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sTvEx
09-20-2012, 10:18 AM
is it safe to give a buyer my complete information with address and vin number?

Cause I know for Hondas it is extremely risky for theft when giving those information out.

A swift reply from you guys would be great!

LOUD240
09-20-2012, 10:21 AM
so why would it be different for a 240?

sTvEx
09-20-2012, 10:24 AM
As far as I see it there's not a lot of 240sx theft compared to civics and integras

EvilRB
09-20-2012, 10:26 AM
yes and no, you are right with being cautious with your information, they could use the info to steal your identity or come to your house and steal your car but how badly do you want to sell your car also?

If your dealing with someone out of state always ask for a deposit through paypal and have them set up the shipping either through towing or flying in and picking it up.
Personally i try to avoid this as much as possible unless they have a high post count on a forum like this or there is some other way to verify their identity.

for your address why do they need it?
you can give them your vin for a carfax check and meet them somewhere public.
Try to think of other ways to protect yourself.

sTvEx
09-20-2012, 10:27 AM
The buyer said that he needed the information in order to get an Auto Loan.

EvilRB
09-20-2012, 10:50 AM
no he doesn't, all he needs is the vin, year, make, mileage, and model.
non of your info is needed.
it's his loan not yours

sTvEx
09-20-2012, 10:52 AM
alright thank you so much evilrb

EvilRB
09-20-2012, 10:54 AM
NP and good luck!

Maaark
09-20-2012, 11:11 AM
I wouldn't trust it you can never be to careful

ChinkyChris
09-20-2012, 11:24 AM
you realize all he needs is your license plate number to figure out your vin right? like from a pic of your car you sent him... Carfax lets you look up vehicle history based off the license plate....

sTvEx
09-20-2012, 11:54 AM
well vin is alright alone, but with the combination of the owner address it could become risky

!Zar!
09-20-2012, 12:43 PM
As if.

I have never heard of a car being stolen because someone got the vin.

The vin is in plain sight on all cars.

Stop trippin.

sTvEx
09-20-2012, 01:08 PM
stolen cars because of vin is very popular in the honda community.

if you were to go to a honda meet (e.g EiBach) you will see that most, if not all of the cars will cover up their vin number with something. Whether it be a business card or a toy.

fliprayzin240sx
09-20-2012, 04:19 PM
If you go to a meet, wouldn't you be more worried of somebody following you home more than anything else?

SomeoneWhoIsntMe
09-20-2012, 04:20 PM
if you go to a honda meet with a decent honda you should be more worried about everything than anything else

thefro526
09-20-2012, 04:53 PM
If you go to a meet, wouldn't you be more worried of somebody following you home more than anything else?

I've been followed home from meets before by Honda kids. Smart/Good thieves aren't the ones that follow you home. They'll write down your tag/vin/identifiable whatever and then have someone search it to find the address.

The kind of person who follows you home is almost always a smash and grab sort of dude - though this is just my experience with both my own cars and other cars parked at our house.

There are a lot of instances of hidden thieves as well, or people who 'tip off' thieves. Someone who knows you may tell someone else where you live, either knowingly or unknowingly, and the now informed thief does the dirty work...

______

Any way, if someone wants to steal your car, they'll steal your car. Your VIN, License Plate (and in some states, registration number) are all clearly visible to anyone who knows where to look.

Best way to protect yourself from theft, if you feel that your car is going to get stolen, is to not draw attention to yourself in public and to be aware of your surroundings and suspicious people. If you think someone is following you home, then don't go home, pull into a random driveway 5 blocks over, or pull into a well lit parking lot where you can be clearly seen and call the police about the suspicious car if it stops.

As far as sales and meet-ups go. It's a good idea to have them meet you somewhere like a Shopping Mall or somewhere similar. You get there before them, but do not park where you instruct them to. When they get there tell them that you're on the way. Now you have the upper hand in the situation and if they look sketchy then you are free to leave... Along with having the bonus of them not knowing where you live exactly.

But I guess it goes without saying that if someone wants to steal your car, they'll steal your car. It's not uncommon in the import world for a thief to come to a job more prepared than an ASE master tech. Swapping ECU's, Checking for Kill Switches, Moving other vehicles to get to yours, bringing a battery, etc all that stuff happens.

/end rant.

Mishkin_707
09-21-2012, 08:35 PM
As if.

I have never heard of a car being stolen because someone got the vin.

The vin is in plain sight on all cars.

Stop trippin.


bam! this man answered the question.

jesse_s13
09-21-2012, 09:02 PM
I've been followed home from meets before by Honda kids. Smart/Good thieves aren't the ones that follow you home. They'll write down your tag/vin/identifiable whatever and then have someone search it to find the address.

The kind of person who follows you home is almost always a smash and grab sort of dude - though this is just my experience with both my own cars and other cars parked at our house.

There are a lot of instances of hidden thieves as well, or people who 'tip off' thieves. Someone who knows you may tell someone else where you live, either knowingly or unknowingly, and the now informed thief does the dirty work...

______

Any way, if someone wants to steal your car, they'll steal your car. Your VIN, License Plate (and in some states, registration number) are all clearly visible to anyone who knows where to look.

Best way to protect yourself from theft, if you feel that your car is going to get stolen, is to not draw attention to yourself in public and to be aware of your surroundings and suspicious people. If you think someone is following you home, then don't go home, pull into a random driveway 5 blocks over, or pull into a well lit parking lot where you can be clearly seen and call the police about the suspicious car if it stops.

As far as sales and meet-ups go. It's a good idea to have them meet you somewhere like a Shopping Mall or somewhere similar. You get there before them, but do not park where you instruct them to. When they get there tell them that you're on the way. Now you have the upper hand in the situation and if they look sketchy then you are free to leave... Along with having the bonus of them not knowing where you live exactly.

But I guess it goes without saying that if someone wants to steal your car, they'll steal your car. It's not uncommon in the import world for a thief to come to a job more prepared than an ASE master tech. Swapping ECU's, Checking for Kill Switches, Moving other vehicles to get to yours, bringing a battery, etc all that stuff happens.

/end rant.

More people need to start practicing these procedures when they do business. These are good examples of how to protect yourself and your assets when doing a "blinded" transaction. I usually never take my s14 when I do these things and always take a buddy(human or Metal)

Less attention less risk.

Punished
09-22-2012, 08:54 AM
They need an auto loan for a 5k car?


As for needing information it could be possible. My federal credit union needs a copy of the title in order to apply for a loan on 7+ year old cars. Pretty much because they have no interest in dealing with it.

When I bought my 240 I met the guy at a DMV for the sale and brought a buddy with me. I had test drove the car prior. We both went in to DMV, transferred the title to me and walked out. I took of his old tags, put mine on and gave him the cash in an envelope for his car.

jr_ss
09-22-2012, 09:57 AM
You can't even get a legit car loan through a bank for a car over 8yrs old. It would have to be a personal loan or another route, too much liability for banks to lend money on cars that old really. It would have to be an outside lender or a dealer qualified for financing.