SR motor 'suddenly' off center

[Drifting-pedobear]

Hey guys.

quick back story, i had the shitty yellow mounts that that dude on here makes (dont buy them, they are shit)- and i still think they are, sorry bros.

this happened at an event, no crashing, just good ol drifto:
http://i.imgur.com/UwX3i.jpg


on the way home, a 5 hour drive, the exhaust falls off (wut) just a stock exhaust. must have sheared the bolts, and broke the rubber hangers. my luck was pretty shit. (at the time i didnt know i had the busted mounts.


i limp it home and notice that suddenly, putting it into 5th hits the shifter trim on the inside of the car.

i get it in the air and notice the mounts are broken, and when inspecting the tranny mounty, find that it has sheared the bolts holding the mount on.

sick.



so i put on stock mounts, but when i go to bolt up the tranny crossmember, it takes all me and my friends force to get the holes to line up (its way off, like way off...) and we use a crowbar to pull it over and bolt it up. something is obviously wrong...

i go to do a little spin. and after the first drift, the shifter is back over again.


so i took some pics, maybe you guys will notice i installed something wrong (the motor mounts backwards or upside down or some stupid shit).


any ideas?
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[cotbu]

so i took some pics, maybe you guys will notice i installed something wrong (the motor mounts backwards or upside down or some stupid shit).
any ideas?

Couple thousand words!

http://i.imgur.com/fPfH0.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/0mNHI.jpg

[DreEzed]

Holy shit my head hurts...

[hartig]

just to mention this, but i have the green mounts and trans mount and i have had no problems like this..

[Memberofthe600hpkaclub]

Uhh bent mount brackets?

[fliprayzin240sx]

Loosen the mounts, try to support the engine off cross member w/ something and get a pry bay to push the tranny towards the driver side. That should help get it back centered.

[Drifting-pedobear]

just to mention this, but i have the green mounts and trans mount and i have had no problems like this..

they are made like shit, designed like shit.

Uhh bent mount brackets?

the fuck is a mount bracket? you mean crossmember? or where its being considered.

Loosen the mounts, try to support the engine off cross member w/ something and get a pry bay to push the tranny towards the driver side. That should help get it back centered.

yea, but it will just go back after that: there is massive tension on the motor pushing it to the side coming from the front somehow/where.

[jr_ss]

A. they are made like shit, designed like shit, and the dude who makes them had never even used them/seen a 240... call em what you want, they are shitty.

B. the fuck is a mount bracket? you mean crossmember? or where its being considered.

yea, but it will just go back after that: there is massive tension on the motor pushing it to the side coming from the front somehow/where.

A. You bought them? Or atleast purchased the car with them...

B. A mount bracket is the actual bracket the mount bolts to, which is in turn bolted to the side of the engine.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Pictures that Cotbu picked out...crossmember look preeeety tweaked. Whole shit could be bent on that side.

[merijndj]

My ca18det is also slightly off center like this one, but nothing is bent or changed. Cant find anything wrong on my car, nothing bent like on the pictures above..
Other then my engine and transmission mounts then.
Picture of the mounts i got: http://www10.pic-upload.de/09.09.12/wdxjqq52fuco.jpg

[jr_ss]

Pictures that Cotbu picked out...crossmember look preeeety tweaked. Whole shit could be bent on that side.

Yep, that crossmember needs to be replaced...

[brndck]

wow that x-member is FUCKED.

[zerodameaon]

So your cross member being bent is most likely the cause of the mounts breaking. If you look at the stock mounts they are tweaked to and are not going to last long.

they are made like shit, designed like shit, and the dude who makes them had never even used them/seen a 240... call em what you want, they are shitty.
Uhhh... Those are 240s right? Do your research before you call someone out on something.
http://zilvia.net/f/gallery-333.html.

[S14DB]

Your Cross-member/Subframe is bent to hell. Seeing how the rest of you undercarriage is bashed to hell. I wouldn't doubt other things are bent also. Seeing how bent the stock mounts are sitting I am sure they will fail too.



My ca18det is also slightly off center like this one, but nothing is bent or changed. Cant find anything wrong on my car, nothing bent like on the pictures above..
Other then my engine and transmission mounts then.
Picture of the mounts i got: http://www10.pic-upload.de/09.09.12/wdxjqq52fuco.jpg
CA18 mounts are different. If you use SR mounts it will sit weird.

[xoxide]

You need to learn how to drive a lowered car.. The whole underside of your car is destroyed... Im not surprised at all your mounts tore.

[drift freaq]

Hmm first off it looks like you went off track in a drift and smashed the underside of your car bending the crossmember and other things. I can guarantee an engine mount faliure would not bend a crossmember.
You are trying to say that the mounts broke and the crossmember bent? Ah that is a big stretch.

Oh and did you have a heat shield on them or heat wrap? Like I tell everyone who buys them to do? If you did not than ya failure can happen because Turbos get damn hot. Even stock mounts without heat shields can melt from Turbo heat. That is why the factory puts a heat shield even on non turbo engines.

Second off, Those are Yellows which are at least 2 years old. I don't even make those anymore.
Now I know you say it just happened at an event, but you know what I warranty my mounts.
They have a limited manufacturers warranty against workmanship defects. Now obviously you have been tracking and drifting your car for awhile on them. No manufacturer warranties a product for track use due to the fact that other circumstances can cause failure. Here it clearly looks like that.




Did you even buy them from me. If so It would have been over year ago at the latest. Plus you did not even contact me before posting.

You do not know or know how many 240's I have owned and own and the fact that indeed I have driven my car with my mounts.
You make some pretty slanderous accusations here.

I am sorry but I will say it again mount failure will not bend a crossmember that takes an accident at some time and judging from your pics your crossmember has been been for awhile as there is surface rust. That could easily alter the situation especially if your trans mount had failed which you claimed it did.

[Jersthecool]

Your crossmember is fucked because you bent it and those mounts are awesome btw have the green ones on my car and they're perfect. Were you even using anything heat resistant on them?

[Drifting-pedobear]

A. You bought them? Or atleast purchased the car with them...

B. A mount bracket is the actual bracket the mount bolts to, which is in turn bolted to the side of the engine.

bought them. the design is just really poor, and just cracked after 10 events or so.

Pictures that Cotbu picked out...crossmember look preeeety tweaked. Whole shit could be bent on that side.

yea, i feel like its cosmetic, but its my main suspect, its hard to see if its tweaked beyond just cosmetics; im working on getting another, as ive ruled out most other things. its just too coincidental that the 'cosmetic' damage is on the side that would, if tweaked, make the motor do what its doing.

My ca18det is also slightly off center like this one, but nothing is bent or changed. Cant find anything wrong on my car, nothing bent like on the pictures above..
Other then my engine and transmission mounts then.
Picture of the mounts i got: http://www10.pic-upload.de/09.09.12/wdxjqq52fuco.jpg

yea different motor, different mounts, thanks tho.

Yep, that crossmember needs to be replaced...

im thinking this might be the case as well.

wow that x-member is FUCKED.

yea, pretty baws.

So your cross member being bent is most likely the cause of the mounts breaking. If you look at the stock mounts they are tweaked to and are not going to last long.


Uhhh... Those are 240s right? Do your research before you call someone out on something.
http://zilvia.net/f/gallery-333.html.

not sure what that picture is suppose to prove, but i was wrong in that he has never seen a 240, i got him mixed up with another duder.

but it doesnt change that they are crappy, and the design is poor. and im not the only one to have this happen, not even close.



Your Cross-member/Subframe is bent to hell. Seeing how the rest of you undercarriage is bashed to hell. I wouldn't doubt other things are bent also. Seeing how bent the stock mounts are sitting I am sure they will fail too.




CA18 mounts are different. If you use SR mounts it will sit weird.

yea im thinking the xmember might be the issue, its hard to tell if the damage is beyond cosmetic, buts its just too coincidental.

You need to learn how to drive a lowered car.. The whole underside of your car is destroyed... Im not surprised at all your mounts tore.

do i need to learn how to make the ground farther from the bottom of my car? i dont park this in a garage i drive it and crash into things and do stuff... and not every track is a glass surface.

Hmm first off it looks like you went off track in a drift and smashed the underside of your car bending the crossmember and other things. I can guarantee an engine mount faliure would not bend a crossmember.
You are trying to say that the mounts broke and the crossmember bent? Ah that is a big stretch.

Oh and did you have a heat shield on them or heat wrap? Like I tell everyone who buys them to do? If you did not than ya failure can happen because Turbos get damn hot. Even stock mounts without heat shields can melt from Turbo heat. That is why the factory puts a heat shield even on non turbo engines.

Second off, Those are Yellows which are at least 2 years old. I don't even make those anymore.
Now I know you say it just happened at an event, but you know what I warranty my mounts.
They have a limited manufacturers warranty against workmanship defects. Now obviously you have been tracking and drifting your car for awhile on them. No manufacturer warranties a product for track use due to the fact that other circumstances can cause failure. Here it clearly looks like that.




Did you even buy them from me. If so It would have been over year ago at the latest. Plus you did not even contact me before posting.

You do not know or know how many 240's I have owned and own and the fact that indeed I have driven my car with my mounts.
You make some pretty slanderous accusations here.

I am sorry but I will say it again mount failure will not bend a crossmember that takes an accident at some time and judging from your pics your crossmember has been been for awhile as there is surface rust. That could easily alter the situation especially if your trans mount had failed which you claimed it did.


naw, never flown off track, but i have bottemed out plenty, but that is common enough.

im not saying that they broke the crossmember... im saying they broke, period. im sure that something went wrong and they broke, but i was just unimpressed with the quality of the material and design. if i had stock mounts they would not have broken.

i had them heat wrapped, you can see it in the picture. i also have a heat shield on my turbo.

i bought the mounts after someone bought them from you, and one broke at the first event, then you replaced it, so they were new when i got them. its was 1 year agoish.
i understand, its a track product and whatever. but they only need to hold a motor, and unless im flying head first into a wall, they should hold just fine.
i didnt contact you because it doesnt matter, im not posting in your review thread, leaving neg rep or whatever dumb shit i can do; im just giving my opinion that they were not good, and moving on. thread is about why my pile of shit is being extra shitty.

i was totally wrong about you never seen a 240, that was another person, apparently, i just got my gossip mixed. i do apologize for that.

but i still thing the design is poor, and the materials are mediocore. but i dont care, its whatever.

again, not saying it was the mounts failing that damaged my corssmember, the mount failure was caused by something, which in turn, probably caused the tranny bolts to shear.
but i still think they are designed poorly. regardless of how many bros claim they are the shit and make them drift hella hard sick.

Your crossmember is fucked because you bent it and those mounts are awesome btw have the green ones on my car and they're perfect. Were you even using anything heat resistant on them?

or is it bent because its fucked?
are they? my mistake, i had no idea how jawls they really are!! tell me about how much extra jawls baws your drifts are!!
yes i was, obviously...

[S14DB]

Your mounts should be at around a 45* the stock mounts in your picture looks almost 90*

[Drifting-pedobear]

Your mounts should be at around a 45* the stock mounts in your picture looks almost 90*

not sure the angle you are talking about?

[Wabash9000]

lol. subing to this shit.


The engine/trans attaches in 3 locations. The item that 2 of them attach to has major damage, and you don't think that is the reason that your mounts have failed?

[EDacIouSX]

yea, i feel like its cosmetic, but its my main suspect, its hard to see if its tweaked beyond just cosmetics;


uh. are you for real? Just cosmetics?

[Drifting-pedobear]

please, its a fucking massive brace, having the bottem peeling up from being low is nothing, its not a single piece after all, the bottem part peeling off is not structural really. many people whos cars are low have there shit scrapped up, this isnt news.

[EDacIouSX]

please, its a fucking massive brace, having the bottem peeling up from being low is nothing, its not a single piece after all, the bottem part peeling off is not structural really. many people whos cars are low have there shit scrapped up, this isnt news.

you're effin stupid. close this thread mods please. :lockd::lockd::lockd::lockd::lockd::lockd::lockd:: lockd::lockd::lockd::lockd::lockd::lockd:

[Drifting-pedobear]

lol. subing to this shit.


The engine/trans attaches in 3 locations. The item that 2 of them attach to has major damage, and you don't think that is the reason that your mounts have failed?


i think that may have been a reason yes, but im not replacing that till ive ruled out other shit.


man, does no one believe in low cars anymore? blowing up road turtles isnt a game, its a lyfestyle.

[Drifting-pedobear]

you're effin stupid. close this thread mods please. :lockd::lockd::lockd::lockd::lockd::lockd::lockd:: lockd::lockd::lockd::lockd::lockd::lockd:


oh please, this aint even bad. yea its all mangled, but guess what, the lower plate holds nothing on, its just a metal sheet.

im not saying that it isnt the issue. but seriously, ive seen worse.


if this thread is such a head sore, i have some crazy advice; dont come in here. boom.

[KoukiMonsta]

please, its a fucking massive brace, having the bottem peeling up from being low is nothing, its not a single piece after all, the bottem part peeling off is not structural really. many people whos cars are low have there shit scrapped up, this isnt news.

I agree scraped up is common. But I'd say what you have is a bit more than cosmetic.

Now I'm no engineer, well actually....but I'd guess the tweaked crossmember put the mounts in a position where they were subject to force that was not intended, thus busting the mounts.

THIS IS MY THOUGHTS/OPINION, PLEASE DON'T HATE ME FOR TRYING TO HELP

[EDacIouSX]

you have MODERATORS giving you advice on what the problem is and you dismiss them. give me a break. you've had a 240 since what? 2009? and moderators have had 240s for how long? Seriously?

[Drifting-pedobear]

I agree scraped up is common. But I'd say what you have is a bit more than cosmetic.

Now I'm no engineer, well actually....but I'd guess the tweaked crossmember put the mounts in a position where they were subject to force that was not intended, thus busting the mounts.

THIS IS MY THOUGHTS/OPINION, PLEASE DON'T HATE ME FOR TRYING TO HELP

I hate you already.

ive seen worse, but its pretty boss. apparently people think im in denial about it, but i also think it might be the issue, but i also think it might not. maybe its just the pircute, but you have to understand, the bottem is bent up, but the top looks still straight, the mounting points arent ovaled, bent, crooked, the bolts and sitting right... im just still skeptical.

but since no one has seen any obvious things that i messed up when doing this (i was in a hurry) then ive narrowed it down to only a few things; one being the crossmember.

you have MODERATORS giving you advice on what the problem is and you dismiss them. give me a break. you've had a 240 since what? 2009? and moderators have had 240s for how long? Seriously?

wut? i like you, your silly.
where did i disagree with a mod (btw, mod=automatic 240 mechanic god) because it looks like ive agreed with all posts by them...
lots of questions you. so curious, i like that in a man...

ive had one since 2009. and i still dont have a clue about them.
but i know people who have had them since idk, 2008, and know everything about them.

your logic suggest that my 78 y/o firends neighbor, who has had a 240 since 91 must know everyhting about it!! shit, i should ask her about my issues!!

god your sexy when youre right.

[EDacIouSX]

Your mounts should be at around a 45* the stock mounts in your picture looks almost 90*

Clearly you have no idea what you're talking about, it's a life style: :rolleyes:

please, its a fucking massive brace, having the bottem peeling up from being low is nothing, its not a single piece after all, the bottem part peeling off is not structural really. many people whos cars are low have there shit scrapped up, this isnt news.


i think that may have been a reason yes, but im not replacing that till ive ruled out other shit.


man, does no one believe in low cars anymore? blowing up road turtles isnt a game, its a lyfestyle.


btw, BOTTEM is not a word. it's BOTTOM. I was going to give you the benefit of the doubt that it was a typo but you did it twice in a row.

[zerodameaon]

You didn't only bend the bottom buddy, you also bent the front vertical area right above that bottom skin. Bent is bent on something vital like that, its an issue every lowered car has to deal with yes, but its not something you should just write off like your doing.

Also you have a SR so we expect you to know something about it, and given you have had a 240 for 3 years we also expect you to pick something about them up along the way. Though its pretty apparent you're just a poser.

[xoxide]

So... According to you, driving a car with a fucked undercarriage from driving a slammed car is boss? I thought id heard it all.. I was wrong.

[Turtle]

man, does no one believe in low cars anymore? blowing up road turtles isnt a game, its a lyfestyle.


with comments like this its pretty obvious this guy is just a poser. Thinkin things are JdM TyTe y0!

We don't need people like you in this community, blaming others for your screw ups, grow up bud.

[oni jake]

OP thinks this shit will buff right now. Purely cosmetic damage. Two pills of Advil and it'll be just fine.

http://i.imgur.com/fPfH0.jpg



Serious man, I've driven cars on the frame rails and never received damage like this. I've mountaineered cars across the Mt. Everest of pot holes and track debris, hitting some hard stuff along the way, and yet, never have I hit my cross member with such force to cause that amount of damage. It makes me believe the entire member was hit hard enough to bend and tweak all sorts of goodies as well. Replace cross member, install whatever mounts you want, and if you still have the same problem, then come back posting like a boss.

Oh sorry, I meant that in retarded speech, BAWS.

[ka-titties]

can you post a few more pictures, i'm not getting a good idea of what you're talking about.



but seriously, you need to replace your crossmember.

[jr_ss]

Hey "BAWS" it is structural damage and not just peeling the bottom off. You can see that it has your steering rack out of perpendicular from the frame rails. Your logic dumbfounds me...

[Drifting-pedobear]

Clearly you have no idea what you're talking about, it's a life style: :rolleyes:







btw, BOTTEM is not a word. it's BOTTOM. I was going to give you the benefit of the doubt that it was a typo but you did it twice in a row.


oh shit, grammar is coming into this, thats how you know its serious.

i give up, you win, i spell'd bottem rong.



why cant i be srmt like u!?

problem is now you got me all hot and heavy, becuase sexy men who can correct a persons grammar/spelling online are so sexy...

[Drifting-pedobear]

You didn't only bend the bottom buddy, you also bent the front vertical area right above that bottom skin. Bent is bent on something vital like that, its an issue every lowered car has to deal with yes, but its not something you should just write off like your doing.

Also you have a SR so we expect you to know something about it, and given you have had a 240 for 3 years we also expect you to pick something about them up along the way. Though its pretty apparent you're just a poser.

ha, please, im the real deal.
http://i2.listal.com/image/1418802/500full.jpg

So... According to you, driving a car with a fucked undercarriage from driving a slammed car is boss? I thought id heard it all.. I was wrong.

i believe a thank you is in order?
i showed you the light.

with comments like this its pretty obvious this guy is just a poser. Thinkin things are JdM TyTe y0!

We don't need people like you in this community, blaming others for your screw ups, grow up bud.

youre right, this problem is someone else's fault. this is exactly what i have been saying.
you see right through me, turtle.
turly, it is not you who has the shell, but I, that with which i cower under and, 'pose' to be a jdm tyte drifter.

https://notagoblinbutatroll.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/images2.jpeg

OP thinks this shit will buff right now. Purely cosmetic damage. Two pills of Advil and it'll be just fine.



Serious man, I've driven cars on the frame rails and never received damage like this. I've mountaineered cars across the Mt. Everest of pot holes and track debris, hitting some hard stuff along the way, and yet, never have I hit my cross member with such force to cause that amount of damage. It makes me believe the entire member was hit hard enough to bend and tweak all sorts of goodies as well. Replace cross member, install whatever mounts you want, and if you still have the same problem, then come back posting like a boss.

Oh sorry, I meant that in baws speech, BAWS.

hey, fixed that for ya cutie

can you post a few more pictures, i'm not getting a good idea of what you're talking about.



but seriously, you need to replace your crossmember.

you should see the exterior, 2x as boss.


Hey "BAWS" it is structural damage and not just peeling the bottom off. You can see that it has your steering rack out of perpendicular from the frame rails. Your logic dumbfounds me...

thanks boss, i hate it when i get out of perpendicular.

[KiLLeR2001]

You should probably stop posting at this point, you're just digging yourself into a hole.

Things to take away from this thread:

- Drifting-pedobear is an individual who thinks destroying the front cross-member on the pavement is a legitimate accomplishment.
- Drift Freaq makes awesome engine mounts and stands by his product 100%.

What's next? Are you going to write a formal complaint to Nissan for not constructing a cross member strong enough to uphold your on-track drifting failures?

Get lost kid.

[Drifting-pedobear]

You should probably stop posting at this point, you're just digging yourself into a hole.

Things to take away from this thread:

- Drifting-pedobear is an individual who thinks destroying the front cross-member on the pavement is a legitimate accomplishment.
- Drift Freaq makes awesome engine mounts and stands by his product 100%.

What's next? Are you going to write a formal complaint to Nissan for not constructing a cross member strong enough to uphold your on-track drifting failures?

Get lost kid.


id like to get lost.

in your eyes.

[towlie]

Who is trolling who

[Drifting-pedobear]

Who is trolling who

but the real question is, whom is trolling whom.

[fliprayzin240sx]

i think that may have been a reason yes, but im not replacing that till ive ruled out other shit.


man, does no one believe in low cars anymore? blowing up road turtles isnt a game, its a lyfestyle.

Wow, really? Your oil pan is a speed bump away from ripping the fuck off, enjoy the "Lyfestyle" when it leaves you stranded on the side of a road with a blown engine.

No a fucking skid plate wont protect the pan from being pushed up on the sump...

[Drifting-pedobear]

Wow, really? Your oil pan is a speed bump away from ripping the fuck off, enjoy the "Lyfestyle" when it leaves you stranded on the side of a road with a blown engine.

No a fucking skid plate wont protect the pan from being pushed up on the sump...


i dont have a skid plate.

[fliprayzin240sx]

i dont have common sense.

:facepalm:

[Darren]

i dont have a skid plate.

you stated that you were going to put one in.... he's saying it won't help.

Maybe instead of trolling all these fine Zilvians, you're time would be better served wrenching on your car and trying to find an answer.

Wait... people here have given you one... replace the x-member :)

Good luck

[Drifting-pedobear]

:facepalm:

bigger one: :picardfp:

you stated that you were going to put one in.... he's saying it won't help.

Maybe instead of trolling all these fine Zilvians, you're time would be better served wrenching on your car and trying to find an answer.

Wait... people here have given you one... replace the x-member :)

Good luck

where did i say i was going to put one on?

[OutlawLui]

*Pictures larger than monitor


if you guys have trouble looking at them just hold Ctrl and hit "-" until you can view lol

[Drifting-pedobear]

just refresh the page, they will shrink

[zerodameaon]

just refresh the page, they will shrink

Wow what browser do you have Baws, is it Internet ExBawser? I need me one of those.

BTW your intro is blatantly an attack on Drift Freaq even though you swear up and down it is not. If his mounts are not part of the problem then why even mention them. Sell your 240, go get a Honda that runs and worry about when the service intervals are.

[Drifting-pedobear]

Wow what browser do you have Baws, is it Internet ExBawser? I need me one of those.

BTW your intro is blatantly an attack on Drift Freaq even though you swear up and down it is not. If his mounts are not part of the problem then why even mention them. Sell your 240, go get a Honda that runs and worry about when the service intervals are.

i use firebaws.

i dont sware it isnt, but its not.
the mounts are unimpressive, take it for whatever you want, its what i think. im not the only one to have them break. and after seeing how they are made, it only reinforces how poorly they are designed.

not attacking driftfreaq or whatever, just saying his product is weak.

[ghoti]

look kid, there is a lot of negative shit in here.
yea, ya goof'd, but its not the end of the world.



all in all, you didn't come out on top, but its not a fucking automotive apocalypse like people are screaming.
just chin up, move on, and do work.

Some words of advice from your past.

[blueshark123]

I have seen cross members in better condition's that were tweaked. Go fucking fix it and stop asking for help if your not gonna fucking take it you immature little bitch.

[ericcastro]

wow.

I have not seen a idiot like this since my days of Trolling Eddie/Zgirl and those other inbreds years ago. lol

Mounts are fine.


You hit the transmission pretty hard by the looks of it.
So thats what ripped your tranny mount off, and pulled it back to one side i would guess.
Now any tweak to the front, even 1/8", makes a huge difference considering the distance from what has become the fulcrum/pivot point(which would be center engine between the mounts.)
And it looks like you tweaked it pretty hard.

Thankgod you had those yellow mounts, because with an engine sitting sideways in a car, no transmission mounts, a lowered car vibrating all the way home,

............ well, lets say those mounts probably saved your engine from falling on the ground and your car from polevaulting over it.


My question is drift king, how the fuck did you not feel these issues and vibration at the track?? i can feel the smallest issue in my car. thats a big part of driving a car at the track.

[Drifting-pedobear]

Some words of advice from your past.

thanks, it does still apply to that thread, and i enjoy that post, but this thread is much more fun than that one.

man i am articulate.

I have seen cross members in better condition's that were tweaked. Go fucking fix it and stop asking for help if your not gonna fucking take it you immature little bitch.

hey man, you better watch your mouth, thats not very christian.
i feel like im in prison with that "take it" stuff...

[Drifting-pedobear]

wow.

I have not seen a idiot like this since my days of Trolling Eddie/Zgirl and those other inbreds years ago. lol

Mounts are fine.


You hit the transmission pretty hard by the looks of it.
So thats what ripped your tranny mount off, and pulled it back to one side i would guess.
Now any tweak to the front, even 1/8", makes a huge difference considering the distance from what has become the fulcrum/pivot point(which would be center engine between the mounts.)
And it looks like you tweaked it pretty hard.

Thankgod you had those yellow mounts, because with an engine sitting sideways in a car, no transmission mounts, a lowered car vibrating all the way home,

............ well, lets say those mounts probably saved your engine from falling on the ground and your car from polevaulting over it.


My question is drift king, how the fuck did you not feel these issues and vibration at the track?? i can feel the smallest issue in my car. thats a big part of driving a car at the track.


which mounts are fine? becuase i replaced them, so in know they are fine, it was weather or not i derped and didnt something wrong when doing it.

what makes you think i hit the tranny? i suppse its possible, but i dont remember hitting the tranny.

yea, i think that the issue is the front, like you said about the pivot and shit.

i had a tranny mount- the bolts were just gone.
2 blocks of wood would have stopped the motor from falling out... or if i had kept stock mounts

i felt some issues, but i dont really care, its just a 240. plus it was towards the end of the day that things started to feel off. and it wasnt till the ride home that things really went wrong.

i can feel small issue when im "at the track" but i just dont care, unless they are big issues, then i care.
its drifting.

[ghoti]

thanks, it does still apply to that thread, and i enjoy that post, but this thread is much more fun than that one.

man i am articulate.



... i dont really care, its just a 240

.... but i just dont care, unless they are big issues, then i care.
its drifting.

Saying you don't care then you care is an oxymoron.
So yeah that quote, is still relevant to this.

[ericcastro]

which mounts are fine? becuase i replaced them, so in know they are fine, it was weather or not i derped and didnt something wrong when doing it.

what makes you think i hit the tranny? i suppse its possible, but i dont remember hitting the tranny.

yea, i think that the issue is the front, like you said about the pivot and shit.

i had a tranny mount- the bolts were just gone.
2 blocks of wood would have stopped the motor from falling out... or if i had kept stock mounts

i felt some issues, but i dont really care, its just a 240. plus it was towards the end of the day that things started to feel off. and it wasnt till the ride home that things really went wrong.

i can feel small issue when im "at the track" but i just dont care, unless they are big issues, then i care.
its drifting.

Have you seen the bottom of your tranny?
That metal is very strong, so to grind in grooves like that, you really hit it.

Your tranny mount bolts where missing?? not sheared?

You do understand, that no engine mount can survive a day of dirt drop drifting with only the carrier bearings stabalizing the tranny via the drive shaft.

Not to mention any impact you had on the front of the car.


I think that those yellow bushings did much better then stock under those conditions.
And I also think its a waste that you dont take better care of your car, because you wouldnt have ruined those engine mounts.
Its completely your fault the mounts failed.
It would be like me putting one lug nut on and then blaming nissan when my wheel falls off.

Its sucks you wasted those great mounts that i only wish i had for the last few years.

[zerodameaon]

So you drive a missile car? You shouldn't be surprised when shit breaks then, kinda comes with the territory. Not even Kazama mounts would have held up for long to that kinda damage.

[Dub9.Juice]

Jesus christ and I thought my cross-member was torn to shit.

[Darren]

where did i say i was going to put one on?

Pretty sure it was in the first post, but i cannot see it now. Read through the entire thread yesterday and remember reading it, but you're right, i cannot find it now.

Carry on

[badboy6686]

This guy has got to be trolling, who in the hell would look at that crossmember and honestly think it's cosmetic. Sell your 240 and go buy a honda w/ cut springs.

[Def]

Voted the whole front frame is likely tweaked with that much deformation on the front subframe.

[di-devol]

This guy has got to be trolling, who in the hell would look at that crossmember and honestly think it's cosmetic. Sell your 240 and go buy a honda w/ cut springs.

Ahah, the Honda people don't want him there either.

Cam, if stuff isn't lining up, something is tweaked. The majority of people ehre think it's the crossmember, so find a new one lol.

[Drifting-pedobear]

Voted the whole front frame is likely tweaked with that much deformation on the front subframe.

i wouldnt be surprised, but only thoes that have seen the car might understand.

Ahah, the Honda people don't want him there either.

Cam, if stuff isn't lining up, something is tweaked. The majority of people ehre think it's the crossmember, so find a new one lol.

i thought it was as well, even before posting this. had polish come over and we did shit. just wanted to see if anyone noticed anything ELSE out of the ordinary.

i do enjoy how serious everyone is in here tho, its flattering.

[e1_griego]

Yet another forum where everyone wants to punch you in the face.

Your sterling e-personality wins again.

[Drifting-pedobear]

Yet another forum where everyone wants to punch you in the face.

Your sterling e-personality wins again.


its the tigerblood.

[jr_ss]

Yet another forum where everyone wants to punch you in the face.

Your sterling e-personality wins again.

I'd be happy to oblige the man...

But on a super serious note, I think your cross member is tweaked...

[bataangpinoy]

you wreck the car before? like kink the frame rails?

[Drifting-pedobear]

not in the front. rear has been pushed in.
but i fixed it. cant even tell. ;)

but i know its not coming from the rear, no pressure on the carrier bearing, dropped the shaft from the diff, tranny still off.

[Pinggg]

Can i have some of what your smoking?

[Drifting-pedobear]

banging 7 gram rocks and finishing them.

[sr70510]

if you ever want to let go of your camber plates hit me up!

[Drifting-pedobear]

ha, everyone likes those.

hatchi guys will pay the big bucks for them tho...

[sr70510]

i want a set for my 510

[Matej]

Your passenger side motor mount is on backwards.

[!Zar!]

I want to see pics of OP's RACE CAR

[e1_griego]

http://i.imgur.com/JOoeVl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Mjjw4l.jpg

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/335223_168514809897571_745722568_o.jpg


And what is used to be, before his driftlyf3 career:
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/64423_439988428170_3237914_n.jpg

[hockeyrules]

wow, what a way to ruin a cleanass car

[CleanAndLegit]

what a waste.

[S14DB]

That's low? Well call me a U-Boat commander...

[e1_griego]

Forgot this one --- high-centered at PGP:

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/294198_10150280270043171_7732094_n.jpg

[bunny13]

Ha. And OP said he never went off the track...

[theronin]

Forgot this one --- high-centered at PGP:

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/294198_10150280270043171_7732094_n.jpg

well this would explain the grooves in the tranny...

[KiLLeR2001]

Hey guys.

quick back story, i had the shitty yellow mounts that that dude on here makes (dont buy them, they are shit)- and i still think they are, sorry bros.

this happened at an event, no crashing, just good ol drifto:


[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/JOoeVl.jpg


hahahhahaa :rofl:

[zerodameaon]

This thread has more plot twists then a season of SOA.

[Sneaky Sims]

http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab253/SILVIA_M4STER/IMG-20110623-00069.jpg

This might make some people happy - aftermath of OP getting hit in the nuts.

[ericcastro]

.............just wanted to see if anyone noticed anything ELSE out of the ordinary.

No you didnt, you came in here to bash on Daves motor mounts and blame him for your car failing.


i do enjoy how serious everyone is in here tho, its flattering.

It has nothing to do with you. We all came here to back up a great product by one of our members.


You are garbage.





/thread

[e1_griego]

In Cameron's (very very slight) defense, I snapped one of the yellow motor mounts too -- autox car, maybe 10-15 runs after install. Dave warrantied the mount for me, then I sold them to Cameron (the OP). No drifting in my s13, no goofy crossmember, etcl. Heatwrapped mount and all that. Shit happens, I know.

So many people have had good luck with them I never bothered making a post about it on here.

The reason they failed in his car is wholly different than mine, though, as mine was probably a fluke. But even so, I now run/recommend JGS mounts almost exclusively.

OP needs a new car entirely, maybe a new hobby.

[Drifting-pedobear]

Your passenger side motor mount is on backwards.

yea i noticed that while taking the pictures, forgot to mention it. i fix it.

I want to see pics of OP's RACE CAR

its fully built too.


wow, what a way to ruin a cleanass car

oh please, car was russian rebuilt mexican titled s-chassis garbage. once i got over that was when i was able to have fun, and smash walls and shit.

what a waste.

s-chassis are only good for crashing.

That's low? Well call me a U-Boat commander...

yea, when i had 17s i was low, not anymore. most of the underside damage came from that time. which is why i said it might be cosmetic, because all that damage was there from 1 year prior.

Forgot this one --- high-centered at PGP:

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/294198_10150280270043171_7732094_n.jpg

Ha. And OP said he never went off the track...


oh yea, i forgot about that. that was awesome. ive been off track but i thought never in an area where i would bang shit up that bad, but then i remember this...

well this would explain the grooves in the tranny...

maybe, i think i was sitting on the frame tho, but it might have.

No you didnt, you came in here to bash on Daves motor mounts and blame him for your car failing.



It has nothing to do with you. We all came here to back up a great product by one of our members.


You are garbage.





/thread

i never said it was his fault, i never said it was the mounts fault, i said that they broke when other things broke. stock mounts would have held just fine (they ARE holding just fine).

you ont care what i have to say, i dont care what you have to say, thats what makes the internet so great. no matter how much you evidence i give, you wont change your mind. thats cool.

but seriously, opened up, the mounts design is poor. period.

In Cameron's (very very slight) defense, I snapped one of the yellow motor mounts too -- autox car, maybe 10-15 runs after install. Dave warrantied the mount for me, then I sold them to Cameron (the OP). No drifting in my s13, no goofy crossmember, etcl. Heatwrapped mount and all that. Shit happens, I know.

So many people have had good luck with them I never bothered making a post about it on here.

The reason they failed in his car is wholly different than mine, though, as mine was probably a fluke. But even so, I now run/recommend JGS mounts almost exclusively.

OP needs a new car entirely, maybe a new hobby.

how sweet alex.

ill get a new car eventually, but for now, you cant even tell i crashed it:

http://i.imgur.com/xSE4V.jpg

thats some comealong and hammer ART

maybe ill start auto-xing with you guys, teach you how to get sponsors.

[e1_griego]

Please don't. I don't want to get kicked out events just for knowing you.

[Drifting-pedobear]

hmmm, that would mean i would have to get some boss suspension to compete... maybe some koni yellows like you have. idk...

[Sneaky Sims]

Or you could just stick to CLEANING cars... there's always that.

[e1_griego]

Weak troll attempt is weak.

[S14DB]

ill get a new car eventually, but for now, you cant even tell i crashed it:

http://i.imgur.com/xSE4V.jpg

thats some comealong and hammer ART

maybe ill start auto-xing with you guys, teach you how to get sponsors.

Got any pictures with the trunk closed?

[Drifting-pedobear]

In Cameron's (very very slight) defense, I snapped one of the yellow motor mounts too -- autox car, maybe 10-15 runs after install. Dave warrantied the mount for me, then I sold them to Cameron (the OP). No drifting in my s13, no goofy crossmember, etcl. Heatwrapped mount and all that. Shit happens, I know.

So many people have had good luck with them I never bothered making a post about it on here.

The reason they failed in his car is wholly different than mine, though, as mine was probably a fluke. But even so, I now run/recommend JGS mounts almost exclusively.

OP needs a new car entirely, maybe a new hobby.


Auto-xing eh?

sorry bro, but see this picture? it proves that you broke the mounts.

maybe you should get some real suspension, like F500 greens, there are the best, i bet so many people here will back that up with all their vast knowledge about 240 parts.


http://i.imgur.com/rbsH5.jpg

[e1_griego]

This thread is about your stupidity, not my stupid mistakes.

Stay on task.

Also, my stupid mistakes don't make you less of a moron.

[Drifting-pedobear]

Got any pictures with the trunk closed?


oh the trunk is closed, dont you worry.

and everything is secured:

http://i.imgur.com/3tNo0.jpg

[Drifting-pedobear]

This thread is about your stupidity, not my stupid mistakes.

Stay on task.

Also, my stupid mistakes don't make you less of a moron.


lets not be quaint.
you where just trying to be like me, LIKE ALWAYS.

cant let me have one thing can you.

[zerodameaon]

s-chassis are only good for crashing.

ill get a new car eventually, but for now, you cant even tell i crashed it:


Cant even tell I crashed it.
http://swotti.starmedia.com/tmp/swotti/cacheZMVYCMFYASBJCMFZAA==T3ROZXJZLU90AGVYCW==/imgferrari%20crash1.jpg

[Drifting-pedobear]

Cant even tell I crashed it.
http://swotti.starmedia.com/tmp/swotti/cacheZMVYCMFYASBJCMFZAA==T3ROZXJZLU90AGVYCW==/imgferrari%20crash1.jpg


give me 2 hours, a tree, a come along, a hammer, and some cheap latches, and ill have it rollin' solid in no time.

[booey13]

^question is can you get that motor centered?? Lol

[Drifting-pedobear]

thats where i need your help booey13.
its a science.

[wangan_cruiser]

so oregon will be the next florida?? i hope not too close to california

[e1_griego]

He's from Washington, thank you ;)

[Drifting-pedobear]

so oregon will be the next florida?? i hope not too close to california

He's from Washington, thank you ;)

one) haha
two) no state can ever surpass florida
three) have you seen the cars at PARC? i mean, mine is beat up, but still... WA > OR

[Sneaky Sims]

Oregon can have him... if you want... or you can throw him down further South if you don't want him.

[azndan2]

This thread is about your stupidity, not my stupid mistakes.

Stay on task.

Also, my stupid mistakes don't make you less of a moron.

+1000 :duh::duh::duh::Owned:

[Chuki_KA24e]

oh the trunk is closed, dont you worry.

and everything is secured:

http://i.imgur.com/3tNo0.jpg



Pfffft!! Damn... I always wanted an s14 but if that trunk gap and defective paint is just normal wear and tear with out ever crashing than count me out. No, we can't tell you crashed at all :hahano:

You didn't by chance move to Seattle from Florida did you?..

[shaggy0778]

I love this thread. Honestly probably one of the better reads I've come across on Zilvia.

so oregon will be the next florida?? i hope not too close to california
Ahh yea... because you know how everyone from Florida are all the same, and there are no stupid people from other states. Just like how all Blacks, Asians, Whites etc. are all the same right? :jerkit: The Florida jokes are getting old...

Pfffft!! Damn... I always wanted an s14 but if that trunk gap and defective paint is just normal wear and tear with out ever crashing than count me out. No, we can't tell you crashed at all :hahano:

You didn't by chance move to Seattle from Florida did you?..

Trying to be sarcastic to ridicule op when you fail to realize that OP was probably being sarcastic in the first place.. :facepalm:

[EDacIouSX]

Got any pictures with the trunk closed?

Can you just.... ban this guy already. Please.... he's just really really dumb and is trying to troll everyone. Or pink him or something. There has to be a rule somewhere, make it happen lol.

[Drifting-pedobear]

Oregon can have him... if you want... or you can throw him down further South if you don't want him.

after all that ive done for you, this is how you treat me!
i was just about to sell you my interior too...


+1000 :duh::duh::duh::Owned:

more emoticons than a teenage girls first phone.

Pfffft!! Damn... I always wanted an s14 but if that trunk gap and defective paint is just normal wear and tear with out ever crashing than count me out. No, we can't tell you crashed at all :hahano:

You didn't by chance move to Seattle from Florida did you?..

i said i didnt crash when it happened... reading and zilvia just does not compute apparently.

ive crashed many times, but this happened when i didnt crash.

when you all look at a post, you must see word clouds of things you feel like yelling about, and ignore context and whatever else. who am i kidding, this is zilvia.



I love this thread. Honestly probably one of the better reads I've come across on Zilvia.


Ahh yea... because you know how everyone from Florida are all the same, and there are no stupid people from other states. Just like how all Blacks, Asians, Whites etc. are all the same right? :jerkit: The Florida jokes are getting old...



Trying to be sarcastic to ridicule op when you fail to realize that OP was probably being sarcastic in the first place.. :facepalm:

a man after my own heart.

Can you just.... ban this guy already. Please.... he's just really really dumb and is trying to troll everyone. Or pink him or something. There has to be a rule somewhere, make it happen lol.

http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc446/xfoolxmexoncex/Emotion%20Gifs/hangoveremotiongif.gif

[jr_ss]

Do you think that your previous crashes had no factor in your engine mounts failing? Or moving your engine off center? Or could it perhaps have been like that for some time and failed because it had been stressed to the point of failure?

The way I see it is, your cross member has been fucked for a good amount of time(based on your statement), the motor mounts saw extreme angles they weren't designed for and your continuing abuse and wrecks aided in the failure of said mounts. However, you blamed it on the mounts instead of your idiocy.

Reality has it, that your wrecks, abuse of the car and neglect to repair structural damage had the most effect on your "off center engine and failed motor mounts". So let's find a new crossmember and change it out, K pumpkin?

[Drifting-pedobear]

Do you think that your previous crashes had no factor in your engine mounts failing? Or moving your engine off center? Or could it perhaps have been like that for some time and failed because it had been stressed to the point of failure?

The way I see it is, your cross member has been fucked for a good amount of time(based on your statement), the motor mounts saw extreme angles they weren't designed for and your continuing abuse and wrecks aided in the failure of said mounts. However, you blamed it on the mounts instead of your idiocy.

Reality has it, that your wrecks, abuse of the car and neglect to repair structural damage had the most effect on your "off center engine and failed motor mounts". So let's find a new crossmember and change it out, K pumpkin?

maybe, all the damage is in the rear, and has stayed there (for the most part) which has not contributed to the front damage.

i dont care if the mounts broke from my crossmember being tweaked, they are still designed poorly, its just what it be like.

i already got a new crossmember. we will see if it fixes it.




pumpkin? you looking at me? baby....
http://i44.tinypic.com/ekiahf.gif

[di-devol]

I spit coffee out all over my computer at work. This thread is serious gold.

[Drifting-pedobear]

I spit coffee out all over my computer at work. This thread is serious gold.


nice try tim, but the company is not buying you a new computer. back to work!

[lofapoo]

You're all a bunch of fucking pussies.

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn67/lofapoo/20120923_215322_zps122fe8af.jpg
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn67/lofapoo/20120923_215330_zps6749629e.jpg
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn67/lofapoo/20120923_215337_zps9e930488.jpg
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn67/lofapoo/20120923_215351_zpse49941f2.jpg
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn67/lofapoo/20120923_215359_zps1efeacf5.jpg
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn67/lofapoo/20120923_215413_zps4e4e0486.jpg
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn67/lofapoo/20120923_215434_zps66dcb4b8.jpg
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn67/lofapoo/20120923_215503_zps491169fa.jpg
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn67/lofapoo/IMG00153.jpg
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn67/lofapoo/1107090100.jpg

Daily driver.

[OutlawLui]

Death .........................

[booey13]

Post better exterior shots lofapoo.

[Drifting-pedobear]

dont even try; this forum is for shokahs

[Drifting-pedobear]

http://i.imgur.com/Lnsgrl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MkI3Ll.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/cy2K3l.jpg

[bunny13]

In for 1/8" frame rail to ground clearance pics to back up your cool ass busted undercarriage.

Or are you just a terrible driver?

Edit: missed the pics, you must go off track a lot

[lofapoo]

Going off track is for real SNIP. I actually take this thing to the local wheeling spots and chase down Jeeps and Toyotas. See how tall my fucking car is? Bitch goes everywhere.

[bunny13]

You mean going off track a whole lot. Like all the time.

[booey13]

Lolz. Better edit your post before you get pinked

[lofapoo]

omg hella flush

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn67/lofapoo/0122002315.jpg

Nope, just hella fucked.

[lofapoo]

You mean going off track a whole lot. Like all the time.

Dude, it's a 240. Not a fucking Ferrari.

These cars are meant to get ran into walls and taken off sweet jumps. I do plenty of both.

Yes, my car was used as a skate board once, but only once.

[bunny13]

Yeah like I was saying, take it off sweet jumps all day every day.

[lofapoo]

That's what these cars piece of shit cars are for. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just kidding themselves.