy said are true, they are working to make them come out as soon as they can. I think even ka oil-pan is in the mix. Just stay tuned. Check their blog @
TOMEI POWERED INTERNATIONAL (http://www.tomeipowered.com)

But you will know when the stuff is out. The 10 years too late talk is dumb when comparing it to the sr20det and people STILL make parts for that engine and it was never even sold here.

I am just excited to see this idea come to fruition

[Maikeru5]

I highly doubt the turbo is going to be emissions legal leaving a lot of us still in the same place as before.

You're right. You poor California guys will still have nothing....the rest of the country will be happy though.

[fliprayzin240sx]

I highly doubt Tomei will build anything for the KA. I mean, come on now, you really expect a company to do all this R&D on an engine that isn't that popular, and the damn engine has been out of production for almost a decade.

[Miguelone]

I highly doubt Tomei will build anything for the KA. I mean, come on now, you really expect a company to do all this R&D on an engine that isn't that popular, and the damn engine has been out of production for almost a decade.

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[fliprayzin240sx]

http://i.qkme.me/3phkor.jpg

Diversify to who? 80% of KA-T guys are the same guys who can't afford to do an SR20 swap, and built a junkyard turbo kit.

[zerodameaon]

You're right. You poor California guys will still have nothing....the rest of the country will be happy though.

Yeah until more and more states start passing clone emissions laws of Cali's. Anyways yeah they make good parts, the camgears are what I am after. Granted until we see something on shelves its just a waiting game.

[EDacIouSX]

Diversify to who? 80% of KA-T guys are the same guys who can't afford to do an SR20 swap, and built a junkyard turbo kit.

I've spent so much on my KA-T rebuild so far that I could have just swapped in a stock s14 sr into my car with some minor upgrades.....

if tomei had their stuff out, I would have bought all tomei parts over the BC and cometic parts I was forced to purchase since there are no other options.

I am definitely interested in tomei's exhaust manifold + turbo + elbow if they produce one.

[BossHogg]

Diversify to who? 80% of KA-T guys are the same guys who can't afford to do an SR20 swap, and built a junkyard turbo kit.


I think that is 240sx people in general. Cheap asses. There are two groups of 240 people I believe (for the most part). The fanboys who are usually teens/early 20's which is expected to be poor not afford the quality brands. Then the guys who have been in this since the 90's before the hype. Which are older and can afford the finer things. You never know, with tomei backing a motor, we may be the ones exporting ka's to the rest of the world. It would be our SR so to speak. It could turn out like another aero bumper scenario, cheap and dime a dozen years ago.....high demand expensive now. Probably not likely but you never know. Crazy shit happens everyday.

Also, with a big name brand backing a motor, it will give other guys with money a "reliability" factor to where they feel comfortable dumping cash into a particular platform. That is the power of having a reputable "brand" make parts. To where as before they might not of considered it at all. Not saying there are no quality brands that currently make ka parts..... the KA proved itself yeaaars ago. But that is in a US market. Tomei has a greater pull in other countries. They are not that huge here. They see Tomei making parts and are like wtf is this? So they want to try it out. S-chasis stuff is popular and that would be something new to that side of planet.

if they go as far as to redesign the head....the SR is fucked. But that would be mucho dinero lol.

[Miguelone]

There's a 3rd group you didn't mention too, the younger cats who understand quality over quantity and are willing to spend the extra for genuine parts. Granted it's a smaller group but still.

[whitenoise]

not sure about a Tomei pushing this through but im not waiting . so i did my own Tomei M8270 KA-T :wiggle: although it would be nice if they do so KA-T guys can save a few bucks on fabrication LOL

[drftngs14]

This is very intriguing since I love the KA motor, always have.. And most of you are right, having a big "name brand" company make parts for it does open new ideas. For me, Id rather build a ka and turbo it than get an SR, just my opinion. Obviously Id rather have an RB, but dollar for dollar Id rather have the ka. The only thing Im wondering is whats the turn around time in getting these parts once they are produced?

[fliprayzin240sx]

Greddy made a KA-T kit and a handful of other stuff, how well did their stuff caught on? I dont see Tomei doing any better than Greddy. I just think Tomei is jumping into a dying market and coming in waaaaay too late.

[MamangSorbetero]

since this is an old(er) thread, i wonder has anyone heard of anything coming down the line from Tomei ?

I got to talk to a Tomei engineer a couple of days ago

They're currently developing a stroker kit and some upper-end stuff. They really love LHD 240's and KA's apparently. They have also created a whole bolt-on kit for the DOHC already. Manifold and downpipe

[EDacIouSX]

Greddy made a KA-T kit and a handful of other stuff, how well did their stuff caught on? I dont see Tomei doing any better than Greddy. I just think Tomei is jumping into a dying market and coming in waaaaay too late.

As I stated earlier, KA's were not popular until about 5 years ago which came after the product lifetime of greddy products. The community evolved since then, kind of like how people used to argue that SRs were a bad swap because support for SRs was very hard to find state side. Kind of like how LS1s were stupid to swap because it was too difficult at one point. etc etc... KA-Ts are trendy now which explains why KA motorsets have gone up in price.

[BossHogg]

Greddy made a KA-T kit and a handful of other stuff, how well did their stuff caught on? I dont see Tomei doing any better than Greddy. I just think Tomei is jumping into a dying market and coming in waaaaay too late.

not to mention the greddy kit was a complete joke and to expensive. You could piece your own way better kit for cheaper. What a waste.


Also, the ka was popular before 5 years ago lol.

[BossHogg]

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[Maikeru5]

Turbo Manifold!

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[iamtheyi]

oh my gah. So excite.

[turbo2nr]

looking foward to purchasing a tomei head for my ka-t

[BossHogg]

I'm thinking, s15 ka-t powered lol. The 240sx that never was. Would it still be considered "jdm tyte" if its a tomei ka? Stupid truck motor. Truck motor is stupid.

[yomisiu]

http://i.imgur.com/u7oKjGr.gif

[bataangpinoy]

i wonder how much a Tomei KA will go for.

but if i pop my sr20, and tomei has an ARMS M7960 kit for the KA, i will be going KA-T.

[Chris28]

I'm thinking, s15 ka-t powered lol. The 240sx that never was. Would it still be considered "jdm tyte" if its a tomei ka? Stupid truck motor. Truck motor is stupid.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b152/onefast240/14128_1269366093845_1220611878_3063.jpg

Already happened.

[tricky_ab]

Already happened.


https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2455532/GIFS/1314902537368.gif

[!Zar!]

Ugly car is ugly

[d_nice]

this is good to hear for the ka guys who still have it

[S-Nation S13]

damn.. manifold looks promising .. with the new star station bullshit California got going on .. bolt ons seems to be the way to go ..

[delado]

Been shopping around for swaps for my kouki, and realized how crazy the prices of JDM motors have gone up. Thanks to this, I'll be keeping my KA. KA-t is the way to go.

[BossHogg]

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b152/onefast240/14128_1269366093845_1220611878_3063.jpg

Already happened.

no...it didn't. TOMEI KA and that car is mad wack. I'm talking a properly done one.

[codyace]

Diversify to who? 80% of KA-T guys are the same guys who can't afford to do an SR20 swap, and built a junkyard turbo kit.

And to double the irony of it all, they are getting excited for Tomei parts and wont' be able to afford them either.

[wtf]

When I was there in jan. They just got the car in The main focus from what tomei said is this is for the u.s market cuse the ka is so popular here. Just because their late to the game dosen't mean a thing ka owners should be proud that they get a'' better option'' than the less quality parts produced now. also if the old motor thing was such a problem they wouldn't still be making parts for the 4age.

[TheRealSy90]

Where the fuck did they find a 5sp S14 in such immaculate condition? That KA was CLEANNN when they pulled it out.

I love watching them work on that head and building the turbo manifold. So cool that they video that for us.

[Mikester]

And to double the irony of it all, they are getting excited for Tomei parts and wont' be able to afford them either.

^^This^^

Very few 240's here in the US have anything more than a Tomei oil cap or a big Tomei decal that they got for free at best.... The majority of owners are kids with (or even without) part-time jobs... a lot of them college students who barely get by week to week... drift their asses off with every spare penny they can squander; and hold their cars together with speed tape, zipties and luck.

Don't get me wrong- there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING wrong with that & I mean no disrespect to anyone- I admire the starving racers out there for doing anything they can to keep at it!

The point is that it's no secret that Tomei will not make eleventy brazillian yen from any KA24DE-centric endeavors... However, the good news is that the concept of MTO (made to order) parts is alive & well in Japan- and rarely will there ever be a stockpile of superfluous parts laying around Tomei's distribution centers... A lot of higher-end S13/S14 parts are MTO by a lot of the big-boy companies; and THAT is the real magic... This way the people who CAN afford the stuff will be able to get it... and anything Tomei makes above & beyond R & D just goes into the gravy train of everything else they've done to support the aftermarket for 20+yr old cars. In that sense... it's never too late.

Just my $.02

Mike

[illvialuver]

I like how people throw out terms like the majority of 240sx owner, based off their own personal opinion, and not fact.


And the money is besides the point to Tomei. I know they are a business, but they just want to make good quality parts for a car that the engineers and bosses over there, love, if they make a enough to break even I am sure they will be happy.

The ka was no where near as popular 5 years ago as it is now.

5-6 years ago, I had a frakenstein ka24det setup that had a t3/t4 tuurbonetics turbo, some jank piping and 550 cc injectors and was make just shy of 300 hp and tq with only 10-11 psi.

I would go to meets or to events and assholes would get all excited when they heard my car was turbo, then I pop my hood they ask if its sr, I say no they walk away shaking their heads. The were dumb. Now it is almost half the people I come across have a kat or are going kat.

It makes clear sense, that as long as they are making kits for sr20s they should make them for the ka. the only difference as far as manifolds is the flanges on the runners, everything else will bolt up.

Yes, there are cheap ass people who own our cars now, but we are all not cheap ass people with no concern for quality.

the videos posted speak for themselves, if interested like their facebook page for the ka24det project.

https://www.facebook.com/tomei240sx?fref=ts

People with srs are just sad that someone can buy the same exact stuff as they can, but make more power and more torque sooner.

Don't believe me? Read the latest dsport.

The sr vs KA shootout of theirs is a total joke. How many people do you know who have sr23det motors? almost none, most people I have met keep the same 2.0 liter engine and just do bolt-ons, which will net you much less than Dsports sr23. There is no comparison.

Tomei is just using a bigger net so to speak, when it comes to getting the s chassis crowds business. Which is smart.


Last things about this old engine rubbish, is the sr and the 2j and the ej, and the 4g63, and the rb are all old as engines, that they still produce parts for, so I do not see how that argument is relevant .

[BossHogg]

^^^ agree. what these people don't realize is that the name tomei itself will catch the attention of people with money. Their name brings money. Because its quality and proven. I don't know but I have always been into the KA-T. So it has seemed popular to me since the early 2000's. In my opinion it has went down in popularity as the big name tuners showing interest have come and gone it seems. It just might be more "acceptable" now since the douchers on the first wave of the 240 bandwagon new nothing about KA and just wanted to bash it because it wasn't in there favorite drift car lol. The SR has always been pointless in my eyes. It has no benefit besides "drop in and go". In order to make it worth a damn, you have to upgrade every single part that you would have to buy for a ka-t. The only thing that scared people was that KA is more hands on involved, custom this, custom that rather than the SR's various "kits" whether it be turbo, intercooler, downpipes etc.

I don't think most of you have spent much time in the KA crowd. There are people who shell out major cash. Hell there were numerous people who swapped SR then drove a KA-T and never looked at a SR again. With big name brand making simple bolt on kits and internal parts etc, that will just make it that much more of an option. People like that feeling of reassurance. If they would have done this sooner, I would not have a RB.

Just my thoughts. As to me it really doesn't matter. Tomei parts are not to terribly expensive until you get into the stroker kits and genesis motors.

Depending on how far they take this, they already have me debating whether or not doing a second s chasis.

[Corbic]

Tomei should take the real plunge and build some LS-series parts.

Considering how stupid cheap the iron blocks are, I'm surprised Japanese tuners are not importing them to Japan for the sake of "Being different".

[Scope240sx]

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2455532/GIFS/1314902537368.gif

probably the funniest thing I have ever seen.

I am crying from laughter.
epic own

[BossHogg]

Tomei should take the real plunge and build some LS-series parts.

Considering how stupid cheap the iron blocks are, I'm surprised Japanese tuners are not importing them to Japan for the sake of "Being different".

lol that would be classic.

[Scope240sx]

anything tomei wins

[Miguelone]

Tomei should take the real plunge and build some LS-series parts.

Considering how stupid cheap the iron blocks are, I'm surprised Japanese tuners are not importing them to Japan for the sake of "Being different".
They already have ka's in Japan in various light commercials and midsize ff cars

[Matej]

And to double the irony of it all, they are getting excited for Tomei parts and wont' be able to afford them either.
No worries, ISIS and Godspeed will be selling them a few months later.

[codyace]

No worries, ISIS and Godspeed will be selling them a few months later.

Sadly true :(

[codyace]

People with srs are just sad that someone can buy the same exact stuff as they can, but make more power and more torque sooner.



But I can make more average power longer with my SR :P


No reason to debate, both engines have a ton of positives, and some very MAJOR negatives. I'm glad Tomei is making parts for the engine, I can remembering have a KA-T Ten years ago how limited the market was for anything.

[MidwestMyriad]

From GrupertAwesome: (http://grupertawesome.tumblr.com/)

The Nissan KA24 is an awesome engine.

It was built in Mexico, the land of dirty water and drug cartels.

I hope the people that built my KA were drunk on Tequila, that’d be awesome, man.

[[email protected]]

From GrupertAwesome: (http://grupertawesome.tumblr.com/)

The Nissan KA24 is an awesome engine.

It was built in Mexico, the land of dirty water and drug cartels.

I hope the people that built my KA were drunk on Tequila, that’d be awesome, man.

As far as I know, the KA in our cars were built in JAPAN.

[DJ 21o3]

People are happy there are more parts for the KA...i plan on Turboing my 2004 Frontier's KA so I am still stuck fabricating some stuff. lol

[Drift_86]

I think it might be to late as well, but a bad idea bring back the marketing on ka engine. I feel that there's to many people giving up on the old engine. I just wish it would continue growing making it easier to find the parts I need.

[Fusious]

I really don't see how this is a bad thing. I personally want to keep my KA and rebuild it. I would rather go with a KA over an SR for some odd reasons. I think that a company investing time and effort to come out with more stuff for the KA is a fantastic idea and I fully support it.

[josh_schul]

I <3 this thread. Definitely will be buying some tomei products for my ka-t!

[Mikester]

Funny, undertones of the whole 'KA vs. SR' debate in a thread about cool parts by a great company being engineered for the KA.

Personally, I couldn't wait to get rid of the KA in my 240 in favor of the SR... but not for orthodox reasons:

1. I cut my S-chassis teeth in Japan in an SR-powered 180SX; so it's kinda the base of all I know about these cars

2. I brought everything from the FMIC to the tail pipe back to the states when I moved back here and did not want to reivent the wheel

3. I'm not incredibly familiar with the KA; and am much more comfortable with the SR from a parts/maintenance perspective

4. I think the SR is more pleasing to the eye... not because of the whole "JDM-tyte" thing, but because it actually looks better to me for some reason.

In summary, the SR is well-inside my comfort zone ;)

Had I started down the 240SX road here in the USA; I personally very well may have favored the KA-T over the SR. Who knows.

Bottom line: Tomei making parts for the KA is pure coolness- No two ways about it~

[MidwestMyriad]

As far as I know, the KA in our cars were built in JAPAN.

Most 240 KA's were, but a lot of the KA's headed for the states were built in Mexico, don't get salty Mexico, just a joke.

[Miguelone]

Inb4 ca resurgence

[feito]

Most 240 KA's were, but a lot of the KA's headed for the states were built in Mexico, don't get salty Mexico, just a joke.

not the ones on 240's up to what i know

[Miguelone]

Why would it make any sense to build engines in Mexico then ship to Japan to go into cars destined for the US?

[Corbic]

Why would it make any sense to build engines in Mexico then ship to Japan to go into cars destined for the US?

Because the Internet.

[Mikester]

Why would it make any sense to build engines in Mexico then ship to Japan to go into cars destined for the US?

Because it created jobs for Mexicans; which drove a decline in illegal immigration.

:rimshot:

[OBEEWON]

http://www.crossfitarmada.com/kaboom!.gif

[Shift n Drift]

They shoulda developed the VH45... :(

[Corbic]

They shoulda developed the 5.0 Coyote ... :(


Fixed it for ya

[Bambi]

Laughing at everyone who's saying it's a bad move for Tomei without really knowing anything. Didn't know we had so many people here that have done their own market research to jump to such a conclusion about a company that's been around for so long. lolol

[DJ 21o3]

The KA in my pickup was made in Mexico. lol exactly what parts are they planning to do? I need internals, as 240 bolt ons are a bit iffy in my pickup

[Corbic]

Laughing at everyone who's saying it's a bad move for Tomei without really knowing anything. Didn't know we had so many people here that have done their own market research to jump to such a conclusion about a company that's been around for so long. lolol

We are the market, so I think we all know what we would and wouldn't buy.

Its like when Pontiac released the Aztec and everyone said "WTF what a POS!!". Guess who was right, "us" or GM and their team of market researchers who spent millions developing the Aztec.

Believe it or not most quality American performance companies turn out better products then the Japanese counterparts. I remember reading an article a while back about Exhaust manifolds for Hondas. While the Honda community is still all "OMFG JDM Manifold", the grim reality is many of those JDM products where designed 10, 15 or 20 years ago and their have been huge advancements in designing technology since then.

So regarding the KA and Tomei, I don't think Tomei is going to blow anyone out of the water with quality, price or performance. It will simply be a "ZOMFG JDM TOMEI". Personally, the problem there is I don't give it any "street cred" because my JDM-Tyte drirfto hereos never used it.

You won't see it in your Option magazines, Best Motoring Videos, street racing youtube clips or D1 spec sheets. There is also no sense of nostalgia either (important to me).

Honestly, if Tomei wanted to do something innovative, out of the box and focused on the modern American Import Tuner, giving us performance parts for the LS-series with that "import flavor" would be the money maker.

Enough Import guys swap LS motors into RX7s, S2K, 350Z, Rx8, S-chassis and even WRXs that a nice line of intakes, cams, "swap" headers, valve covers and other "nick nacks" would net some nice cash.

[codyace]

We are the market, so I think we all know what we would and wouldn't buy.

Its like when Pontiac released the Aztec and everyone said "WTF what a POS!!". Guess who was right, "us" or GM and their team of market researchers who spent millions developing the Aztec.

Believe it or not most quality American performance companies turn out better products then the Japanese counterparts. I remember reading an article a while back about Exhaust manifolds for Hondas. While the Honda community is still all "OMFG JDM Manifold", the grim reality is many of those JDM products where designed 10, 15 or 20 years ago and their have been huge advancements in designing technology since then.

So regarding the KA and Tomei, I don't think Tomei is going to blow anyone out of the water with quality, price or performance. It will simply be a "ZOMFG JDM TOMEI". Personally, the problem there is I don't give it any "street cred" because my JDM-Tyte drirfto hereos never used it.

You won't see it in your Option magazines, Best Motoring Videos, street racing youtube clips or D1 spec sheets. There is also no sense of nostalgia either (important to me).

Honestly, if Tomei wanted to do something innovative, out of the box and focused on the modern American Import Tuner, giving us performance parts for the LS-series with that "import flavor" would be the money maker.

Enough Import guys swap LS motors into RX7s, S2K, 350Z, Rx8, S-chassis and even WRXs that a nice line of intakes, cams, "swap" headers, valve covers and other "nick nacks" would net some nice cash.


Cliffs: Pushrods Rule! :fruit: :ughug: :ddog: :mephfawk:

[josh_schul]

I dont think Tomei would dive into a project without testing the waters first. Most of you are misled in the idea that ALL KA owners are poor bastards looking to go as cheap as possible. Ive personally invested thousands in my build and, I am glad to hear a company like Tomei is seeking out the potential of a once disregarded motor by many. Its a great ALTERNATIVE to the SR and i dont get why everyone is all against the R&D put forth by Tomei on this project. Sure, they could do that to an LS and a VH, but we could sit here for days and name motors that Tomei SHOULD HAVE developed for, but, the fact is Tomei decided to go the KA route, and im sure they did it for a reason. So all in all, Tomei putting forth the effort in the automotive community is all that i ask for, and maybe you should do the same. They make a killer cam setup for a super affordable price for an SR and I cant wait to buy a set for my KA.

[cured13]

if you go for 350-400 and up hp then going KAT is better option and we all should be thankfull to companies like TOMEI to support us. For kids with rusted POS 240 who want to be cool and make wwwrrrrrrroooooooooooooom, pshhhhhhhhh, sr20det swap is the cheapest ticket.

[Chaluska]

they will probably just weld KA flanges on the SR manifolds, and call it a day.

and being developed over there... SSAutochrome will get there hands on whatever tomei makes, and re-make it for 1/4 of the price. and then sell it as tomei products to america.

[Bambi]

they will probably just weld KA flanges on the SR manifolds, and call it a day.

and being developed over there... SSAutochrome will get there hands on whatever tomei makes, and re-make it for 1/4 of the price. and then sell it as tomei products to america.

wow you have not followed anything that's going on

[towlie]

Tomei pon cams for the KA would sell like hot cakes

[zerodameaon]

Because the Internet.

So we have Al Gore to blame for the KA being built in Mexico? lolol

[genericforumname]

We are the market, so I think we all know what we would and wouldn't buy.

Honestly, if Tomei wanted to do something innovative, out of the box and focused on the modern American Import Tuner, giving us performance parts for the LS-series with that "import flavor" would be the money maker.

Enough Import guys swap LS motors into RX7s, S2K, 350Z, Rx8, S-chassis and even WRXs that a nice line of intakes, cams, "swap" headers, valve covers and other "nick nacks" would net some nice cash.

I was all set to make fun of you for saying people put LS's into WRX's. aaaaaand then I googled. Holy fuck why would anyone want to do that? the only real advantage of the WRX is AWD, get rid of that and it's just a kinda-flimsy boring sedan that still has the awkward subaru looks.

this is coming from someone who daily's a 2013 WRX

on topic more parts for the KA is awesome, when I ranked out my perfectly functional one for the SR the KA-T thing never seemed to turn out well for most builds so I went the "easy" route. if keeping the KA and getting quality parts was possible and more financially feasible I never would've spent the time/money of the SR. lets get real here none of us really dislike the KA's potential to be amazing, most people just choose not to build it out. plus you never have to worry about the little things that can go wrong with a swap since all the factory wiring and parts are mostly still there.

I still have that old KA and still plan to build it and stick it in something one day. maybe soon if my co-worker is willing to sell hers for a normal price(read: no drift tax)

[240_less]

THE MAKING of 240SX Cylinder Block Assembly (http://youtu.be/eysNIv20piw)

This popped up yesterday.

[Matej]

They should have replicated the block out of aluminum.

[PeaceOnesxWai]

God that thing is clean.. Its like watching a factory assembly

[KOUKIboy]

I bet the Tomei engineers looking at the S14 engine bay are saying "WTF is this!?! what is this piece of crap!?!? lmao

[TheRealSy90]

I'm curious as to why the used the factory crankshaft and didn't go with a fully counterweighted crankshaft?

Also, what's that blue stuff they use on everything, I WANT SOME!

[Skilz10179]

I'm curious as to why the used the factory crankshaft and didn't go with a fully counterweighted crankshaft?

Also, what's that blue stuff they use on everything, I WANT SOME!

I was wondering the same thing about the crank...

[Munki]

People in the US are way to cheap to buy tomei parts.... Seems like everyone would rather rock knock off's....

[Corbic]

People in the US are way to cheap to buy tomei parts.... Seems like everyone would rather rock knock off's....

Or legit US Parts.

Plenty of guys rock BC, DOC, Turbonetics, and Precision. Other guys simply fab their own stuff. What does Tomei truly expect to bring to the table other than the name?


Their cams are nothing special, their exhaust systems are nothing special and their turbos are overpriced garbage.

By and large, the Japanese companies today are completely irrelevant. They sell overpriced stupid trinkets to people cause "JAYDEEMM".

"OMFG $75 HKS OIL CAP!!"

"WOW TOMEI TURBO THAT COSTS $1,200 AND IS AS GOOD AS A $600 Precisions Turbo!"

[Matej]

I'm curious as to why the used the factory crankshaft and didn't go with a fully counterweighted crankshaft?
Doubt they are doing some wild build. In fact, I would guess they are most likely making the motor as close to how it came out of the factory as possible so they can get more precise measurements and such.
A weighted aftermarket crank is just extra rotational mass on anything short of a built monster motor.


Or legit US Parts.

Plenty of guys rock BC, DOC, Turbonetics, and Precision. Other guys simply fab their own stuff. What does Tomei truly expect to bring to the table other than the name?


Their cams are nothing special, their exhaust systems are nothing special and their turbos are overpriced garbage.

By and large, the Japanese companies today are completely irrelevant. They sell overpriced stupid trinkets to people cause "JAYDEEMM".
The American companies are just as irrelevant in the import community, except they do not even have the 'name' factor going for them.
If anything, in the recent years, all the innovation as far as new parts for the S-chassis or drifting in general seems to be coming from Australia and Europe.

[Corbic]

The American companies are just as irrelevant in the import community, except they do not even have the 'name' factor going for them.
If anything, in the recent years, all the innovation as far as new parts for the S-chassis or drifting in general seems to be coming from Australia and Europe..

Only thing I can think of is Mazworks VE head swap that nobody buys.

I'm not just talking 240sx. I'm taking industry wide.

[Skilz10179]

It would be nice if they brought something to the table the that KA market needs, maybe a oil pan, head gasket, intake manifold and an actual bolt on big bore tb.

[illvialuver]

well if your interested like and follow their facebook page, all of their info will be posted on it.

here is the link. enjoy.
https://www.facebook.com/tomei240sx

[yomisiu]

FTaiFTVLu5w

[iamtheyi]

Now that I've decided not to go V8 and go KA-t, I'm pretty excited for what Tomei may be bringing to the table.

[InsTanCeZ]

LOL watch them release a KA26DET Genesis crate engine.

[whitenoise]

i had the M8270 on my AMS ka-t and i tell u. i didnt feel a bit of lag after i degreed my bc 264 in it. maybe would go back KA-T later on .:cool:

[240sxfan6882]

i had the M8270 on my AMS ka-t and i tell u. i didnt feel a bit of lag after i degreed my bc 264 in it. maybe would go back KA-T later on .:cool:

The M8270 is pretty big. How was response in 1st gear?
I have a GTX2867r with .82AR Plus (supposed to flow like a full t3) and I believe it's the biggest t2 housing on the market that i've seen. I don't get any boost in 1st gear in slow-to-moderate cruising. I can go upto 4k rpm and no boost even mildly hard throttle. If I step on it aggressively and WOT it picks up like a MOFO though, after 2nd gear it's very responsive, and 3rd gear and up is almost seamless. How was your response before cams?

[zerodameaon]

Also, what's that blue stuff they use on everything, I WANT SOME!

That is assembly lube you can get it at pretty much any autoparts store. Don't put a motor together without it.

[whitenoise]

The M8270 is pretty big. How was response in 1st gear?
I have a GTX2867r with .82AR Plus (supposed to flow like a full t3) and I believe it's the biggest t2 housing on the market that i've seen. I don't get any boost in 1st gear in slow-to-moderate cruising. I can go upto 4k rpm and no boost even mildly hard throttle. If I step on it aggressively and WOT it picks up like a MOFO though, after 2nd gear it's very responsive, and 3rd gear and up is almost seamless. How was your response before cams?

I haven't tried it with stock cams. But i had it with stock cam timing on 264 and it was laggy till about 4500 but power is there up top. But after timing the 264s not much lag at all, full boost at 3900. Breaks traction on 1st and 2nd, on stock final drive

[ixfxi]

Or legit US Parts.
Plenty of guys rock BC, DOC, Turbonetics, and Precision. Other guys simply fab their own stuff. What does Tomei truly expect to bring to the table other than the name?
Their cams are nothing special, their exhaust systems are nothing special and their turbos are overpriced garbage.
By and large, the Japanese companies today are completely irrelevant. They sell overpriced stupid trinkets to people cause "JAYDEEMM".
"OMFG $75 HKS OIL CAP!!"
"WOW TOMEI TURBO THAT COSTS $1,200 AND IS AS GOOD AS A $600 Precisions Turbo!"

.
Only thing I can think of is Mazworks VE head swap that nobody buys.
I'm not just talking 240sx. I'm taking industry wide.

Corbic, why are you talking shit? I dont get it.

The fact that Tomei is even stepping up to the plate to offer products for that engine platform should only make people happy - and instead, we get to read shit like this from you. And who are you? What do you do career-wise where your opinions have any validity to them?

As a business owner, I understand when shops charge a certain price for their parts - more power to them. Not everyone can afford to follow the big american business model of making parts by the millions and having huge retailers like jegs/summit stock them. It works fine for the detroit muscle parts since these parts are a dime a dozen, but it doesnt work so well for the custom parts that are made overseas. I can only wonder how many Tomei oil pans they can manufacture and then afford to hold as inventory. Its a balance game and its not easy to participate. And you want to add profit on top of that? Good luck. Especially with assholes like you chiming in on how pointless it is because its "jay-dee-emm" tight...

JMD, USDM, KDM... who gives a fuck. The fact that these Japanese @ Tomei are willing to even glance at the KA24DE is rad, and I dont even own a KA24DE. If you cant justify the costs, then dont buy their product, dont buy a 75 dollar HKS oil cap, dont buy any of that shit. No one is putting a gun to your head. You're just spouting off your opinion so that you can hear yourself speak.

HKS makes rad products
Tomei makes rad products
MazWorx makes rad products
Corbic makes nothing and sucks a lot of dick

So please, pretty please.. shut the fuck up and at the very minimum, say thanks to all the vendors who even care to make products for our shitty 20 year old cars.

FUCK!

[usdm180sx]

Or legit US Parts.

Plenty of guys rock BC, DOC, Turbonetics, and Precision. Other guys simply fab their own stuff. What does Tomei truly expect to bring to the table other than the name?


Their cams are nothing special, their exhaust systems are nothing special and their turbos are overpriced garbage.

By and large, the Japanese companies today are completely irrelevant. They sell overpriced stupid trinkets to people cause "JAYDEEMM".

"OMFG $75 HKS OIL CAP!!"

"WOW TOMEI TURBO THAT COSTS $1,200 AND IS AS GOOD AS A $600 Precisions Turbo!"

What are you talking about? Tomei cans cost $300 and are some of the best cams on the market. Their head gaskets go for like $120 so their pricing a quality are extremely competitive.

[kamilitaryman]

I can't wait to see the final product when it goes on sale. I'm curious about the price and final specs.

[BossHogg]

What are you talking about? Tomei cans cost $300 and are some of the best cams on the market. Their head gaskets go for like $120 so their pricing a quality are extremely competitive.

not to mention, full titanium exhaust for under a grand. The guy is just mad. Let him be. He has nothing worth a damn and relies on the cheaper alternative. If tomei has nothing to gain.....that is tomei's problem not corbics. Which is why I don't understand his madness. There is really no point. I don't get mad at the companies he listed because I would never by a product from them lol. It's just that simple.

The funny thing is, tomei is bigger than all those companies he mentioned. Wonder how that happened.

[racepar1]

Corbic makes nothing and sucks a lot of dick

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

I quoted the important part, you rock Mike!

:keke:



Also, WTF are you jackasses talking about "fully counterweighted, heavier than stock crankshaft". ALL cranks are fucking counterweighted and aftermarket race cranks are NOT fucking heavier than stock, THEY'RE LIGHTER!!! You're thinking of a FORGED, BALANCED, AND LIGHTENED crankshaft. Nobody in the fucking world sells a race crank that is heavier than the god damned stock one.

GET A GOD DAMNED CLUE FOR FUCK'S SAKE!!!


You retards wanna know why Tomei didn't change the crank as well? Because it's a STAGE-1 engine!!! I was wondering the same thing about the exhaust ports untill I actually read stuff that was on the screen... I would bet that they'll push on to a much more highly modified version of this. Even as a stage 1 engine though I bet it'll put down some SERIOUS power and torque numbers.

[zerodameaon]

would bet that they'll push on to a much more highly modified version of this.

I really hope that they do push on and am curious to see what this is going to put down.

[winter]

Leave it to people to try to downplay the importance of Japanese Engineering / Aftermarket support. I'm so glad we have the most elite keyboard commandos and warriors amongst us in 2013.

Can't wait to see what they've got coming for the KA!

[InsTanCeZ]

In for KA24 swaps on D1SL cars.

[racepar1]

You know what would be FUCKING AWESOME??? If the Japanese decided they liked the KA24DE and started swapping them into JDM Silvias/180sx's. That would rock! I would have such good ammo for all the JDM fanboys talking about how it's a truck motor and the Tomei engineers were probably looking at it as a POS.

:whip:

[Scope240sx]

You know what would be FUCKING AWESOME??? If the Japanese decided they liked the KA24DE and started swapping them into JDM Silvias/180sx's. That would rock! I would have such good ammo for all the JDM fanboys talking about how it's a truck motor and the Tomei engineers were probably looking at it as a POS.

:whip:

hahahha! sell my ka24de for 1800 with the tranny?
like how those bastards sell sr20's for that much.
revenge is a dish best served cold haha :naughtyd:

[racepar1]

hahahha! sell my ka24de for 1800 with the tranny?
like how those bastards sell sr20's for that much.
revenge is a dish best served cold haha :naughtyd:

WRONG!

SR's don't sell for $1800 in Japan, that's how much the importers sell them for here to cover the expenses of importing it and probably close to 100% profit.

Nice try tho...

[Scope240sx]

WRONG!

SR's don't sell for $1800 in Japan, that's how much the importers sell them for here to cover the expenses of importing it and probably close to 100% profit.

Nice try tho...

another get rich quick scheme has failed

back to the drawing board

[BossHogg]

You know what would be FUCKING AWESOME??? If the Japanese decided they liked the KA24DE and started swapping them into JDM Silvias/180sx's. That would rock! I would have such good ammo for all the JDM fanboys talking about how it's a truck motor and the Tomei engineers were probably looking at it as a POS.

:whip:

lol I remember those days. That is when the bandwagon was in its prime. Ricky Chu of super street was the one holding the reins. That guy was a flaming douche who didn't have anything worth a damn. Yet acted like he was actually somebody. Bandwagoners, they were great and still are. If tomei does this right, we all know what is going to happen. Then the butthurt....well yea .4 more litres of displacement. Lets see what a sr24 would do. lol. Just like the v8 guys saying let me turbo my v8 then see how your turbo 4 does lol. Like it makes it magically equal some how.

[EDacIouSX]

lol you guys are hating on corbic, but i don't blame you corbic is so wrong in his opinion.

I really want that ka exhaust manifold for my never to be finished ka-t that i am attempting to get done. le sigh.

[racepar1]

lol you guys are hating on corbic, but i don't blame you corbic is so wrong in his opinion.

I really want that ka exhaust manifold for my never to be finished ka-t that i am attempting to get done. le sigh.

Actually I don't have any issues with Corbic at this point. Mike just ripped the shit out of him and I though it was HILARIOUS. Seriously, EVERY time I stop and read it I'm like this:

:rofl:

Seriously, no joke...

Mike KILLED IT!

[ixfxi]

You know what would be FUCKING AWESOME??? If the Japanese decided they liked the KA24DE and started swapping them into JDM Silvias/180sx's. That would rock! I would have such good ammo for all the JDM fanboys talking about how it's a truck motor and the Tomei engineers were probably looking at it as a POS.

NGH = Not Gonna happen

Reason being, cars in Japan get junked as anything past a certain age or mileage gets heavily taxed. Not that I am Japanese nor do I claim to know what I'm talking about, but thats how we end up with all these older JDM engines, clips, parts, etc


hahahha! sell my ka24de for 1800 with the tranny?
like how those bastards sell sr20's for that much.
revenge is a dish best served cold haha :naughtyd:

I'm sure there will be some demand, but you wont be able to get that much unless you're exporting here and importing there, then selling. You have to think of the complete business model. You're not sitting on gold, buddy. You're sitting on a 2.4L motor, thats it and thats all.


lol I remember those days. That is when the bandwagon was in its prime. Ricky Chu of...............

FUCK RICKY CHU


lol you guys are hating on corbic, but i don't blame you corbic is so wrong in his opinion
Actually I don't have any issues with Corbic at this point. Mike just ripped the shit out of him and I though it was HILARIOUS.

just to clarify, i too have nothing against the guy... I just dont like to hear people spout off shit unless they can back it up. When it comes to turning wrenches, I listen to guys like Aaron because they do it for a living. I hope people do the same when they ask me about my area expertise. Now, if someone is going to talk shit about a premiere tuning company, Japanese or not, they better have something to back up their words with.

The one thing that pisses me off is when I hear people complain about shit they cant afford. For example, I cant afford Ferrari, Aston Martin, Porsche.. any of those high caliber cars. But, you dont hear me talking shit about them being expensive. I mean, it is what it is, right? I *love* the McLaren F1... favorite car of all time. It would be totally fucking ignorant to say "what a ripoff, its over a million dollars. I could just spend 50k in mods and be faster." No fucking shit, apples with apples buddy.

If Tomei makes parts for the KA24, it only broadens their offerings and only garners appreciation from more people. And get this, there MAY just be some small demographic of people who DO NOT care for LSx swaps, and yet still have some interest in keeping their car somewhat stock but with a built/turbo motor. So, spend 10, 15 or 20k... whatever Tomei asks. Makes sense to me. If I had more money than brains, I'de buy a Tomei SR setup.. why the fuck not. Fortunately for me, its just not in my interest.. but fuck, their oil pans are THE SHIT.

[ditchs14]

5iC0Ech0DSc

[LoneStarSilvia]

Don't own a KA, but stuck around for the Corbic bash. Was not disappointed.


NGH = Not Gonna happen

Reason being, cars in Japan get junked as anything past a certain age or mileage gets heavily taxed. Not that I am Japanese nor do I claim to know what I'm talking about, but thats how we end up with all these older JDM engines, clips, parts, etc



It's actually more or less because a lot of these guys treat S-Chassis as throw away cars. We've all seen the pics, I've seen it first hand. Not uncommon to see someone with 2 or 3 SR's in his garage. A longblock can seriously be had for $300.

Kind of funny how that works, they're the KA's of Japan.

[yomisiu]

tl;dw:

http://i.imgur.com/dciosmA.png

[Krusty_s13]

http://cdn.arwrath.com/1/112255.gif

[Ramonesfreak2010]

I'd buy some stuff from them if I were going KA-T!

[240sxfan6882]

That engine bay looks clean! Nice setup, yet simple at the same time. That exhaust sounds beast, I wonder what they are using for internals.
I guess time will tell.

[Cheesy Doriftos]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/7e3c7c92b46f93e83cd824cce80d64d3/tumblr_mxaoxc51DL1rohi97o2_1280.jpg

http://25.media.tumblr.com/f363c13564b5abf883aed93bf8dbd8c0/tumblr_mxaoxc51DL1rohi97o1_1280.jpg

[TheRealSy90]

Cleanest KA Ever.

[genericforumname]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/f363c13564b5abf883aed93bf8dbd8c0/tumblr_mxaoxc51DL1rohi97o1_1280.jpg

that IC pipe is beauty if I've ever seen it.

[silviaks2nr]

Pretty "meh" to me.

[Ramonesfreak2010]

Pretty "meh" to me.
Um. What were you expecting?

[wsmiteh]

What exactly is 0.8kgsgbsidkjdlf's of boost? Im even from Canada and I don't understand :wan:


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[turbo2nr]

Pretty "meh" to me.

agreed. but still glad new parts are being developed.

[240sxfan6882]

Pretty clean KA-T.
Coming from Tomei they have to opportunity to work on getting a flat torque curve and all of that stuff because they can manufacture a lot of stuff and can match everything perfectly.

I hope they just didn't bolt on a manifold and a turbo and called it a day with a built KA because, well, everyone does that already!

They have the opportunity to really make something "unique" here.
I guess we'll see soon.

[iamtheyi]

What exactly is 0.8kgsgbsidkjdlf's of boost? Im even from Canada and I don't understand :wan:


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about 11-12 psi

[silviaks2nr]

Um. What were you expecting?

Definitely not that.

The catch can location, lines, and line routing are really lame. Vacuum lines are 18 feet long, blue, and run across the factory radiator shroud. The battery and fusebox isn't even relocated. Hot pipe routing doesn't make much sense is really ugly. It could be routed down and go in front of frame rail where there'a already a hole for the airbox. That way you can mess with the distributor timing if need be. I applaud them for making a quality exhaust manifold intercooler piping and whatnot it would just be nice to see the fine details paid more attention to on a demo car; It's not like it would have taken much more time or money.

[Matej]

Definitely not that.

The catch can location, lines, and line routing are really lame. Vacuum lines are 18 feet long, blue, and run across the factory radiator shroud. The battery and fusebox isn't even relocated. Hot pipe routing doesn't make much sense is really ugly. It could be routed down and go in front of frame rail where there'a already a hole for the airbox. That way you can mess with the distributor timing if need be. I applaud them for making a quality exhaust manifold intercooler piping and whatnot it would just be nice to see the fine details paid more attention to on a demo car; It's not like it would have taken much more time or money.
They probably kept the fusebox and all the stock junk in place to show that it can stay there. The whole point of this kit is to be 'plug-and-play' on a 240SX, so showing it off in a car with a tucked engine bay would kind of defeat the purpose of the demonstration.

[feito]

Definitely not that.

The catch can location, lines, and line routing are really lame. Vacuum lines are 18 feet long, blue, and run across the factory radiator shroud. The battery and fusebox isn't even relocated. Hot pipe routing doesn't make much sense is really ugly. It could be routed down and go in front of frame rail where there'a already a hole for the airbox. That way you can mess with the distributor timing if need be. I applaud them for making a quality exhaust manifold intercooler piping and whatnot it would just be nice to see the fine details paid more attention to on a demo car; It's not like it would have taken much more time or money.

They probably kept the fusebox and all the stock junk in place to show that it can stay there. The whole point of this kit is to be 'plug-and-play' on a 240SX, so showing it off in a car with a tucked engine bay would kind of defeat the purpose of the demonstration.
exactly, hot pipe i bet u it runs through the stock piping hole, and stock fan and shroud has been proven to work better. Only thing i agree with u is the color, they should have just kept the stock parts looking stock, gray/silver valve cover and black hoses.

[SR Skid_Kid]

Tomei, producer of high end/quality performance products for old outdated KA24DE engines, round of applause for them, Im a fan of this idea. Sure isis and megan and cx-racing and other companys have put together "kits" but common guys cx-china turbo shits vs. Tomei Japan engineered for reliability and performance turbo kits, get real. Can't wait for the production kit to hit the market ima build my KA with this set up. I'm also sure Tomei japan sees a huge market opening for the KA24DE no doubt whether it be for JDM guys trying to be different there in japan or for the USDM performance enthusiest JDM culture they themselves helped influence here in the good ol U.S. of A. I wouldn't be supprised if more JDM companys are to come out and produce new products for KA24DE engines.

[Matej]

Only thing i agree with u is the color, they should have just kept the stock parts looking stock, gray/silver valve cover and black hoses.
They are just adhering to a theme.

http://stwww.octanefreaks.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/TOMEI-engines.jpg

[silnv]

I like it. Nice, clean and practical.

[illvialuver]

They probably kept the fusebox and all the stock junk in place to show that it can stay there. The whole point of this kit is to be 'plug-and-play' on a 240SX, so showing it off in a car with a tucked engine bay would kind of defeat the purpose of the demonstration.


So yeah, this is supposed to be what they start off with, then go from here, kinda like a stock sr with a tubular manifold and upped boost. They made 240 with lowish boost and their smaller turbo. The pistons are low compression, and they will probably switch to the larger turbo later with bigger injectors and much more boost. Point is, if you like the numbers and quality of the sr kit, everything for the ka kit is going to be better.

Why the battery in the front, because they want it to be as clean as possible and as close to stock.

Don't worry about them stopping at a bolt on kit, they are producing cams and will most likely make a stroker kit. Talkin like bigger than rb26 displacement.

The poll that is linked below is the poll I started for this very purpose. Thanks everyone for the feedback, as for most the nay sayers from the first couple pages, you might want to check speedhunters post from Nismo Festival.

http://zilvia.net/f/polls/454411-percentage-people-who-prefer-ka24de-t-sr20det.html

[illvialuver]

If there are any thing you think they should make for this kit, please feel free to share your ideas with me via a pm or posting it on here. adjustable cam gears and oilpan are already on the list. But they are taking everything one step at a time.

[STURGauto]

$$M.S.R.P$$ Is all that will matter by the time this gig is said and done. I hope Tomei doesnt let us down once all the R & D is completed. There are plenty of existing companies that have solid KA parts already. Although Im sure we all look forward to seeing how well they play.

[ixfxi]

The catch can location, lines, and line routing are really lame. Vacuum lines are 18 feet long, blue, and run across the factory radiator shroud. The battery and fusebox isn't even relocated. Hot pipe routing doesn't make much sense is really ugly. It could be routed down and go in front of frame rail where there'a already a hole for the airbox. That way you can mess with the distributor timing if need be. I applaud them for making a quality exhaust manifold intercooler piping and whatnot it would just be nice to see the fine details paid more attention to on a demo car; It's not like it would have taken much more time or money.

^ ......


They probably kept the fusebox and all the stock junk in place to show that it can stay there. The whole point of this kit is to be 'plug-and-play' on a 240SX, so showing it off in a car with a tucked engine bay would kind of defeat the purpose of the demonstration.

^ EXACTLY. The point here isnt to build a super 240SX. The point is to offer upgrades for the 240SX. What is would be the point of them doing all these customizations to a car that they only want to offer BOLT ON products for? You're totally missing the point.

This is supposed to be a minor install that any individual or shop can perform with THEIR parts.

[mewantkouki]

I hope they sell the exhaust manifolds separately. Being forced to buy a complete kit would suck.

[NismoPlsr]

Looks like a classic Japanese street tuned setup. Nice.

[illvialuver]

I don't see them selling it only as a complete kit, as you can purchase all the other manifolds seperately.

[zerodameaon]

I was reading something about this a while ago where they are also planning to go nuts on a KA after this first street one is done.

[GarageMaks14]

Definitely not that.

The catch can location, lines, and line routing are really lame. Vacuum lines are 18 feet long, blue, and run across the factory radiator shroud. The battery and fusebox isn't even relocated. Hot pipe routing doesn't make much sense is really ugly. It could be routed down and go in front of frame rail where there'a already a hole for the airbox. That way you can mess with the distributor timing if need be. I applaud them for making a quality exhaust manifold intercooler piping and whatnot it would just be nice to see the fine details paid more attention to on a demo car; It's not like it would have taken much more time or money.

funny thing is when I read your reply i thought to myself...this has to be a bfe boy with nothing better to do who can't even afford it talking smack....North carolina strikes again!

[zerodameaon]

Oh and your one to talk?

Lets keep this on discussing the motor not attacking each other over differences of opinion.

[silviaks2nr]

The only thing you can come up with is that I'm from North Carolina? Damn I thought you were supposed to be a troll. Gotta try harder man. The other stuff you said isn't even remotely true so that's just positively amusing.

[usdm180sx]

The only thing you can come up with is that I'm from North Carolina? Damn I thought you were supposed to be a troll. Gotta try harder man. The other stuff you said isn't even remotely true so that's just positively amusing.

Awesome. So you don't like it. Some people don't care. Sorry you can't appreciate what they are doing, especially since no other company is doing this.

[silviaks2nr]

If they make a top mount twin scroll manifold and some big cams I'm totally in because I know it'll be budget friendly and quality. I wasn't ripping on it that hard I just said some details were overlooked.

[winter]

Someone hates on TOMEI...First thing that comes to mind...you are poor.

[turbo2nr]

its not hating tomei its just saying they can do better, but then again not every one is looking to make over 500+whp on their ka. Majority of the ka community will be happy with 350whp and a long power band so they can drift their cars.

[winter]

Critical comments on what clearly is meant to be their Stage 1 stockish form without extreme mods.

[waxball88]

Damn.... maybe i was expecting too much. Hopefully in the future. :(

I'm interested what Tomei decided to do with the PCV system.

That valve cover vent is just Busch League.

[mewantkouki]

http://www.speedhunters.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Nismo-Festival-13-48-800x533.jpg

Shit just got real...

A little more speedhunters porn I stumbled across.

http://www.speedhunters.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Nismo-Festival-13-20-800x533.jpg

http://www.speedhunters.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Nismo-Festival-13-21-800x533.jpg

[Smurf_240SX]

So badass, love what Tomei is doing with it.

[GarageMaks14]

Dunno where one gets that tomei will be cost effective. They aren't known to be cost friendly except for their new M series turbo which i hear suck.

[waxball88]

I hope they come out with some cam gears. Be interested what cams they come up with; like standard industry ones that are out already or perhaps a new degree. I wish i didn't already have 264/264s so i could get Tomei's, However excited for cam gears.

[GarageMaks14]

Someone hates on TOMEI...First thing that comes to mind...you are poor.

Yup. 500 dollar oil pans and 17k crate motors aren't for everyone but just cause it's expensive doesn't mean they suck.

[illvialuver]

Tomei has lowered the price on many of their products like head gaskets and poncams.

They are actually spending the time to test out different cams right now, and wont just make a cam to say they have one. I know they have run competitors cams with little to no improvement.

They will track test the items before they are out and will be offering customer tuning guides when their ecu/ tuning for the kit is finished.

Tomei is very serious on creating a quality product for the American s chassis enthusiast. Regardless of Ka or Sr they want to accommodate both.

A representative from Tomei will be creating a zilvia account and posting in here with more information and stuff like that.

Please be patient, as English is his second language and Tomei is very busy, and has a very small staff. Thank you for your continued interest.

[sil80takashi]

Can't believe people are hating on stock battery and location lol

I'd say it's great workmanship of mad tyte jdm quality
which requires no cutting into frame where the stock battery sits like other poor quality front mount set ups

Looks like it's time for me to go back into S-chassis

Good job TOMEI!

[hks4life]

i think the setup is classic jdm street tuned car, everything still there like it should... also does anyone know it that first dyno was standard cams?? it said std??

[RumInDaCoconut]

yeah stock cams on phase 1 , also im assuming those new 270 degree cams wont need upgraded valvesprings since its 9.5 mm lift. so its abit bigger than the BC stage 2 cams and under bc stage 3 (which require valvetrain mods )
comparatively less duration than kelford stage 2 turbo cams 272's and JWT s1 cams also 272.
2 degress make much of a difference?

very curious on the results, hope they post another video.

https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1463357_765405283488931_75553673_n.jpg

[hks4life]

yeah me too. and damn im sure the motor is ready for a lot more they do need to break it in and this way is better.. cant wait to see vids of cams and up boost

[GarageMaks14]

cracks me up how alot of you bfe boys are so quick to talk shit about one of the most well respected tuners for a number of years.

Okay if you can't afford it there's no need to get mad and angry about it

[GarageMaks14]

reminds me of the tomei ti exhaust thread all these broke asses calling it shit cause it was 1000 bucks lol

[zerodameaon]

And you can afford this? 31 acting like 13.

[MrMigs]

Lol'd at "bfe boys" hahah I'm gonna need to borrow that one

[GarageMaks14]

And you can afford this? 31 acting like 13.

not rich per say but got a decent job. :coold:

[zerodameaon]

So whats your proof that he does not have a decent if not better job, just narrow minded troll intuition?

[GarageMaks14]

bow down bfe boys..too bad i can't afford this crate motor tho lol
http://www.enjukuracing.com/product_images/j/878/GENESIS_SR__41671_zoom.jpg

[GarageMaks14]

So whats your proof that he does not have a decent if not better job, just narrow minded troll intuition?

who are you even refering to?

[zerodameaon]

Who the hell do you think, the person you blindly bashed as being a BFE boy from North Carolina.


Anyways back to the important shit, how badass this kit is going to be.
illvialuver please do not show this thread to them, they might lose faith and pull all products out of the US.

[GarageMaks14]

Who the hell do you think, the person you blindly bashed as being a BFE boy from North Carolina.


Anyways back to the important shit, how badass this kit is going to be.

oh well budget minded wilwood brakes and enki wheels say alot:rofl:

actually i don't even think i'm thinking of the right car on the one that is is

[kingkilburn]

I think this guy is schizo, bipolar, or both. He can't make up his mind which side of the discussion to bash.

[GarageMaks14]

Easy.

Tomei rocks and is not cheap

bfe boys, willwood, enki etc are crap

[mechanicalmoron]

I'm guessing all the people talking shit about this have SR's.

They're pissy because they bought a jdm tyte motor, and then tomei made the motor they had the new jdm(-augmented) tyte.

Look at it this way, you have a whole brand new bandwagon to jump on now! The one you last jumped off! How easy is that, anyway???

They've all been talking shit on KA's for years, and just got bitchslapped by tomei.

[GarageMaks14]

You are making no sense you you moran of mechanical.

Tomei is a GREAT company that makes great parts for many various engines.

I had a stock KA and heavily tomei outfitted sr20 and out off the two I still favor the sr. I have no clue what your talking about.

[mechanicalmoron]

You are making no sense you you moran of mechanical.

Tomei is a GREAT company that makes great parts for many various engines.

I had a stock KA and heavily tomei outfitted sr20 and out off the two I still favor the sr. I have no clue what your talking about.

I'm pretty sure that you're on drugs, and that even sober, you'd be a blithering idiot.

That's EXACTLY what I was talking about.

[silviaks2nr]

WTF this has reached a new level of stupid. If you want to see my 240sx or ask me what I do for a living you can PM me. It would be nice if you stopped assuming I'm a poor drift kid with an SR and "enki" wheels as that's far from the truth. If anything I'm of a breed of 240sx owner that's almost long gone.

[turbo2nr]

^^ haha i agree with the man above

[GarageMaks14]

I'm pretty sure that you're on drugs, and that even sober, you'd be a blithering idiot.

That's EXACTLY what I was talking about.

I never talked shit on it you moron. I think the KA support is awesome as well

[illvialuver]

yeah stock cams on phase 1 , also im assuming those new 270 degree cams wont need upgraded valvesprings since its 9.5 mm lift. so its abit bigger than the BC stage 2 cams and under bc stage 3 (which require valvetrain mods )
comparatively less duration than kelford stage 2 turbo cams 272's and JWT s1 cams also 272.
2 degress make much of a difference?

very curious on the results, hope they post another video.

https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1463357_765405283488931_75553673_n.jpg

More videos will be coming. The cams are stock, they still have not made up their minds on what cam duration they will run, and yes, it will be a pon cam set up, no need to upgrade valve train but I am sure it wouldn't hurt.

How about, the arguing stops? As well as the name calling? People should just act their age, the purpose of this thread is not to say anything negative about other people or clown on their wheels or brakes or where they live. It is about sharing the information about Tomei's Ka24det project.

Keep in mind, that Tomei USA reps will and are reading this thread. So the rude and immature things you say will be seen by them .

The people that are contributing positively to Tomei's Ka24 det project I want to thank you on behalf of them. As your enthusiasm and input is greatly appreciated.

[Z28ricer]

I would have been interested in seeing a cast manifold, ideally something bottom mount T3 flanged and ewg'd

Its been pretty well proven that tubulars are going to crack, just a matter of w hen, a quality cast manifold option would be a great thing.

[living4surf]

Really debating going ka-t now

[NAIRB]

^ china tubular manifolds crack. I have never ever once heard of someone having a problem with a tubular tomei manifold ???? I am glad they didn't make a cast one.

[mewantkouki]

The only thing worthwhile that will come of this r&d will be camshafts, a headgasket, an exhaust manifold, and possibly an oil pan. Valve train is questionable... Yes it would be cool but unless it's cheaper than supertech / ferrea stuff it won't stick. Only 5% of people on this site would consider buying a fully counterweighted crankshaft (which won't be any cheaper than BC) or rods and pistons anyway. Especially with all of the options available today. (Ross, JE, CP, Wiseco, Mahle, Arias, Crower, Manley, Pauter, Carrillo, Eagle, Brian Crower, Manley)

Yes dumbasses, I'll be the one to say it. If you're too cheap to buy the QUALITY parts that are available now, what makes you think you'll be buying Tomei's engine parts?

To reiterate on the most necessary things they could produce for a ka.
A decent intake manifold (xcessive and gato performance are all that are availlable)
MLS Headgasket (All that exists is Cometic/Wiseco and Cosworth)
Oil pan (xcessive is all we've got)
Camshafts / adjustable gears (That out perform JWT, Kekford, and Crower)
Lifters, valves, and springs (which you can't really re-design and supertech has already produced shim under bucket, and JWT has made a kit to use VQ35HR DLC lifters)
FCW stock or stroked crank (BC MAKES ALREADY AND NOBODY BUYS)

Ka24de has a fuckton of parts, so stop acting like it's some über hated under developed engine.

[Z28ricer]

^ china tubular manifolds crack. I have never ever once heard of someone having a problem with a tubular tomei manifold ???? I am glad they didn't make a cast one.


Well, that settles it, you haven't heard of one cracking, must not be possible. :rofl:

[NAIRB]

ok give me an example of one cracking

[Z28ricer]

ok give me an example of one cracking



Low mount RB26 exhaust manifolds - GT-R Register - Official Nissan Skyline and GTR Owners Club forum (http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/146028-low-mount-rb26-exhaust-manifolds.html)

HKS

Best aftermarket exhaust manifolds and elbows for RB26. - Page 2 - GT-R Register - Official Nissan Skyline and GTR Owners Club forum (http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/149973-best-aftermarket-exhaust-manifolds-elbows-rb26-2.html)


I'm not going to waste my time chasing down specific SR examples, sorry but it does happen, a cast bottom mount flanged for T3 and an EWG would be the best thing they could and will not produce.

[santasnowman]

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r162/ATCPimpin/dscn2713.jpg
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r162/ATCPimpin/dscn2714.jpg

You can shut up now moron.

[NAIRB]

Z28ricer, I stand corrected. Although I am still going to say I rarely ever hear people complain about quality manifolds, maybe this happens more with the rb manifolds? But either way there is still some that cracked, and I will still say I prefer them over cast, so to each his own.

santasnowman, And you can kindly go fuck yourself as there is no need to hate, just a picture and or link would have been fine like z28ricer posted.

[Z28ricer]

Z28ricer, I stand corrected. Although I am still going to say I rarely ever hear people complain about quality manifolds, maybe this happens more with the rb manifolds? But either way there is still some that cracked, and I will still say I prefer them over cast, so to each his own.

santasnowman, And you can kindly go fuck yourself as there is no need to hate, just a picture and or link would have been fine like z28ricer posted.



How is it that you can sit there and try to say you PREFER a tubular manifold, that only has disadvantages ?

[NAIRB]

cast manifold - stronger, faster spool.

tubular - lighter, better flowing = more hp.

I also change my setup usually once a year and also only use the car half of the year so I don't really ever have any problems with things breaking/wearing out.

[240sxfan6882]

I know other reasons can lead to tubular manifolds cracking - such as lack of flex pipes and or bad/worn exhaust mounts that place tremendous stress on the manifold.
But with that said, looks like the Tomei manifolds hold up well.

Can't wait to see what they make!

[DJ-of-E]

To reiterate on the most necessary things they could produce for a ka.
A decent intake manifold (xcessive and gato performance are all that are availlable)
MLS Headgasket (All that exists is Cometic/Wiseco and Cosworth)
Oil pan (xcessive is all we've got)
Camshafts / adjustable gears (That out perform JWT, Kekford, and Crower)
Lifters, valves, and springs (which you can't really re-design and supertech has already produced shim under bucket, and JWT has made a kit to use VQ35HR DLC lifters)
FCW stock or stroked crank (BC MAKES ALREADY AND NOBODY BUYS)
.

Pretty much nailed it in the head.

I would like a FCW stock crank, but BC's version has clearance issues where you have to make adjustments to the block to fit it right. That, alone, costs a lot.

[Irresistible]

This is awesome, and I'll definitely be buying the manifold when they release it.

[mewantkouki]

Pretty much nailed it in the head.

I would like a FCW stock crank, but BC's version has clearance issues where you have to make adjustments to the block to fit it right. That, alone, costs a lot.

While some grinding of the block is required with the full sized counterweights.. The story isn't that simple. With BC's crank, you'll also lose oil squirters unless you have the crank knife edged, which also means you'll have to have it balanced properly after. Brian Crowers machining tolerances are also different that oem. Plain and simple: different radii between journal surfaces and counterweight masses mean you need chamfer cut bearings to compensate for the changes in radii between stock and aftermarket. I'd like to see the average zilvian buy a $2000 crankshaft and spend another $1000 machining it to fit in a ka properly.

For the record, any manifold can and will eventually crack if pushed past it's stress threshold. Tubular is just more likely as it isn't a one piece design.

Cough, cough tomei make these in t2 and t3 for a ka.
http://www.tomeipowered.com/BTE/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Tomei-1JZRnD-video.jpg

[mewantkouki]

cast manifold - stronger, faster spool.

tubular - lighter, better flowing = more hp.

I also change my setup usually once a year and also only use the car half of the year so I don't really ever have any problems with things breaking/wearing out.

Extrude honing & swaintech coating /end argument. Read about it and learn something.

[Matej]

The coolest thing Tomei ever made were their plug-and-play individual throttle body kits.

[souljaseth33]

While some grinding of the block is required with the full sized counterweights.. The story isn't that simple. With BC's crank, you'll also lose oil squirters unless you have the crank knife edged, which also means you'll have to have it balanced properly after. Brian Crowers machining tolerances are also different that oem. Plain and simple: different radii between journal surfaces and counterweight masses mean you need chamfer cut bearings to compensate for the changes in radii between stock and aftermarket. I'd like to see the average zilvian buy a $2000 crankshaft and spend another $1000 machining it to fit in a ka properly.

For the record, any manifold can and will eventually crack if pushed past it's stress threshold. Tubular is just more likely as it isn't a one piece design.

Cough, cough tomei make these in t2 and t3 for a ka.
http://www.tomeipowered.com/BTE/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Tomei-1JZRnD-video.jpg


I'd like to see them make something like this, as well as an intake manifold. I like the GATO manifolds, except for the price.

[mewantkouki]

The xcessive one isn't terrible, aside from the fact it's ugly as fuck with those stupid gigantic X's and "ka24" cast all over it... Like we don't know what engine it's for. Seriously somebody in their marketing department needs to be punched in the eye for that one.

[crzsteveo]

my balls got tickled. im saving my money now

[MrMigs]

my balls got tickled. im saving my money now

you just want more tickling

[illvialuver]

cast manifold - stronger, faster spool.

tubular - lighter, better flowing = more hp.

I also change my setup usually once a year and also only use the car half of the year so I don't really ever have any problems with things breaking/wearing out.


The manifold is going to be a cast tubular manifold. So best flow and best strength.

Tomei's main concern isn't making money with this project. They want to show that they fully support the us market s chassis market.

[kingkilburn]

Good fucking god. Someone come clean this thread up and ban some retards.

[illvialuver]

https://www.facebook.com/tomei240sx?ref=br_tf

so they are making cams as we speak. Above is the link to their facebook page for the project.

Pictures of cams being tested also. Just wanted to give an update.

[Scope240sx]

Good fucking god. Someone come clean this thread up and ban some retards.

:werd:

https://www.facebook.com/tomei240sx?ref=br_tf

so they are making cams as we speak. Above is the link to their facebook page for the project.

Pictures of cams being tested also. Just wanted to give an update.

sweeet!! :fruit:

[Rabbi010]

https://www.facebook.com/tomei240sx?ref=br_tf

so they are making cams as we speak. Above is the link to their facebook page for the project.

Pictures of cams being tested also. Just wanted to give an update.
I don't have Facebook. Can you take a screen shot for me??? Pplleeaassee

[PoorMans180SX]

To reiterate on the most necessary things they could produce for a ka.
A decent intake manifold (xcessive and gato performance are all that are availlable)
MLS Headgasket (All that exists is Cometic/Wiseco and Cosworth)
Oil pan (xcessive is all we've got)
Camshafts / adjustable gears (That out perform JWT, Kekford, and Crower)
Lifters, valves, and springs (which you can't really re-design and supertech has already produced shim under bucket, and JWT has made a kit to use VQ35HR DLC lifters)
FCW stock or stroked crank (BC MAKES ALREADY AND NOBODY BUYS)


I agree with you. I think the only things A KA really could use are a sheetmetal oil pan, A one-piece intake manifold, and a FCW crank that doesn't require 5 hours of machining other parts for it to fit.

You're not going to get a better cam than Kelford or JWT.

cast manifold - stronger, faster spool.

tubular - lighter, better flowing = more hp.


Please, please, PLEASE stop propagating this junk. This is 100% NOT true, and a well designed tubular manifold will always out perform anything made out of cast iron. Now I have seen some very nice, equal length, cast stainless manifolds out for a few cars that just might be the best of both worlds. Nothing for the S/Z/R-chassis though.

Pretty much nailed it in the head.

I would like a FCW stock crank, but BC's version has clearance issues where you have to make adjustments to the block to fit it right. That, alone, costs a lot.

It's not the block work, that's handled with a dremel. It's the bearing chamfering and squirter blocking as said below:

While some grinding of the block is required with the full sized counterweights.. The story isn't that simple. With BC's crank, you'll also lose oil squirters unless you have the crank knife edged, which also means you'll have to have it balanced properly after. Brian Crowers machining tolerances are also different that oem. Plain and simple: different radii between journal surfaces and counterweight masses mean you need chamfer cut bearings to compensate for the changes in radii between stock and aftermarket. I'd like to see the average zilvian buy a $2000 crankshaft and spend another $1000 machining it to fit in a ka properly.


Yes exactly. I feel BC would have had much more success if they would have just designed the crank to fit properly. I could care less about oil squirters, but having to chamfer the bearings? C'mon guys...

Also, every engine builder should take the time to balance the components, it just doesn't make sense to build an engine for big power and leave an imbalance of potentially a lot of centripetal significance there.

The coolest thing Tomei ever made were their plug-and-play individual throttle body kits.

Definitely.

The xcessive one isn't terrible, aside from the fact it's ugly as fuck with those stupid gigantic X's and "ka24" cast all over it... Like we don't know what engine it's for. Seriously somebody in their marketing department needs to be punched in the eye for that one.

Yeah exactly. I've always thought "Man that manifold would be cool if you could fill in that big X".

[waxball88]

Please get me on the list for the oil pan. Slot #1 please

[kingkilburn]

The three major parts I want to see are;

A fully balanced crank that aside from clearance for the counter weights should be a drop in affair. A stroker would be nice but being able to properly rev out a 2.4 is worth more to me than a 2.6 that still wont rev.


A much higher flowing intake that can also be CARB certed in CA. Two piece or one, doesn't matter to me. I just want to be rid of the airflow choke point on the KA.



A quality NA exhaust manifold. Seems like everything out there is knockoff ebay garbage and I don't need to explain that one.





I'm down to pay for quality and still have a legal to drive car in CA.

[illvialuver]

Aside from the new years post card with a transformer s14 they are moving along, stay tuned.

[white-s13coupe]

*good to hear*
I want to see some of this this stuff on the market : )