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vvtisupra
09-18-2012, 04:24 PM
Didn't really know where to put this, but just thought i'd let you guys know about these tires.


Thanks to Nitto and Rhino Custom Detailing ( who I got the tires from) I was fortunate to try these new tires from Nitto called the Nitto Motivos. Don't really know about their availability or their cost, but I was told this would be a replacement to their NT450 and NT555 line. (hahah about time. NT450 & 555 are so out dated and I never found them to be good performers). Seeing as how fall/ winter is on its way and these were all season tires I said why not.

Car is an Evo 8 245/45/17 all around on factory wheels, megan coilovers with 9k front and 10 k rear springs, with a perrin rear sway bar and some cusco bracing. I was switching from 255/35/18 Federal 595 on 18X9.5 +22 RE30's.

Went to City Tires on an early morning to get these tires mounted and balanced and got the car re-aligned back to factory specs. I instantly noticed a change in cabin noise. These tires are QUIET. 595's are known to be noisy but compared to every other tire I've tried these would rival noise levels of the mxv4 from Michellin. Just the noise level alone gave me a great impression of the tires. As far as performance I didn't really get to let loose on these tires since all of the driving i have done since receiving these tires were all street driven. But from the spirited driving that I do, I've noticed good grip however, the sidewall does flex considerably. Maybe its because I am running a 45 series sidewall, but on turn it its a little lazy. Even on normal driving i feel like a lot of the rebound is not from the suspension compliance, but more so from the sidewall flex. This was set at factory pressures. Once you get through the sidewall flex the compound actually grips, so going into a turn you'll feel a slight delay and then the tire will grip. I'd compare the mechanical grip to be similar to the Dunlop FM901's, which I don't think is bad for an all season tires. I bet these tires would be good for the guys who like to hella stretch their tires.

Lets face it, this summer has been dry in so cal, so wet performance is very limited. I probably have only about 2 days worth of wet driving and that's where these tires shined the most. I wish I still had my 240. These would probably be great to slide int he rain. In fact, when i was driving in the rain I was instantly reminded of this past Just Drift Top Drift Balcony round when it was raining like crazy. I could name quite a few guys that could have benefited from this awesome wet performing tire especially Jason Kim.

Anyways, just a heads up to you guys who like to drift in the rain you might want to try a pair, you can always benefit from additional grip in the rain. Another genre that might benefit from these quiet tires would be the VIP guys who like to stretch tires and who like comfort.


Cliff Notes:

Pros:
Quiet tires
Comfort
Tire compound
Wet Performance

Cons:
Soft Sidewall


Thanks,
Steve C.

PS admins maybe we can get a tire tech section going. I know a lot of us performance oriented guys have tried multiple types of tires. It would be nice to get a data base and maybe a spread sheet going of the tires tested, because I don't really trust the reviews on places like tire rack, because those guys don't drive as hard as we do.

towlie
09-18-2012, 06:25 PM
Megan's on an evo??

Nice to see feedback on such a new tire tho.

xoxide
09-18-2012, 08:35 PM
Solid review, nice job man... Coilover-reviewers take note. :drama:

fliprayzin240sx
09-18-2012, 09:35 PM
We had a thread where people talked about different tires we've all used and opinions on them, can't find it right now tho.

Anyways, didn't know Nitto got a new tire. When you said Motivo, I thought you were talking about the Invo. I'm still partial to Dunlop Star Specs, think for the price, they are well worth it.

vvtisupra
09-18-2012, 10:12 PM
yah megans on an evo. Megan is a sponsor to just drift so i wanted to give them a try. I've had my fairshare of quality coilovers in all my 240's. I was hard headed and wanted to mess around with a set of megans with varying spring rates/ preload /droop and helper springs. After 4 sets of springs 2 helper springs and changes in preload, I have the megans pretty dialed.

Also you cannot compare a tire like the star specs to the motivo's. The motivo is more of a all season performance tire than an ultra performance summer tire. I can't wait to try the motivo and evos in the snow. I heard they do well in the snow.

Dustxking
09-18-2012, 10:14 PM
Also all of the Nitto Motivo's come with a 60k mileage warranty. Obviously if your car isnt lowered or your alignment isnt out of adjustment.

vvtisupra
09-19-2012, 09:52 AM
Also all of the Nitto Motivo's come with a 60k mileage warranty. Obviously if your car isnt lowered or your alignment isnt out of adjustment.

holy crap 60 K miles ! thats gnarly. The tread compound feels soft. But maybe it has a lot less rolling resistance allowing them to have a such a good tread life.

zooopreme
09-19-2012, 10:05 AM
This is a real nice review.

Just out of curiosity though, for wet driving, did you drive when it immediately rained? Or did you drive when it had been raining? It's a little more slippery on the first couple of days of rain.

vvtisupra
09-19-2012, 10:13 AM
correct i was driving during the beginning hours of the rain when the ground is most slick. I took that into consideration. I also drove towards the end of a rain session to confirm. Great wet performance from the limited rain that I was able to drive on.

zooopreme
09-19-2012, 10:15 AM
correct i was driving during the beginning hours of the rain when the ground is most slick. I took that into consideration. I also drove towards the end of a rain session to confirm. Great wet performance from the limited rain that I was able to drive on.

Awesome. That's exactly what I wanted to know, looks like I'm going to definitely give these a try on my S13.

DJ-of-E
09-19-2012, 11:18 AM
We had a thread where people talked about different tires we've all used and opinions on them, can't find it right now tho.

Anyways, didn't know Nitto got a new tire. When you said Motivo, I thought you were talking about the Invo. I'm still partial to Dunlop Star Specs, think for the price, they are well worth it.

Expect the prices of Dunlop Star Specs to go up like A LOT next year. SCCA pretty much required "street tire" classes to have treadwear 180 or higher. That means unless the RS3 get revamped for 180 treadwear, the next tire people will go for in competition is the D1 Star Specs :down:

I'm curious for the price of these tires as well considering Continental DWS pretty much set the standard for street all-season tires.

vvtisupra
09-19-2012, 11:39 AM
advan AD08 which i think are far better than the star specs are also 180 trade wear

and the 615 k are 200 tread wear.

achilles 123S are 220 tread wear.

I think there are plenty of competiiton dot tires that are ready for the new tire specs

vvtisupra
09-27-2012, 02:56 PM
OH DAMN! Cars, food, travel and everything in between | Review: Nitto Motivo Tire (http://www.ohdamn.co/2012/09/27/review-nitto-motivo-tire/)


Here is our review on Ohdamn.co

enkei2k
09-27-2012, 03:00 PM
We had a thread where people talked about different tires we've all used and opinions on them, can't find it right now tho.

Anyways, didn't know Nitto got a new tire. When you said Motivo, I thought you were talking about the Invo. I'm still partial to Dunlop Star Specs, think for the price, they are well worth it.


http://zilvia.net/f/chat/203345-tire-review-thread.html

or

http://zilvia.net/f/chat/237894-tire-reviews.html

fliprayzin240sx
09-28-2012, 07:51 AM
^^^ I knew there were a couple of them out there...Can we sticky one of them on top of Chat to make one of them "Official"?

JKim0901
11-02-2012, 11:31 PM
Sorry if this is in the wrong section, the review section seemed more like a place for other members or shops so i put it in chat

Hey guys this is the frist time ive ever written a review about anything so bare with me if you guys are reading this

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/JKim0901/2012-11-02111439.jpg

i was recently chosen to be in the NITTO Tire program offered by the guys overs at RHINO CUSTOM DETAILING in Huntington beach CA. The owner Alex Lee was kind enough to set me up to test out the Nitto Motivo tires on my 350z

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/JKim0901/2012-11-02111456.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/JKim0901/2012-11-02111516.jpg

prior to these tires ive used the dunlop direzzas dz101 and the kumho asx all in 255 35 and 275 35 18s on the same set of wheels and car and the Motivo's performance in the dry is actually very comparable to the dunlop direzzas (ill soon find out how they are in the rain in the short time it rains in so cal). the road noise is a bit louder than the kumho and overall im very impressed with the tire.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/JKim0901/2012-11-02111557.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/JKim0901/2012-11-02111615.jpg

before trying out the Motivo the only tires i considered buying from Nitto were the NT01s and the NT05s depending on the application, the Motivo is no where near what the other 2 are and i wasnt a big fan of their previous all seasons the NT555 (or as i like to call them NT555lide) but the Motivo i believe is replacing that tire and its a huge improvement over the NT555.

all in all if you are looking for a good high performance all season tire for your daily driver give the Motivo a try, you wont be disappointed!!!

Teddy
11-02-2012, 11:41 PM
Thank you for this review, JKim0901.

fliprayzin240sx
11-03-2012, 10:45 PM
Somebody actually beat you to a review by a couple of months...

http://zilvia.net/f/chat/477835-tire-review-nitto-motivos.html

If they're using this to replace the 555s, there'd be alot of pissssssed off people since I know a butt load of folks who love the 555 Drag radial. Then again, Nitto already makes 2 sets of NT05s with a drag version of. But at the same time, I'm not sold on the NT05s as a daily driver set of tires. Too shallow of a thread depth, they dont exactly last long before they're near slicks and I like driving in the rain with threads.

Quick glance of this tire...I'm not a fan of it already. I hate asymmetrical threads, I can't flip the tires to get more life out of them.

enkei2k
11-05-2012, 08:22 AM
Somebody actually beat you to a review by a couple of months...

http://zilvia.net/f/chat/477835-tire-review-nitto-motivos.html



merged both threads together to reduce multiple threads.

JKim0901
11-05-2012, 02:59 PM
i see that now, steve (vvtisupra) and i were both participants and since he had a evo i thought he would post it in the evo forums haha