RB30 interest

[projects]

So i was thinking since the RB30 motor is non existent in the USA unless you import of find someone with a motor already.

I was going to price up sending a few RB30 blocks and maybe a couple cranks to the USA. But was wondering if there is much interest in this at all?

parts would be steam blasted, blocks maybe a light hone if i suspect issues with bores. and then everything soft sealed for rust protection. the packaged properly to pallets and shipped.

[deolio]

you should add a poll to this thread.

if i were in the market for a swap and an rb30 was available i'd be interested.

[projects]

Sorry im not used to these forums, cannot work out how to add a poll to the thread. Might not have permissions to do a poll.

Was also thinking if i can get my hands on running motors or long/short blocks. i can strip clean and re-assemble blocks, cranks & rods cleaned and ready to ship.

[godzillarb]

I'd be interested. What price range were you thinking.

[projects]

I'm Just going to get a few shipping prices from a mate that works in the industry, for certain zones. Will get a quote for Florida as well.

Then work out an average price i can get motors from and a rough price on estimate on my work preparing the motors and crates to ship.

I'm going to prepared one soon and take photo's of the parts ready to be shipped. if i get enough interest i will keep at it.

[Chrischeezer]

Not that I can afford anything like this at the moment, but I would think people would want the full bottom end, un-touched, not cleaned or "light honed" no?

[projects]

i'd need to strip it and clean the parts to be shipped. you cant ship something covered in oil still, its classed as dangerous goods living this country. and i cant think of how much cost it'd cost to deliver something like that, if they would.
I will not hone a block if i know the motor is in running condition when i buy it. but if its a rb30 build someone has given up on and the block has been sitting im not going to give a rusty block to someone( unless they are going to enlarge the bores significantly). if a light hone will remove any surface rust and show extensive pitting in bores im not going to sell that type of block to someone wanting to use original bores.

[SomeoneWhoIsntMe]

careful shipping freshly hot tanked and honed blocks across the pacific, lol.

and for what it's worth, I've seen motors come over from japan with fuel still in the rail and oil / ps fluid / whatever dripping.

[projects]

that is the reason i'm not going to tank the parts, will clean them up too nicely. I'm only going to give them a steam blast to take off most of the excess dirt and greasy clumps. Also as stated the parts will be soft sealed with a rust protective coating which will need solvents and steam blasted off once you intend on using the parts.

My Rb26 blocks, cranks, flywheel, Z33 adaptor plate and other parts are currently sitting in this state for nearly 1 year now. and still the same the day i sprayed them

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[projects]

I dont live in Japan, i live in New Zealand. To save the hassle of parts getting rejected or held up cause there a leak coming through a pallet of goods cause some postal guy doesn't want to get his hands dirty. would be to much of a hassle and stuff around for myself and the buyer/s.
I have a way in my head that if i was to purchase some parts that i would expect them to turn up and would expect nothing less. Clean, Packaged, Protected and Secured to a pallet.

[Ktown_drifter]

just as a FYI i have one rb30 block complete from deck down for sale in canada.. will ship to states price is 1200CND plus ship


as for shipping these blocks from newzealand / Aus you can fit 3 blocks to a pallet normally, last bunch we brought in we had 3. mainly because of he build we are doing we wanted to be sure we had extras just in case, plus really ther blocks dont cost much, its the shipping that gets you.. depending on wrecker you get blocks from they normally DO NOT have heads on the so deck down, before ordering do you research on what is needed to do the swap right.

[projects]

Thanks for the input.

i was going to build a order specific pallet, if someone want 1 block i will build it to suit 1 block. if someone wants 2 i will build it for 2. I used to build pallets for an x-ray company shipping their machines all oversea, so have a fair idea on building something to travel.

[S14-vietusmc]

Sounds pretty interesting. I would be interested in a block. Keep us posted. Thanks dude.

[projects]

thanks for showing interest guys.

is there anything else you guys might be wanting sent over as well? steam tube manifolds?

[godzillarb]

If you can fit 3 blocks on the pallet, that's what I'd be interested in. I know a few other guys around here that'd want them, assuming the price is right.

[projects]

i'm guessing you're meaning block,crank,cradle, rods? or just blocks by themselves?

[godzillarb]

The short block. Crank, rods, pistons cradle, etc. Also, I would want business references of some sort. What form of payment were you thinking?

[projects]

yeah a short block was the general idea of what i would ship, but if someone wanted just a block then the are cheap to pick up.

As for business reference, I'm only a Architectural designer with a passion for cars. see Rb30 wanted adds popping up and though i might see if guys wanted some help sourcing the parts.

Payment wise i was just going to recommend a bank deposit but i could set up a paypal account if guys are willing to pay fee's as well (i do not have a pay pal account as they're not used in NZ). But for the safety aspect of the sale and i see they're largely used on ebay and in the US.

[godzillarb]

No offense, but I'd never do a bank deposit, especially with someone overseas... been screwed too many times. PayPal would probably be the way to go.

Keep us updated!

[SMM]

:eek2:1000+hp Nissan RB30 - KANARIS Engines - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ5QYNEKdOg&feature=youtu.be)

[nyc240sx]

i noticed rb30 on ebay sometimes from uk

[projects]

No offense, but I'd never do a bank deposit, especially with someone overseas... been screwed too many times. PayPal would probably be the way to go.

Keep us updated!

Thanks for that info man. I know exactly what you mean, i've also been screwed over the same way. Will look into Paypal tomorrow to make things easier, but all i hear are fee's here and there using them. so will have to take them into account with sales.

[kriss]

so many RB30's in Aus, typically go for around $150aus from most wreckers

[projects]

yeah AUS will be the most populated place of RB30's and cheap. they are here, but not as plentiful cause its easy for guys to do a RB30Det build here and get a reliable 400hp+ from basic mods.

I'm from New Zealand though, and im just looking at providing a service for some guys in the US to get their hands on a RB30 bottom end to build. This isnt a for sale thread im just trying to gain some interest and see if it would be worth while really going ahead with these orders.

I'll show you guys how i plan on doing it all before i go ahead with a sale, I want to provide buyers with as much information and confidence in myself. Im not going to be mad if you can find someone else in AUS to send you a motor. I'll work out costings on shipping pallet materials, shipping costs, my labour to prep everything, the motor or bottom ends.

[projects]

So got a couple shipping quotes back. These are to shipping depots in MIAMI and LAX, so gives you a price range of how much to expect. Here are some of the depots the company here uses in the US, U-Freight Website | Office Information (http://www.ufreight.com/officeLocator/countryCityOffice.do?countryName=U.S.A.&countryId=2)

These are not to your doorstep, if you wanted it sent to your door you can either sort that out with the depot near you. or be prepared to pay more in shipping and i could sort it at this end.

these are worst prices of shipping a whole cubic meter. ie 3 blocks and parts. This does not include any Port charges or Customs clearance charges at your end.

To LA depot it would be $360NZD $297USD
To MIAMI depot it would be $450NZD $372USD

Remember that is a cubic meter price, i could fit 3 blocks in for that price.

I'll price up shipping crates materials and my labour for 1,2,and 3 blocks.

and hopefully have a few local wreckers able to supply parts soon also. and can finalise prices.

[ShadowDrifter]

im doing a 26build now for my hatch man ssend me a PM I may want some things =)

[projects]

Thanks for the interest in this thread at the moment guys. looks like a lot of guys are keen for a RB30 bottom end.

Im currently finishing up my house build here in NZ. so freeing up some cash to purchase the first motor to prep will be on the cards once im moved in and financials are sorted. I am still keeping an eye out for motors or bottom ends here to pick up cheaply in the mean time.

Have had a couple PM's regarding motors, So i'll keep everyone updated along the way.

[usdm180sx]

Anything to de-rail the LS bandwagon train would be welcome lol

[TheRealSy90]

Wonder how many people know 30's are non turbo single cams :P

[usdm180sx]

I thought they came with a turbo in the Nissan Patrol

[TheRealSy90]

Oh yeah some of them did.

[BossHogg]

If the price is right, I might be interested in a few blocks. I have a rb25 and have always thought about doing a rb30. Just didn't want the hassle of finding shit as I'm pretty busy with work all the time. I was just going to resort to tomei rb28 kit. Which I still might do, but rb30 would be pretty neat/different.

[projects]

dam that's even news to me that the RB30 came out in the Nissan patrol. i know that they came out in the Holden commodore here, in a RB30e & a few RB30et single cam turbo models. The Australian R31 skyline also came out with an RB30

Thanks for more interest guys.

[badboy6686]

Wonder how many people know 30's are non turbo single cams :P

The point is to use the bottom end w/ a rb25 or rb26 head.

[Imarvin240]

Wonder how many people know 30's are non turbo single cams :P

The point is to use the bottom end w/ a rb25 or rb26 head.

damn, you commented on it before I could. shows the guy didn't read the fact that "Projects" is shipping short blocks...not long blocks hah. Also, who cares if it didn't come turbo...neither did a dozen other engines that we use and made turbo (i.e. KA, LS, VQ, some jz/rb/sr series engines, and so on)

[projects]

yeah i didnt bother to reply to the single cam comment, cause if you're interested in the RB30. then you'll know all there is to know about them and how to construct a RB30det/t

I'f you want to pay for the head to be shipped, then i will happily organise that for you. Also even though they are factory non turbo the bottom ends are strong enough to handle 1 bar safely.
I will however recommend that when you do build the bottom end back up to get at all balanced up. that was one of the down falls with the motor and limits its rev range.

[jk26]

^^ correct they make a turbo and non turbo block not sure what it came in tho.... to achieve a DOHC guys swap over either a 25 or 26 head. I'm building a rb30 now and I'm using a 26 head... A 25 head bolts right on I believe you just have to mill one of the water journals, 26 head you can either use 25 head studs or re drill and tap the block for 26 studs.

[jk26]

Whoops I didn't realize there was 2 pages...

[95s14rb25]

im interested as well in baltimore.

[mig_909]

Also intrested in la

[holemilk00]

I'll chime in since I've done this before. And I feel like you might want to hear this. I imported 8 of these in short block form with all the accessories. Basically just the head and manifolds were missing. I had four to a pallet, from Australia. By the time I had them on US soil (and I worked for an international company at the time and got deals on shipping) I had around $650 each in the engines. Plus hours and hours and hours of headache. Then I still had to get them from customs to my shop. I put them up for sale for $1200usd because that's what I had seen the few for sale priced at. It took me four years to sell them all. And I didn't sell any of them until I came down to $1000obo each for them and took offers of $900. The last two I had I ended up selling as a set with a fully rebuild rb26 head, valve covers, manifold, turbos, intake, and itbs for $2700 shipped. This was about a year ago. A lot of people have pipe dreams of building these motors. But VERY few people want to put up the cash to actually do it. I had my motors posted on around two dozen forums, and even ran endless eBay auctions with the reserve set at $875 and never sold one on there. Just my .02 but I wouldn't do another group until the economy has drastically recovered and people have learned more about these swaps. One of the motors I sold the customer actually came back to me pissed off because he didn't realize exactly how expensive building a RB30 hybrid was. I ended up buying it back from him just to keep a good reputation for customer service.

[mike10562004]

I would be interested come tax time around Feb. as long as its around the 1-1.3 range.
I'm getting tired of not enough low end :(

-Mike W.

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For those interested, here some parts you might need for the rebuild. I have had good experiences with my RB parts from them. Raw Brokerage Nissan RB30DET Conversion and Performance Parts (http://www.rawbrokerage.com/RB30DETT-Conversion_c88.htm)

[nismoninjagtr]

if theses were selling $800-$900 shipped all day long they would be snatched up but people don't have money to do a proper side rb30 block build i've wanted to and then money gets tight... i'm parting sr build to do an rb build now...

[Coolwhip]

We have RB30 blocks in stock here in the states. Built motors, swap parts, conversion parts, etc. And no, they're not $150 short blocks; we leave those up to those who want to chase them their selves from overseas.

Email me, [email protected]

[[email protected]]

For those interested, here some parts you might need for the rebuild. I have had good experiences with my RB parts from them. Raw Brokerage Nissan RB30DET Conversion and Performance Parts (http://www.rawbrokerage.com/RB30DETT-Conversion_c88.htm)
We have RB30 blocks in stock here in the states. Built motors, swap parts, conversion parts, etc. And no, they're not $150 short blocks; we leave those up to those who want to chase them their selves from overseas.

Email me, [email protected]

Told you, they are really good at keeping in touch. Especially here on the forums. I haven't heard any bad news about them. Anyways, OP what is your price before shipping?

[KOUKIboy]

Anything with RB in front of it is awesome!!!! lol and Nissan Patrol's are Boss!!!!

[androcathr]

Might not have permissions to do a poll.http://www.dvxs.info/a13.jpg

[jimefam]

Projects, if you could work out a final price I probably would be interested in two of them but I only want the block crank and girdle you can keep the rods and pistons as I would be replacing them anyways. You also could look into selling tb48's as that is something I dont think anyone here in the US is doing and I would want one of those if they could be had for a reasonable price.

[K_style]

Not me... .

[drifterjoey]

Any info on price yet, I have been trying to source one and its driving me crazy. Which model are you planning on getting the turbo or na block as that would also make a difference to me.

[S12 Drifter]

people are idiots, end of story. for the price you buy a RB25, a RB20, and RB26 you could have bought a RB30 and just throw a 25 or 26 head on it, change the usual stuff.

more power AND torque?!?!? no question yes please!

the only reason nissan threw a 2.6 in the GT-R is to meet race class specifications, they could have done a RB30 from the factory. but then i think they would have had to run a RWD setup or something like that, i can't remember.

[Corbic]

people are idiots, end of story.


the only reason nissan threw a 2.6 in the gt-r is to meet race class specifications, they could have done a rb30 from the factory. But then i think they would have had to run a rwd setup or something like that, i can't remember.

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people are idiots, end of story.

[projects]

Thanks for all the interest still guys. Still busy finishing up the new house, but have been keeping an eye out for cheap RB30's here to strip. Like everything the demand for them means the price goes up. now to get a 200+ km RB30 motor it costs over $500 NZ. which would not be beneficial to do all the work to as it seems like the $1000 USD mark is what people would like to get them at.

[The Dude]

people are idiots, end of story. for the price you buy a RB25, a RB20, and RB26 you could have bought a RB30 and just throw a 25 or 26 head on it, change the usual stuff.

more power AND torque?!?!? no question yes please!

the only reason nissan threw a 2.6 in the GT-R is to meet race class specifications, they could have done a RB30 from the factory. but then i think they would have had to run a RWD setup or something like that, i can't remember.

If it were that easy then more people would have done it. I looked into this swap 6 or 7 years ago since I already had an rb25 and it seemed like it wasn't going to be worth the money and effort.

Any idea of the weight of the rb30 short block compared to the other rb blocks?

[Matej]

Get me a TB48. :)

[S12 Drifter]

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they had to make a production of at least 1,000 units to meet race class specs in JGTC.

[projects]

Just an update for you guys.

I've managed to pick up a bottom end. I've got my daughters birthday this weekend, so i wont be touching it just yet. but next weekend i'll strip it inspect it and take photos. give it a good steam blast and clean up. i suspect this is a 30ET block as it has all the oil and water ports ready for feeds to the turbo. But this is the first of hopefully more to be shipped to the US provided its in good condition.

[a-s-silvia]

Any blocks make it yet?